How Much CON Would Juggernaut Have? | Baldur's Gate 3 

You're right! That's a perfect passive to give him. Maybe as an effect of his Pact Armor, since he isn't at full power without it most of the time.

@@PanicRolling 😁😁😁

Lol awesome example! Those guys are both tanks for sure.

Yeh in his strongest form he's full-on God-tier. In most other forms, he's still almost there.

So tarrasque

​@djmewtwo6981 worst breaks D&D systems. Most marvel characters do. The only things that start to come close are entities that appear in 3.5's deities and demigods creature sections which have immunity usually to almost everything except a few things so facing them is about finding the weakness and then it's still a hell of a fight. For things that aren't so much raw power it's going to be in the range of divine salient powers and portfolios, this is particularly true for speed based characters. Marvel characters are truly God tier by the standards of D&D, where the stats are now meaningless and the only way to make it work is to create new tiers of abilities (Epic feats, immunities, portfolios, and divine salient powers).

Juggernaught is Immune to everything but psychic damage.

@@TheTerrainWizard I don’t think he would be immune to necrotic damage, poison damage or other things

Yep, definitely a good representative for CON. That dude should've died like 2000 times in those movies.

​@@PanicRollinggiven the first 3 John Wick movies are set in a few days maybe a week he definitely has a 20 con

@@shadowhell8378I think John Wick would have more than 20 Constitution with how inhuman his toughness is.

@@swxqt6826 I think he, deathstroke and batman would be the 20 con with others like captain America and black panther being just above that with the 24 con barbarian's get at level 20. And wolverine, Colossus, Bane and killer croc being above that with around 30 con.

John Wick has plot armor, not high constitution.

As a counter point: she has to maintain Concentration on her emotions at all times, so an argument could be made that she's actually Concentrating on multiple things at once...which is pretty cool. Also it is probably very hard for everyone around her to maintain Concentration as well.

@PanicRolling spells that alter emotional states typically require wisdom saves, although sometimes it calls for Charisma saves. In the episode Car Trouble she even says "you guys are making it really hard for me to concentrate" in response to Cyborg and Gizmo shouting and trying to bump each other off the road. But, it's a great example of her casting Telekinesis on a normal car to keep up with Gizmo in the stolen suped-up T-Car. Raven also doesn't take getting hit well, and often drops her spells when hit. In the new 52 movie universe, it's also shown that prolonged use of her powers drains her, as she collapses after fighting off Trigons demons at the carnival. Though she's a great example of a high wisdom character when you get to it. As an empath who can sense people and their emotions, she's a prime example of a character with very good perception and insight, especially in her comic version. She could sense how many people were in a city on the other side of a lake or river, I forget the details. Even the show version gets insights into Terra's true nature just from an accidental shoulder bump.

Raven doesn't need a lot of constitution to be the best waifu!

​@@PanicRolling That's more Wisdom than Constitution

This is the conclusion I came to while making the video also. They really are similar!

Nope. They roll a CON save and pee it straight into their own mouth for extra energy.

Considering almost no fights last even 10 rounds which would be 1 minute… no. They can pee after the fight.

It'd give a bonus to carry capacity, but changes in size don't effect ability scores themselves in 5e. Enlarge/reduce does give advantage on strength checks and saving throws, but I think it's safe to say he'd already have those benefits, if he has to roll for those things at all.

That's for luring audience.

Based on but not a direct adaptation in a few key areas

That's how the algorithm works bro. Auto transcript, analyze for keywords, test on audiences that enjoy said keywords. The more you know 👍🏻

He's definitely in there!

Wolverine has regeneration, he’d be great for a video about that topic.

Wolverine would make more sense if we were using BG1/2 as you used to get ho Regen from high con.

High or* typo XD

Geralt of Rivia, racial Witcher ability to use a lethal amount of potions, good way to worldbuild healing potions so that they aren't spanned by the thousands by every single civilian and there isn't a massive industry for them similarly, max paine has very high constitution as he can take a lot of punishment and is immune to painkiller overdoses

Kind of like Ryuukou Yanagi from Baki- a man who has developed a poison tolerance to the extent where he can absorb them into his hand to use at will, but no more resistance to physical damage than any other trained fighter in the Bakiverse.

so like, these would be situational con boost in cases of poison and toxins. This would fit well wit a pathfiner1e and dnd3.5 systems

Yet science shows that if the stick of dynamite is accurate, we can easily outlaw the sun in damage by orders of magnitude. Or if Wall Of Stone is accurate, you could put a mountain on the surface of the sun for days on end, and it won’t be destroyed.

