Why bike lanes don't make traffic worse | It's Complicated

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Cities in the UK and around the world are creating cycling networks by installing new bike lanes to help reduce emissions, but some claim they are making traffic worse.
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The argument goes that bike lanes means less space for cars and therefore more congestion. While this might sound plausible, it appears to hark back to outdated traffic management theory. Josh Toussaint-Strauss finds out how traffic really works, and the actual impact of installing new bike lanes
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@wohlhabendermanager 2 года назад

I think it's funny when car drivers, who take up most of the space on our roads, complain that cyclists or pedestrians "take up too much road space".

@Moshimulations Год назад

Thinking about getting a sweater with a Statistic on Road Fatalities and what kills the most people. Then maybe people will have a second thought lol.

@delftfietser 8 месяцев назад

Both cars and bicycles with their particular infrastructure take up space. The trick is make sure that the car and bike aren't trying to be in the same space at the same time. How to make that happen, it depends. Yield and stay out of my way for I am fragile but go the distance, says the bicycle. Yield and stay out of my way, for I am strong and move quickly, says the automobile. It isn't always that the stronger transport form must give priority to the weaker. Sometimes the weaker one needs to stay out of the way. The car and the bike are not equal forms, but their operators are certainly of equal human worth. However, no one likes being ruled over or of lesser status, and so there's conflict.

@nicokelly6453 6 месяцев назад

@@delftfietser The solution to that is protected bike lines rather than just paint. The other thing to remember is how many people can travel in that space. More people on bikes can travel in a smaller space than drivers can, because cars take up a lot of space. 50 cars carrying one person each takes up way more space than 50 bikes. So even just in terms of how to transport as many people as possible, bike lanes are a way better investment than road expansion for cars.

@user-wq6de6jb2i 6 месяцев назад

Or how drivers are always furious when they "have to pay for a new bike lane!!!1" when it's actually all the non-drivers subsidizing the highways, the public car storage, the vehicular assaults, the just-one-more-lane-bro.

@rientsdijkstra4266 3 месяца назад

@@nicokelly6453 That helps, but what helps even more is that motorists are aware of what it means to be a cyclist, and also that they are just accustomed to the fact that there will be bikes on the road. Both are effects that you will see when more and more people bike, like in the Netherlands. Because practically everybody bikes now and then, all motorists are aware of the bikes and also understand the dynamics of being a bicyclist...

@jeroenlasure8338 2 года назад

The induced demand principle also applies to cycling and walking infrastructure. The better the cycle lanes are the more people use them, and they use a lot less space on the road per person than cars do hence opening up space and easing congestion.

@flopin9528 2 года назад

It also works with railways

@JimCullen 2 года назад

Not just the better the bike lane though-it's important that the cycle _network_ as a whole be improved. Lots of high-quality but _disconnected_ bikeways are less likely to be used than a well-connected network that allows people to ride their whole journey on bikeways.

@stephenlee5929 2 года назад

@@JimCullen It also helps if the infrastructure is compatible, Using a Bike that can't be (Safely/securely) parked is a problem. Not being able to take bike on trains, is also a problem. Not being able to use much more compact E- scooter or E - board ae problems, E - bikes can also help

@ric4397 2 года назад

That hasn't seemed to be the case in Hull though

@johnny_eth 2 года назад

And separate quality bike lanes and pedestrian areas are safe for children, the disabled and the elderly to use.

@Marsk1tty 2 года назад

Bike lanes with no physical barrier from the road are useless in the winter! Separated bike lanes are amazing and make our cities better. I find that on a bike I'm much more likely to try a new small restaurant or store but in my car I'm usually traveling too fast to make a decision, plus it's way easier to turn around on my bike.

@codex4046 2 года назад

No, bike lanes that are not maintained properly are useless in the winter. If your city dumps snow on the bike lanes that's because your city is doing a bad job. The bike lanes not being seperated should make it easier for the city to maintain the cycle lanes in the winter.

@Marenqo 2 года назад

Why not bike in the winter? They do it in the Netherlands?

@MartinDeHill 2 года назад

@@Marenqo yeah, and we have a lot of separated bike lanes

@gustavsantos6225 2 года назад

in some year you might not have to worry about winter

@MartinDeHill 2 года назад

@@gustavsantos6225 we kind of already don't... We get at most a week of snow a year

@JohnDoe-tx8lq 2 года назад

"Bike lanes make traffic worse" is like saying "Building Hospitals means there's less space for building Homes!" We don't want MORE TRAFFIC, we want BETTER, SAFER ways to TRAVEL, with more realistic choices for people to get to where they need to be. Big difference! Transport, travel & access isn't just about cramming more cars & lorries into the same space.

@blitzn00dle50 2 года назад

people who say "bike lanes make traffic worse" must think that cars and bikes just spawn like minecraft mobs

@josephmarsh8235 2 года назад

Don't forget, drivers park on bike lanes! What do you do then?

