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How long to make a table saw sled? 

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Attempting to time how long it takes me to build a small table saw sled. woodgears.ca/de...
The basic sled itself took about half an hour, but then I got fancy with the safety stop, varnished it and so on.

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@SpoonsJTD
@SpoonsJTD 4 года назад
I watched this when it came out, then saw it on my feed again, and thought it meant 'how long [in length or width] should the sled be'. I was hoping to see Matthias make a 6 foot sled for cutting 2x4 studs.
@wh0tube
@wh0tube 3 года назад
My thoughts exactly! I guess the aim was to prove that it could have taken longer if less was prepared earlier and it could have taken longer if more bits were done beforehand 😀
@Adnor_
@Adnor_ 6 лет назад
Hey Matthias, just wanted to say thank you. While I've never done woodwork I always watched these videos with my father, who loved them. I will continue watching them, because you make fantastic content and it makes me feel a little closer to him now that he's gone.
@workhardism
@workhardism 6 лет назад
Adnorv Wow, that was actually one of the most touching comments I've ever read. More power to you. God bless sir and I'm sorry for your loss.
@veritasestveritas8646
@veritasestveritas8646 5 лет назад
My dad was an old school maker... always tinkering. He passed when I was 14 (I'm 55 now) and I definitely feel a link to him when I'm in my shop, especially when I'm using some of his old tools. You should take up the craft, even if only on a small scale.
@sincerelyyours7538
@sincerelyyours7538 6 лет назад
So all together it took maybe an hour from start to finish. Pretty good, it takes me that long just to clean out my shed enough to uncover my table saw. Got to put it all away before dark, too, otherwise the rain will ruin everything. Been building my first sled for the past month and it's still not done. I'm not trying to break speed records, though, just make something that will not warp and be useful. No baltic birch available here, only luan plywood, but these videos help a lot so do keep them coming!
@Don.Challenger
@Don.Challenger 6 лет назад
Continuing in his long tradition of quality table saw sled delivery. From a first in 2010 to "and now this one" 2018. Very nice Matthias. You will of course surpass in 2018 best to your family.
@jeremyspecce
@jeremyspecce 6 лет назад
I'm going to make one of these. You're right about the big sled just being a little too much for a lot of stuff. Sometimes you want to take the Cadillac out for a drive, but sometimes you just need to get to work. P
@kevinquevem
@kevinquevem 6 лет назад
I think the point is that, as you always demostrate in your videos, the little thought and effort invested in being organised and prepared always pays dividends. Depending on the amount and level of the work you do its always worthwhile to make at least some simple jigs and as the need arises more can be produced. Thanks to your videos you provide a catalogue of how to's for almost all ocassions. And you do so in an interesting intelligent and entertaining manner. Many thanks to you.
@Technicallywoodworking
@Technicallywoodworking 6 лет назад
I really appreciate that you call out the speed that you use to fast-forward stuff. Its always nice to know if I want to replicate this I need to go MUCH slower and not fling stuff through my power tools... they tend to fling it back :-)
@jonanderson5137
@jonanderson5137 6 лет назад
You'd have to be sub-moronic to think anyone works that fast.
@workhardism
@workhardism 6 лет назад
Jon Anderson For crying ou loud, it was obviously joke man! Lol.
@Technicallywoodworking
@Technicallywoodworking 6 лет назад
workhardism well yes and no. This one was rather obvious but sometimes when people do 1.5x or 2x it’s hard to tell.
@jackdehaan2267
@jackdehaan2267 6 лет назад
The joy of your videos are the practicality of your projects. Thanks for these well done videos.
@jabengineer6250
@jabengineer6250 6 лет назад
You’re the man. With a cave. Always been a fan of yours and Frank H. And Jeremy S. I can’t stand round things (lathes) too. Please continue with your fantastic videos. Love the engineering you include in some of your work.Notable that you remain unsponsored. Many Many thanks. Johnathan
@UltraMonkeySapien
@UltraMonkeySapien 6 лет назад
I made one like yours a few months ago to use while cutting blade slots in knife handles. Saves me so much time!
@kkjelgaard
@kkjelgaard 3 года назад
I've watched you make so many of these that when I made my first one, it took about the same amount of time. Thanks Mattias!
