me too. Stopprd by Sportsman's Warehouse yesterday (7-2-20), they were out of: Ammo Magazines Handguns (except a few Walthers) These ate "interesting" times for sure.
How about a machine shop and chemistry equipment, maybe some hydroponics greenhouses, some basic ore refining equipment. Basically what I'd need to make my own guns and ammo. I'll be spending most of my money on that, and I'd probably work a lot for nothing. Be nice to have something to do though.
MichalSoukup1995 people shouldn’t know how much ammo you have. If you flaunt it so everyone and their mama can see the beautiful amounts of ammo you got that opens yourself up to things you probably don’t want. No one but my wife knows how much ammo I got. As for guns my friends know some of them. It’s better to be secretive about these things. But you should have a good guard dog if you live alone and you are paranoid of that. Good companion and great protector.
Good exposition... As a Combat Engineer in the US Army, standard ammunition loadout for the M4/M16 was 7 thirty round magazines - of course, when you take into consideration that doctrine hammers into us that we fight in fireteams, 7 thirty round magazines should be sufficient. If you're in civil unrest with just yourself, the question becomes: How many can you practically carry before your ability to move is hampered. I would suggest that no one should be trying to fight alone. Yes, acquire as many magazines as you can - but build your fireteam. I cannot stress the importance of training a fireteam and working as a fireteam more.
We should always seek peace above all else. I suggest avoiding a potential fight at all costs but when someone brings it, give it to them like they've never seen before.
I live in Connecricut too. We can't even use the BX 25's for 22 LR, which is stupid. They should have exckuded the 22LR from the high capacity magazine law.
@@davidstepeck2644 The whole AW/HCMB laws are wrong, arbitrary and capricious, Unconstitutional. This arbitary situation must be mittagated, needs to go to the SCOTUS to be properly disposed of to the ash heap of history.
1) there is NO such thing as too much ammo or too many magazines 2) I was once accused (by CPS) of possessing and "Ungodly" amount of firearms and ammunition.....I asked the caseworker how much was "Godly"
I knew I had a problem when I watched this video and said....that's not that many magazines?!?! With that said, if having too many magazines is wrong, then I don't want to be right.
A similar thing happened to me involving a local law enforcement officer. I carried two extra mags for my Glock 19 in addition to the one in the gun and he was like "that's pretty concerning, that you carry that much ammo", and "even I don't carry that much when I'm off duty". I said to him "if I was in your shoes I'd be carrying as many mags as I physically could, with the way you guys are being treated around the country right now." No such thing as too much!
Chris Lucas at least. sell your car. buy mags. have more mags than bullets! when you run out of bullets, throw your mags at the bad guys!! duct tape them to your body for use as body armor!! magazeeenz!!!
we had 5 days of Freedom in California. Although I had a stack of Grandfathered mags they were trying to renig & outlaw 17 years later. We stocked up on a lifetime supply for the whole family. price was not relevant when you only have 5 days to buy.
E. Ozzy Thanks. I love the preppers but, jmo, I think over thinking violent scenarios will eventually subconsciously create a incident. Too much power. I love the ability to protect myself and family but I'm not into hostile takeover.
An combat load is 210 rounds for the m4 which you'll blow threw quickly in the mad minute. So i would personally say you should have twice that amount. You should also stock up on extra springs for your magizines.
As a second thought, "way back there" in the early 1990's I bought a Winchester M1 carbine (then only $200) and was in the market for extra magazines. At that time, dealers were trying their best to unload commonplace 15 round mags for $1.00 each and I bought 40 of them covered with cosmoline and securely wrapped in heavy wax paper. Shortly thereafter came one of the well-known magazine bans and I noticed that the price of these jumped up to $10.00 apiece since these were suddenly classified as "high capacity." As we are often told, "Strike while the iron is hot" when it comes to stocking up on extra mags while they are available at a reasonable price. .