@DropdudeJohn 2 года назад

If you were building the hospitals on existing houses then that comment would make sense, this isn't about new builds its about existing space already being used and cyclists are still the very small minority as for most people its not a viable option and they all disappear on rainy days

@DropdudeJohn 2 года назад

@UCS_QomCsmxf0782Olzlw59A No but you are trying to compare just that with cycle lanes being put on already existing roads, I'm sorry for you that I had to explain that

@JohnDoe-tx8lq 2 года назад

@@DropdudeJohn Like I said, new Hospitals in cities aren't often built on empty wasteland. If you believe that... erm, ok! 😆

@realityblooms 2 года назад

“ Yeah but this cyclist didn’t stop at a stop sign, so all cyclists are bad.” I wonder why the same logic is never apply to drivers. You’ll never blame a driver for the thousands and thousands of deaths every single year from cars. The man of accidents caused by bike never come anywhere near that.

@ironboy3245 Месяц назад

helps that the mass from a bike is like 2% that of a car's F=MA

@sanderdeboer6034 2 года назад

Understand that the Netherlands was left out, because it gets a bit boring to see it in almost every video like this. However the fact it is mentioned so often obviously has a reason. Waze (navigation app) has chosen the Netherlands several times as the best place for CAR drivers in the world. Which sounds a bit crazy considering that the Netherlands is famous for its cycle infrastructure. But this is the evidence that supports the title of this video. What I feel is a real difference is the fact that people in the Netherlands even if they own a car, still use bikes as an alternative. And there are experts that say that the Netherlands will be one of the first OECD countries where car ownership will largely be replaced by car sharing. This can already be seen in the bigger cities, but also in new build areas where parking is reduced to almost zero. And the neighborhood shares a car park full of different vehicles to share.

@hadorstapa 2 года назад

The Netherlands is my favourite country for driving in. The design and thinking behind the road, cycle, and public transport networks makes every one of those options better.

@acceleratedsloth 2 года назад

The Netherlands has great infrastructure for everyone including cars.

@joebloggs2473 2 года назад

I entirely agree with you. I worked 30 years helping to design Dutch infrastructure. When I see the result as in the whole family cycling safely without helmets a certain pride does rise. It is one thing we did get right thanks to those parents back in the 70's demanding safer roads. I think that few outside the country actually understand our achievement. As in so many things we did not make a mess of things. Yep these days we are often ignored I wonder why? Jealousy?

@fenderOCG 2 года назад

agreed. People massively overestimate average driving speeds in car dependent cities. I jog to work and am faster over the 4km than cars during peak hour. That's 11-12kph.

@InternetKilledTV21 2 года назад

@@joebloggs2473 Thank you for your service 🫡

@deldarel 2 года назад

An important note that was implied but is worth stating: those cyclists often used to be car users. This initiative frees up the road for car users who actually need or want to use the car, rather than feel they have to.

@enonbusiness8156 2 года назад

Indeed! I am a cyclist and was a driver. I gave up driving after being mowed by a lorry on the motorway on my way to the hospital to work. Ironically I did get to that hospital albeit in the wrong department. Now I take the train and cycle from the station.

@SomeoneBeginingWithI 2 года назад

Increasing cycle lanes makes cycling easier and safer. This isn't just about making things inconvenient for drivers. When cycling is safer, more people will choose to cycle because they actually want to cycle, but chose not to before because they didn't feel safe. Similarly for public transport, when the public transport is more frequent, reliable, and at an affordable price, more people will choose to use it. I think we should focus less on trying to discourage driving, and more on making sure people have realistic alternatives to driving.

@mjyt100 Год назад

Like improving public transport? Bus Lanes have been removed for cycle lanes. Shocking!

@SomeoneBeginingWithI Год назад

@@mjyt100 In which city? Maybe some cities are doing that, and if they are I think that is a bad decision. In my city they are adding both cycle lanes and bus lanes at the same time.

@Rikimkigsck 8 месяцев назад

My work is 10 miles from my house and I can easily use my ebike to get there, which I enjoy even more.

@scooptm Месяц назад

@@mjyt100 realistically, building tramlines that share their space with bus only lanes with protected bike lanes on the sides of the road would be ideal

@altriish6683 2 года назад

I also wish that videos like this would make the obvious point that begs addressing: roads are for transporting people, not just cars. Every city wants to find the best way to move people around, and that's going to look different in each city. But "roads are for cars" is a silly, thoughtless reaction that many people seem to have. The goal is moving people, not just cars.

@TheUltimateBlooper 2 года назад

"Roads are for cars" people have never thought more than surface-deep, nor ever thought "why do we have roads in super old cities?"...

@franzderpinand2715 2 года назад

Can we just appreciate how annoying and idiotic these 'anti cycle lane' people are.

@stephenlee5929 2 года назад

No they(we) are badly informed. Also badly designed cycling infrastructure is worse than none.

@salentino 2 года назад

@@stephenlee5929 as a cyclist I would much rather chose a bad designed but safe bike lane, instead of using the street and getting endangered by motor vehicles

@stephenlee5929 2 года назад

@@salentino Hi, My point is that badly designed cycle lanes are often not safe. Just painting the area nearest the kerb with a white line (and bike motif) and yet still having parked cars there doesn't make it safe. A cycle lane that covers 75% of your journey may not make it safe. A suggested route for cyclists, which requires you to continue on a road that has a cycle lane, but it stops 400 yards short of the junction, where you need to turn right onto narrow residential roads which double or triple the distance travelled and brings you into conflict with residential parking and traffic (see Hull) is not safe or useful.

