Welcome to America. And strangely enough, San Diego where we have the best year round weather and the least amount of valid reasons for people not to bike yet here we are.
I can't believe I'm alive in a time when the RU-vid comments on a typical lazy local news segment is filled with actual, realistic opinions. It's incredibly encouraging to see how far we've come in recognizing the immense danger and expense cars add to cities. We need cars, but we've given them 90% of our public space between buildings and they're the top killer of children on average.
Agree. You also shouldn't cut that number in half. He says that while he was there, there was 43 riders instead od 55. So if you do the math then you should decrease the number of 22 %. So instead of 96k fiders, the actual number is 75k riders (75.000). And yes, thats a lot.
Love how you ignore how many cars AND TRUCKS go by and DON'T compare! You are destroying business for your climate fetish and stupid ideas !by taking parking that is not yours, its literally the community's! And then lying about it ! " COUNT WAS PROVEN WRONG " " ON TAPE ON NEWS "Getting caught and blowing it off like your integrity didn't just get demolished! THEN YOU PUT YOUR FACE ON THIS LIE WITH A SMILE ! UNBELIEVABLE! 😂
Drivers complaining about not being able to find parking near the bike lane converted areas, yet look at the HUGE surface parking lot right next to the bike lane in Bryan White’s first shot
I see the 1:33 complain fair, tbh. So what about a line parking on the street and putting the bike lane parallel to that, but on the other side than the road? I have seen that in some places and it keeps parking spots and protects the bike lanes from traffic at the same time. Doing that wouldn't remove parking space to add bike lanes, but lanes from the road avoiding induced demand. That's a solution I can think about, but surely the ideal thing would be improving public transit so that people wouldn"t even be in the need to drive to the shop, or designing cities in a better, more convenient way.
There would be more riders if there were more bike protected lanes that connected to it. I ride from Spring Valley to Balboa park and most of the ride I am in traffic with cars. More contiguous safe lanes and you will see more riders.
The issue is that there isn't enough of these bike lanes everywhere, and they are far from infallible (for example, without say a curb, there isn't anything physical protecting cyclists from a car entering the lane, pushing people away from biking over safety concerns). Like a road for cars, a few stretches of lanes here and there won't attract that many people, a complete network on the other hand will.
@@newvilla8115 why not both better bus service and more bike lanes, as a matter of fact, they work great in conjunction with each other: busses for longer trips, and bikes for last mile journeys
@@newvilla8115 ? Rode my $100 bicycle for years in San Diego to go to college and work. Was faster than the bus. And cheaper. And healthier. And more environmentally friendly. And just sick as fuck in general. No waiting for busses, no sitting on several buses for hours. Improve bus services and bike lanes are two directions we can head at the same time. The point is that San Diego has the potential to be bike friendly and moving towards that goal is what is important. Population will increase and so will people with cars. More cars + same amount of parking/space in the city = Negative outcome. Less cars + more bikes/ bike lanes = Positive outcome (More space, healthier community, environmentally conscious, not to mention it works in other places in the world.)
If CBS 8 is working for you then they should do a better job of investigative journalism. No information about how those bike lanes are not properly protected and how that affects ridership. No information about how the businesses along that corridor have done since the bike lanes went in. Usually, businesses find increased patronage if proper and safe infrastructure is installed. Instead, just one anecdotal interview with a business owner who’s complaint was that her patrons had to find parking. Actual numbers would be journalism. And also, call out the local government on not doing it correctly and doing more. You won’t see the full benefits until there is a connected and established network that allows people to get from where they live to where they need to go. It’s called making an investment. I am disheartened that CBS decided to go use most of their time on a counter that double counts occasionally
@@neoneherefrom5836 riding a bike is a bit more effort than walking, but even that is a big problem in the US because of overweight people due to their complete car dependancy. Car dependancy which is a result of a total focus of infrastructure to motor vehicles and not even 10% on bicycle infrastructure. And now those overweight people are fighting against the one thing they would need to stop the vicious cycle, which is these bike lanes.
@@luculus88 exactly, and there’s really no logic to these people. But younger generations are seeing the benefits of e scooters and ebikes. They accept sustainable transportation as a whole and that’ll shape our future ❤ in the end it’s all gonna be ok.
