He is fifty and his body are destroyed... inside especially... liver, kidnies, endocrine system... it's not only muscles that grow, but organs and brain as well... dangerous, and no Holy Spirit by Jesus Christ, as this guy is condemned to Hell without faith in Jesus....
I really enjoy him ,he puts alot of basic simple knowledge out there,but coming from him it's very impacting cause he made this system work on a pro platform.just à remarkable athlete.
20 sets on a bro split, brah! Come on. I myself train 16 sets per body part. For instance on a back day 4 sets of pull ups, 4 sets of rows, 4 sets of lat pulldowns, 4 sets of bent over rows. Total 16 sets per body part in a bro split... Also, Ronnie Coleman, Jay Cutler, and generally most IFBB pros do bro split. Haven't you been following CBUM's prep series leading up to Olympia each year?
I do 3 full body workouts per week, typically 8 sets on legs per workout (compound movements only) so 24 sets per week on legs, 5 sets of upper body per workout, so 15 sets per week for upper body muscle groups. I do like 50 sets of lateral raises per week though.
3 sets of 10 reps on 3 exercises so 90 reps on big muscles. Smaller ones get 3 sets 10 reps 2 exercises. Complete natural not even supplements. 3/4 days week.
@tikemyson5627 Yes I have nothing against whey powders. Just meant like raw natural as in just food and water. Nothing wrong with taking supplements, in fact they are easier lol.
I guess I need to add another movement to each exercise. I average 16. I use a 4x4 method so I will try out a 5x4 method and see how I feel afterwards.
@@davidrockefeller2007 To be perfectly honest with you, it’s some of both. I am naturally gifted but I have used gear to give me an edge. I do not compete on stage or anything. I just compete with myself.
@@Momoa786 that seems like a reasonable routine. You have to find what works for “You” as an individual. What works for others isn’t going to work for everyone. I think a lot of people have a hard time understanding that.
@@Momoa786 I am 35 about to be 36 in July. I like to train 2 days on then 1 rest day. But the way I train, I need that rest on day 3 because my muscles are just exhausted by then and I don’t feel any benefit when I workout 3 days straight.
i do 4 workouts per split: ie. shoulders/back day: 1. seated lateral raises 4x12 2. smith press 4x8 3. shrugs or upright rows 4x10 4. frontal raises or cable pulls 4x12 1. lateral pulldowns. 2. some form of seated row 3. pull-ups 4. bent row/variant of bent row ive been wanting my shoulders to grow recently so sometimes i’ll do a 5th movement.
I’m 54. I go 5-6 exercises 4 sets. On back I go 7-8 exercises. No supplements let alone no gear EVER! Former D1 two sport (Track and Football) athlete.
Yeah that's getting into junk volume for a natty 10 to 12 sets absolute max imo there was an interesting video that shows the muscle growth decline after 10 sets was an eye opener. I've just done 6 sets today heavy and intense I'm done today.
I do a HIT burn out set with between 30-35 reps and I keep upping the weight every 6 days when I next work out that body part. After the first burn out set I’m barely able to lift light weight and if I had the time I could see myself doing 20 sets but I try to keep it under 35 mins bc of my schedule before work. I can get 5 exercises in during this time. I do like one good set to failure or almost failure and then the next 3-5 are really rather pathetic where it can hurt to do the bar on the last set. I’ve gone up 16 lbs on my estimated squat max in 30 days or 6 workouts. I try to get my whole body every 6 days and do the bro split. But yeah in this video I can’t imagine doing 20+ sets that’s like either there’s a lot of rest in between or just the bar is gonna be heavy at the end
I must say I love Jay his legit and super humble Ronnie a little more funny and just as humble but I've been inspired at the age of 38 to prep myself for the next 10 years and been fortunate to put on 6 kgs in 6 weeks of gym trained last 14 years back befor my son was born but rolling back the clock
Legend for sure but there’s more science now days that can save you the trouble of doing 20. Start low, 10sets, if you’re body responds well, do that till you peak, then up the volume to 12, and so on. If you start high, you are desensitizing your muscles to only respond to 20sets early on. And some people won’t even respond well to 20 sets. Basically you wanna start low, and based how your body responds, raise your volume bit by bit till you hit that sweet spot of gains, stay there till you stagnate, then up the volume to get a response again.
Jay is one of the goats but people have to take in account that he is on gear. This allows him to recover quicker which means he can do more volume than the normal person. No hate, just saying this so people don’t end up hurting themselves.
His ability to perform valum is not indicative of dear. Even though he was on it, that's not necessarily the case. Anyone who is in shape and conditioned can perform repetition & large volume without tiring
20 sets per body Part. Rest each muscle for 72 hour or until fully healed. That’s how your able to get bigger because you isolate each muscle part to it maximum; the resting is the most important part of the sport because that’s where you eat your proteins,Vitamins, minerals etc. when you come back to the Gym fully Healed ; you can lift heavier then before 😉 Rinse & Repeat. Also don’t forget Cardio!