I did think about Constantine, but I recently used him as an example in another video (my Sorcerer guide I believe?) Excellent example! Also he's awesome.

It's impossible for him to get stiff, because that implies a hindrance of movement. Maybe this is why he's always so mad?

Have you ever seen a bodybuilder try to touch his own back? With all that muscle he probably could barely move his neck even without the obstruction of the helmet lol

Yeh I know but let me counter that with this: he's awesome and I love talking about him. I'm a fraud, sure. But you can't say I have bad taste.

@@PanicRolling Gurararara!

New World Record!

Pickle Rick solos BG3

Ok I’m ten minutes into this video and I just want to say that I’m constantly laughing, smiling, and genuinely having a great time watching this it’s super interesting and fun

Hey, I'm glad you enjoyed it! I'd actually never heard of Mitten Squad before your comment, but I went and looked him up. Now I'm sad because he died before I found out about him.

I think it's a great idea for a fun game. I think the Suicide Squad game could've been really cool if it hadn't been a looter shooter... The idea of fighting against the Justice League or their villains as bosses...sounds amazing to me.

Hey thanks! I love them too haha 😄 😆

@@PanicRolling that typo I’ll keep it lol

I think it's perfect honestly. Juggernaut has just the right set of powers to be a tough-but-fair raid boss fight if it was tuned properly. Force field could periodically negate ranged attacks on a cooldown, his Psychic weakness could be a boss mechanic. Maybe an NPC tells you about an item that would debuff him Psychically after you get his health low enough (helmet comes off at 30% or so) I'd play it.

Caliban! He's a great example.

He's arguably the poster boy for low CON! I'm going to put him in the INT video for sure, to make up for leaving him out of this one.

@@PanicRolling Nice, thanks for the videos. Loving them so far.

I did think about Stallion as well! There are actually a pretty good number of ways to build Juggernaut in BG3, and I'm working on a video now to show off a few of them! Awesome suggestion!

I'm thinking Brainiac or Lex Luther for Int

@@sinned6us I was think Mr Fantastic perhaps for Int, but i agree that Brainiac is probably the best one. Lex is smart., but Int 20 smart? I have my doubts Cha, well, there's so many charismatic characters. I think Gambit actually has low level charismas as part of his powerset. Wis is going to be the hard one. There's really no hero i'd qualify as 'wise', so i'll be looking forward to see who you pick

@@StevenJQuinlan Oh, Lex is at least 20 INT.

@@Lordmewtwo151 Oh probably, but is he smarter than Brainiac? my vote is no

@@StevenJQuinlan Fair enough.

Those stat buff items are so outrageously powerful lol. You can enable a whole build with just one of them.

@@PanicRolling it’s ridiculous. Had my dark urge sorcerer feeling like the final boss of the game

Yeh I didn't actually talk about any low CON characters. But they do both have massive penalties to their CON at the end of their lives. You're 100% right though, lol! I admit they were cop out answers, just so I could talk about 2 badasses I like 😁

It's a sick combo! I couldn't resist haha!

Haha yeh the tiny doses of poison gave him a huge CON buff.

So just use the Time Stone to age him to death? Lol

@@Paradox-es3bl Yup. He is also susceptible to teleportation magic. He may not be able to be stopped while moving but he can still be ported to somewhere else.

Sounds like an argument for Psychic damage to me. If you're being forced to feel the pain of a nuke, your brain is likely going to be broken afterwards. This sounds awesome and also horrifying.

That's true. Being a Sith Lord is dangerous business...there isn't room for very many of them at a time...

Defeat him at what? "Who can get teleported 500 feet into the air and fall to their demise the fastest?"

@@PanicRolling Greatswords excell at rapidly attacking and defending everything around the user. So unless Nightcrawler can teleport into solid matter somehow, the best he could do is a suicide play where both combatants die. Because he is using fucking rapiers, which are really, really bad against real combat weapons.

He can teleport at will...so his choice of weapons doesn't really matter in a RL scenario. You would be dead before you even knew he was coming. He could be holding 3 #2 Pencils and this would still be true. No normal human is beating Nightcrawler in a fight, unless there are other circumstances at play.

