How modern humans beat the neanderthals | Richard Wrangham and Lex Fridman 

You'd know all this already if you read books

@@hmq9052 Says the one who can’t formulate a sentence.

@@5050YT That is a perfectly formulated sentence.

@@hmq9052 ‘you’d know all this’

@@daveinpublic Correct it. Don't repeat it

Was thinking the same thing 👌

Best podcast on yt

It boggles the mind how.

You expect less from pugilists, generally!

It's just that Lex is such a boring talker. His monotonous voice zones me out.

no longer does evolution control human behavior. human culture does

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thats a question worth of a paper

Or, as the chicken & the egg goes, did bears develop a more robust body due to more aggressive mentalities. My guess would be this

Chimpanzees can rip each other apart with their bare hands and are notorious infighters

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Joe Rogan thinks he is smart. 😂

@@Allworldsk1 he offers his perspective … we listen. he says he’s an idiot 10 times a show

@@Allworldsk1 no he doesn’t he repeatedly says he isn’t. He’s still managed to help educate countless people.

You know you've made it as s podcaster when you're used by government officials

Haha - same 👍🏼

Very fascinating. And really makes you contemplate a lot about our history.

For real. It ended on a fascinating tidbit.

The “theory” of evolution is one of the most unscientifically sound debacles ever entertained by men. Darwin himself said that his theory could not hold true if concurring evidence of transitional forms was not found. The fossil record shows no transitional forms supporting his theory. Here again, the hypocrisy of liberal unbelievers is evident in that Darwin was clearly a racist and included the term “favored races” in his book. There is much more evidence supporting a worldwide flood, including the main process for fossilization, which is “fossilization through the gradual settling of sediment in water.

If you want to study the true history of mankind, start with the fossil record of human giants. There are thousands of remains of these all over the earth. They prove the Genesis account in the Bible, (mainly Genesis 6:4), which is why governments, the jesuits, and the Smithsonian Institute have made great strides in hiding, suppressing, and destroying this evidence. Your not doing humanity any favors by speculating upon a bad theory that categorically denies the truth contained in God’s Word. BTW, it is the oldest writing in antiquity and was verified again by the finding of the Dead Sea scrolls.

@@godslittleman5451 bedommit

oh, the irony

What are you doing to research your own questions?

Definitely not as intelligent as they bolster!!!!!!

He mentioned it in another clip and alluded that the females were likely captured and let’s say had a one sided relationship. I think he mentioned it could’ve been two sided too

@@xXxXLoneWolf103XxXx and then theres the theory on that's why we have minimal body hair. Because women would mate with less hairy men due to inbreeding of neanderthal/human. No evidence to suggest this but I heard some guy say it and found it interesting. Also that since childhood we have stories of being afraid of the dark/boogyman, mainly because that's when Neanderthals used to grab us. Most of it has been debunked and this guy isn't a scientist, however you might find it interesting, I know I did :) m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mZbmywzGAVs.html Predation Theory

Look up nikolai valuev. Boxer. Tell me hes not from the stock of neanderthals haha

@@Ryan-eu3kp Danny Vendramini. I'm still to be convinced he is wrong.

So true

On your own though you're one of the worst

Until we wipe ourselves out🤣

Full podcast has been out for a long while now.

Or maybe read one of the hundreds of books on this subject! Just a thought

Ever?

@@sda3082 I did not stutter did I?

Guy is wrong and a beta lol

teamwork with teeth.

@@Grayto neanderthals didnt have teeth?

A single anthropology class wouldn't give you the full scope there are specific courses dedicated to conflict

as opposed to just growing a bigger skull to accomodate a larger brain or bigger jaw muscles? all these theories are just guesses. nobody knows why sapiens brains got bigger than other homo species or great apes for that matter.

Human brains have become smaller in the last 10,000 to 20,000 years.

Sure. If you're an unread dunce, everything seems amazing

@@hmq9052 Tell me about your contributions to Anthropology....

@@slapshot1x I've read hundreds of books on anthropology either directly or indirectly through literature, fiction and non fiction, or essays on the human condition. I'm not sure why I singled you out for criticism. What you said was perfectly reasonable. Accept my apologies.

We would all evolve to having micro penises because of it

Definitly physicily weak and fragile.