@gregghernandez2714
@gregghernandez2714 4 года назад
I love your sleds, they are not overly exotic, and get the job done. I also love that you are able to find stuff that people have thrown away in the garbage. I wish I were that lucky. I remember over a decade ago seeing those NordicTrak machines going for next to nothing at Thrift stores, like 20 bucks or so. I should have picked them up, because I think they were made of some really good hardwood that would probably have worked great for making the runners for these sleds.
@LeeBreece
@LeeBreece 2 года назад
Matthias is a great woodworker and engineer but his best talent BY FAR is making any basement look exactly the same.
@vinceoleyar9411
@vinceoleyar9411 6 лет назад
I get pumped up after watching Matthias videos, then can't wait to get to the shop to try out some of his ideas.
@swms26
@swms26 6 лет назад
The end stop is a great idea. Good video. Informative and clear understanding.
@ronyerke9250
@ronyerke9250 6 лет назад
I've heard of people avoiding the swollen runners by cutting them out of old plastic cutting boards. Nice vid.
@jeffk464
@jeffk464 6 лет назад
you can buy adjustable aluminum ones.
@AlexCue
@AlexCue 6 лет назад
The only problem with those I found is that you have to be fairly particular with drilling holes for screws, as the screw can cause the plastic to bulge if the pilot hole isn't big enough. Though I suppose you could always use a little hand plane to shave the bulge back down.
@TheRPhelps24
@TheRPhelps24 6 лет назад
That has happened to me. I was also using tapered screws (the non pan head style) and tightening those through the runner into the sled caused the runner to bulge out, but when I just screwed from the sled to the runner there was no more bulging and binding in the miter slots.
@donataspimpasas
@donataspimpasas 5 лет назад
I made my runner from red oak six month ago and have no problems with any swelling
@ThaGreatestAlexander
@ThaGreatestAlexander 4 года назад
i used some left over 3/4” acrylic from a job. my advice is use what you can get free/cheap
@kwizmon
@kwizmon 5 лет назад
First of your videos I've ever seen. Instant sub! I love people like you. Humble and straight forward. Great work my friend.
@sharissejones2874
@sharissejones2874 6 лет назад
I really liked how fast and easy it was to make this sled. Thank you for the video. I like how you work.
@mrlankywelshman7296
@mrlankywelshman7296 6 лет назад
"I've never had a framing square that was out of square" i on the other hand, haven't ever had a framing square that was square! hahaha
@ecaff9515
@ecaff9515 5 лет назад
Excellent video and process. Thank you for sharing and your advice on woodworking projects.
@davemccracken6436
@davemccracken6436 6 лет назад
I love watching Matthias at work. True engineer! Everything works but for one thing.... and he makes do! 30 minutes plus "tweaks" LOL
@barflybean
@barflybean 6 лет назад
I made one to cut the ends of cedar shingles. We had to buy 8 bundles that were not finish cut at the ends like the rest of my house had, so I built a sled with melamine shelving and 2x4's. It took me about 30 mins to build it and it saved me so much time. The white melamine shelving slides nice on the table saw. The hardest part was making the small piece to go in the channel.
@carr869
@carr869 6 лет назад
Love watching you work. Your like some sorta woodworking Wizard. Thanks for sharing this with us.
@scack3658
@scack3658 6 лет назад
Does anyone else just love this guy? 😊
@spicyhot1695
@spicyhot1695 6 лет назад
Matthias Wandel you are a genius! I am learning a lot from you. Thank you!
@Torsan1977
@Torsan1977 6 лет назад
Haha! This is just what I did in the shop this week. I was inspired by how your other small sleds look.
@Stephen1455
@Stephen1455 6 лет назад
So you are counting on the counter sunk holes and screws after glueing holding everything square?????
@johncocktosensen
@johncocktosensen 6 лет назад
Matthias, I just built my first sled - but without a jointer or planer. It would be great to see you make one with limited tools. ...since you need at least one more.
@kookyflukes9749
@kookyflukes9749 6 лет назад
There's room for one more sled. A winter version.