@@miles5600s not really a young vs old thing. It's the car brained vs anyone that isn't enthralled with the idea of having to use a motor vehicle to travel anywhere beyond their front porch. I know plenty of older people that would love to bike as a way to save money and stay active but don't feel safe enough to do so because they can't ride as fast as younger people can, and wouldn't be able to react as fast if a driver were to swerve into the painted bike lanes where I live. Conversely, I know a lot of twenty somethings who practically worship their cars as symbols of their status and independence and would sooner die then trade them in for a bike.
A landscaper trying to run a business is not "addicted to his car." A working mother commuting from Chula Vista or Bonita is not "addicted to her car." A plumber or electrician trying to make a living is not "addicted to their car."
@@jt8251 If they refuse to think outside the box and consider how they can do that without a car, they are addicted to their cars. Even so, most of us aren't electricians, landscapers, or plumbers, and the vast majority of trips Americans take every day are single occupancy trips less than 10 miles, which is completely doable on a bike, especially since ebikes have improved. In fact, Americans could save a lot of money if they encouraged their communities to build safe bicycle infrastructure because they could ditch their cars and teach their kids to ride on their own. E-cargo bikes make hauling groceries, furniture, pets, and kids entirely possible, and you only need to get proper gear for inclement weather. Maybe once in a blue moon they'd actually need a car to transport something huge, but it would be cheaper to use a bike for all other trips and rent a car on the rare occasion you actually need a car.
@@jt8251 how’s it a fantasy world? 😂 just look at trips a hundred years ago. They were fine doing short trips since everything was close to each other. And i mean e-bikes and cargo bikes delivering stuff isn’t fantasy cause western Europe is doing it right now. Man you’ve just never seen anything else than car culture and that’s why you’re confused, it really doesn’t matter cause that revolution is also beginning in the US cause we’re humans and evolution and always will. Watch: not just bikes, on youtube if you do decide to make a little change on how you see daily trips and the world.
Bike lanes with some kind of protective curb or barrier to avoid dangers of cars would help people use it more since that'd be safer... Still seems like a lot of ppl use it though
I love to bike more than any other mode of transport, it has changed my life, I really recommend getting into it, you discover a whole world you cant get to easily by car or foot. I try to avoid unprotected lanes though, you cant expect bike riders to put their lives at risk constantly
Wow, that brings back memories. When I was a student in Groningen NL in the 1970s shopkeepers were whining just as shortsightedly. Now there are more shops and more diverse shops than ever, because their customers come by bike.
It's funny that despite all the studies and tests have shown that making streets more walkable benefits a lot businesses, and there are still business owners who think that it's bad for them!
Those business owners protesting against bike lanes don't know they are in the wrong spot to begin with. Why should there be a giant mattress shop next to a coffee shop, for instance?
Winter ridership increases when you add lighting to dedicated bike lanes. It's not just the cold that's the issue, it's because it gets darker faster after work.
YES! I just got done riding this bike lane (and Meade Ave bikeway) down to South Park. It was a very pleasant ride with the occasional muppet parking in it, but just take more parking away (or move it to the left of the bike lane) and add more bike lanes!
I don't live in San Diego. Never even been to the place. It surprised me though to learn rider numbers go down in winter. Isn't that the perfect time to ride a bike? Give me 15 over 30 any day. Regards, a Scotsman.
Love coming back here to see all the seething entitled drivers conveniently ignoring the parking garage in 30th that's always empty. And of course ridership has more than tripled since this video. Imagine that
It's an apples and oranges comparison because cyclists don't ride 100% of the time, whereas homelessness tends to be a chronic status; however, the 2022 homeless population is 8,427 as of 2/24/22 according to the San Diego Regional Task Force on Homelessness. Meanwhile, bicycle ridership in San Diego (according to the 2021 SanDag state of commute report) is about 1,002,724 trips across the 8 bike corridors with counters. Thus, the above statement "there are more homeless than cyclists" is statement is most likely false (if the cyclist population equaled the homeless population, then cyclists would have to average about 119 trips per year, which is rare for anyone except cycling enthusiasts). Furthermore, the implicit argument (that bike lane resources are better diverted to solving homelessness) suffers from the False Dichotomy Fallacy. A city can and should try to address both homelessness and transit solutions at the same time.
Completely irrelevant to this whole issue. On a separate note (also pretty irrelevant), a lot of the homeless I see camping out near the corner of Park and Upas have bikes.
The woman complaining about losing parking spaces should really talk to her landlord about providing some. That, and put in some bicycle parking in front of her store. I mean, do people really think a good business model is having a few public parking spaces on the thoroughfare in front of their establishment? On any given day, the spots she thinks are so important might be taken up by somebody who has parked their car for a multitude of reasons beside shopping.