@@Alexander-ii7wy You might have a point. I guess I'll redouble my efforts to introduce my oversized trouser trout to as many women as I can. I'll use the fact that men in the future will have micro penises so they better get a big one while the getting is good.

@@randomdude7345 not weak because we have easier access to food

@@jasperhenderson3002 food is one thing, but physical exercise is key.

don't think so. there should be a selection criteria for bigger brain size too. in our ancestor's case bigger brains meant higher survival rates, however for a domesticated animal's case it does not matter if it is smarter or not. unless you introduce that to your experiment as an "artifical selection"

@@mzyil Damn. I was about to cook meals for my dog all summer then put him in a suit, and schedule a job interview for him so he can work and I can quit my job

Dogs are actually significantly less smarter then Wolfs because they no longer need to be smart to surivive. Becoming domesticated and understanding Humans emotions and vocals isn't the same as intelligence. Domesticated animals are less smart then their wild cousins.

Also would destroy jaw strength over the generations

we already do control magnetics which is what gravity is , the problem we face is not the knowledge but the resources to test and implement.

Isn't aviation in general a form of taming or controlling gravity?

@@barryallen871 yeah if you choose to look at it that way, really its controlled gliding and using engines to reach and maintain altitude for quicker trips. don't know how much gravity control that maintains, but its an interesting topic. Gravity in its entirety is magnetics, look at a magnetic train that propels itself via magnetism, that's more anti gravity than a plane, but one could argue its only controlling magnetism and not gravity.

I don't think it's that important

It wouldn't be that hard to comprehend how to tame - for example - oh a burning branch from a bush fire, oh I can carry it and create more. I don't think its that amazing.

What if they didnt live in cold areas? Not like that had freezers lol and Tesla said he thought he was being sent thoughts from a different universe. The first humans might have just had the intuition to do eventually

@@thedonofthsht76-58 the templars were called templars because they thought the body were temples. 90% of the Haiti population try to go under demonic possession. Demonology is under the rug shit in the same pool as black magic that nobody wants to give attention too, especially In the university settings.

@@jaboris2536 huh I'll have to look that up.

Ummmm no… most likely a Forrest fire and some animals got burned in the process and it smelled good.

@@SerPapus - You have obviously never been around Forrest fires lol. Ain’t no slow roasted animals in a Forrest fire 🤣

Maybe a dolphin or killer whale would be intelligent enough. I don’t think you should use fire

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put down the weed

I hypothesize primates might be able to learn.

@@king1k463 how did you know 😂

Exactly 💯

Yes true. You have to be a great investigative researcher into your interviewee's books and subject matter. Lex is a very intelligent man. He works at MIT as a teacher so he has to have an incredible IQ and some great mind too.

Damn- that’s really sad to think about.

@@RAPEDBYBLACKS What television tropes? Twilight Zone or generic Salem witch trials?

The witch hunt was not fueled by people doing supernatural things, it was fueled by moldy bread making people act crazy.

@@malinko35 Yeah, definitely in part. But I'd say it would be very easy for wild animals and humans to instinctively know that fire is bad. You make fire. Therefore you bad.

While yes I agree some did tinker and think. I honestly think we just did more mating and killing after eating.

Thats wild and scary, imagine you being an homo sapien back then were all you had to defend yourself was a stick and fire against a bigger stronger more ferocious humanoid that also could eat you?

You seek to explain something that never happened.

@@mangomoon huh?

@@user-vp5xf6fm5p There is no evidence it was an 'us vs them interaction' or that 'humans beat neanderthals'. There is, however, evidence of interbreeding between the two species and transfer of knowledge and technologies, such as the use of red ochre in cave art or the process of hand stencilling by blowing red ochre onto a surface partially obscured by a hand. These comments are akin to speculating about the great 'man vs dinosaur' war of prehistory.

@@mangomoon oh, lol, well yeah. But by your first response you might as well have been a young Earth creationist.

I think what you think is well accepted science, not exactly a hot take

So would they....

Middle school teachers deal with these daily.

Or witnessed Antifa lol

No. Humans devolved from etheric beings. Evolution is a fraud. And I'm not even a "Christian"

@@visionaryvalley4347 Your point goes against the great majority of the scientific community. I hope (for the argument's sake) that you have some very good reasons to say that.

@@joseribeiro5894 exactly.

@@visionaryvalley4347 lmao You got me. You re a troller right?