It is now Feb 2024. Look at the prices of 30 carbine magazines now. And in my area of Indiana 30 carbine ammo is around $1 per round. I bought an Iver Johnson 30 carbine, 30 carbine "Enforcer" pistol and a Ruger Blackhawk 30 carbine in 1980. I think each one was near $200. The prices for them now is ridiculous.
actuality we are allowed almost everything, the only thing is that the rifles must be semi-automatic and you must have a section 5 firearms licence, only most firearms shop owners have this licence. Or you can get a section 1 licence and get single shot rifles :P or a section 2 and get shotgun...... THE UK IS NOT GUN FREE !! :P
@PointyCheese: Same basic problem in Australia. Our firearms are heavily restricted (and that's fine; nobody here cares that we can't legally posses and operate an AR-15 except some avid gun-nuts who are out on the range most days of the week anyway). Acquiring a Cat.A or Cat.B isn't too difficult, provided you can prove you have the necessary safe storage and your magazines are limited to no more than five shots, or ten shots at maximum. Here, firearms have always been handled as tools rather than as weapons. That's just part of Australian gun culture. Hell, many of us would take a bow over a firearm any day, myself included. What the USA generally considers to be weapons of self-defence, we consider to be tools in everyday work. If you don't need a firearm for your work, you don';t need a firearm.
"This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration. Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future! - Adolph Hitler, 1935
Dude, just go digital. If you take the time to look for quality, you can find it. And keep it. All of it. Forever. Probably want one of those solar panel charging bank deals.
That's a good point, but being lead-acid batteries, you should be able to recover them with no power, just give it more acid, if I remember correctly. I should look this stuff up actually, it's yet another important thing they don't teach you in school. We pay taxes for them to not teach our kids how to save their porn through an emp.
I love this guy. Seriously. Of all the prepper's on RU-vid this guy is my favorite. Down to earth, great advice, high quality videos and obviously a great American. I agree with him 100 percent. It may seem like a lot but if they are banned people will get hard up. The Clinton ban wiped out the pre-ban available mags and after a few years people were wanting them bad and paying a lot. I love the tip about the cheap Berretta mags. Has me thinking about getting a B-92. Sensible Prepper is the man. His Get Home Bag video motivated me to put one together as well.
I would never argue with having lots of mags -- I have at least the minimums you recommend...and I have a lot of rifles and pistols (LOL). But I think it's really important for people to think about the fact that there's NO WAY anybody can get into "lots" of gunfights and come out alive. I think it's really important for people to think HARD about ways to avoid firing a SINGLE SHOT in a "grid down" situation -- not counting game, of course. Those who survive those times will be the people who are good at avoiding confrontations. Preppers need to think that issue over thoroughly.
l believe in 'sets'. To me, 7 rifle (1 in the weapon and 6 on the vest is a set). 4 pistol (1 in the weapon and 3 on the vest). Then taking this numbers, I have 3 'sets' for every weapon. One set remains unopened in their packages as 'backup'. If I break or damage one, it gets replaced with one from the back up, and then I order a replacement for the back up set. My $0.02. YMMV.
+Bruce “Corelogik” Jenner I agree... 7 to 10 for main rifle, 4 to 6 for main pistol are more than enough (per shooter). For easier management, I generally try to always have 10 working mags. Ideally, I don't need more than 2 or 3 spare ones for backups since we can order a replacement as soon as one breaks.
Mathaius833 value of gun's and parts are worth more then money. a gun i bought for 300$ 2 years ago is worth 900$ to 1100$ now. what do you think is worth buying that increases that much in value?
A guy down the street from me buys out storage lockers. I buy every magazine I can find from him. I usually pay about 50 cents. Have gotten lots of 5.56 from him.
Wow, its incredible listening to you back in 2011. Spot on information. I wish I would have found this earlier. Here in Colorado they changed all the magazine laws July 1st, 2013 but we will not abide by any unconstitutional 'laws', MOLAN LABE
Before I even I watch this video I'm going to answer your question. "How many magazines do you need?" -- All of them. I recently broke down all my ammo into ammo cans and laughed when I realized exactly how much I have, thinking I've obviously gone overboard and how much money is tied up in it. But I still I have cans that are empty and I feel bad for them. Looks like I've still more ammo to buy.