Actually it’s great advice- consider the difference in poundage’s - arm size comes from chest and back lifted heavy Actual weights for arms are very light by comparison which is the mistake 99% of people make When you are rowing 500 pounds your arm curls are with the 30’s strictly for shaping When you are in between doing rows with 250 then your dumbbell curls should be around 55
I've trained like this for 8 mouths and my shoulders and chest are the first telling me to stop. I think doing to many sets is just gonna damage too much and your body won't heals completely, I mean, mine can't, maybe some of u could but watch out
I do average of 40 sets per week per body part. Worked wonders in the beginning now I’m lifting a lot heavier I toned it down so I can recover. Bigger you get the more rest you need if you are using high intensity
For a natural non athlete who wants to get strong and look decent then 10 sets per week should be fine Split that in to either 2 / 3 full Body workouts or a 4 days upper lower / push pull type routine
the veins in my neck are bulging out and im jerking and convulsing my appendage until it can only move a few centimeters. 20 sets is a load of balogna 8-11 with mental intensity. been saving me time , I hit 3 PRs just this week.
Does your chest or biceps really need as many sets as your legs or back? I mean with legs for example you have the adductors, Hams, Quads, Glutes, Calves and even the Tibialis while with the Chest you only have pectoralis Major and Minor that you can train.
To the teenage kids watching this you have to keep in mind that before Jay ever even touched the weight he was incredibly muscular. He was blessed genetically with an incredible recuperative ability. His tolerance for work is off the charts. Not only do most of us not need 20 sets per body part it would be counterproductive. Start with two exercises and once you get a good degree of results you can start adding on.
I do 20 sets a body part but I go to failure each one and then for my rest I do about 5 to 10 deep breaths and then right into the next set and ik a lot of people say not to but for me it’s been working like a beauty I think personally
I see a lot of comments about Mike Mentzer’s HIT here, I will just paste this from Wikipedia: “In 1971, Mike suffered a severe shoulder injury that put a long-term pause on his training.” Listen to the wisdom of Jay Cutler if you want to look as healthy and good as him in your 50s, don’t lift heavy, focus on volume and the pump! 💪
He was 21 at that time ad training with volume like Arnold and everyone thinking that’s how you had to train. It was after he came back from that injury he focused on high intensity training and had great success and arguably should of won the 1979 and 1980 mr Olympia.. plus he was the first bodybuilder to get a perfect score of 300 at the 1978 mr universe.
@Bill Oklahoma I think il listen to Jay who was way bigger and a way better bodybuilder than Mike Mentzer. And much more accomplished in the sport. And Jay didn't smoke meth before his workouts lol
@@lancemill5683 I tried the high volume many set workouts for years and all it did was make me tired for the rest of day.Low volume with good mind muscle connection with slow reps is better for me personally. Also i'm not injection a gallon of gear a week. 100%Natural Also bigger is not better, i rather be well proportioned than a oversized ninja turtle with no mobility lol
the mentzer way is infinitely smarter than what Jay is doing. Every rep he does, momentum is doing like 80% of the work, no wonder he has to do so many sets.
@@sbFreakinxRican high intensity and low volume basically. He didn’t see the point in spending 3 hours a day in the gym doing 30 sets. There’s only so much growth you can stimulate at a given time. If you Train extreamly hard with 100 percent effort and intensity then it should be brief and infrequent was his philosophy.
'FEEL'!! 'Warm UP' sets, Jay???!!❤ I'd LIKE 2 get in2 THAT (uh, I meant spend some ALONE time) w/ U, yeah know, 'DEEP diving' in2 ur UNIQUE techniques, BABE!! 🥰👍🤪🔥👍👍!!!
He forgot to mention that the 20 sets is per week… so if you workout bicep twice a week, you will do 10 sets one day and 10 sets on uour second bicep day. Im currently doing 24 sets total. Over 24 sets it will be Overkill.
20 sets not counting warm up sets…Mike Mentzer said one hard set is all you need but he doesn’t count all the other sets. How many total sets can a body handle including warm up etc when Natty and how many on gear?
People just don't get it that you have to be the true fan of what you are doing. You just must love, adore weightlifting. It is never about the results, it is only about process.
GTF outta here. Of course it’s also about the results. If you don’t have some sort of goal, whether it’s to get stronger and bigger or look better aesthetically, the. What are ya even doing.
It's ridiculous how some other Jo blow could say the same thing and they'd get slagged on. Just because Mr o did doesn't make it right or the best way. When you pinning 10iu grows with 10iu insulin plus base test with anabolic you can train twice a day either way huge volume. Understand when enhanced at the abusive end you hit 50 odd sets per muscle per week.
@@MuppetsSh0w the back isn’t a single muscle, you can’t just say X sets for back… you need to do that X sets (6 in my case) per muscle group, which means 6 pull up/down, 6 row variations.
Look at his reps, he needs 20 sets plus warm-ups to tax the muscle that way, shit if you can recover from that go for it LIGHT WEIGHT BABY! 😅 love Jay but I can't recover from higher volumes like that anymore, not even on TRT , well I CAN technically, but im not getting as much growth as I could because of the kind of reps I do. Much slower and controlled, much more mind muscle and failure. But that's the thing he probably almost never goes to failure increasing recoverablitlty.