Agreed, and so I prefer a more Masonic interpretation: Existence had not been made devoid of potentials, out of respect to life. Now you might ask: what does that mean exactly... Well, how else do we measure the value of a thing, but by how much it contributes to a better existence? If solving a problem (such as world hunger) is inherently glorious, then problems (such as starvation) are entirely necessary in order to improve upon some aspect of existence: therefore also, for meaning, glory and in this case; survival. If we were born flawless into a perfect world, then "God" would have failed to bestow any significant meaning unto his creations. Like an inventor whose invention failed improve upon anything - a solution for a problem that didn't need solving. I suppose however, that is all rooted in the concept that life is inherently a meaningful thing - and to some degree, that is what separates religion from philosophy. That difference is why some atheists might not adhere to any specified religion and yet hold a sacred reverence for the idea at the innermost core of all religion.

Well, just judging from their lives as small, distant groups, it seems likely that any language was less likely to be similar to other groups, limiting its development and usefulness quite a bit.

We don't know anything about their language, or anything about their brains, except that they were larger than those of Homo Sapiens. All our theories about the Neanderthal are based on our ego: "oh, they had larger brains? Well they were probably smooth and less effective than ours. Yeah their languages were probably shit. We were just such good co-operators". None of these are hard facts. The real explanation is probably far more simple. Homo Sapiens came in more numerous and more aggressive, and we just killed them all due to our small-brained aggression. End of story.

@@ChrisStavros that plus larger brains consume more calories

humanity first, raaaah@@ChrisStavros

WHAT that's wild....real life hunger games

My dogs and cats be plotting on eating me I caught one of the lil ones rubbing bbq sauce and meat tenderizer on my face while I was asleep

@@matrix2297 it was the biggest event of human cannibalism in human history. We are talking millions of people forced into cannibalism. It’s called the holodemer. I know I spelled it wrong. But I have met people from the USSR that have talked about the “mystery meat”. People didn’t question it, they were just happy they had meat.

Look it up

@@joshuablair252 Communism at its finest

well doh..we are talking about 40k years ago, of course there will be speculation

More like everything is bullshit. To think primitive man was less agressive to allow "cooperation" than neanderthals is bad speculation. They keep trying to justify why humans prevailed by downplaying neanderthal's capabilities. "They were agressive dumb and couldn't cooperate" "they couldn't throw very well" Maybe a combibation of factors wiped them out like plagues environment changes etc and not the awsomeness of humans. And maybe humans survived by sheer luck.

@@silviuflorin744 You do realise neanderthals are humans, right?

Most of it is. I started realising that years ago, but you want to keep hearing more. It's strange.

Someone fancies himself and Alpha and got triggered by the big brain dude.

Maybe we introduced a disease(s) they were unable to overcome

@@Dreamin995 yeah it's called social aggression.

by this point weve bred out the wild in the wolf... that one dog would eventually eat raw meat if he was on his own starving one day but he knows that cook tbone with all that juice and spices is GOOOOOD lol... your cocker mix still had a little wolf in her... i used to have a girl cocker they are pretty smart for being on smaller side of dog breeds and she was super loyal to me because i would always sneak her extra food or snacks. my mom and brother took her when they moved and i went off to college and new city for work so it had been 5-6 years since she had seen me and the look of WTF on her face when i came in the house and called her name she could not believe it... then instant zoomies and tail wagging, she would not leave my side for days and spent the night in my bed even tho she loved sleeping on the couch over anything. damn i miss her... RIP ZOE

We actually absorbed them...a lot of the human race today have a tiny bit of neanderthal DNA...yep, we jumped them outta existence

*humped not jumped...my autocorrect is a prude

No we didn't, we had heavenly copulation with them.

@@john12152 there is a calculation that roughly 40% of the neanderthal genome is spread out in our genome, 1% here and there in different population

5:00 He forgot to add environment of both species in equation, namely Neanderthal lived in a harsh environment like today Alaska where was thoroughly planing a base for surviving it couldn't have a lot of offsprings because of scared resources. Homosapiens on the other hand came from a rich environment where a planning wasn't necessary for surviving and could live in a large groups with a lot of offsprings. Those two philosophies how to live are seen even today if compared Africa as a home ground for the Homosapiens and Europe as home ground of Neanderthal. Not to forget Homosapiens come from much warmer Africa probably with some diseases which could be lethal for Neanderthal.

