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After 15 years of marriage..I worked, and my ex-wife did not, I put her through nursing school and .. no surprise.. she left me for a doctor and put me through the divorce meat grinder. I will never never never get married again.
That’s your fault! You allowed your woman to work, you failed to chase excellence. Even if she went to learn a career she got ahead of you. You should always be 5 steps ahead of your wife because woman want a supervisor not a beta pussy.
I married a traditional girl who was Christian, a virgin on our honeymoon, was family oriented, never smoked, drank or partied. We had three kids. I make 6 figures, am good looking and in great health. She still wanted more and wanted a divorce. Women are too unstable and unpredictable nowadays for any man to take the risk of being married. Don't do it. Even if you find the "right" girl.
Then don’t do that. Dare I say, being a man is about leading your family, not doing every little thing to make them happy. Of course you love your wife and kids (well you should, you chose them) so you want to make them happy. But that’s not the number one goal, leading the way to a good future is.
I 100% agree with what Jeremy stated and how important marriage is. The problem is that he is pointing out what marriage should be and how it should look. Well, that's not how it is in real life. I'm a bible believing Christian but also pay attention to how many couples at church have divorced (and yes, all filed by women) and then Pastors/brethren tell the divorcee that it's part of the fallen nature and such. Ok, sure. Why make it a legal document though? I vote for marriages to be a symbolic/religious ceremony but not a legal one!
After going through my own divorce in the church and having the pastors/brethren all focused on what I did I totally agree with you. No accountability for the woman even though the same thing happened with another couple just months before! I was just like the guys they talked about and believed divorce was not an option and marriage was for life. Why involve the state? Only for tax benefits. They always talk about separation of church and state but the state controls the laws and a legal marriage is only risk and loss for a man in the USA. So yes get married in the eyes of God but don't give power and money to the state. In fact, in our marriage vows the usual thing the pastor doing the ceremony would say at the end is...."By the power invested in me by God and the state of....(fill in the blank)" Are you kidding me? I have to ask the state to get married? I would like to get married again but it won't have the government involved.
Agreed . The biblical marriage and how it was supposed to be had nothing to do with legality of today. As soon as the government made it a federal issue is when it fell down hill . People had to apply for a marriage license, this started because of interracial marriages. At one point it was illegal to marry a person of color. You had to go to the courts and get permission to be able to do so this is where the legality of marriage came into play especially here in the United States. You then had to file for a marriage license. You had to have a blood test to prove you weren’t related, all these things ran through the federal government and became taxable. Once something becomes taxable to the federal government, it then becomes institutionalized. They then used applying for a marriage license and filing to be legally married by the state not just through your faith in your church to every marriage from there on out, this also allowed the courts to decide if you could get divorced, placing a monetary value on the marriage. So you’re both right. There is a faith based marriage ceremony and then there is the legal state marriage. That’s the one that is failing the people over and over and over again.
Okay dude, but the problem with your plan is that even if you don't get a marriage license, your marriage could be considered a commonlaw marriage. Many states consider romantically-involved adults that are living together to be a commonlaw marriage after some period of time. Some states would even consider your "regligious marriage" a civil marriage even if you don't have a marriage license if you get married by a minister that's ordained to perform marriages. So, foregoing the piece of paper isn't likely to solve you much heartache.... Then of course, you have to consider that if you have children together, no matter what there is going to be heartache (child custody battles and child support payments), plus the damage that's done to the children during and after. The problem isn't MARRIAGE, the problem is peoples; unwillingness to commit to each other and uphold their respective parts of the deal.
@@sebiasdfghjkl I interpret that simply as: always remain attractive as possible. Just because you're "off the market" in a marriage, doesn't mean you can let your personal value plummet without consequences.
@@bb.buchanan Keep your hobbies, stay in shape, keep your money up, maintain your social circle, maximize your looks and skills. LTR’s and marriage are difficult to maintain masculine frame without some compromise but if you give up too much of yourself then you become unattractive to her. Most women, because of female nature, are petty and won’t leave you if they believe you’ll be a great catch for another woman (Tom and Gisselle come to mind). They’d prefer you be miserable in a relationship with them rather than happier without them. They want you broken and absolutely devastated or at least in an elevated position over you when they leave. It’s always about having the upper hand. Our job is not to sabotage ourselves and create the environment for our own demise. If she leaves then she leaves because you know and she knows that you know you’re the prize and one thing women hate is when you’re indifferent to their “feelings and emotions”.
