Because very few of them gets to control/heavily influence the press and the press is, by and large, doing its job in most European countries - combined that with that most, if not all, European electoral systems results in there being multiple candidates from multiple parties so that for just one of them to actually have a majority of total popular support is pretty significant. (This is contrasted to the "first past the post" system inherited from the British empire in many English speaking nations, USA & UK being the main contrasts)
It's not really a European thing, more of a general leader thing. If you look at the poll he showed early in the video you'll see that the Japanese and Korean leaders fare worse than average European leaders. And then there's Biden. Of the leaders with more than 50% approval, Albanese in Australia barely has a year in office and Lula also just got back in office succeeding a pretty unpopular leader. It's the other 3 (Obrador, Berset and Modi) that are exceptions, and they're from 3 different continents with very different political outlooks.
@@badaboum2 The original comment "framed" it to be within the European countries and so I just kept it confined to that. My comment just states that there are two main parts (a simplification ofc) which consists of a free and "uncontrolled/restrained" press AND a political system which promotes a more clearly separated plethora of parties and candidates to represent all the varying views of a population instead of "bulking" it into more or less two buckets to mainly explain why, European leaders don't really tend to have "high" approval ratings. However, even in Europe you have Hungary, where the "uncontrolled" press part is missing, hence Orban gets to hold significant influence/control over the stories being told & same thing with Erdogan in Turkey and for the UK there's the FPTP system combined with some ...semi-questionable... press coverage of Conservative policies over the last ~decade.
As aj Italian who did not vote for her and who does not support her, I'd say this is somewhat accurate, but you forgot to mention that she is also popular because she wasn't involved in any major corruption scandal. Not her party, she herself was never involved in shady businesses as far as we know.
@@Graeberwave Maybe she was but he's dynamics now are quite moderate and sort conservative in other issues and free market defense, pragmatic conservative right. No surprises.
It’s pretty normal in democracies because anyone who didn’t vote for her directly, usually disapprove, and even then most only have the support of 20-30% of the population for any given party, and they form a coalition government. That is until the two party system is reached like in the US, even then it’s usually just barely at 50% with only a handful of people deciding on the day. There was a video on voting in an animal kingdom or something, that goes into more detail.
@@mitas3484 I would argue it's a problem if a system always elects someone the majority of people dislike, and that it isn't very democratic in the colloquial sense for such an outcome to even be possible like can happen under FPTP.
@@meowmiaumiauw The problem is that there isn't anybody who actually will represent the majority of people. In Europe there are more parties to try better representing people though it means each party is only going to represent the feelings of a proportionally smaller group of people and have approval ratings closer to 30%. America forces people to be either republican or democrat bringing the approval closer to 50. However because the policies that are republican or democrat are for some reason split up at what almost feels random it ends up representing its constituents less and forces people to be single issue voters.
@@imaloser5689 Valid, it's just that there exist world leaders who can be confirmed to have high approval ratings including Modi and various others from decades past. To me, that implies it's at least _possible_ to not elect people the majority of citizens dislike. This video is about how Meloni is more popular than most world leaders and her ratings are negative, there's no way that's a positive sign
To not be like other politicians you must not treat politics as a popularity contest. That makes it extremely unlikely you'll get elected, so naturally that's the rarity in our societies.
Honestly, I don't regard those polls as representetive as they are intended to be, I think Meloni is really popular in Italy right now (more than what it's shown to be), a lot of people that didn't vote for her at the last elections now would and those that did vote for her continue to give her support (which is impressive given that when someone starts governing usually looses popularity). The only problem she has are the other members of her party, a lot are under qualified and did not do the rebranding you mentioned
@@Baktrianostons voted for her where I live.... And definitely you know everyone's vote in you city 😂😂😂 Guy the polls cannot be wrong at least not by a lot it's statistics.
@alessandrof.6546 the pools and statistics exists..... Then you aren't considering that the same people also hear what schlein wants to do: no agreements with any north african country even the ones did by them in the past.....