@TheoDaJunk 2 года назад

@@salentino yeah I remember when a driver almost knocked me over...but all the other lanes were free. Better have a bad designed bike lane that better ensures car don't go on

@salentino 2 года назад

@@stephenlee5929 thank you for elaborating :)

@DarylBaines 2 года назад

The real key is well priced public transport. I moved to Sheffield in the 1980s, when South Yorkshire Transport had a heavily subsidised cheap fares policy: you could go pretty much anywhere in the country for a nominal amount of money. Consequently, everyone used the buses, the streets were empty of private vehicles any the buses moved quickly and efficiently. Come privatization in the early 90s, and the bus prices went up by more than 1000%! Bus usage fell and the roads became clogged with traffic.

@sanderdeboer6034 2 года назад

Agreed, however it should not become to cheap or even free. Because that would make people walk and cycle less.

@da14a49 2 года назад

The fall of Sheffield's buses has been too real...

@blanco7726 2 года назад

@@sanderdeboer6034 its free in Luxembourg, we still walk to our bus stops

@eetutiiro4808 2 года назад

subsidies are not to blame I love buses but drivers still should not pay for any of the bus service. As a continuation roads should not be paid by income taxes, they should be provided by tolls. imo user pays

@sanderdeboer6034 2 года назад

@@blanco7726 I know, been to Luxembourg many times. But I still feel public transport should have a fee. Otherwise many people that now walk or cycle will take the bus. Thsi is bad for health, and will cause extra strain on the public transport system that also neede to be paid. A minimum fee makes the incentive to walk/cycle greater.

@veggieboyultimate 7 месяцев назад

Those articles blaming bicycle lanes don’t know what they’re talking about.

@tyren818 2 года назад

One important point I think this video forgot to make is that, cars are incredibly inefficient when it comes to moving people. Cars are way too big, take too much, can carry 6 people but usually carry just one and that is the main reason why we should be encourgaing alternative modes of transport and discouraging car use, it's better for everyone. People that actually need to use cars will face less traffic. It's better for everyone except auto companies. Literally!

@betula2137 2 года назад

Such a win-win, so obvious too (once researched).

@tyren818 2 года назад

@@betula2137 yes there's reason netherlands the country with the most alternative mode of transport infrastructure inplace is also the consistently rated every year as the best country for drivers.

@betula2137 2 года назад

@@tyren818 100%. If only there were some way to spring action in other countries.

@tyren818 2 года назад

@@betula2137 There is, spread the word, in the past 1-2 years, urban planning channels have blown up. So I think a lot of people are learning on the subject.

@blanco7726 2 года назад

@@tyren818 youtube isnt real life

@ebbeb9827 2 года назад

bike lanes make traffic better. Most car trips in towns and cities are short ones that could otherwise easily be done by bike if infrastructure existed. By building bike lanes you're giving people that freedom and reducing traffic for those that absolutely need to drive

@Feten56709 2 года назад

Yea, makes the air quality better and encourage people to do healthy things, the problem is the lack of infrastructure available for both bikes resulting in the usage of more vehicle such as motorcycle and cars, and also laziness.

@JJONNYREPP 2 года назад

Why bike lanes don't make traffic worse | It's Complicated 0923am 19.5.22 i dont cycle anymore so it matters not.... it's a middle class concern... which is a shame. night mare on elmstreet's worth watching, though...

@JUDALATION 2 года назад

you don't need a bike lane to ride a bike... utter insanity...in NYC nobody rides bikes in winter... thats6 months...

@Feten56709 2 года назад

@@JUDALATION yes that is true, but the lack of any lanes will make biking much more difficult and will be hindering the traffict even more, also prevent death (since there's already 2 fatal incident involving bike in the last 3-4 year on the street near my house)

@Martin-on2pp 2 года назад

@@JUDALATION When is winter a problem. I keep cycling in winter. Yes, -10 celcius and snow is problem. But otherwise not.

@BlueBetaPro 2 года назад

Without even watching the video, it's not complicated, it's simple car drivers steer around a vehicle the size of two king size madresses while bikes ride a vehicle the size of a chair. Who do you think is the biggest trouble, the fact that cars are treated as something superior of resources while bikes get scraps in comparison is insane. We are simply converting a wasteful use of resources to a better one, from a greedy use of resources to one that helps everyone. It's less about removing "traffic" it's about making traffic more efficient by making it more comfortable to use the more efficient option, guiding behavior.

@michaelstratton5223 2 года назад

We have 8 lane highways in America that are like oceans of asphalt. If space reduced conjestion, those highways should never get traffic jams. But guess what, they do. All. The. Time. Meanwhile, Germany has so many alternate forms of transit available to their people, it even makes a few of their highways sparsely travelled enough to eliminate speed zones. Thanks cyclists and train passengers and bus riders, for making car traffic more practical.

@BMWS1000RRR Год назад

Bikes are better than cars. 🌱

@VirtualVisitor999 2 года назад

I moved to the UK in 1985, and started riding cycles after I moved to Wimbledon area in 1992. In 25 years of riding around Memphis, Boston and DC, I never had a scare or attack. Now in London/Morden area, I have a bad scare ONCE A WEEK. Too many London drivers are SICK. This is obscene. The whole attitude is wrong "this is my car place, fck you" by drivers far too often. The police should prosecute ALL DRIVERS who hit a bicycle. There is no excuse. I was targetted and run over on my bike August 2016, ON PURPOSE. The vandals actually slowed down to crash into me, knock me off the bike and onto the (red lane, no cars) road service, and then stopped long enough to lean out and squirted me with salad cream (!!) while I lay on the ground with broken wrist and ribs, then drove off running a red light. Eight witnesses in broad daylight.... Two days in hospital. It took the police 6 months to catch the two men in the van, and it turned out he had probably attacked 3 others in the previous year, one in hospital for 6 months. The man was NOT prosecuted! My right wrist doesn’t work right anymore, and it was hard for me to walk at all. Spine damage and torn ligaments in hip. Walking was quite painful for 4 years. Much better now, but still limited walking.