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When I realized how much ammo I had accumulated and how many different calibers I had to stock, I got rid of anything that doesn’t chamber 9mm, 5.56mm or .22LR .... the most common and available ammo in the US. Then I started a worksheet to keep track of my ammo inventory by caliber and age so I could use ammo on FIFO basis when I go to the range, always buying new ammo to replace the ammo Im going to use BEFORE I go to the range. After the Obama era ammo shortage and price hikes, never again will I be caught in short supply of ammo.
@ that's what i store, 9mm, .223/5.56, .22LR. that's the only firearms I own, keep it simple and uncomplicated. I do have one exception, .357magnum/.38special revolver that i just absolutely love. I do like your idea of tracking your ammo though. Wish i did, most of mines been broke down into bulk, similar grains/powder stored with similar.
I like to go with the "video game standard" - 10 mags; 300 rounds for primary , 150, for secondary. For TOTAL rounds, 2k for each cal, but no more than the 10 mags while in the field
Originally yeah. When New York first introduced the NY unsafe act a few years back. There was a time where all law enforcement (police, state troopers, sheriffs, and local federal government agents were only allowed to carry 7 and then 10 rounds. Then they went and changed it because over 100 thousand police officers became felons over night. And I mean literally over night...a Friday night. They pass unconstitutional laws at night when people are out partying, sleeping, or doing whatever and not paying attention. They specifically wrote the laws uncomprehentionable so that they could charge people for what ever and whenever they feel like it if they don’t like whatever was done.
buy a lever action .44 or .45 then go out and shoot it, but practice loading as you shoot without breaking contact between the stock and your shoulder. practice this while moving from cover to cover or just standing. you may never want an ar-15 again.
Washington State chiming in, our standard cap mag ban goes into effect in two weeks. Purchased a hundred or more various brands and calibers in the past couple months. Rather have too many than not enough.
There are only 2 situations you can have too much ammunition on you. When you are either drowning or on fire. If I knew who I stole that from I would quote them...
Said by a person who has never been under fire and learned the value of the ability to move. Somebody weighed down by too much ammo makes a pretty easy target to hit.
Oregon militia Bravo Company... Platoons usually are required to keep 8 rifle magazines and 4 handgun magazines every platoon has a supplier and a medic if you need more magazines the supplier will supply you
DOCSAFETUBE Smokey mt militia Alpha company pred 1-1 here we keep about the same but our squads usually we have 2 ammo bearers 2 medics and at least one long range weapons specialist as well as people from the military that are good at multiple other weapons platforms.
An old video however, many points you have are still very valid. Some things I'd add to the overall question is how many mags do you need? For your long rifle.. basic load for a Soldier is 210 rounds.. as many can tell ya in a situation where, God forbid we ever need to use them as the founders warned us about, in practical experience you need at least double that capacity. In otherwords, min 420 rounds on your person, 20x30 round mags and 5 for your sidearm. Dont waste money with some crazy drum thing.. it will throw off the balance and add weight to the long gun.. proper practice and ability to change mags efficiently and quickly will vastly outweigh any benefit you theoretically get from a drum setup. God Bless to yall and keep your powder dry.
@@thestudenttechnician2826 Tovarisch, if you can throw my 11-something lb. Mosin like a spear, than the gulag has already strengthened you to levels far beyond the most of men and I salute you!
When the SHTF if you don't have a 1,000 rounds in mags you're not ready, my grandfather use to tell me stories as a young lad of his time during WWII in North Africa with the British Army, he would head out of camp in the mornings with his Tommy Gun with over 1,000 rounds and always run out, and have to scavenge off of his dead buddies bodies to make it back to camp alive.
I’m guessing that was in a vehicle......cause Thats at least 40 pounds just in ammo! Now add in weight of magazines or even drums, plus all his other gear? Also fully loaded into mags would equal 50mags or 20 drums
That seems rather a lot of ammo. At 1 3/4 pound per loaded 30 round magazine that going to be 60 lb just in the ammo for the Thompson, plus an extra 10 lb of weapon, not counting what they be expected to carry to support the Bren at 3lb a piece. The most I heard off before was 5 or 6 extra magazines worth and that was considered very heavy to lug around with all your extra kit. I am sure it is possible, but god bless the guy who decided to carry 60-70lbs of ammo around with him, since he going to need it. Especially when compared to most rifle men who be lucky to have a 100 rounds on them.