Hearing : "I don't feel the connection anymore..." its all it takes to lose years and years of hard sacrifices, late nights of study and work. Your entire net worth lost over a single sentence.
That why it’s important to establish a friendship with an individual rather than rushing into a person arms but yeah as a woman am learning each individual psalms 83:18
@@mrs.camillewarrenempress3115 Yeah, but me as a man knowing that the family law court system isn't fair. It doesn't matter how much you know someone. Its not worth the risk. Its like a contract which only one side will benefit if broken. But I agree, love is blind and sadly it doesn't make you think clear when taking such a important decision.
@@net2dev as a woman perspective that what people have to understand without anything it won’t not work !!! Thank for the clarifications back sir you have a nice god bless journey as well love and light
I am 57 and divorced after 13 yrs of marriage. Was brought up in a Christian home, and was taught to go to church.. Man, I realised a few years ago after starting to educate myself on the RPC that my dad did me no favours, he basically brought me up as a major SIMP to women. I will not pursue marriage again, and I am educating my teenage son to NOT involve the state into his personal business. Thanks for the content, I am so appreciative of the learning. All men need to educate other and especially younger men.
The concept of "love" is largely a fantasy. It does not exist between two genetically-unrelated persons. Parent-child love can exist, but not much beyond that.
The most important thing you have to do in marriage among many is to avoid self pussification. The problem is that is so subtle that many men don't realize it's happening. It takes a few years and voila, you're a p*ssy that literally does everything your wife wants. You have to resist. Remember, she didn't marry a p*ssy. If you become one, believe me, she will leave you. I mean, sometimes I hold my ground on irrelevant things just for this reason... Rich Cooper in his book wrote the beautiful line: "Betatization by 1000 concessions."
yea thats the key, Rich calls it death by a thousand concessions. as men if something is small we usually let it go or get over it or its no big deal. Letting her win even once can boost her ego and reinforces the notion that she can just bully u into submission.
I totally agree. Even Jordan Peterson talks about this concerning women's fantasies. The most common are Vampire, Werewolf, Pirate, and Surgeon. All dangerous men who have power. What was the female fantasy about those type of men? That they would be the one to eventually tame them! Women always want to challenge authority with their men. The sh*t test it's called. If you let them do it and mold you into what they think they want, when they get it they are disgusted because she switched roles and turned her man into a woman and loses all respect. That is when she makes plans and goes after another alpha male that you used to be and we as men are always surprised by this. By the time she asks for a divorce it's something she has been planning for a long time and the decision is already made. Hold your ground and frame and don't be that guy.
An LTR is the best thing for raising children. Men wouldn't have a problem with marriage if the state stayed out of it. Its good to be monogamous if you're raising children. It is hard on kids when parents get divorced or they are bouncing around their separate houses. I get where Jeremy is coming from with that perspective in mind, but he dismisses the high failure rates and risks to men because he has no knowledge/experience on it. That's really the only issue men have with it.
Right on! I was a "Christian" married church, etc. with 3 kids, killing myself on 100% commission in So Cal with a stay at home wife. She planned the exit for 5 years, got a nursing degree, and left. Was devastated, but it turned out I made myself better and was the best thing that ever happened. My girl adores me and is 18 years younger and way hotter, more respectful the my X will ever be.
By the way all this “statistics” is pure nonsense pulled out of someone’s ass. You really think you can “measure” happiness? Can you even define happiness
From my research, 35% of US marriages end up in divorce and the 50% stat is a debunked myth. 13% are still in love after 8 years? According to what, a gallup email poll in San Francisco? Not stating any opinion, but be careful with these "statistics" people like to throw around. How would you know that 3% are in a state of bliss after that amount of time? How large was the sample? Who did the surveyors ask? Who responded? How was the question structured? How does the person answering the question define bliss? I would say I've never been in a "state of bliss," whatever that means. Those are the same statistics they like to tout on tv saying that "meat gives you a 30% higher likelihood of developing cancer" based on terrible, short-term epidiomiological outlooks, while serious systematic reviews show otherwise. Not saying anything pro or against marriage here, I'm happy and single, just be careful with these sensational statistics that go around. Use solid, non-arbitrary data and logic, especially when making such a significant decision as whether to get married or not. Yes, I am aware Rich cites these "statistics" in the video.