@davidty2006 2 года назад

drivers are getting worse.....

@PedroConejo1939 2 года назад

Sorry for your experience. I had a glass bottle thrown at me from a moving van. By the level of pain on impact, I thought it had broken a rib but thankfully it hadn't. If it had hit my head, I wouldn't be writing this today. Driver and passenger never caught - no-one stopped to help either. There is no doubt in my mind that the anti-cycle (ie. WAR) invective from certain media outlets, the Daily Mail being just one, contributes to actual physical injuries suffered by cyclists at the hands of a minority of deranged motorists. If the same level of language was aimed at a different group, say, older people, there would be an outcry and prosecutions galore.

@genericallynamed1 2 года назад

Out of curiosity what areas of cities like DC, Boston, and Memphis did you ride in? Even today there is very little high-quality infrastructure for cyclists, and a lot of investment in things like protected lanes and cycle tracks only came recently. Did you just feel that drivers and others were more tolerant of you in these cities, or did you find that road layouts and design made it so that you simply didn't come into conflict as much?

@sleepyrasta14820 2 года назад

That's why you should always be prepared i have a chain and padlock for locking up my bike which I have easy access to in my bag incase i need it for other purposes so i can grab it if needed. It's a dangerous place for cyclists between A hole car and van drivers, junkies after your bike and rabid dogs off the lead.

@CanItAlready 2 года назад

@@sleepyrasta14820 Doesn't sound like a chain would have been useful in the OP's situation.

@davethibault6734 2 года назад

I live in Montreal, which has the best bike lane network in North America. (Though still well below a lot of European cities) And just in the last few months, I've seen a monumental increase in the amount of people on bikes, mostly due to high fuel costs. I wouldn't be surprised if bike lanes will eventually need to be widened to account for the extra cyclists.

@kb_100 2 года назад

The amount of entitled suburbanites who complain about the cycling infrastructure is really annoying though. But thankfully Plante won the last election which shows most people support her direction The REV on St Denis is a "dream" indeed...

@AdrianColley 2 года назад

This says more about editorial standards at the Evening Standard, Daily Mail, Daily Express and the Sun; than it does about the wisdom of urban bike lanes.

@TheoDaJunk 2 года назад

Thinn we should start cancelling news channels

@GerLeahy 2 года назад

I came here for this comment

@jayamber4448 2 года назад

All true but unfortunately many people will continue to be wilfully ignorant on the subject. Local governments have to be bolder and stop allowing nimbys to derail cycling projects.

@jaridkeen123 Год назад

If you wouldn't let a 5 year old ride alone on the bike lane then its not safe and shouldn't be called a bike lane

@benobaars Год назад

Exactly, it should be called painted bicycle gutter.

@peachydais 2 года назад

moving from a small hilly town in yorkshire with terrible public transport to manchester with its ample and flat bike lanes has been incredible!! haven't been in a car all year and take the majority of my trips by bike. it's actually quicker to cycle a lot of my journeys too because of the said traffic, i find myself almost racing the cars.

@jessegee179 2 года назад

So true, it's funny how moving to a city can make life much easier 😁 without the car of course!

@kb_100 2 года назад

Also the time required to find parking is usually not factored into car trip times. But when it is factored in cycling easily becomes the fastest mode for short trips in cities

@richardstewart6900 2 года назад

True for you maybe. But how true for every driver and every journey they do? There are some (many?) for whom cycling simply isn't an option on every journey.

@TheUltimateBlooper 2 года назад

In Birmingham I didn't even need to race the cars in the morning because the traffic barely moved. What's even worse - where I live the buses get stuck in traffic, because the genius city planners couldn't dedicate a bus lane! So imagine it taking 40min to 1.5h by bus/car to get to work vs 12min on my bike. The choice was obvious and I felt more awake every morning! But I work from home now, so the commutes are gone altogether.

@peachydais 2 года назад

@@richardstewart6900 i know richard, that's why i started the sentence talking about how difficult cycling and public transport can be in certain towns

@ilichio 2 года назад

In Mexico City it took some time but the bicycle lanes use has increased a lot. The problem is that the big cities are the destiny of many commuters so in the end the use of the bicycle lanes is just for the locals and the traffic jams continue.

@wilsistermans1118 2 месяца назад

This video is very, very car centric! Cycling is a great way for transport small distances. For distances up to 5 km (7 km on an e-bike) the bicycle should be the preferred way of transport. Fit people can even do the double distance. For short rides cycling is often faster. If people stop doing these short rides by car, the congestion on the road will be a lot less, even compared to before the cycle lanes where installed. Cycle lanes and especially intersections can handle a lot more people than car-lanes and a two-way cycle path takes less space as a one-way car-lane. So it is not the bike-lanes causing more congestion, it is to few people make use of the bike-lanes. People complaining about the congestion should try those bike-lanes. Cycling is healthier, less polluting and often quicker.