1st rule - never tell anyone every thing you have or where it is. 2nd - never keep every thing in the same place. 3rd - when trading in shtf (or any time)always keep somebody for yourself.also refer to rule 1. 4th - always to buy food and ammo in bulk.5th - remember op sec !
I like the AK 73 to 75 round drum magazines, affordable and store forever. The 30 rounders for the AR and the AK can be had for between $6 and $8 per mag on sale so there is no reason not to have a bunch stocked up! I was buying my magazines as I purchased my ammo, but am rethinking to stock up on the magazines first now that I have a bunch Ready To Go just in case. But at a minimum, I feel you should have every round you intend to carry with you in a magazine RTG.
During one of the rushes, I bought 500 PMAGs from one of the distributors for $20 each. I know I could have waited it out and MAYBE gotten them for half that price, but the piece of mind is incredible since I don't have to worry about my AR mags anymore. Hindsight is 20/20, but I'm still glad I did it...
NJ went from 15-round max to 10 and residents were expected to either turn them in to law enforcement, destroy or "transfer" them to someone who can legally own them. I believe at last count ZERO mags had been turned in.
here is my setup for magazines for my SIG pistol: I have one fully loaded mag in my gun with +1 in the chamber, 2 mags in a double pistol mag pouch on my belt, 3 mags in my car for anything i may do on the go, and 3 mags in my house in my room in my desk for home defense or target practice. mags anywhere anytime any reason. always be prepared.
During WROL/SHTF your magazines will likely wear out, get lost, broken, loaned out or stolen. It makes sense to have more magazines than what you will carry on your rig. Many, many more! Maybe it makes people feel good but a arbitrary number is just that. Whatever you can afford would be the goal(s). When you buy your rifle plan on buying: a simple 2 point sling, 6 quality magazines, a way to carry them(i.e. chest rig) and as much ammo as possible. Now you have a decent loadout and will be better off than 99% of the population. After that buy mags and ammo as you can afford them and be on the constant look out for good deals.
I went into my stack today to add a couple mags to my range bag. I stocked up 6-7 years ago and hadn't really looked since then. HOLY CRAP! I found 27 BX-25 10/22 mags, 40 PMAGS, 13 40 rd AK mags, and a bunch of other misc magazines. All new in the plastic. And a bucket with 1,240 rd of 5.56 on strippers I didn't know I had. I honestly forgot how deep I stacked.
in a "grid down" situation, once lifeless bodies outline the perimeter of your property, intruders will go else where, so warn your neighbors, LOL. I agree with your 10/6 magazine rule.
Thats why I escaped California and moved into a red state. No high cap bans. No 10 day wait. No stupid approved list. No 1 gun a month. No background checks for ammo. Wow. What a change. Now get tbis. Constutional carry! No permit to ocaknooen orn concealed. I did get a CCW to cover me in 37 other states.
These unconstitutional high capacity magazine bans make no sense. NY,NJ,CT,California to name a few are violating our rights. Common use magazines are 15 rounds for most semi auto hand guns and semi auto rifles are 30 round magazines. Yet we are only allowed 10 round magazines.
Ok gun guys, why don't you try to save money and stick with only 3-4 different caliber guns? I'm Canadian (I know I'll get flack for that), but it makes more sense to have a SKS 7.62x39, AR .223 , 9mm pistol, and .22 LR. Part of prepping isn't having to take up a lot of space carrying a bunch of un-necessary weapons. Keep it simple no? (awaiting butt hurt from gun nuts)
it is a good sound idea,,, but some feel the need to over prep.... but that is alot of money that could be spent on the 3-4 basic weapons, and alot of other survival food and water.