Semmai è il contrario, oltretutto è il governo con meno voti della storia repubblicana. Il partito ha vinto le elezioni con il 26% dei voti, mentre i 5 stelle superarono il 30%. Ed è stata un elezione con l'astensione più alta vista in Italia, quindi in percentuale è un partito votato da pochi italiani, agli altri partiti è andata peggio ma nessuno ha un vero appoggio dal popolo italiano, quindi state parlando di un fenomeno pompato dai media e che ha avuto ascesa sociale solamente per l'ignavia degli avversari. Un fenomeno fragile.
@@Baktrianos 🤣🤣🤣 she is in a coalition... And tons of Italians don't vote..... Statistics are statistics point, your wannabe opinion doesn't count. Guy i voted for the left, after who they put in charge and what she wants they can disappear for what I care, their official policy is betrayal now.
@@_blank-_ Tajani is the best they have right now... it's far from being charismatic, but it's capable e famous. So.. he won't lead FI to be a major party, but he can keep it togheter.
It's one thing to tell people what they want to hear. It's another thing actually doing what you promised. The Conservatives in Britain have been promising to reduce immigration in manifestos for the past 13 years and infact its gotten worse. Its not a surprise they will lose the next elections
Unfortunately no one else is going to decrease immigration, labour want more of it which is 🤮🤮🤮 and I don’t like conservatives cos their posh money grubbing bastards, who tf am I gonna vote for next election, there is no middle ground inbetween labour and conservative
@@lewis123417it’s got worse because Tories have intentionally created a huge backlog to keep their narrative of uncontrolled immigration. Immigration is necessary for 1st world countries with huge global economies, how can people (like you) not know this 🤦♂️
It’s unfair to compare Meloni to Conte and Draghi; sure, they were popular, but they were being boosted by the Covid-era “rally around the leader” phenomenon too.
Tbh they aere popular cuz of they fact thst for the better or the wordt they actually kept coherent with her ideas and actually helped the italian econmy and people unlike Giorgia who since she's got in power has done shit other then some petty talks with tunisia and some poland style whining at the eu. She isnt even coherent as she is practically soing the same shit the said conte and Draghi governaments did
@@ruskygelovich5469 Exactly this: and that is why Salvini and Renzi are in the gutter. They change ideas depending on whats popular at the moment every 15 minutes. How can you trust a politician who only says what you want to hear, and then act at his own convenience?
dearest....you hardly know the Italian people. Do you think they cannot tell the difference between a Goldman SACHS Banker and a woman who has been in politics since she was in high school? Come on
@@briton3851 Indeed. Immigration is being sold as a way to pay pensions... but it is more often a way to reduce salaries and, thus, to keep corporate profits high. Neither the "natives" nor the displaced immigrants end up being happy with this and the economy only seems to be growing because of the resulting increase in housing prices.
no, it doesn't....... if that didn't happen, the globalist antichrists like Hillary Clinton would be at the wheel...... Trump is the best thing that could happen to world politics....... soon, the EU will get abolished too...... each country belongs to its people, not a few greedy cunts at BlackRock
@@XZ1. Exactly, just like Giorgia. That's why their history is the same. They present themselves as "outsiders" when in fact they have been in the game for decades.
slovakia as well. all we got from it was as incompetent, narcissistic man trying to navigate us through covid (which happened just as he entered office). it was a complete disaster.
I think you missed the point. Italian GDP , after more than a decade of crisis, is finally growing again, outclassing most of the European comparables. I think Meloni is harvesting the work done by Draghi, and only time will tell if she’s doing a good job. On the other side the alternatives to Meloni are simply embarrassing.
That's always the way. People don't understand the lag time between policy implementation and the effects actually paying off (or the damage, as the case may be), and so often give the credit or blame to the wrong people.
L’economia Italiana cresceva perché Draghi era competente ed affidabile, la Meloni non lo è ( a prescindere dalla sua ideologia, nulla di ciò che ha promesso l’ha fatto, anzi spesso ha fatto l’esatto opposto) quindi boh.