@dropatrain 2 года назад

100 lane highway? Don't give Houston any ideas!

@chrisr3570 2 года назад

Sun, Daily Mail and Express misrepresenting quotes? Never!

@stephenlee5929 2 года назад

No, that could never happen 😲, but to be fair same with most media, even RU-vid and Guardian. 😩

@jimcourt9164 2 года назад

Grundian spouting bull eco theory nonsense. Never !!!

@michaelrch 2 года назад

Good analysis guys. Well done. If this stuff interests you, check out the channel Not Just Bikes. It's fascinating and very informative.

@sebastianhuvenaars6537 2 года назад

I second that, quality channel.

@Moshimulations Год назад

I third that, very detailed channel on transportation options.

@scotlandbydrone 2 года назад

great idea but when public transport is so unreliable (where I live anyway) it just makes people go other places in their car

@ivanangelov8825 2 года назад

When made in uncompetent way bike lanes it not only worsens traffic, but it makes it more dangerous for the bikers themselves and makes their ride more miserable.

@JudeFurr 2 года назад

This effects areas economically too. I live in the SF Bay Area and since San Francisco City has become less and less driveable, I now spend all of my time and money in the suburbs, almost never going to the City since my work is outside too. If there are enough people doing the same, the City will deteriorate.

@Na2gumiBlogspot 2 года назад

The future of big cities is healthy public transport, bike lanes, and pedestrian zones.

@Soprie 2 года назад

Paint is not protection. Bike lanes must be separated and protected.

@erinatornow 2 года назад

Badly separated bike lanes are highly dangerous for people on bikes. If they are to small, they hinder cyclists from left-turning (or right-turning in the british case) and from overtaking. Its just a curb more which you can hit if you have to avoid an obstacle like a pothole or stuff that is wrong placed at the bike lane. And the mixing of different modes of transportation encourages mutual understanding and normalizes the view of an cyclist to a motorist.

@AnthonyMonaghan 2 года назад

Try telling this to Auckland City council and Auckland drivers. Cycling in Auckland is dangerous, frowned upon and actively discouraged by the vast majority of the city population. As for public transport, don't even go there.

@rickb3078 2 года назад

At one point cars will become too slow for users and the infrastructure will become too expensive for the city to maintain.

@CyclingSteve 2 месяца назад

One inaccuracy, those roads are not closed to motor traffic in Hackney, they are only closed to through traffic, maintaining full access.

@Realistic_Management 2 года назад

Love to see coverage of cycling, cycleways, and theories of traffic going mainstream!

@SilverVSPlatinum 2 года назад

There is no way London is the most congested city, They just want to make it look bad by not comparing any Asian cities. I've been to many Asian cities and the congestion over there is beyond ridiculous.

@Random.ChanneI 2 года назад

In Amsterdam it's always quicker or just as fast to cycle. So people use bikes as main transportation in Amsterdam. It's that simple. And if you want to travel by car, you need to take a detour in most cases since many streets are for cyclist only, but it will get you their quicker than a direct route because there are relatively few cars.

@kuqiu5003 Год назад

We need separate bike lanes here in oxford

@altriish6683 2 года назад

Okay, that San Francisco bike lane in the 4 panel shot looked like a nightmare. Squashed between parked cars and several lanes of traffic, with only a painted bicycle gutters to protect you? Yikes.

@JohnnyGification 2 года назад

I'm not understanding. It's a bicycle lane. It isn't hard. There's nothing to protect you like most bicycle Lanes.

@scooptm Месяц назад

@@JohnnyGification look at dutch bicycle lanes, something like a divider usually seperates the lanes, it doesnt cost much extra, and keeps cars from parking on the lanes, as well as making it less likely for cars to hit bikers. on top of that, the roads seem less wide, which in term reduces car speeds making safer roads. Slower car speeds induce people to want to use alternative transport options, which then reduces traffic/congestion which then speeds up car traffic again.

@crankypipo 2 года назад

Two words: city planning

@skinnyd_tk6795 2 года назад

As a german i have to say i really love commuting on a bike in the city i used to live, even if the weather is bad. what i don't like is how dangerous it can be, basically putting bike lanes on roads, instead of sidewalks. also another factor is public transportation. in my city its pretty bad, where a bus rarely ever comes on weekends. i can't really leave without a car just to make groceries. in a car or bus that trip would be like 5 minutes, but on my bike its so much longer because its an uphill climb all the way. its also tireing. doesn't mean i never do it, but i'd appreciate a bus more often. another thing is getting to school. in the morning its fine. a very pleasant 40 minute trip. after school its a different story. i basically ride 40 minutes in the bus, and have to wait another 30-40 minutes to make a small 5 minute ride home. I could also walk home but that takes like 45-60 minutes. so i often just wait.

@jimmybaldbird3853 2 года назад

I appreciate your honest assessment. Usually euros just say how everything in europe is gold

@Moshimulations Год назад

For up-hill climbs, it may be the type of bike you are cycling on. It may be ideal to switch to an Ebike, there are ones that cost under 1000 and my ebike costs around £590 (€685.78)

@mozeskertesz6398 2 года назад

I think that as cars became more comfortable, the public transportation's comfort level has been in a fall for a lot of time. Just compare a train from the 60s-70s to a modern one, the results are damming. Same for metro trains: we used to sit on springy cushions, now we sit on plastic plates.

