I love how he shows a trashed Jeep front end when talking about the hazards of not having a good enough approach angle.. then later shows a bike shifting into higher gears when he's talking about shifting into lower gears and how low gears add more torque...
@@JacobEcret i really dont think that angle is more than 60, 70 maybe but no more But yeah ive been there im from Australia and the places ive been is like small rocks in silt up a 60 degree angle, its fucked to say the least esspecially with the trees on tracks
Poor guy just doing his job reading a script for a voice over not knowing he's going to get ripped to shreds when the video gets uploaded to youtube. Such is life.
@Tony he probably only does voiceovers and narrations as his job and doesn’t rlly care what the video looks like or how informed the script writer is. At the end of the day he probably just wants paid
@@scottmichael7178Yes, these exist. They show new 4x4 drivers what their vehicle is capable of. I drove military vehicles for years and I loved riding them hard offroad where I could, so I had to humble myself to pay for a course. It was worth it. It drives differently than a Humvee and I did not understand the features like I thought I did.
Some of the big events will have a skills course. Easter Jeep Safari in Moab has one that you can register for, and Winter 4x4 Jamboree in Hurricane also has a skills trail. I have not taken one, but had a very experienced friend take it, and he said he learned a lot. It did improve his skills.
I do 90vert climbs all the time in my Jeep! The key to it is 12 inches of lift and 44inch Boggers. Sometimes I jus climb up and park on the roof at work.
I hope no one actually believes you can climb vertical even near vertical walls. It's extremely dangerous especially in offroad environments where no one is around
12ga blanks firing anchor points, 12,000 lb winch pulling vehicle up, repeat process with 3 points of contact at all times. Drive up Everest to reach where angels reside.
@@forlornhope1116 you're talking about wincing though. Which can get you out of anything. There's no vehicle with some magical low gearing or add-ons that is gonna get you up a vertical wall
@@freeradical6390 : Just so you know this is the chute in Sand Hollow state park in southwest UT & not in Moab. It's 339 miles or so from Sand Hollow to Moab.
Got the bike gears confused there. You use the larger gear cogs not the small gear cogs going uphill. You'll pedal more but it won't feel as hard to do so. The smaller cogs are for flats and downhills.
The other animated illustration got this backwards too. It’s an easy mistake to make. Even his narration said it’s easier for the engine to turn the wheels when it’s turning slower. He knows what the concepts are but he doesn’t understand them yet. I’m not going to knock the video for him being an enthusiast because we all start out thinking some dumb or incorrect things. But I will knock it over the “close to 90 degrees” thing because that was just complete BS. It isn’t hard to look up what kind of inclines an offroad vehicle can climb unassisted, and it doesn’t get better at steeper climbs with bigger diameter wheels that raise its center of gravity either. Rubicons are pretty cool bone stock from the factory floor though.
I didn't see any vertical climbs in this video.When I was growing up,the local landfill had some vertical climbs.I remember watching some guy on a trials bike make-yes a vertical climb that actually had a "lip" at the very top.He must have ridden that up to that lip then forced down on his bars to walk it up over-I'll never forget that.
An unlimited budget and professional personal shop helps too. It can be an expensive activity when things things go wrong. And they do go wrong in a hurry. That being said, it doesn't always take a small fortune to build a modestly capable rig and go play. Just know that it can get expensive if you don't know what you are doing in the garage or on the trail.
Words of wisdom right here. People would get mad when we wouldn't let them up the red or black trails. We gave out different stickers for those that trailered in and those that drove in, if you drove in you were not going down those trails because you probably weren't getting parts for a couple of days if you broke something and breaking things was very much in the cards on these trails. A lot of us members had spare Jeeps and spare parts but we would basically give loaner parts to get people off the trails and out of the valley but some people would get real indignant real fast and act like we owed them something for them breaking their own stuff even though they signed a waiver at the gate.