@DKTAz00
@DKTAz00 6 лет назад
Spring's right around the corner too
@JDeWittDIY
@JDeWittDIY 6 лет назад
For sure! Harriet's going to need one sooner or later!
@mjb12141963
@mjb12141963 6 лет назад
The more the merrier.
@HacknBuild
@HacknBuild 6 лет назад
Like they say, two is one and one is none.
@AquaPeet
@AquaPeet 4 года назад
It will be the first time that I see a table saw sled through the snow.
@fedorbutochnikow5312
@fedorbutochnikow5312 4 года назад
here in argentina the framing squares are often times not square. how can i know if the square i'm about to buy is square or not? is there a neat way of figuring this out ??? thank you!
@spicyhot1695
@spicyhot1695 5 лет назад
Hi Matthias, as always I really enjoyed your video, I will be making a sled like your soon. Thanks for sharing
@BladeforgerKLX
@BladeforgerKLX 6 лет назад
Thanks, Matthias!!! I like using plywood for the runners. You come up with great ideas!!!!!!!
@XJWill1
@XJWill1 6 лет назад
How did you use the framing square to square the fence after you added the bevel? It seems like the square will go into the bevel, and that surface may not be parallel to the front of the fence.
@davebashford3753
@davebashford3753 6 лет назад
"I have great faith in framing squares. I've never had one that was out of square." I've heard you say that before. In fact, I hear you say that every time I look at both of mine that are out of square. Someday I should fix them.
@davidtraugot1405
@davidtraugot1405 6 лет назад
I actually have had framing squares that were out of square. I learned a trick to adjust them: a center punch, whacked by the inside corner will spread the legs, and by the outside corner will close the legs.
@lxoxrxexnx
@lxoxrxexnx 2 года назад
I recently found a framing square in a workshop that I was visiting. I tested it myself. I let the manager know and eventually it was discarded.
@zachgoestoeuro
@zachgoestoeuro 2 года назад
Every video on this topic by other content creators use a very convoluted five point method to determine if sled cutting area is true. You’re the first I’ve seen to use a framing square and assume it is good.
@zachgoestoeuro
@zachgoestoeuro 2 года назад
You should do a follow up where you run this cut through the five point method to see how it compares
@teeroh99
@teeroh99 5 лет назад
This boy's sled-happy. I love the videos, by the way.
@BobBlarneystone
@BobBlarneystone 6 лет назад
For the runners, I buy T-track and cut a groove to inset it a bit and leave a little room for dust in the miter slot. But for your wood runner, there was no reason that you couldn't have glued it the first time - the screws would have kept it clamped in position. A stop is a good idea - but I made a leash of sash chain that clips to an eyebolt on the front of the saw.
@Undermeman
@Undermeman 6 лет назад
All those sleds and no snow.
@SeanHodgins
@SeanHodgins 6 лет назад
You must not know Ottawa.
@jerrybatta7021
@jerrybatta7021 6 лет назад
Sam I
@davemccracken6436
@davemccracken6436 6 лет назад
snowing here in NW Indiana as I watch this.
@workhardism
@workhardism 6 лет назад
Well...a table saw wouldn't work well in the snow anyway.
@zafardurrani9544
@zafardurrani9544 3 года назад
This is a great idea and Excellent invention, I like it Although I am not a professional woodworker but I am very fond of woodworking, if you dont mind , I am 60 years old man and asked to you that normally what is the size of this kind of table, GOD BLESS YOU, ZAFAR from Quetta Pakistan
@hagergrinkenschmied8019
@hagergrinkenschmied8019 6 лет назад
Ich hab zu lange nicht in seinen channel geschaut, jetzt hat er schon wieder eine neue Werkstatt👏. Da hab ich ja noch einiges nachzuholen...😇
@PhilGroene
@PhilGroene 6 лет назад
Häger Grinkenschmied Er hat sogar 2 neue ;-) Wobei Du die eine vielleicht schon kennst, aber sie ist nun seine Hauptwerkstatt
@labrat7357
@labrat7357 6 лет назад
My stop for the sled is a 1/2" hex head bolt pushed into a round rubber door stop. It just drops into a hole in the outfield table and is attached to the outfield table with a nylon boot lace to stop it getting lost.