@Banana_Split_Cream_Buns 2 года назад

My guess is that, like with anything, it has to be designed well for it to work well. My next guess is that just retrofitting one thing on top of another, as part of a box ticking exercise, hasn't worked.

@cannygrowabeard 2 года назад

The most important thing about transport is choice.

@MinkieWinkle 2 года назад

except this solution removes one choice, or more accurate. makes one choice harder, to encourage another. the reality is, if people wanted to cycle they already would the lanes are irrelevant, as there is nothing stopping people from using the roads to cycle already, putting a dedicated lane wont change the fact that people do not want to cycle.

@Preetzole 2 года назад

@@MinkieWinkle Research and evidence would beg to differ

@Moshimulations Год назад

@@MinkieWinkle Within my commute, I basically have to cycle in highway traffic I flippin hate it. Simply put it, it is the fastest route but lane changing as a cyclist is an absolute nightmare. I wish they added proper cycle bypass that mimics that road.

@Staann 2 года назад

Hire a Dutch guy, problem solved

@TgamerBio5529 2 года назад

Even roads are closed due to only allowing bikes but no motor vehicles while my sat navigation systems keeps on trapping me in these mazes so annoying. I got to do delivery’s around London on a motorcycle with these roads closed it becoming a problem.

@Thebowber 2 года назад

Lovely, outside London and a few other cities the public transport infrastructure is non existent. Where I live there is one bus a day to the local town and most villages have zero public transport in rural areas. Then you look at getting a train to anywhere and just laugh, it's a LOT cheaper to get in our car and drive there, pay for parking and drive home again.

@HollywoodGreenFresh 2 года назад

theres only 2 reason why i use my car to go to work: -the last bus near my work passes at 15min before the end of my shift -i don't feel safe riding my bike at night

@danieldaniels7571 2 года назад

my drive to work takes 25 minutes. Taking the bus took over two hours, and also involved over a mile of walking.

@sergiobasilio8098 2 года назад

"You're not stuck in traffic, you are the traffic"

@saranbhatia8809 Год назад

Makes sense!

@bluceree7312 2 года назад

So, City AM, The Mail online, The Telegraph, The Express, the Sun, and the Evening Standard. The top 6 publications that ever adorned our media outlets. SMH.

@bluceree7312 2 года назад

Sorry did I say publications? I meant tabloids.

@cecilecorpuz5735 2 года назад

Bike lanes or no bike lanes I just rode my bike, many will say it's scary to ride a bicycle in the States but not me! I've been riding a bike in now called SILICON valley since 1973/74 when there was no bike lanes! Now it has changed there a lot In San Jose 10th street and 11th street the main corridors for South bound and North bound traffic there used to be 3 lanes for cars heading each way, just recently the city of San Jose has reduced this to 2 car lanes with now one lane for bicycle traffic with low cement barriers separating the car lane from the bicycle lane and I think every other block will have loner / rental bicycles as well. The one place that I had to pay attention the most too was riding over, over passes! So I took on that animal and worked out a method of getting up and over, once I got this down I would never have to stop for cars ever again.

@Simon-tc1mc 2 года назад

I'm a passionate urbanist, yet I'm still unsure of I believe in induced demand. A city has a set population, and a large chunk of that population will travel by car no matter what. Increasing bike lanes will cause some to switch to biking, but I can't see it being a significant chunk. And of course increasing lanes somewhere like LA will make no difference, but if you're living in a mid sized city with little tourism, it seems there would be a set number of car commuters. Increasing lanes shouldn't increase congestion if there is a set number of car commuters. Maybe I just don't grasp the full picture though. Please prove me wrong

@grambo4436 2 года назад

Which is why I think the population should not be lowered but should but more spread out.

@imperialspy3457 2 года назад

@@grambo4436 suburbs and urban sprawl encourage car use due to longer travel distances, mostly public transport are often limited in suburbs (an issue with the service).

@paulcook7426 2 года назад

I'm not exactly convinced that headlines from known anti-cycling newspapers is conducive to the facts anyway.

@darcymr353 2 года назад

But the video is pro cycling...

@CTIGX 2 года назад

@@darcymr353 he is criticizing the other newspapers that made the anti cycling headlines at 0:14

@TheCristallo83 2 года назад

When I first visited London all I used was the Underground or Santander bikes. I actually enjoyed it a lot. Where I live in the US, we have no public transportation and since we are spread out, biking isn't an option in 100°F (37.78° C) so my only option is to drive.

@legitdoctor8293 2 года назад

USA needs to take some of the funding that goes into the military, copy what Japan does and make rural/suburban america more accessible by public transport

@jimmybaldbird3853 2 года назад

@@legitdoctor8293 no thanks, we like cars. Theyre generally more convenient

@legitdoctor8293 2 года назад

@@jimmybaldbird3853 well have fun with those rising gas prices lol

@jimmybaldbird3853 2 года назад

@@legitdoctor8293 you mean the ones you have too, but double?

@winstonsolipsist1741 2 года назад

@@legitdoctor8293 If the USA decreases military spending, who will protect the rest of us from Xi and Putin? Who will guarantee international trade routes? Though recently, Putin has shown he isn't as much of a threat as we thought and Biden has shown he isn't as coherent as we all thought.