Independent suspension: "This makes for a smoother ride, better handling, and *better fuel economy*" Bronco with independent front suspension and worse fuel economy than the Wrangler: "Bonjour" Seriously tho. Fuel economy is not impacted by the suspension design as much as you think. It's overall weight and aerodynamics that plays the bigger parts. I guess you can say a vehicle with an all-independent suspension *can* have a "cleaner" (and thus, more aerodynamic) underside, but when talking about vehicles that tip the scales at 3 tons and with the aerodynamics of a barn, suspension design isn't gonna change much.
@@Michael-fi6ve ah, yes, I did not think of that. Although, with serious off-roaders such as the Bronco, the independent suspension is usually beefed up to the point of having similar weight anyway, and it's not like the regular front wheel drive based CUVs were ever designed with a solid axle in mind. Perhaps a lighter weight vehicle that had both suspension types would be more comparable; only vehicle that comes to mind is the Mustang, which had at one point a solid rear axle before switching to full independent if I'm not mistaken.
@@lanceislateagain Another point as well, IFS can make a vehicle ride much lower than a live axle. The amount of travel IFS needs is minimal, whereas live axles essentially need the entire underside of the car, up to the top of the suspension travel, to move.
I'm normally really critical of videos like this but every time I started to get a little annoyed with a description or a segment of the photos not matching the narration, I found myself still kinda impressed with how accurate a lot of the mechanical physics he explains are gonna help someone who doesn't know anything about how much of a mechanical advantage a well thought out build has over an average off-road vehicle. Even though the term should be 'Closer to Vertical' instead of 'Vertical Climbs' In the picture of the 'crashed jeep' as an example of the drawbacks of not having a good approach angle was ridiculous!!!
I have a pickup truck with large tires, a light bar, a loud exhaust, and a lift kit but doesn’t have a spec of mud on it, the tires are low profile, and the lift kits is a frame lift
@@notlogical4016 yes I believe you are correct. I am constantly working on mine. I curse the engineers a lot. So many dumb things. Like heater core replacement for starters.
Now I’ve gotta say I’ve taken my Suzuki ltz 250 up a more or less vertical washout only slightly more thanAn inch of the wheel base of my quad At its peak with a sheer drop off to my left and right side I honestly don’t know how I kept it lined up after I saw what I only narrowly missed when I got to the top and on stable ground. Goes to show that looking before you leap is a lot smarter than feeling lucky you didn’t roll off a cliff or have the bike fall on top of you, if I saw what I was riding into I would never have ever even thought about doing what I did that day, but sometimes the risk you take then pays off in the future and this my friends is where my lesson learned got me: don’t take unnecessary risks without knowing the full extent of what the consequences could be. I’ve been more cautious than ever before checking every single hill or any sketchy part of a trail way before I “just send it”. Be safe and enjoy the ride no matter what you’re cruising around on and don’t go pushing your limits further than you should, and if you do just scope out the area you will be in and the place you’re gonna do something risky first before you get yourself hurt all because of an unobserved obstacle in your path. All I’m saying is ride smart get your area checked out then ride like a mad man and have all the fun you can after you know the lay of the land and you are familiar with your paths you’ll be riding on and you’ll hardly ever have a bad time
The best car science video ever! It is only 6 MINUTES long, and information is useful and VERY simple. Even a first grader can understand. You're the best!
@@strawsparky33 They aren't talking about the bike going backwards. The rider was shifting into higher gears, not lower. That's why they said the video has it backwards
1:20 I wouldn’t say the g wagon typically has independent front suspension they only switched to it in 2018 so all g wagons from 1979-2017 have a solid axle from and rear
@@tahoeben I definitely would say they are, there actually really good off road a bit heavy and expensive but still better then at least 90% of the vehicles on the road right now.
whatever this guy is saying is a lie, these guys clearly went into creative mode and made their cars fly up the wall, or turned on spider man hacks. jokes aside pretty cool vid, Idk if I'd have the guts to do this, maybe be in the passenger seat but not the driver.
After seeing a stock Toyota Hilux from the late 80s go up and down that exact slope in forward and reverse, im not sure if I'll ever be building a jeep.