I was saying this for years. Of course many extreme leaders are winning, while more moderate ones are losing popularity. People have actual problems, they don't care if the right wing or the left wing is in the government, as long as those problems are solved. I think that nowadays the left has became too woke to actually solve anything and the moderate left and right are so into political correctness that they can't even dare to point the problems in the first place.
As an Italian, I am still waiting for her to do something for right-wing voters (that is not an tax amnesty) instead of doing something against left-wing voters.
She is behind the agreements with Tunisia to stop migrants, you cannot blame her for what is behind her control but for what she does and she is doing. Also you aren't considering that a lot of the people that vote for her don't agree with her on several things they just vote against the left.......
In the spainish election nothing changed really, beside some vox voters moved to the Conservatives. Probably because they seem safer and have become much more right wing in their rhetoric of late. In otherwords most parties are shifting to the right wing but for voters, for now, vox shifted too much rightward.
Sanchez deliberately chose a snap election when very large numbers of Spaniards were on holiday away from home therefore less likely to vote than if they were at home - per AP "The date chosen for the early election comes in the middle of Spain’s summer holiday period, with many people likely to be away from their voting areas." These absentees would be weighted heavily toward PP and Vox voters. Although turnout was very good, it would likely have been much higher if it hadn't been in the middle of holiday season and we can expect the PP and Vox votes to have been quite a bit higher. It was a clever strategy by Sanchez, although undemocratic to suppress the right wing vote.
@@jamesevans1890 In most other countries middle class people, ie those who can afford to go on holiday, have a preponderance to vote left/liberal, while those who cannot vote right-wing. It is peculiar that this should be the other way round in Spain.
Hope you are right. And hope that it will replicate in my own country (Portugal), which had a far-right dictatorship for an even longer period (48 years). It's pure childishness to vote on a bunch of jerks, just because you don't like the guys that are in office.
A few misleading things: 1. Speaking of Berlusconi as if he’s still alive whereas he died over a month ago. 2. Meloni softened her position on the LGBTQ+ topic (min 7:43). This really didn‘t happen. Her government proposed a law to deligitimate LGBTQ+ families and she clearly stated in several interviews that she would not step back on this.
Regardless of personality or policy, leaders tend to be more popular when people think things are going well and less popular when people think they're not
That's why I love our system in Switzerland. We don't have a ruling party or president. We have a parliament and the people of Switzerland. The system is slow but very stable.
She said she would do something about illegal immigration and she is now doing something indeed. Very serious and tough conversations especially with Tunisia are being initiated by her. And the results will come sooner or later. She has a consistent personality and clear direction and her stance on the issue is quiet rational. She is voicing what other europeans are not expressing clearly I feel. But these small wins are fairly easy ones and populist in nature. She will have to pass the economy exam and nail it before sementing herself as a respected and positvely viewed EU leader. She is fairly new to her position and if the economy in Italy continues to suffer, she will not remain as popular as she is now. Populism is a fuel that burns intensely but runs out fast. Something else will then be needed.
Supporting Tunisia's human rights abuses and dispossessing lgbtq parents of their legal guardianship, very rational and well balanced. Me expressing myself as a European: She can go f herself and her upside-down idol.
Yep...she will eventually be booted out and then they will elect another tough talker on immigration who will do nothing, and be booted out in turn. This is a neverending cycle.
Give her a few years. Meloni-chan will inevitably break the wrong one's spaghetti before cooking them, and then those polls are gonna drop like they seemingly always do in Italy.
Only for a random ass party in the coalition with 2 total members withdraws from the government, taking away the majority the government needs to stand , and It all collapses.
She's just harvesting Mario Draghi's work, in 3/5 years we will be on the edge of the default again, but it will not be her problem because she will be gone already 😂
It's not really hard - she listens to public opinion, GDP is growing properly for the first time in forever and the trains are running on time. Speaking of trains, they're now far better than Germany's current joke of a rail system. They've got some wonderful high-speed rail that's so affordable, comfortable and reliable that it was directly responsible for Alitalia going bankrupt. But the real test is the longer term, let's check back in a couple of years to see if she maintains her popularity or crashes and burns like so many previous Italian PMs.