@ch0wned 2 года назад

That which is suggested without evidence is rejected without evidence.

@mikewade777 2 года назад

Amsterdam and other places like are a goal many cities want to achieve. The evidence is in what the dutch achieved.

@paxundpeace9970 2 года назад

A negative effect on traffic congestion = less traffic congestion

@sablatnic8030 2 года назад

Makes sense - I haven't visited Copenhagen since they removed a lot of parking space about 20 years ago. Just not going there!

@zivkovicable 2 года назад

Not missed. You are more trouble than you are worth if you drive in. A drain on resources, & bad for the enviroment.

@sablatnic8030 2 года назад

@@zivkovicable I could take the bus - go to Copenhagen in the afternoon, sleep in a cheap hotel, and go home next morning! Never!!

@gollumtheartisticnewt1028 2 года назад

Anyone who thinks that London is the most congested has never been to India or China.

@matthewcornfield2150 2 года назад

This video was absolutely spot on. If you want to run down this rabbit hole of RU-vid, I recommend City Beautiful, NotJustBikes, Citynerd, amond many many others. It's addictive!

@ianhomerpura8937 2 года назад

The Tim Traveller and Jay Foreman's RU-vid channels, as well.

@792bnz 3 месяца назад

traffic is 100% worse now with bike lanes and parking has taken the biggest hit. local residents come home and have to battle or drive several block where they risk getting a ticket. bike lanes could've easily been put on the sidewalk. i always say, is it worse for a pedestrian to be hit by a bike or a bike to be hit by a car?

@Altis_play 2 года назад

to create demand there must be a supply.

@guidoalfonso 2 года назад

love this idea, I hope it will work and prosper

@scottmcshannon6821 2 года назад

so the theory, taken to the extreme, is that if you eliminate all roads, no one will need or want to go anywhere.? the only thruth to tht statemen is that if you have 2 roads next to each other, one with 2 lanes and one with 4 lanes; the one with 4 lanes will attrack more drivers. DUH.

@jukio02 2 года назад

I only bike for recreational purposes. I don't wan to get all tired and sweaty getting to my destination.

@mikewade777 2 года назад

then don't race, cruise instead

@Skyfoogle 2 года назад

its the 21st century, we have electronic bikes

@dalveerbansal1324 2 года назад

Need to point out the obvious tho.... how many people who drive cars actually switch to cycling? ... its more like people who use buses will switch to cycling instead. Therefore the net number of cars on the road does not actually fall, you just get more empty buses

@afgor1088 2 года назад

Objectively untrue

@dalveerbansal1324 2 года назад

@@afgor1088 I think so, I know a few bus people who have started cycling and lots of car people who refuse to start cycling

@afgor1088 2 года назад

@@dalveerbansal1324 don't care what you think, you're incorrect Even if it were true they should be forced

@dalveerbansal1324 2 года назад

Bit rude? If you don't care what I think then Why you reading and replying to comments?... It's just harder for car people to leave from there comfort of there own vehicles

@Alto53 2 года назад

@@afgor1088 hello authoritarian.

@betula2137 2 года назад

I feel like they could have mentioned quite a lot more benefits to adding infrastructure which isn't car-centric. Indeed, cycling infrastructure is subject to criticism by sensationalist papers across the world, but this phenomenon is known as "bikelash", and is a paradox, including in Melbourne, where the short term criticism masks the broader public appeal, and obviously urban designers who have been saying this for decades. Channels Not Just Bikes, Oh the Urbanity, and Alan Fisher are useful for further exploration.

@coopaloopmex 2 месяца назад

Excellent Reporting!

@a.b2966 6 месяцев назад

How does increasing the movement of people increase congestion 😂 ? carbrains be like: bike = less space for my SUV.

@PersonaN007Grata 2 года назад

Cycling and pedestrian infrastructure is similar to vertical high rise apartments and office buildings. It can cram more people into the same amount of ground. When I’m in LA, commuting in traffic is bad enough but trying to find parking is ridiculous. Cars take up so much space in our cities.

@wiegraf9009 2 года назад

People say bike lanes are part of a "war on the car" blah blah blah. If you head out to the suburbs in the Netherlands you'll see plenty of houses with two or more cars in the driveway, just like in America. They still buy and use cars to go out to rural areas or do intercity travel, just not your everyday commute!

@NicolasProix 8 месяцев назад

The video is absolutely right : due to Jevons paradox, decreasing space allowed to cars reduces traffic. But you forgot something very important : security. Road fatalities are mainly due to cars (and trucks). Reducing their place will mean saving lifes immediately, in addition of all the others advantages.

@adam1885282 2 года назад

Carbrains making disingenuous arguments? No way

@killagearz 6 месяцев назад

I just wish the public transport infrastructure was better in places outside London. About time all these ULEZ projects went into investing in the public transport.

@Northwest360 2 года назад

Thank you for making this video! Bike lanes are a great help in working towards a healthier planet and populace. It also makes city life much more fun and engaging!

@whollymary7406 Год назад

They should have more trains

@AvgJane19 2 года назад

Does anyone know the song playing at the beginning?