The following is the summary of a real thing I heard a man say regarding marriage: "I had lots of hot co-workers at my job, but I never flirted with any of them. My wife was well aware she wasn't the prettiest but she KNEW she was the only one I wanted to hold at night. That's why there was never any tension between us, *EVEN AFTER THE DIVORCE* " (He didn't use allcaps, but still. I don't think I've laughed harder in my adult life than when I heard that. Like my abs hurt from the 45 minutes I spent guffawing.)
Catholic. 26 years married. 2 kids. I hunt and fish. I work out and stay fit. I eat healthy. I have a great woman to come home to every night. I have a great woman in my bed with me. We can't pass each other without touching each other. Am I the exception? Perhaps. I am highly educated as is my wife. We have saved together and invested together. We are stronger together. I choose to stay. She chooses to stay. God first.
This is a great example of a virtuous man and virtuous woman contributing to what marriage should be. This is a far better relationship than Rich has ever had or any beta men.
Marriage was always a covenant before God. Is it a wonder why so many couples get divorced if you remove the most important part from the equation (God)?
When my ex filed for divorce I found a lawyer whose focus was creating what was best for our kids. That changed the dynamics of the divorce. It saddens me that we men have not moved on from talking about how bad marriage is to exploring how we create what will best support our children growing into aware adults.
Enjoyed seeing you a little spiced up.. Emotion is sometimes very well deserved. It's not the ending of the relationship, it's the betrayal that gets you..
The dailywire should stick to politics because their dating and marriage views/advice does a great disservice for men. Either they're ignorant or they just choose to completely ignore the divorce and family court laws. No man that's intentional with every decision in his life would get married.
Had a friend that was Head of the ER & also was an Expert Witness in civil malpractice cases. Lived 3 blocks from Pacific Ocean in Sunny SanDiego. Played golf, guitar and had an extensive social network. He met a woman that he let move in with him, took her on multiple lavish vacations annually, home hosted parties at his and included her with all his events. Not to mention buy her jewelry & dresses. One weekend when he was visiting his son in SF she packed her stuff and moved out bc she was unhappy. What makes a woman happy?
Coming from a married 39 year old man that has slept with well over 100 women. I agree with Rich 100%. If it was my way I wouldn’t live with my wife and would just see my kids occasionally. I seen the video in which you said husband and wives should live apart and I agree. I would rather have a rotation of women, live alone and focus on my purpose
Im married for 16 years and am objectively one of the luckier ones. With that said, i cant recommend men get married. Even with a woman who stays home, stays in shape, homeschools kids, cooks, cleans, is humble and submissive. Its still an all encompassing self-sacrifice of your time and resources and you will have to be willing to accept a life of self sacrifice in that regard. And all of that while understanding a womans nature and she could change her mind at any time. IF you must insist on getting married, you MUST find a younger girl with mega-nuclear levels of humility. Always agreeing, always willing to please, always keeping quiet and socially aware of when to do so. Then you need to lead and keep her grounded. Its not worth the longshot odds. Tread very lightly.
Everything you just said is because she is married to a man. Everything you just said is because someone has to be the adult. Men speak and do not hear theirself. Men put women thru hell because in the end the things asked of a woman a man usually will not reciprocate. It is one sided and women are furious. Men are not leading they are using.
You don´t need game to see debauchery, go to any party hostel on the planet, if you´re ugly you might not get lucky but at least then you´ve seen the bad side of it. And succes matters not one bit in those places. EDIT : What Moff said in the end was dead on, it completely changed my view of women and not for the better. Those times were the first time I actually opened my eyes.
As an ugly guy who always struggled getting female attention, I used to be depressed how my life was. But knowing the fuckery women have become these days, now I’m glad I always got rejected saved myself from a bunch of bullshit
Bro I tell every guy I can to go visit South America. Way better women in all ways from beauty to feminine and friendly and as a gringo you are automatically interesting to them and can add a few points to your score. You have to experience it to believe it. I dated girls half my age who I thought were way out of my league and it ruined me for American women. Won't ever go back and will move there permanently next year. Get your passport.
@@josephsullivan6986 Everywhere, you pick a big city worth visiting in a Western country and add party hostel to your search. Budapest is awesome for example. I guess Western doesn´t apply to Budapest, it´s in Eastern Europe, those were my best experiences, safer and cheaper than the West.