@Deqster
@Deqster 6 лет назад
Oh I know you could 3d print the flip down piece! Hatch box wood filled pla! (Kidding, keep up the great work sir, congratulations on the new homestead and your family!)
@scottmiller9098
@scottmiller9098 6 лет назад
And you didn't charge $147 for this weekend wood working project. Thanks Matthias for your videos!
@matthiaswandel
@matthiaswandel 6 лет назад
Yes, that seems a bit much, but much less than the wood whisperer charges for his guild.
@adamcieslinski9505
@adamcieslinski9505 5 лет назад
The "how long" in the title definitely made me think this vid would be about the proper length of a sled, now how long it takes to make a sled. Boy, was I confused when the video ended and he still hadn't addressed it... lol
@EcMcMuffin
@EcMcMuffin 6 лет назад
Don't you risk getting out of square by unscrewing the rail and the fence and screwing back together without checking?
@jeremyspecce
@jeremyspecce 6 лет назад
Heck Meck the screws are going into the same holes so it should find the same spot as before.
@ericperkins3078
@ericperkins3078 5 лет назад
Hold on. . . . you need a sled to make a sled??? I'm screwed forever.
@moechano
@moechano 6 лет назад
Love your work as always dude
@dtriniboss
@dtriniboss 6 лет назад
I saw a Japanese woodworker put an upside down U shape profile on the front fence to prevent any finger reach to the saw's blade. Essentially he raised the fence over the blade to stop wondering hands from gripping too close to the blade.
@moldprintsrl
@moldprintsrl 5 лет назад
After 10 days .. i'm still building it : ( easier said than done unless you have a jointer or 100% flat materials to start with . When I say flat I mean FLAT (and square) . I bought plywood from two different places and discovered that is just not flat . Then I was really surprised to find out that I don't actually have any flat surfaces in our home , even the marble kitchen worktop is not flat.. A jointer is on the way
@CoolBreeze640
@CoolBreeze640 3 года назад
I’m dealing with the same problem. Hope the jointer solved it for you!
@qualitydoor7620
@qualitydoor7620 6 лет назад
Great vid!! It cracks me up that you use a cordless drill to unplug a glue bottle because it's faster but then put screws in by hand! 🤔
@matthiaswandel
@matthiaswandel 6 лет назад
because twisting that drill by hand would be very difficult. And sometimes you want to be careful not to over-screw, so better by hand.
@qualitydoor7620
@qualitydoor7620 6 лет назад
ya ya, that's all cool, I just thought it looked kinda funny!! Your the Master! Great Work!!
@jamest.5001
@jamest.5001 6 лет назад
after I get moved. I would love to build saws and other tools like you have.
@HacknBuild
@HacknBuild 6 лет назад
That stop mechanism is pure genius. 🧠
@alextotheroh8071
@alextotheroh8071 3 года назад
Surprised to see only one rail for the sled... Never considered using just one rail for some reason, but makes perfect sense.
@MrWoody135
@MrWoody135 6 лет назад
Great video.....make me smile throughout.
@brumasbusiness
@brumasbusiness Год назад
Do you really need the 2nd fence? I wondering if I can skip the second fence in case I have to cut a bit bigger piece.
@oscardaza7559
@oscardaza7559 6 лет назад
Gracias, aprendo mucho de usted maestro Matias!
@beta.david_official7384
@beta.david_official7384 6 лет назад
Etza grias de Gott Mathias du bisch wia ne sieh fleißig beim Schaffa wia gots dr au z Wangen im Allgäu isch scho wieder sauwetter wia de meischd Zeit em Wendr... Gruß and Frau ond Kender bleib gsond ond mach weider so... Fiate gott
@badorastrome5418
@badorastrome5418 6 лет назад
Tablet saw Slade version 5.0 ....great work Matthias
@1musicsearcher
@1musicsearcher 6 лет назад
What’s the purpose of the front fence? If it’s to support the base that’s been cut through, couldn’t it be just 2 inches wide?
@amnesiacmyx
@amnesiacmyx 6 лет назад
I would say that if you've never had a framing square that was out of square, that isn't having 'great faith' in them at all! It's a very solid and evidence-based trust!