@Aaron-cc7yq 2 года назад

This breakdown may be applicable to the UK, but I don't believe his theory would hold up in places like the US or actually any place outside of major cities

@afgor1088 2 года назад

Yes it would, there are cities in the US which prove that

@whollymary7406 Год назад

I’d rather ride I love my bicycle

@bluettr250 2 года назад

Here is the deal. Car heads can’t stand if every piece of tarmac that isn’t theirs

@bluettr250 2 года назад

@@moa-wg3bo we tried playing nice. No more. The pavement belongs first to walking and rolling and second to everything else

@DeputyChiefWhip 18 дней назад

One place the world needs to follow.... Netherlands!!!

@whollymary7406 Год назад

They might worry about the pollution in the tame

@vintageradio3404 2 года назад

In cities like Sydney where colonial-era streets were never widened before building work began nearby, bike lanes are a real problem and they are being forced on tax-paying motorists who are finding it more difficult to navigate vehicles which are ultimately getting bigger by the year. I don't object to bike lanes but they should be on their own reservations and where they are installed, it should not be legal for riders to use the adjacent streets, which does still happen a lot. Don't forget, it's not just cars, but trucks and buses also use these streets. They cannot be replaced with bikes for obvious reasons.

@stewartellinson8846 2 года назад

you'll find that those cyclists pay tax too. If you get rid of the cars and put the occupants into buses or onto bikes then the cities suddenly have more than enough space for buses, lorries and vans plus less pollution and a healthier population.

@danieldaniels7571 2 года назад

vehicles were getting smaller and more fuel efficient by the year. Somewhere around the turn of the century automakers lost the plot.

@alcidesforever 7 месяцев назад

Lovely voice over in the video

@Erinba 2 года назад

The newspapers that printed those articles were daily mail, the telegraph and evening standard… not worth paying attention to them anyway

@2DaysAgoISawAVehicle 2 года назад

It’s cheaper..healthier..and more fun...

@gentlebabarian 2 года назад

Its not complicated, people are!

@nathanjohansen7169 2 года назад

If adding lanes reduces traffic, then traffic increases to fill those lanes, wouldn't the same effect take place when adding bike lanes? Some people may ride because it was quicker, but once the traffic reduces to a point that it no longer is quicker they would go back to driving? I feel like both scenarios would reach an equilibrium at some point.

@kanucks9 2 года назад

Bike lanes can accommodate more people, so when it does reach a new equilibrium, there is less traffic for the same trips

@fraghetti 2 года назад

there will never be too little space on cycle lanes because they have 7x more efficiency (throughput) than car lanes. cars are literally waste of (what could be) shared space.

@o.a.j.8168 2 года назад

It is weird seeing this as a Dutch person. I use my bike almost every day and it is super convenient. I sometimes still have to realise how lucky I am because this isn't normal in most country's.

@starbase218 2 года назад

I’m from The Netherlands too. And I’m now pretty much convinced that what we do best isn’t football or even speed skating. It’s infrastructure. It’s not just “bike lanes” either. It’s also creating cycling infrastructure on its own, that can often be more direct than roads can be. And it frees up those roads for cars as well. This is what I’m missing in this video. But then the video wasn’t made by a Dutch person.

@rieksstevens 2 года назад

fact if you totally ban cars from streets with lots of shops the amount of shoppers will increase .

@Raz22HD 2 года назад

Please can we get some proper bike lanes (separated from traffic) and public transport for cities… outside of London! Bring back trams with 5 + lines that connect to everywhere

@miniveloman3642 2 года назад

Information worth sharing with all the drivers.

@bmo3778 2 года назад

i haven't even heard the induced demand theory, but i can already calculate the space for bikes should effectively be less than cars

@TimothyWhiteheadzm 2 года назад

Great video, but you didn't really address the main false claim which is that congestion is what matters. What matters is whether or not people can travel where they want when they want and how easy and comfortable that is. Congestion only really measures the impact on people who choose to travel by car. It doesn't measure people who choose not to travel or people who travel by other methods. Congestion is seen as the key problem only by people who have to travel by car in that congestion. The problem is they tend to be the decision makers.

@clarkie5 2 года назад

They had protected bike lanes in San Juan Puerto Rico, It was really convenient to get around.

@retroonhisbikes 2 года назад

Motorways are congested all the time, and ive never seen one cycle lane

@goldentabbers8799 2 года назад

The comment at the start has been readjusted: Peter Lees of Inrix says his claim that cycle lanes increase congestion was reported inaccurately. One journalist said "cycle lane comment would get more readers."

@public.public Год назад

here's an idea... STOP BORROWING FROM BILLIONAIRES TAX BILLIONAIRES and make all public transport free.

@danieldaniels7571 2 года назад

2:35: so the bike lanes are indeed making traffic worse. By design. Figures.

@winstonsolipsist1741 2 года назад

Instead of "Induced Demand" they are creating "Subjugation via Induced Congestion". What you want is not as important as what they want. They do not ban cars entirely because they do want you to keep paying taxes for the privilege of having your travel delayed so that they themselves do not have to pay taxes to have cycling lanes built.

@danieldaniels7571 2 года назад

@@winstonsolipsist1741 sounds about right.

@imperialspy3457 2 года назад

@@winstonsolipsist1741 except that cycle lanes and the like are waaaay cheaper than most road projects...

@Humulator 2 года назад

@@winstonsolipsist1741 cycle and bus infracture is only like 1% of the budget. 99% goes to cars because the 90% use for the asvalt costs alot of money to maintain