😂 that last point is so true as I dated more women I wanted less to do with women. Meanwhile one of my friends that was a girl was all I don't understand why you don't like girls you've dated so many of them😂
The problem with the Con Inc line on marriage is the extreme costs with no discernable benefit. It's not even a hard sell. There's no real pitch beyond insulting the prospective buyer. Maybe Jordan Peterson should consider how well it would work for a salesman to tell a car buyer, "If you don't buy this 20 year old, 10-owner Ford LTD, then you're a psychopathic, narcissistic man-child who'll live in mom's basement until you die."
A virgin will eventually feel she missed out on her younger years and have an affair or affairs to get a comparison. Men, you cannot win this relationship game unless you stay single and provide the fun the women are seeking. "Girls just want to have fun" and they will!!
I've got the solution... limit your time with them. I bought a 2nd home after getting marriage (inexpensive) in the mountains. I stay at home with my wife for maybe 2 weeks... then leave. Been doing it for 25 years. Works great!
I actually mentioned this very idea to my wife, of 20 years, a few days ago. I love her but I don’t like her sometimes to the point that I don’t want to be around her. I told her that I could see myself getting my own place after the kids leave the house and when she gets on my nerves leaving for a few days. Of course she didn’t want to hear that suggestion because she knows I’ll do it without giving 2 f*cks. I realized that she doesn’t mind annoying me as long as I don’t leave. I could give her the silent treatment and she wouldn’t care as long as I’m in the next room she’s good. How did this come about? Did you just do it or did the wife push your buttons and you were like f*ck this?
She was fine with it. When the kids were little, I sometimes took them with me. Now, I just go solo. I stay away anywhere from 10-20 days, come back for anywhere from 7-14 days. When she worked (part time), she worked weekends (nurse) - so that worked out great too. If you are around someone 24x7 you will grow to hate every little nuance of their personality. It's inevitable.
@@BlackMan614 Our last two kids are 16 & 17 years old. One is college bound next year and the other will be a high school senior. We won’t probably be true empty nesters but one can dream. I love her and want to grow old with her of which I let her know consistently but she’s annoying and she knows it. She’s not purposely doing so but I just need a break from her. I don’t believe it will be as long as your hiatus but a few days here and there would be great. I had already planned to begin some outside hobbies and activities to stay away from home for some time but this is more my style. I don’t always want to “do something” with my time. I leased an apartment for 9 months about 2 years ago as a final warning to deal with her obvious issues. She’s good about 80% of the time but women she begins to act like a woman than she’s annoying.
Absolutely true, I have to two friends whom got married and within 3 years became 1/2 the men they were. There are men too whom have a Disney mindset about marriage and they end up living in contempt….. like old cars unfortunately can’t save them all.
It only takes an all of a sudden "I'm not happy" to make the most prospective, family goal oriented, religiously incline moral and successful man to become the most miserable shell of a being. Those who have it all good, of "right wing" (if that's even what is called), "is your duty" and "get into the trenches you coward" and fight a lost war, a sword of Damocles scenario, are deluding themselves. Like I said, and like every man that has swallow the bitter crimsom pill, it only takes those three words to cascade oneself into chaos.
If people followed the bible, regarding marriage, divorce rates would dip drastically. Married as a virgin, women submits to the man, the man leads the house....etc. This isn't a new strategy. But, almost everybody ruins that opportunity in the their mid teens because the culture tells them to "sow their wild oats". Marriage itself is not bad... but the whole system has collapsed and we have gotten away from what marriage was intended to be. Purity is not valued anymore. I tried the captain save a hoe route ("Man'd Up") and like 99% of us, got rocked.
I believe the Bible 100% but the problem is that people are not getting married for progeny anymore. The lack of necessity for marriage (or even children) is a huge problem.
And if the moon were made of green cheese, then anything would be possible!!!! People DON'T follow the Bible. GET OVER IT, AND STOP LIVING IN FANTASY LAND.
@@Erick-di9gm Sure, but she wasn't supposed to. She didn't follow the rules that were set. Like I said, things work when the rules are followed and the structure that was set in place is followed. Whether anyone believes the bible or not, it's tough to argue that structure it lays out, doesn't offer the best opportunity to succeed in marriage.
I have 125 acres with a small farm, a 29 ft camper and a few greenhouses. The new gf came out but you have to do your business in the woods. This is a guarantee she'll stay away😂 fortress of solitude is a must for men
Been married 3 times because everyone told me that was what I was supposed to do. Don’t fall for it. If you don’t capitulate and admit you are wrong they will try to find a guy who will. The good news is that you will have a free pass to do it right and tell her to not to bring her toothbrush
I reject their 'admission fee' conceit they ask us to make that "marriage is the basis of all prosperous society." That's where they lose me. It's both questionable and unverifiable.
