In other parts of the world, gas stations are closing as the adoption of EV's leads to fewer drivers buying gasoline/petrol. In Australia we are only a few years behind. Where will you buy petrol in 5 years time?
There are definitely more modern stations built and rebranded where I live. They are mini supermarkets and restaurants now to compliment the fuel sales. I agree that ATM'S are in decline, but that too has been forced upon us not because of a lack of demand. Bank branches are going also and service is atrocious now.
i live 45 minutes from sydney CBD. yet, guess what we have driving past every day? made at least 30 trips today alone... a WATER TRUCK. because 1km up the road, the mains water ends and everyones on TANKS. let me reiterate that one... 45 minutes from sydney CBD, yet we rely on a TRUCK to cart WATER as we cant even get a few PIPES in the ground. and you think we are going to go full EV in a mere 6 years, when they havent even upgraded the WATER in 70 years? we still have DIRT ROADS here. a so called "developed country" and we have TANK WATER. not in some remote place out in woop woop, but close to major centers. depending which road you take, theres no POWER LINES another 10km up the road. all "off grid"... always have been... dont see any of them relying on EV anytime soon. most of them are doing everything they can to NOT use electricity at all. then theres the little bit about zero phone reception, no phone lines, or NBN or ways to "connect" or, more importantly, CONTACT EMERGENCY SERVICES. we did have phone lines... thanks to the NBN, theyre gone. scrapped, useless. not sure how our water truck will feel when he has to take a 20km detour to the closest service station to recharge on every second load of water.... and spend several hours waiting for it to recharge. as it is, he gets to fill up with diesel once a day... and as it hasnt rained for the last month, he is flat out and almost about to get a second truck and driver to service the area. not sure how the residents will feel, when they cant get water delivered, or the roads clogged up with dead electric trucks that failed to make it back on a single charge, and have no facilites to be recharged. once again, in case you missed the vital point... we are 45 minutes from sydney CBD, with no mains water, no mains electricity, and no phone signal, on dirt roads. try and guess where we are...
2nd hand cars are the majority of vehicals on australian roads are 2nd hand, in fact 99% of vehicles are 2nd hand Vehicles up to five years of age account for the largest proportion of the national fleet (30.5 per cent), followed by vehicles aged 6-10 years (27.2), 11-15 years (21.2) and 16 years and over (21.0). The fact petrol cars are still for sale being sold new and the fact electric cars have batteries that only last 5 years destroys the 2nd hand market for electrics. We all need push bikes if ya worried about the health of the country
Petroleum price will drop to the price of water to keep the cashflow. Tax will be removed first from petrol as its value falls, and mileage tax added to very heavy EVs, BVs. Road damage is very real. Petroleum, bitumen roads. ICE vehicles owners with light weight vehicles will complain bitterly. Late adopters, not so wealthy people still vote.
Forever, all sulphur 98% comes from oil refining, and we use it in loads of things, petrol is just one of the things we get from the oil refinement process.
Australia imports all its petroleum. And 1million new vehicles each year. 20million Australian vehicles means 20years. Norway is a small country and small mileage. Petroleum for road building and maintenance and petrochemical industry and remaining ICE vehicles will have an impact. Electric farm vehicles are not part of Australia's life. Farmers use equipment most of the year. Scraped vehicles will mean cheap spares for years. Fossil fuels are high density energy sources. It is hard to judge 20years or 5years. Australia has been the dumping ground for expensive ICE vehicles and many new, it will be hard to let them go. Retirees have looked forward to a little classic luxury. Still you make a lot of sense.
@@chrish4469 Australia imports about 90% of its liquid fuel and has just two operational oil refineries, and those run only thanks to federal government support. The industry has almost shut down because buying refined products abroad and importing them just in time for consumption is more economical.18 Mar 2024 So yes, 2 operating refineries now.