TOTALLY agree! I'll even shorten your list a bit... Get your AR-15, and the .22LR bolt conversion (two guns down), pistol of choice (I prefer the 1911 frame .45, but I also have the conversion to fire .22LR), and a shotgun (hopefully some food will fly over). There you go 3 - 4 guns. Now take them apart, put 'em back together and get good at shooting and fixing them. More importantly though, think of where you're going to get food, water, and fuel to cook, then think long and hard about if you're going to be able to "defend" your resources when unarmed starving people come to take "your" resources.
Fuel is not a problem. I work in the oil and gas industry and know where every wellhead in Canada is located, as well as pipelines and such. Fuel sources and types will never be a problem. Knowledge is power.
7:29 - This right here is the reason to prepare ahead of time. The "I may never have a chance to buy it again" rationale is what drives all of the hoarding and panic buying. It is a pretty understandable mindset when thinking of things that are precious to you, so no judgment here. But this is the mindset that almost everyone has when things look a bit dicey. Prepare when times are good. Don't wait for times to get bad before buying things that could save your life.
When the Colorado magazine ban was about to take place in July, I prepared myself by purchasing magazines for all of my current and future rifles. Come to find out after the ban, the gun shops here in Colorado just gave the politicians the finger and were selling them anyways. I just bought 2 Glock .40 22 round mags from my local gun shop and they were selling the 9mm 30 rounders for 44 bucks.
1) Enough for your immediate EDC needs; 2) Enough for your bug-out needs; 3) Enough for your long-term storage needs; 4) Enough for any alleged hidden cache needs; 5) At least 2 for every room in the house; 6) Enough to have 2 each inside zip-locs while hiding in your toilet tanks; 7) Enough for at least 1 in each drawer of your tool box; 8) some zip-locked in the fridge; 9) some zip-locked in the freezer; 10) at least 1 by each door to the outside of your domicile..... What'd I fergit?
For "fighting/shtf" weapons My personal opinion is 10 per rifle, 5 per pistol with an extra 10 and 5 respectively for range/practice use. Reality is that its around 4 per pistol and 5 per rifle. I made it a point to get a decent chest rig for every rifle I own since all of that gets expensive after outfitting the rifles with lights/optics. A decent carrier with surplus plates will still run $350-400 (sorry, steel plates are way too heavy) so I opt for a chest rig, decent holster, and some belt pouches.
During the last gulf war they found a fighting position with dead Marines in it, they figured out that they had been over run because they were trained to retain their mags rather then dump them and not worry about them until the heat was off. So there is a time and place for the two ways of doing things.
Once, when asked how many spare mags soldiers should carry, our sergeant replied, "If you get into a firefight, there ain't no such thing as a spare magazine." Having said this, if you're in a static position that comes under attack, having a hundred, loaded mags at your elbow might be comforting. If you're on the move, packing around a hundred, loaded mags could be somewhat problematic. So I guess the correct answer would be, "You need as many as your situation would dictate." As for PMags compared to the metal, surplus mags, go metal if given the choice. When I first joined the Canadian Army, in the '90's, we were issued plastic mags for our rifles. At certain times of the year, it can get a little chilly up here. During cold weather, it was quite common for the magazine lips to snap off when the mag was inserted. Never had that problem with metal mags.
I don't buy magazines based on any potential physical threat, I buy them based of Constitutional infringements placed on me by a tyranical government that may prevent me from replacing any worn out mags
I got 18 of them AK steel military surplus 30rd magazibe, and 2 of the bakelite 30rd mag and i got two Korean made 75rd drum mag too and i got 1 hungarian tanker 20rd too. That all i got for my AK47
Vincent Hollaway yeah, but govt would, so would those neigbours who doesnt like guns or hate when you shoot your "assult rifles" in the sunday morning :P.
+Vincent Hollaway Damn, you know i dont now shit abut this stuff, bust for what do you need so many rounds for? I mean shit thats one shitload of mags dude. And being prepeared for WHAT? Zombies? Please tell me in my country we "prepare" by having a knife with us in bad areas at night :D
When I was a teenager I only needed a few penthouse magazines to get me through nights where I hadn't unloaded my sewage in a few days or longer. These days I need about 2 mags to get me gaining the confidence at the gun range I need to hit my targets in real life...