@@albertofuzzi7200 if she is truly skillful leader, she can make draghi's decisions 2.0 and leverage those. They seem different profile leaders (topics they talk of) so this could play out.
@@effexon i sure hope so! But, regardless of how capable Meloni might be, the remaining of her party is a bunch of inepts, half of whom are still to this day fascist, and the other believe themselves to be hobbits... If she succeed to get anything useful out of them she would do a miracle. The only one with the head on his shoulders seems to be Nordio.
As a Ukrainian, net approval rating of +60 or more is almost always a sign of having (very) bad neighbors or a fascist leader. At least I'm glad we're not the latter. So yeah, -1 is pretty good.
You have a jew as a leader who is using white ukranians as pawns in a war to decimate you. Him and putin are on the same page about white people and getting rid of them
As a Spaniard, Italy is such a strange element. It is like a dark mirror, a window into an alternative universe in which Spain tended dramatically towards the right. Directly into the uncanny valley. Things look similar enough, but then right under the surface, the two countries couldn't be more different with respect to social ideas.
Hasn't Spain been very unwilling to deal with its far-right (still very recent) history, and is currently moving towards the right with the conservative PP willing to form a coalition with the far-right?
What a pity of comment is that one of yours. Since the end of Francoist Spain your beautiful country has fallen in to the hands of free masons and left-leaning capitalist lobbies, promoting all kinds of degeneracy, as in woke US states. Franco was far from perfect, but was for sure the last great statist Spain had.
@@fannishfanning160 Yeah it's weird how a Spaniard can be so misinformed when their politics is already about to shift that way, and they were literally a fascist dictatorship until somewhere in the 70's
Your video suggests Berlusconi is part of Meloni's coalition. He died last month, so unless she's re-recruited him from beyond the grave I don't think he is any longer!
I appreciate Meloni too. In opposite to most right wing parties, like AFD or Le Pen, Meloni is pro EU & NATO. She picks up worries on migration and decline of Italy and entire Europe. Meloni is a symphatic person. So all together she gets very high sympathy from all over Europe.
Belgian guy here. Europe’s permanent diplomatic summit. We may not have invented the art of compromise, but we surely perfected it like no other nation. Because we’re probably the most successful failed nation state on the planet (and owning it like bosses, Nigel F.). Citizens in a coalition government system know very well that competent elected politicians know that it’s better to negotiate a slightly absurd political compromise so as to serve the higher good (serving the country). A healthy political life, just like a healthy life in general, is an ideal most easily striven for in a country where people know that life is always about compromising, not demonising your opponents, having the ability to see the bigger picture and not just party interest etc. The most reasonable populations can be found in coalition government countries. The more complex the system, the more moderate the people. Belgium never had a civil war in spite of having a coalition system on top of a deep economic fracture along THE European cultural and linguistic divide (Romance languages v. Germanic languages). Oh, and both cultural and linguistic communities claim Brussels (Belgium’s eternal “Jerusalem question) on the basis of historical and emotional claims. And in spite of this huge mess, not a single civil unrest the likes of The Troubles. Compare this to the toxicity in the House of Commons, the violence, the resentment among the population etc in FPTP Britain. Of course the people who have to live in such a savage place had issues with another Monument of Fudge: the EU. The poor unfortunate souls. So yeah I perfectly understand why Meloni is popular among the Italians: a fantastically chaotic people who someday or another steers their beautiful but dysfunctional imbroglio of a country through the waves with a level of grace and elegance those shouters in the Commons can only dream of. France is another example of a horribly polarising political system with shouting, actual violence and an inability to compromise for the sake of the national interest. But at least they dress better than those hooligans in the Commons.
@@GwainSagaFanChannel Loved her as well. Indians are socially conservative and they love conservative European politicians in general. I mean look at how Trudeau was treated by Modi and compare that with Meloni. Light years difference.
@@Kalimdor199Menegroth using 'conservative' to describe the state of / hate in indian society is an euphemism, you literlly have fascist pogroms already and many popular TV stations promoting genocide and inciting hatred
@@midnattsol6207 No state of hate exists of Indian society. Sectarian local violence has been occurring on and off since independence. You are just grasping at straws and spread misinformation.