Actually, I think they are right about marriage being the basis of a prosperous society. I work at a university, and virtually all students I deal with (engineering) come from strong in-tact homes. These kids go on to having very good careers. The problem is that the present culture encourages women to pursue their lives in a very selfish manner. You can blame it on feminism or family law. But laws are reactive. That is people create laws. You've got to change the culture (people's opinion) if you want to change the laws. Considering the landscape today, I wouldn't get married until I can afford a divorce.
I was single much of my 20s and early 30s. Got married at 34 and find life much more fulfilling raising a family with my wife. Random hookups and materialism gave me empty feelings.
@@isabellalora6533 I was single like this guy and got married at 34 got divorcing in the second year of marriage. Fortunately I am from Zimbabwe a third world country so divorce can't be messy. I am marrying again got engaged a week ago and I find companionship better than sleep around with no fixed abode. I have worked on my self. Significant other vs sleeping around. I choose significant other all the time.
It’s not just either marriage or random hookups. I own a Software Company. I don’t have time for a marriage and taking care of a woman. I also don’t have time for random hookups. Married men usually cope. She gets less attractive, she starts nagging a lot more over time, she gets more annoyed by your behavior over time, she loses attraction over time. It’s ok to get married but shit seems terrible to me. Freedom is so much more of an attractive prospect.
Most of us are not anti marriage. We are anti marriage in Western society. If you truly wish to get married, just go to a patriarchal country and stay there.
Why is it a patriarchal country? Because the men did not allow the free sex movement to enter. They said no to women. Now you want men to go there? Look at the passport bros. Supply and demand. They are going there for hook ups. They are creating a world that use to be located in the red light district. I wonder when the patriarch will come down on western men for coming for their women and using them.
32 years old. Never married, never had children, atheist. In the process of buying my dreamhouse, and just bought my dream car (brand new GT mustang). It's very easy to not feel any connection with society's norms, like long-term relationships and marriage, when you are atheist. You just see the whole universe as "natural", and monogamy can work, but sometimes it just doesn't work. I'll go out with girls, some girls leave, and I have almost zero feeling when they disappear. Because I understand none of this shit is going to matter 10,000 years from now. Stop stressing if you die alone; everyone is eventually going to leave you.
Hahahaha, so true. Especially the modern woman now shaming men who don't want a single mom cause they aren't "Man enough to take on that responsibility" Call me a boy, baby, immature. I don't care but I'm not stupid! hahaha
Rich I value so much of what you have to say and I watch as much of your content as I can. I also agree that marriage is a risk for men. That being said, a healthy marriage is the best case scenario for children. Just as we tell the women “Stop picking bad guys” we also need to stop picking bad women to marry. It’s not easy, especially in western countries. But lives for men are not easy, period. Modern women need to be humbled and with society slowly crumbling, eventually they will be and then a positive sentiment towards marriage and men will return.
@@MikeSW I would say that the marriage is a religious, spiritual and cultural matter. A divorce might need to end up in court but the marriage has no inherent need of it. I recommend Unwin's "Sex and Culture" to anyone interested in these things. The online summary is good for getting a thumbnail sketch.
There’s some good men in the world who are anti woke and not brainwashed, but even they aren’t in depth experts like Rich is. Between reading his book and listening to his videos he’s proved him self right time and time again. I’ve known great guys, tough rugged men who subscribe to things like happy wife happy life, and other false ideas. Rich is top of the field when it comes to women, dating and what men are doing wrong. If you haven’t, get his book immediately; even if you don’t need it, Get it as a gift for someone who would benefit from reading it, there’s plenty of people who could use it to improve their lives.. (if they do the work) DO THE WORK
I have been divorced for seventeen years and despite some people trying to tell me that I am actually miserable which is their problem, it is totally wrong and I mean wrong. I have never been happier than when I was married to my ex wife guys. My ex wife’s best friend is divorced and never remarried, a friend I had at one point is separated from his wife and lives by himself.