@davidmcgrath6507
@davidmcgrath6507 2 года назад
Faith=trust
@joeaccordion
@joeaccordion 6 лет назад
Great video. Plywood used appears somewhat thinner than what is usually used. Was that a 3/8 piece? What is the minimum recommended thickness?
@kokodin5895
@kokodin5895 6 лет назад
i have a question how big can a sled be? i mean can you make som kind of sled that would alow you to cut fiberboard or playwood 2 times as long as the table itself?. i know the fence is for that but on my saw fence can't move far enough for the thing i want to make. silly begginer mistake, and this is a big tablesaw too. i am kind of disapointed with it actually
@TheMrWoodsman
@TheMrWoodsman 6 лет назад
Great work and very well explained. Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. Regards
@chrispergola4400
@chrispergola4400 6 лет назад
Well done , This will be my first sled to build, Thank You
@mrmudstud5980
@mrmudstud5980 6 лет назад
What makes yours standout from the rest is.....it has a stop... to keep you going too far with the slide for the blade to come out on the back side. I always vision to make some kind of stop. Great Job Matthias........Your Buddy John Heist would be proud of you..LOL
@DBYNOE
@DBYNOE 6 лет назад
Thought it was longer, but have been hooked on these simple mini specs since you showed us the first one, there is no hook spot on my mini outfeed table (i.e another woodgears inspiration) so I made the blade guard block longer. By the way, not being a videographer, I have always wondered why so many of you experienced RU-vidrs have videos that seem to end prematurely from battery life issues, aren't there AC adapters to prevent this? You and Mr. Heinz are my favorites, it's great to see you'll competitive banter.
@davemortlock299
@davemortlock299 6 лет назад
Is there such a thing as a 'table saw sled fetish'????? If there wasn't........I think you have just created it. Another great video, thank you.
@wavetrader742
@wavetrader742 6 лет назад
I own two framing squares, one Stanley and the other unidentified, and they share a common problem. When I checked them with a long precision machinist's square I found that the outside 90° angles are correct but the inside angles on both are slightly less than 90°. Using either as you have, relying on both an inside and outside edge, I'm guaranteed a slightly acute angle every time. While this is not objectionable for small objects, I wouldn't use them to set the fence on a table saw sled. Maybe just pickets on a fence.
@brumasbusiness
@brumasbusiness Год назад
You have a bigger one that you used to actually cut the pieces for this one. That one just have one fence. Is it less accurate?
@ufohunter3688
@ufohunter3688 6 лет назад
Something tells me you like table saw sleds!
@roberthughes6240
@roberthughes6240 6 лет назад
I really like the drop down safety device, I haven't got the frame on the back of my saw, just the bed, I could drill a hole and have a pin drop in the hole, tapered on the rearward face so it doesn't impede the backward motion, hmmmm, I have a plan!
@freewoodencrosses
@freewoodencrosses 6 лет назад
I made this and I use it all the time. My big one hangs on pegboard mostly ignored..Thanks for this
@fossman03
@fossman03 5 лет назад
+Matthias Wandel What kind of error is acceptable?
@wobblysauce
@wobblysauce 6 лет назад
Looks like the start of an addiction.
@kenl5217
@kenl5217 6 лет назад
Just curious how you identify the wood layers (Maple) in the plywood for the runner
@Chnospi
@Chnospi 6 лет назад
Maybe by smelling whilst cutting
@1942clark
@1942clark 6 лет назад
I think Matthias has the “eye”
@ulfvonweimuller4433
@ulfvonweimuller4433 6 лет назад
he is canadian
@Dutchshedwoodshop
@Dutchshedwoodshop 6 лет назад
good afternoon, are you satisfied with your table saw? I think I saw this for sale at a reasonable price. second hand. I am thinking about buying it after viewing. Regards.
@musicbymark
@musicbymark 6 лет назад
You save brushes and time by just wiping varnish/polyurethane/shellac w/ a rag. I almost always use a rag (instead of a brush), even on finished projects like boxes, shelves, etc. I love your other (dropping dowel in a slot) safety stop (on your (DeWalt?).