@@PanicRolling can he teleport into solid matter?

I think to be fair though, that could (in DnD terms) be represented by a high level and feats giving him just a ton of HP, along with boosts from Haki. I think the larger point of him being incredibly sick giving him penalties makes sense. It may be more accurate to (in DnD terms) think of it as stacks of exhaustion or a curse which have artificially lowered his constitution. Either way, Whitebeard is the Strongest Man and an absolute role model.

When it comes to spells or abilities using regeneration, you add your constitution modifier in addition to what the spell or ability heals, so Con is directly tied into regeneration

I keep hearing about that series. I need to check it out.

Heheheh

Wow thanks for this huge feast of info! I think that's a great way to fit Nightcrawler's porting into actual gameplay! In the comics, his mobility is so busted that only Speedsters or other teleporters have a hope of keeping up, so the numbers would probably be nuts as a 1:1 AC bonus. But I've said it before and I will say it plenty more times...putting limits on characters is perfectly fine, if that's what it takes to tell a better story or have more fun in a game. Being able to teleport hundreds of miles in a matter of seconds is a bit hard to balance around.

Lumpy Space Princess! 😄😄😄 You wanna talk about a dude with more than 20 CON? Finn the Human. He's a friggin tank.

@@PanicRolling I mean they have negative constitution

Yeh most of them work much better if you stat them as raid bosses. It's fine for Superman to be so powerful that it would take an entire team to even have a chance... because that's how it would go.

I'm just not sure I can really agree. Because DnD is incredibly abstract, you can't granularly define things like you'd want to sure, but to say it's impossible to do so is a bit of a stretch to me. Like, DC 30 is the highest any DC can go. Throwing a moon? DC 30 provided you have 30 Strength. And the highest amount of damage you can take at once is 24d10 for an average of 132. This is said by the DMG's "improvising damage" table as representing being thrown into a planar vortex or getting chomped on by a godlike creature the size of the moon. It is the amount of damage the core of a star deals, according to the Solar Dragon's Lair Actions. What this means is: If you can consistently meet DC 30s, get a 30 Strength, and tank a hit that deals 132 damage you are on your way to becoming supes. If you can do an attack that deals 133 damage or more, you are outdamaging the sun and on your way to becoming like supes. Can you do this without breaking the rules of DnD 5e? *Yes* Step 1 - Take aasimar for your lineage, because kryptonians are nothing if not space angels. Step 2- Take 10 levels in bard, 2 level in paladin and 8 levels in warlock. Your two subclasses will be Dance Bard and Celestial Warlock. This gives you an unarmored AC of 10+Dex+Cha, so most likely 20 AC, and lets you use a d10 for your unarmed strike damage rolls instead of a flat 1, and gets you Expertise in Athletics. 2 levels in paladin for Divine Smite. 8 levels in Celestial Warlock to heal yourself as a bonus action (rejuvinate from the sun), get a cold breath (cone of cold), lazer eyes (eldritch blast or sacred flame, take your pick) and X-Ray Vision (Ghostly Gaze invocation). If you're cool with re flavoring a maul as your punches instead, also take pact of the blade for the eldritch smite invocation (flavoring your pact as drawing power from the Sun like a Warlock does their patron). Step 3 - Get manuals of gainful exercise, or blessings of gainful exercise, until you have 30 strength. Do the same with Manuals of Bodily Health, or blessings of health, until you have 30 con. Use your ABIs to max out Charisma and Dex. Get a blessing of flight for a flying speed equal to your walking speed (taking from the boots of flying, as blessings mimic magic items), and if your lucky a blessing of X-Ray vision so Ghostly Gaze becomes unnecessary and you can replace warlock with Divine Soul Sorcerer. Step 4 - Now you're level 20, you can start picking up epic boons. The Boon of Fortitude gives you +40 health, add that on top of the tough feat for another +40. The Boon of Invincibility lets you reduce damage you take from something to 0 once per short rest. The Boon of Recovery lets you recover half your health as a bonus action once per short rest (for a sun bath in the middle of a fight). The Boon of Resilience for permanent resistance to nonmagical physical damage (because magic hurts him like everyone else). The Boon of Speed to increase your base speed to 60 ft., and to dash or disengage as a bonus action once per short rest. Finally the Boon of Truesight to have a lesser version of your X-Ray vision always active. The Boon of Quick Casting (unless you're a sorcerer) to cast Haste as a bonus action. Step 5 - Cast Haste on yourself to double your speed again, get a free action every turn, a +2 bonus to AC and advantage on Dexterity saving throws. This allows you to consistently travel (in DnD terms) at the same speed as Quicklings, the fastest land creatures in the game. All told this gets you: A 22 base AC (almost as high as Adamantine, the toughest substance in the DnD multiverse and nearly indestructable) A HP pool of around 240, the ability to heal 120 as a bonus action then up to 5d6 as a bonus action on your next turn then 3d6, resistance to most mundane attacks, resistance to radiant damage (which is what the sun does), the ability to autocast cure wounds at 4th level twice per short rest and the ability to reduce all the damage you take from one source to 0. All this allows you to survive 48 seconds *in the heart of a star* A +22 to Athletics checks, almost guaranteeing your success on DC 30 checks. The ability to do ~114 average damage on a single attack if you crit, almost outdamaging the core of a star, with the ability to at most do over 60 more damage than it! And this is all using the current rules! This September we'll be getting an updated PHB with revised player options that allow you to get even closer to supes and where getting epic boons is considered the norm, not a rule hidden in the DMG. Budget supes is more than doable in current 5e, and almost insulting easy in the revised rules.