If you just *listen* to the video without *watching* it as well, it becomes a pretty decent explanation of the various components that make a good offroad vehicle :)
I think I've seen a stock 1940s military Jeep navigate that slope or a similar one just fine, a bit of wheelspin but it was running on proper thin tyres not these modern thick things.
It's just insane how they can literally climb a vertical wall without even spinning the wheels like it's nothing. Amazing vehicles, I need one in my life lol, I mean....I'm never gonna get one I gotta be honest but a man can dream right?!
I like how he says most rock crawlers put bigger tires on their vehicle and a lift kit, he forgot 1 ton axles, bigger breaks, lockers, drive shafts, steering system etc…
Open differentials give the same torque to each wheel, not more torque to the spinning wheel. It just takes less torque to spin it than a wheel with traction, so the traction wheels is stationary, but it still is trying to spin. Limited/locking diffs give the same speed to each wheel, unequal power.
Open differentials only give the same amount of power to each wheel if both wheels need the same amount of power to be spun. In this example with one wheel in the air, the other wheel on the ground wouldn't move one bit, meaning that no power goes to the grounded wheel and all power goes to the airborne wheel.
As of the 2022 model defender is superior to jeep on average in different off road terrains but u got to admit that on rock clawing the jeep is the clear winner and the defender Is the clear winner for comfort and dirt trails and for also being a more comfortable family car
@@eliteffsquadron9932 pls tel me you don't think the new defender is a "proper off-roader". It is a freaking unibody with independent suspension on all four corners and most of them come with massive rims.
@@eliteffsquadron9932 the amount of work you need to do to put 35s on the new defender is silly, while the work to put 35s on a Wrangler is nothing except getting the tires and rims themselves. If you want to put 37s or larger on a Wranger you upgrade and the driveline and lift the suspension. if you want to put 37s on the new defender, well, you can't
Oh boy. You really think a Land Rover on IFS and IRS suspension can even compete with Jeep? I think a new defender is just barely more capable than a damn Ford Explorer lol
Actually, it can come down to the spotter. With a decent rig, all it takes is a good spotter and someone in the driver's seat that can follow directions. The toughest obstacles I've climbed, i had no idea where i was. I was focused on my spotters hand and only realized i was up when he dropped his hand.
I've been kinda of a Jeep freak all my life, on road, off road, plowing, towing, etc... and I've owned quite a few. Well, I just bought an FJ. The reason was that my last two Jeeps both rotted badly no matter how diligent I was to wash and treat the frame and body panels. My 1993 door hinges rotted apart, while the underneath was perfect. It was only five years old at the time. My 1997 was rotting, then I added structural steel to the frame and rear suspension members, and really tried to keep up with it every year. Two months ago it couldn't pass state inspection. So, I was checking out an FJ and made the switch. I know they rust too, but this one is solid. So, let's see what happens.
@@DurzoBlunts You can wash all you want, but around here they pre treat with liquid salt, then sand salt mix and all of this dries into a fine powder that gets into every crack and crevice of your vehicle. What's amazing in my case was the great uncarriage condition, while all the hidden seams were rotting out.
I’m not spending over $50 k to force my vehicle to climb rocks unless it was an emergency like living on a dirt road. I’m broke though so ‘four wheeling’ or ‘rock climbing’ isn’t my thing. lol
Jeep literally climbed this thing with a stock grand cherokee, wranglers do it all day long. Every jeep with a trail rated badge is capable enough to go up the Rubicon or moab in factory form
We don't have a lot of rocks to climb here in East Texas but we do have a lot of mud . I just bought a 2024 Subaru Outback it has almost 9" of ground clearance with stock tires , but it doesn't have a pumpkin hanging down in the middle to hang or hicenter and that's a big plus in mud . I also have a 1967 IH Scout that has only 60K miles and the last time it was driven on the street was 1968 . 90% of those miles was off road . The Outback can't do what the Scout can but it sure does ride better lol . Jeeps are awesome .