@LiliSD Federal money likely funded a big part of this infrastructure. If so it is part of a long-term transportation plan approved & maintained by your Metropolitan Planning Organization (MPO) & your city council. These plans are published periodically & are public record. Typically they have multiple amnounced public comment & imput meetings (typ. 3) before they're approved. That's how things have worked for the past 60 years or so. That said >99% of people don't pay attention to any of this until changes start getting implemented, then they complain a whole lot.
It sounds like you need to take 25% off the counter but it doesn't matter what the counter says as much as how many customers the businesses are losing.
As much as I ride bikes and love to ride bikes, which means I have to like safety improvements with bike infrastructure, when I take a step back and look at the bigger picture which admittedly I don't always do, I have mixed feelings about it. Democrats tend to often be the most keen on cycling based changes for good or bad. They tend to be very fast and loose with other people's money, with tax money, They tend to have zero concern for the rights of others if they feel that their cause is good. End's justify the means to them always. This consequence with people driving around in circles for 15 minutes trying to find place to park really hits the nail in the head doesn't it? A few people doing that and any positive environmental impact (say pollution, or fuel bills) from cycle lanes gets reversed into a negative! Those people looking for a few customers might gain some people coming into their stores from people riding on bicycles (if the city put in bike racks there on the sidewalks or a block away somewhere), but does that equal a net positive or a net negative when people driving their cars can't bloody park? But of course liberals in government don't care about any of that, just like with China Virus lunacy and the moronic restrictions there. I think we'd all be a lot better off if more conservatives rode bicycles and had that wider perspective, then when it's time for street changes, the spending would be more reasonable and there'd be more awareness about the negative impacts from not fully baked ideas.
Hell, I have used Ohio Street for years till I get 1 block south of El Cajon Blvd. Ohio 1 block east and parallel with 30th. Taking away parking from 30th sux !
@@rudedog3529 Parking your PRIVATE car on PUBLIC land is storing your PRIVATE property on PUBLIC land. You are not entitled to that land, it is for everyone not just car owners. And before you say it, people that don't drive cars subsidize car owners. The measly gas tax you pay does not even begin to cover the costs of road maintenance.
There shouldnt be any mistakes with the counter tho, that guy just casually blew it off, bet his attitude would be different if it margin of error mistakes on his paychecks. No legit excuse,more govt manipulation is what i see, why doesnt the news even say anything about it? What a incomplete report
The UK is already doing it. And elderly people do wanna ride cause of e-bikes. The US just has such small brained people that this is really difficult when our dumb politicians come in.
Exactly! Granted, there are LESS cars going there now because there is nowhere to park! I never go to 30th Street for anything anymore because of that.
Even more ridiculous is that they now intend to do the same thing to Convoy St in Kearny Mesa. Who is going to ride a bike through such an ugly, commercial area with very little residences around it? Good luck with those potholes!
you're clearly not very educated on bike infrastructure. if the bike lane exists people will come to it and use it. potholes?... thats? why they repave the road? girl be for real right now
@@alextaylor4513 This whole 'build it and they will come' theory is such a fraud. They built a ton of new Trolley stations, yet ridership is still WAY down from 2014. Every time is see a big tandem bus or a Trolley pass by it is mostly empty.
You do know that while a few of the businesses along 30th have maybe gone under (not even necessarily because of bike lanes), plenty others are doing just fine. Lots of people simply walk to the businesses there and a few (like Fall Brewing) are very bike friendly and have actually improved business. So that's a pretty uninformed comment on your part, and I think you know that it is.
@@mariusfacktor3597 in some areas there were 2 lanes making traffic fluid, now many roads have one lane instead of 2 because of the sissy bike lanes: WHERE IS THE LOGIC?
@@newvilla8115 you mean 1 lane in each direction? There’s enough room for 1 car lane in each direction and a 2 way bike path, we’ve just gotta remove those damn on street parking spots.
expensive bikes, really? You pay (and make others pay with their health/lives) a small fortune to ride your unnecesarily large trucks and feel entitled to all the infrastructure and dont want to share even a little of it, like greedy little children, so who is actually the Karen here ? If you care so much about bus lanes then give up one of the car lanes, you have more than enough to spare.
@@luculus88 most cyclists are arrogant and egocentric, they ride to exercise not to commute, go to the freaking gym, get rid of those sissy bike lanes and put mass rider buses there.