@@The_Crimson_Witch I don't know about that, comic book characters are just broken. Like, superman moving at or faster than the speed of light is already enough to strain any kind of physical consistency and does not translate to D&D, no matter how abstract D&D is. It's almost like, comic book characters like Flash and Superman have reverse plot armor because if we took their powers at face value, there really should not be anything comprehensible to us that threatens them. Part of it is continuation. Most adventures never exceed level 20 so there is no opportunity to continually scale upwards. With comics and anime, stories have been so long running you have characters trivially tanking energy outputs exceeding that of an entire galaxy.

@lucidjar Most characters don't, but they *can* advance infinitely after level 20 via Epic Boons. And while yes, you cannot directly translate supes speed into DnD, in DnD the average person's top speed is 6 miles per hour- which is insanely slow. You cannot really translate anyone's speed into DnD because of how it handles movement. But you can translate being the fastest thing in the dnd multiverse. My point wasn't neccisarily that these characters can be directly translated and more that characters of their calibre are far from impossible in DnD. Do you have 133 hit points? You can survive one instance of an impossible amount of damage. Can you do 133 damage or more in a single blow? You are dealing an impossible amount of damage. Can you directly translate Superman or the Flash? No. Just like the TV Shows don't, and the movies don't, different scopes for different mediums. But you can make budget Flash and budget Supes, like you can make budget Batman and budget Nightcrawler, which OP claimed to be impossible. I do not agree.

@@The_Crimson_Witch I just don't think it can be done in a logically consistent manner when considering all other ways of dealing the average amount of hit points say, a typical level 20 barbarian might have and what level of terrain damage that would do. DnD is just not a setting capable of scaling to or consistently translating the top tier power levels of comic book heroes. And this has only gotten worse since third edition in the name of balance (similar happened with pathfinder 2e). Even with epic boons, there's nothing comparable to being able to produce destructive force capable of taking out solar systems (which is still several orders of magnitude outside of what the heavy hitters of comics get up to).

Yeh translating the characters directly into any game is tough, because they HAVE to have a chance of failure...otherwise you don't have a story to tell.

Am I thanking you and telling you I appreciate it? Yes.

The age old question: What does 1 hitpoint worth of damage look like?

@@PanicRolling Difficult do say. Depends on what in DnD tends to have 1 hitpoint.