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It sure helps that the media suddenly stopped reporting all of the asylum seekers arriving in Italy, despite them being way way less when Meloni was not the PM...
Because people have the iq of a sheep and belive that somehow she can control how many people land.... But wait when salvini said that he stopped migrants it wasn't true but instead now the opposite is true....
My 2 cents: i didn't vote for her, I wasn't terrified by her like some people in the far left, but I didn't like her either. I was surprised by her standing for Ukraine despite being an unpopular position in italy, and in general by her international behavior. I like her in this regard. I also like her for not giving in to fiscal populist, considering the state of our finances. It seems that she (like many before her) promised to her voters to be a candy (wo)man, but then she turned into a dentist. I mean, I am glad she did, but it seems like in italy you have to promise people popular (but self destructing) policies, and then you just rule and do what you have to do to not destroy the country.
This video is very accurate just like the other ones I watched on this channel, anyway its authors and the English speaking press in general forgot to say one thing.The Italian Social Movement, the party founded in 1946 to give continuity to fascism in the republican Italy, had undergone several mutations by the late 1970s and 1980s (such as becoming an Atlanticist party). Then it was disbanded between 1994 and 1995 to start a new party, the National Alliance. Giorgia Meloni joined the party's youth section in 1992 or 1993, when the Italian Social Movement's days were numbered. The National Alliance rejected fascism and all the previous ideological framework (its leader went to Israel to apologize for the Holocaust) and became a liberist, nationalist, conservative, anti-immigration and pro-European Union party. Around 2008, the National Alliance merged with Berlusconi's Forza Italia party. A few years later Giorgia Meloni tried to refound the National Alliance, but she did not have the rights to use that name and the former symbol, so the reborn National Alliance became Fratelli d'Italia. National Alliance and Fratelli d'Italia are the same political entity, the only difference is the strong criticism of the euro and EU economic policies that Fratelli d'Italia made a few years ago, when the context was different from that in which National Alliance acted. So between the founding of the Italian Social Movement in 1946 and the election of Meloni in 2022 the party, the ideology, Italy, Europe, the Italians and the economic situation of the country have changed. The world has changed. Continuing to associate Meloni with fascism is disregarding the changes that have taken place in the Italian politics and society. Moreover, the idea of turning Italy into a presidential republic starts from afar and has nothing to do with the insinuation, made by some, that Meloni wants to be a new fascist dictator. This proposal was formulated as early as the 1980s even by the Italian Socialist Party, has always been a workhorse of the National Alliance but has also been supported by Berlusconi's Forza Italia. And the origin lies in the constitutionally prescribed weakness of the main offices of the Italian state. The first office of the state is the president of the Republic who has few functions and little power, the second is the president of the Senate, the third is the president of the Chamber of Deputies, and the fourth is not the prime minister, because in Italy there is no prime minister, but the president of the Council of Ministers (which is the role held by Meloni). This condition terribly slows down the activity of the Italian politics, whose work is based on a continuous bouncing of laws from one Chamber to the other.
I find it interesting that Europe is becoming more right leaning (despite normally being more left leaning than America) and America is becoming more left leaning (despite normalcy being more right leaning than Europe). Though Europe is still far more liberal than America on economic issues and these shifts are really only on social issues. But definitely interesting. Italy is my favorite European country but I’m also very progressive leaning and I was worried when Meloni took power but I guess we should not jump to conclusions yet. I’m American and I hope the best for my county and the rest of the world including Italy.
(Sorry for the long post): the Italian right is different from American right. We have two right. Liberal right (kinda like the Republicans), and Social Right (post-fascist): they are patriotic nationalists but socialists (in fact Italy was then called RSI: Italian Social Republic. The video mentioned the name of the post Mussolini party, MSI: Italian Social Movement. Mussolini's fans always bragged about that he created the welfare state, pensions, and free homes for veterans, widows, and orphans.
Don't use liberal that way when talking about european countries, because it means a different things. If you want to talk about liberal as in "the libs", say "progressive".