A successful guy can go overseas and date or marry overseas. If it doesn’t work then go back home (to USA or Canada). Alimony gets tricky across intl jurisdictions. Kids can also be tricky in that case. But the thing is...if a woman knows you would bolt, she won't divorce you. It removes the carrot so she won't even attempt it. Passport bros surely have more luck as well but I don't recommend that. Trying to insert a foreign girl into your North American life would be harder than just going overseas. Otherwise every problem she had in North America is your fault. She has no friends, your fault. In law problems. Your fault. Trouble finding work...driving... it's all on you to fix. And some have a lot of problems. Hard stuff over the long haul.
Two comments: (1) Religious marriage is a covenant/contract/commitment between the man and the woman ONLY. Government is not involved. The concerns voiced by Rich and others seem to be about government-style marriage where the government makes the rules. Religious marriages go back thousands of years. Government marriages are more recent. Most religious commentators seem to be unaware of this distinction. (2) In the Bible, women are directed to be virgins at the time of marriage, or marry the man who consentually took their virginity. I found no similar instruction that men should be virgins at the time of marriage, nor are men required to be monogamous within marriage, unless they promised to be so in their marriage covenants.
How about a simple gold wedding band? It served me well for many years. Diamonds didn’t fit my life style. Between nursing and meditation they were only a distraction. Peace. ❤
You should really have a one on one with Pearl. She actually agrees with you 100%. She's pretty informed on this topic, and she made a good 1 hour rebuttal to them.
Yes. She's awesome. She's the ultimate litmus test for fake conservatives and fake traditional women. She exposes ALLL the hypocrisy and treachery in the church. She gets VICIOUSLY attacked by Christians. Especially Christian women who are flat out Jezebels.
If its a matter of picking the right girl and there are these girls out there, why are there not more good marriages? Its not like these good women are out there looking and men are ignoring them because they are good girl virgins.
No, it's because she has the stones to ACTUALLY speak the Biblical truth and expose women. She exposes all the fake tradcons and fake Christian women. More than anyone she's exposed just how much feminism is in the church. Which is why she gets so viciously attacked. She DARES to go after the Jezebel spirit. That spirit made THE most powerful profit in the OT run for his life and pray for death.
I always wonder what motivates men to get married, especially these days. Is it the woman pressurising them into it??? Or do they genuinely want to get married. Personally i’m not into marriage and never will be, am in a 20yr + LTR with no desire to ever marry, fortunately my other half is the same. So marriage kind of perplexes me and always has. I feel lots of couples do it for face or to boast, but I could be wrong. Or do they think it’s proof of a stronger or better relationship? Or sign of commitment? I would love to see people’s reasons for getting married.
you do talk a lot like a married man, being in a LTR at all is a waste of time you experience a lot more by not being one, I think about the things I would of missed out on if I got together with a woman for 20 years
I wish this wasn’t true, but it just is. The family law is absolutely brutal to men and to children, and is guaranteed to destroy you if the woman wants it to.
I must have been incredibly unlucky. I was with a virgin and it was a sexual nightmare. It was pure hell. One of those wait until marriage types. Wanting it once a week meant sexual addiction. She was completely sex shamed clearly.
Most of what passes as Christian sex education, as taught to 10-15 year olds, lumps all sexual activity, even in marriage, as immoral. Pastors and layperson teachers cannot delineate moral/immoral, so you end up with teens and young adults becoming libertines or complete prudes.
I am the only guy I know where marriage is a benefit. My poor brother in law is being destroyed in his divorce. I will loose nothing if I were to get divorced. These guys are pretty much asking for it as far as I can tell.
The problem with marriage...is American women......followed by English women......apart from that...can be good to go. Issue is many relationships are karmic....without spirit...with service to self. Getting married in USA or UK one would be crazy.
Rich may want to brush up on his knowledge of history before making such comments. At 1:58, he says marriage has only been around for about 10,000 years (probably true, most believe it started somewhere in Asia) yet Genghis Khan died less than 800 years ago?? So how could marriage have not been around during Genghis Khan's life? What time does Rich think Genghis lived?
The main way I see it degrade men, is when the wife uses the kids to sway the man's decisions. After a few years they lose all the affection and desire. Then the manipulation game comes in and at the 10 ish year mark the bail and take half.
I honestly could give a shit about what any woman or man thinks. I like money, Id like to hear what you guys are upto for income not what some broad thinks.
12:09, I always argue with this, not because I dont believe in women having baggage is negative to a relationship, is because people will say always arguments to disprove it, is better by using logic, I mean if you have been with multiple guys, and all of the sudden you become monogamous, that is fucking convinient right?, specially if you have a lot of money.