@@LoboGuara5bruxaria A cat and a spider have 1 hit point. The idea being if you're really trying to kill both, you could do so with your bare hands in a matter of seconds. The DMG actually has a section for improvising damage that's incredibly telling about how damage scales in DnD. The highest amount of damage a character should ever possibly receive at one time is 24d10 for an average of 132 damage. The examples given by the DMG for what 24d10 represents is "Tumbling into a vortex of fire on the Elemental Plane of Fire, being crushed in the jaws of a godlike creature or a moon-sized monster" So, if a character can take 132 damage and survive, they can survive being atomized by a planar vortex and *eaten by the fucking moon* This is reinforced by the Solar dragon, which lairs itself inside of stars. Any character entering the star or starting their turn inside it takes 24d10 radiant damage. So a level 5 bear totem barbarian with tough from their background and an 18 con could survive a single turn inside a star. Which on the one hand doesn't seem all that impressive because you still die on your next turn anyway, but on the other hand you're literally only a quarter through the game and already a star wouldn't instantly kill you. Whenever you're comparing a massive amount of damage taken that seems impossible for anything to survive (like skinny dipping in the sun), assume it deals 132 damage- either instantly or per round if it's a constant effect. This is a good measure of how many hit points you'd need to pull of the same feat. a 10th level bear totem barbarian with the tough feat and 20 con could survive 12 seconds in the heart of a star, only dying on the 3rd round. Then you add in things like epic boons, and you'll see just how much a typical dnd character can survive. People tell me most marvel characters break the DnD scaling method, but I simply cannot agree. Most characters are incredibly scalable when you know being in the center of an exploding planet is roughly 24d10 damage. EDIT: Y'know this makes me realise, a 15th level swords bard, 3 levels devotion paladin and 2 levels warlock using true strike (this is using the upcoming September rules updates and all the information we currently have on it as of writing this) could if they crit deal more damage than a star on a single attack. Let me explain We're using a d8 one handed weapon (presumably a longsword, but trident, warpick, or warhammer all work), and the number of dice we're rolling gets doubled on a crit, so that's 2d8 from the weapon. We have the dueling fighting style, so that's +2 damage. We use the revised truestrike, which lets us use charisma instead of strength with out longsword, and adds an extra 3d6 radiant damage to the hit once we reach 17th level, so doubled to 6d6. We use the revised Agonizing Blast on Truestrike, allowing us to add our charisma modifier twice to the damage rolls for a +10 to damage. We expend a bardic die to do a flourish attack (any of them will do) to add a d12, doubled to 2d12. We then cast Divine Smite at 9th level due to paladin being a halfcaster making us have the slots of a 17th level full caster despite only having 15 levels of bard (upcasting it this high because the cap on the number of d8s divine smite can have has been lifted), giving us 10d8 extra radiant damage doubled to 20d8. Giving us an *average* damage roll of 145 radiant damage. EDIT 2: I forgot completely about Holy Weapon! You could actually do this at 16th level (11 bard, 3 paladin, 2 warlock) if you have holy weapon already cast.

Keep going

Yeh I know, it was a cop out lol! But...I regret nothing. Xavier is a great example though! Would've fit great with Juggernaut too...pretty dumb that I didn't do that lol.

@@PanicRolling Not dumb, you just reaaaaaally wanted to talk about Whitebeard and Vader. Who can blame you? They're both GOATs. Also got me thinking about creative ways to apply CON penalties, mechanically showing mortal degradation.

I’d have watched one piece but I’d definitely agree Vader is low CON or at the very least Vader has a lower CON than Anakin Skywalker. Not that he’s below 10 CON he’s just below his prime or below his potential prime

Tyvm. Should be fixed now!

Juggernaut cannot intentionally lift Mjolnir by force, but I'm not sure there's ever been an instance where he charged into it, and I'm honestly not sure how it would go. I'd bet Mjolnir would win, but I'd understand anyone who thought the opposite.

12:54 Juggs stop mjol

Oooooo Mr. Glass! Good call.

@@PanicRolling Yeah man! Keep up the good work!

Definitely another candidate for "Massive CON penalties" like Whitebeard and Vader. All Might is missing a huge chunk of his internal organs and is constantly coughing up blood, so you're 100% correct!

These are not supposed to be possible builds. These videos are just a thought exercise to see what it would take. Realistically, you'd have to break soooo many rules to make Juggernaut unless you dumb him way down. You're 100% correct though. It doesn't make actual sense as a build. It's more like a Frankenstein's monster of 4 things stapled together. 😁

@@PanicRolling Hm. But you DID say that you would make him a high CR monster if you were going to make him, right? So... why not make videos like that? Where you aren't trying to make a PC, but just make these characters within the mechanics of 5E. I would enjoy seeing Superman, Spider-Man, Juggernaut, Thor, Wolverine, Batman, Wonder Woman, etc all statted out like a monster entry. Just an idea.