No there isn’t monkeys never turned into monkeys or there would be monkeys still turning into humans you have to be a brain dead to believe this crap!

Our Dna says they are us.

@@potomac2445 communication is about sending and receiving. your job is now to explain me so i can understand what you mean. I'm not him, but let me support his theory. there was a time when the early humans were nearly wiped out. scientist believe only 50ooo survived. at that time the bow was invented too. so there might be that we lost a war till our species has established the most creative psychopaths

@@fabulamcafee pretty sure this fool doesnt believe in evolution.

Crazy how 1 to 2% of European and Asian people have Neanderthal DNA still. There was also interbreeding

Specifically around 9:47

Stuff like believing other people were barbaric or uncivilized happened a lot in ancient societies

Nah oregons just full of degenerates

@@schultemeister6975 In ancient societies? Listen today to anyone (politician and regular folks alike) talk about foreign policy, and all you hear is how every other nation is barbaric and terrible and if only everyone else were like us, the world would be a better more civilized place.

Children figuring out how to manipulate at such early ages should be a pretty good indicator of this. Violence and altruism are just unavoidable byproducts of how we as a species cope with and survive our environments.

Kropotkin was of a mind that we succeeded as a species through cooperation. We as groups will and did sort out ways of overcoming the trials and tribulations of life. Government came later.

Interesting point

I'm gonna call BS on this take. You need look no further than the Holocaust to refute the notion that citizens are detached from their leaders decisions. The German people knew thier neighbors were being herded onto trains in the middle of the night and did nothing. That was not altruism, it was opportunistic violence for the purpose of avoiding personal discomfort.

@@oddmanout7755 thanks for your uninformed opinion. I suppose all of those millions of German men matched off to fight and die because they were corrupt? Have you thought about this at all, or do you prefer to just have strong opinions for no good reason?

Great book

Neanderthals originated from Africa and migrated with humans to Europe and Asia.

@@meritorioustechnate9455 wrong

@@kylekissack4633 You’ve come to be educated. Should we begin with Neanderthal, Denisovans or the unidentified subspecies linked to both?

@@meritorioustechnate9455 I'm confused. Are these people denying the existence of Neanderthals?

Yes, I've seen other experts speak of this exact topic. They all came to same conclusion... it didn't matter. It was inevitable. Cooperation was key. Neanderthals were doomed.

Neanderthal also came from Africa -- the early modern homosapiens that came into contact with neanderthal had been out of Africa for at least tens of thousands of years. The big shift was when we surpassed Neanderthal as the apex primate in the Upper Paleolithic -- all Sapien populations became far more robust and had shared culture that came out of Europe, not Africa, in the Aurignacian.

@Lee Juddy well, as I said, cooperation is the key. And muslims don't seem to get along much better with each other than any other doctrine. What with the whole sunni vs shiite infighting and all. So I'm not sold, not yet. But who knows...

@@dirksharp9876 damn, in half the words, you managed to overrule the original comment. Nicely done! Her comment was hollow and weak, and now exposed.

Your comment seems questionable. You don’t seem to understand that, like modern humans, Neanderthals and Denisovans both evolved from Homo Naledi, which was an African hominid.

Bigger brains doesn't mean smarter brains

Lex has more science based guests, for that sphere of guests Lex’s podcast is superior.

Way better

I'm confused. Isn't he saying that if we ate more raw food our guts would be bigger? So more weight?

@@roboito9130 I think it means that our stomach physically stretches out to accommodate more food. You can stretch your stomach out quite easily when trying to put weight on over a prolonged period of time.

@@roboito9130 Yes, for other primates they need bigger bellies to digest their food. My point was that humans who want to lose weight, should eat food high in volume, but low in calories to get full on lower amount of calories. The diet is called volume eating, lots of info online about it.

Yup. It works. The more raw fruits and vegetables you eat, the less cravings you have, and therefore the more you replace high calorie foods. Also, your body gets a workout just trying to digest raw fruits and vegetables. The only real downside is the farts.

Yeah. I wasn't sold on this idea either.

When everyone's a beta, no one's a beta

When an anthropologist talks about alpha and beta he probably has very different creatures in mind than what we colloquially refer to when we use these terms