@salc9593
@salc9593 6 лет назад
Thank you for posting this video. I would like to ask if have a video on building your table saw fence. Thanks
@giantpune
@giantpune 6 лет назад
How long does it take to make a sled if you don't already have one?
@startoftext
@startoftext 5 лет назад
How could you tell it was maple throughout? Split it apart?
@ike2167
@ike2167 6 лет назад
Hey Matthias congrats on 1 million
@mariuslavric9542
@mariuslavric9542 6 лет назад
you make some interesting videos. I welcome you from Romania
@graficafoto7917
@graficafoto7917 2 месяца назад
excellent man!!! do you have a video explaining the way you did your table saw infeed platform?, thanks for all these yeas of teaching and understanding, God bless you and your family
@dkbuilds
@dkbuilds 6 лет назад
Great video! How much longer does it take you to make a miter sled?
@ginagvlogs2386
@ginagvlogs2386 5 лет назад
just bought my first table saw and never used one before, so i will try to make this same jig.. thanx
@thomasharlos6872
@thomasharlos6872 4 года назад
I'm more interested in what looks like a wooden outfeed extension on the table saw that I see in the video ! Do you have a video on that?
@matthiaswandel
@matthiaswandel 4 года назад
Just an article on my website. That extension pre-dates youtube by a decade.
@thomasharlos6872
@thomasharlos6872 4 года назад
​@@matthiaswandel Thank you, and thank you for the reply. To be honest with you I really did not expect a rely.
@sromain1967
@sromain1967 6 лет назад
Mini CNC or a 3Dprinter using the arduino, using as much wood as possible pls. loving 95% of you work...mouse holes and sound frequencies are the other 5%...Good work Matthias, as ever.
@savadesoi1837
@savadesoi1837 Год назад
Bonjour Matthias, N'est-il pas possible d'envisager un tel gabarit "sans fond" (afin de ne perdre aucune hauteur de lame) ? Bonne continuation ! A+ B
@Link9
@Link9 4 года назад
Yeah cool too do something the fast as u can in woodworking.. not dangerous at all for those that are new to woodworking.. woodworking is never a competition!
@arayawoodworks
@arayawoodworks 6 лет назад
Which sizes have you found to be be the best (not to big and not too small). Like how wide and long?
@MrTonaarea
@MrTonaarea 6 лет назад
este homem é bom de trabalho. obrigado.
@Ed19601
@Ed19601 6 лет назад
"How long does it take.....?" Half an hour if Matthias does it, 3 weeks if I do it, so let's average it on a week and half
@cameronlehman1046
@cameronlehman1046 6 лет назад
Table saw sleds are my spirit animal ;)
@recipio6561
@recipio6561 6 лет назад
The crucial thing is to get a perfect right angle cut - I register mine off a crosscut fence which I know to be accurate. Not so sure about the glue - don't you need to readjust the runners some time ?
@rickymcgrath2314
@rickymcgrath2314 6 лет назад
I’m surprised you don’t do the 5 cut method to test for square.
@sonoflysystrata2
@sonoflysystrata2 6 лет назад
I have four framing squares, and one of them is wonky. I keep meaning to send it to you Matthias, since you keep mentioning the fact that you have never had one. :-)
@corcorwhite
@corcorwhite 6 лет назад
To everyone complaining that he used a sled to make this one: the cuts he made with that sled don't have to be square at all. You could make that cut with the cheap miter gauge that came with your table saw... or a chop saw.. or a skil saw.. or hell even a hand saw. So no, he didn't cheat
@williamsmith9026
@williamsmith9026 6 лет назад
I have been trying to make a working tablesaw sled off and on for 3 years. Im a newbee of about 4 years of woodworking and am doing it for jobsite saws. The rigid you see in home depot and the dewalt on the paulk total station. I forget the models. So far I have not been able to make one that works. There is always a problem in the end. Never square, wood in slot never works out and so on. I also have found that the making of the sled is more dangerous than the cuts it's supposed to protect me from. I just threw another one in the garbage. Im over sleds and wont be wasting my time and money on them again. Theyre overrated imo and im still able to get done what i want without them. Side note: Not doubting the usefulness to some and respect the skills here. Just my experience with them.
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