Actually a new poll has her at 57% popularity with only 41% disapproval. So if you think the poll you used is a good rating... I believe the poll I cited as all the evidence and facts support it.
@@lanausea1335 Dico qual e la verita. Il sondaggio e il Pew Research Poll, che e una societa di sondaggio piu grande e affidabile di quella utilizzata qui in questo video. E stato pubblicato sei giorni fa. Non collego niente. Vai a cercarlo, ci vogliono dieci secondi.
For English speakers, the poll I was asked about is the Pew Research Center which is a far better poll than what is used in this video, to my knowledge. It was put out 6 days ago. So if he thinks Meloni's numbers are really good in the poll he uses, look at how much better she is actually doing than that. There is a 16% spread favorable to unfavorable.
@@marcocarlson1693 It's Italian politics. The US from WWII to the modern day has had 13 presidents including Joe Biden. The Italians by contrast have had almost 70 governments in the same time frame. Give her another year and reevaluate then.
@@petesperandio Yes, of course I know that. Pretty crazy by comparison. However, I can tell you this For Sure. She will be in office as long as she wants to be, and that Law allows. The only good thing about Italy's system is they can kick a guy out at anytime. Think there are a few people in the U.S. that wish they could kick Biden out, and other President's in the past too. But they can't. See, in Italy the people run the country, they really do, and not the politicians exactly. In the U.S. people feel hopeless, and can't do anything. So, there is a good and bad for both.
I'm sure that everyone that payed for your education, taxes and government spending included, as little as it might be, are very happy with this result. Be sure to eventually come back and fight with the rest of us to fix this mess of a country, which is still getting messed up more and more
The good thing about the globalization it is that nowadays we can easily emigrate , according to the Index of economic freedom by the Heritage Foundation created by Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher to promote the values of capitalism Italy is 57th country that follows more the free market policies of capitalism. Did you emigrate to a country that follows more Karl Marx socialist economic policies like Cuba or Venezuela or to a country that follows more Ronald's and Maggie's capitalist policies like Ireland or Denmark ?
Meloni is a great politician, a white fly, one who made herself... she never looked for shortcuts, she destroyed every prediction with her determination and her high values, the Italians could not fail to notice her, it was a matter of time. A phrase of Meloni that represents her is this, "the decline is not a destiny, the decline is a choice".
@@gudemik5335 most Italians, obviously in Italy there is strong propaganda against politicians who help the country, so there are certainly also Italians like you, who are totally conditioned by propaganda.
To her credit, Meloni seems to be encouraging entrepreneurship and re-prioritizing children and families. Western societies have lost the plot. Poland and Hungary seem to be making some solid moves in this direction. Plummeting birth rates necessitate massive immigration, just to cover the looming pension crisis and shortfalls.
The blame of France is 100000% founded for anyone who knows history, even some people from the left have said the same things..... And all asked the French to fu*k off and mind their own business after what they did....
I remember all the brexthickers in the Unicorn Kingdom thought Meloni was gonna attack the EU. But she has proved not to be as dumb as the English. Picking unnecessary fights with the EU is exactly that - unnecessary.
Sono untaliano che non ha votato per Meloni. So però perché la maggioranza degli italiani la vota. Perché l'alternativa è pessima. La sinistra in Italia è su posizioni assurde. Estremamente ideologiche. Non vanno bene per una società ed una economia del XXI secolo. D'altra parte sono gli stessi ditigenti che fino al 1989 inneggiavano al comunismo. Alla meloni (che pure è di estrema destra) é bastato porsi sulla linea economica occidentale e Nato per ricevere il consenso dei moderati. Ci vorrebbe una sinistra moderna, più realista. Ma soprattutto che abbandoni nei fatti e non dolo a parole la filosofia marxista😢
Short answer to the question that the video omited: SDP didn't win the Springs parliamentary elections in Finland which meant that Sanna Marin isn't anymore the Finnish PM.
She's just rebranding herself to save face. Her government has already starting stripping the rights of LGBTQ Italians (but you just glossed over those problems). At the end of the day, she is still a far-right extremist and her rebranding her image is just her politicking. Never forget that when citizenry support far-right extremism, it never ends well for those in the minority.
"a far-right extremist" I always wonder how those woke / commies crying wolf would react, when one day growing destabilization would actually lead to some genuine far right dictatorship.
She’s popular because her coalition appeals to old people, and guess what Italy has plenty of? We youths have virtually no say on politics here, we are consistently outvoted on every matter
@@Paul-bs5wl yeah and neither do the vast majority of uneducated boomers that vote. besides democracy doesn't care about knowledge, everyone should have a voice regardless of their expertise in politics because that's what politicians are there for
@@Paul-bs5wlYou must know a lot of dumb young people then. Here, the old generations only spew nonsense about traditions and outdated values, things that have no use anymore in a country.
She is in power for very little time. Italian media is mostly controlled by the current government, the population is very old and ignorant. That's why she is (still) very popular.
RAI (the italian national television) is clearly not controlled by the government but by capital. the national television is very much against her, so are the boomers that watch tv. Also Meloni is most popular within zoomers and millenials as polls have shown.
Its almost like lying through your teeth about a person you don't like not only doesn't pay off, but makes you blind to the obvious answer of "she's not Mussolini"
@@ChrisGrump considering that Mussolini killed less people than America only in iraq.... But Italians killed mussolini and appended him in the centre of Milan..... The Americans people responsible are still there living happily and rich.... Who care what she wants or think she cannot instaurate dictatorship it's impossible, even vice interviewed a political analyst that almost laughed when asked if fascism will come back...... It's just that leftist belive everything the right wing does is fascist and right wing belive everything the left does is communism 😑😑😑
And she is very much showing herself taking her own path and fearlessly sticking it to the populist and far right, rather than pandering to them and their voters, as well as taking a clear stand against authoritarianism and for liberal democratic values, and calling out the italian alt-left for their lack of these values. If she really wanted to move in the direction of fascism or authoritarianism, she would need Russia's support like every other movements that wants those things. Instead she has taken an unbelievably clear stance against Russia and Putin.
I'm french and i can tell you that Macron is very unpopular. Probably the least loved and most divisive president of our 5th Republic. The next president is likely to be right-wing conservative or even far-right. It's not impossible given the resentment of the french over insecurity, violence and poorly managed immigration in this country. By the way, love Italy our latin brothers 🇮🇹 ❤ 🇫🇷
"poorly managed immigration", yes, poorly managed over decades of right-wing goverments, who never put any effort to integrate them and offer better life perspective, and also socialists who did nothing different or very little. Macron is behaving exactly like every right-wing government of the past, if not worse. Marine le Pen is just the natural persecution of this politics, she's not really different to what you have today. And it's possible that when she will take power, someone Zemmour-like will say that she's too weak so he will take over in polls, and so on and so on, bringing politics even more in the right-wing, without ever solving any problem. Ps I'm italian, and we've the very same situation.
I wonder if that Italian lass is really a Molony ? In my long past youth, Brother Edgar used to refer to my classmate, Martino Donali, as Donnelly. Sometimes I think that all those Italians would be more comfortable with an 'O' or a Mac" as their surname prefix.
She may have run as a far right candidate, but she has made nothing but common sense moves to keep the integrity of her country intact. Despite the merits and humaneness of migration, it's pitfalls have shaken many countries to move way to the right in recent years. Countries that struggle to integrate immigrants successfully look at a country like France and the population wants none of it. She is a true patriot of her country and the people see this.
Wasn't the granddaughter offended when some US celebrity made a joke about Mussolini's hanging picture? Imagine getting upset at a joke about the death of a fascist dictator, regardless if they're family.
If MSM has an opinion, a large number of sane people immediately become skeptical. I like Meloni, nationalism & populism, with a sober view of broken migration system, plus a willingness to uphold foundational democratic principles & cooperate with allies.
Polls? You can make a poll outside a school and you'll get a certain result: make the same poll somewhere else and... Italy suffered its most devastating coup 30 years ago and we're deeper than ever into it. The number of dog drops on the pavement is a far more accurate indication of people feelings towards their country. But, as a member of the Journalist Youths you go unshaken. Every dictatorship is able to show, with numbers, how "popular" they are.
Corrwction she does thingd to keep her ass on her seat, like any other politician in italy tbh. Her populist ideals are only fuel to keep the momentum alive and her only reala dvantage is the fa t she is technically new to governance as her party is for the firdt time in power as a coalition leader. Her policies tho are nothing of what she promised in the electoral campaign (and thank god to that lol).
I am increasingly supportive of monarchies as national constitutional heads for all European countries. I never could anticipate democratic politics in Europe could be so dysfunctional and lacking in quality. In contrast I feel Japan & taiwan has a more robust quality system of governance even though the latter does not have a monarchy. It makes me feel concerned for fate of european nations and therefore for democratic setups and protection of human rights across the world.
We have to come to the acceptance that fascism is popular in Europe. It's defeating after all these decades of 'never again' and antifascist consensus, but this consensus is gone and the democratic path to power gives it to fascists.
Well, it was the birthplace of fascism after all. And being a foreigner in Germany showed me that it never really faded away. Germans and most other Europeans are rather xenophobic, they merely try to phrase their ideas in ways that "soften" them.
Fascism is great, whats so wrong about it? If you're referring to "violation of human rights" and "discrimination" then you dont know much about how the world works
Yup. I'm center left oriented, but holy shit most of left voters are utterly stupid. Open door on immigration, 0 fucks bout minimum wage, but hey, let's just think bout LGBT's cuz it's trendy and not giving a single fuck bout other topics
It's one thing to tell people what they want to hear. It's another thing actually doing what you promised. The Conservatives in Britain have been promising to reduce immigration in manifestos for the past 13 years and infact its gotten worse. Its not a surprise they will lose the next elections
It’s frustrating that anyone who focus’s on family and traditional values is viewed as fascist even when pushing for less government. Makes the word mean less
@@AdamBuccaschie What's the west in the first place? Europe? The usa and the "freedom" loving world? The world is diverse mate, the theory of macro civilization is a bullshit and serves very little other then pushing populist and ultra atlantist ideas
she is popular because she has a vision for domestic and foreign politics, she is extremely prepared and focused in what she does. she speaks multiple languages and comes from the "people", ie she has never been sponsored by the big guys with deep pockets. I did not vote for her in the last Italian elections, but I have to recognise her capabilities. In addition, the leftists in Italy are mostly ideological and they live in the clouds, being completely disconnected from everyday life. that is a big problem for Italy, since there is no credible opposition.
Wth are you talking about. Her party was litteralg supported by anti vaccinists and putin's russia lol. She didnt take a stance on the war in ukraie until she got into power and all her short term achievements were just the result of previosu governaments policies that she herself criticized at the time and that know she is taking credit for
I'm honestly just glad EU countries are heading into the Right direction. For me immigration and safety is the most important. And that's something which isn't 1st priority with the Left.
As an American, it seems to me that Europe in general is moving to the right (while the UK is moving to the left). Now while a far right or left leader is unpopular here, the right in Europe seems to focus more on economic and social frustrations.
Europeans are overwhelmingly Social Democrats, especially when it comes to the economy. For instance, barely any right wing politician talks about disbanding the national health services and even guys like Orban made university tuition free or very affordable. In the US this would be called Communism.
France is moving to the right ! The right right right conservative, even far right. I think this country needs order and to find its values. It's a good thing !
IMHO TLDR should, as a news channel, clearly indicate sponsors. After the oompth mention, I assume that Adobe is one, but I see that nowhere indicated. Leaves a bit of an aftertaste.
Certainly.She s pro traditional values and pro West preparedness for War which is proper to do by pro democratic countries.She s a new world leader now representing otherwise shy Italian play in world affairs.This might in the end pick the country up and despite Britain s politicians who just created a colapse to the UK,Meloni s pro EU values..From Costa Rica🇨🇷🇨🇷