I think 7,000 remaining petrol stations is very short of the mark, my city of Bathurst has at least 12 petrol stations and there are a lot of cities of similar sizes that may have more, let alone all the large capital cities in Australia
In Brisbane, I can name 6 new 7 eleven's built, Caltex is doing revamps on many of their sites. The oil companies know something we don't. Australia is not an EV friendly market, thousands of last years Chinese EV's are still sitting in storage yards around the country. There was no bailout at Armaguard, I think Lindsay Fox just wanted a Government handout, but they couldn't agree on the conditions.
Great video, as someone who rides an electric bike around the city because it is fun, healthy, and most importantly environmentally friendly, I look forward to petrol being phased out. It does beg the question how we power these new vehicles in a sustainable and reliable way. Currently, I car my bike at work which has solar panels so I feel very confident that my impact on the environment from transportation is as low as possible for me. I have subscribed!
Norway actually taxes the companies mining it's resources, unlike the ALNLP Human Resources Management Group. Also, there are SO many more products derived from crude oil. Paints, plastics, almost all pharmaceuticals are synthesised from crude oil. It's all about who gets access to the resource, and way down the bottom of that list are petrol-head bogans. It's not so much a problem of dwindling resources as it is growing energy demand from a tiny percentage of the world's population. Your Tesla is responsible for so much more pollution and misery than my 1982 Honda. No Congolese children were harmed in the making of my CX500.
Yeah, comparing Australia to Norway, and using the wildly more efficient modern service station to trend down petrol distribution, gives a false picture. Have you done the maths for generating electricity to replace fuel? For Tasmania, we would need 4 extra dams the size of the Gordon River one, and we are a smaller state.
Interesting topic, i've been wondering the same thing for a while, i imagine that their will come a tipping point, which will catch a lot of people by surprise, when the price of fuel suddenly starts to go up by a lot. i can imagine that governments will get caught out also, and may have to subsidise for essential services that are having trouble converting, it'll create havoc for those who haven't made the switch to electric
Re the cash analogy, well it was 1974 when the cashless Bankcard was made available in Oz , and it was popular even back then, yet cash survives to this day, over 50 years later. Also the banks are heavily lobbying for dropping cash for commercial / profit reasons. A not insignificant number of people will always prefer cash so I wouldn't bet on an extinction. I drive an EV but there are people who don't like them and many situations where EVs are not the best solution and may well never be. We are so far behind in charging and power infrastructure to cover everyone using EVs that it will take decades to catch up if we start now, and we're not. Hybrids are popular and getting more so, and those sold today are likely to be in the national fleet for at least 15-20 years. They use less fuel but they still need fuel, so we are probably 25 years away from any mass reduction in petrol/gas stations. Their may be a rationalisation of some degree, but not a wipe out. And even after then I suspect they will still be around, you may just have to drive a bit to find one.
You might be right, but the report I mentioned says we will go from 7000 gas stations to 1400 by 2030. Petrol will still be available but hard to get and expensive. Like an EV trying to find a charger just a few years ago.
😂😂😂 there's a brand new sevice station that literally opened After being built brand new this week down the road what a crock of ship it's literally double the price America paysfor a charging station at $400000 for one are you going to be paying for them 🤔 im not
In the 1960s in WA the petrol stations would be rostered for evenings and weekends. Not sure about the other states. I imagine it is only a matter of time until we get back to the same situation. And yes, I own a BYD Dolphin. It is a great car.
The petrol station closure trend from 2020 to 2024 would be more meaningful than from 1980 to 2024. The phase out of cash suits the banking industry as they make more money out of electronic transfers. The fossil fuel industry and ICE car industry are fighting hard to slow down EV adoption and imo Australia will be one of their last bastions.
Two new fuel stations have opened in the last year within 20km of where I am right now. Another existing fuel station just a couple of km away has replaced their tanks at great expense. Seems at odds with what you are suggesting.
If I had a petrol car I would be suffering range anxiety right now. When it comes to obtaining petrol and diesel, Australia is on the end of a long supply line which may easily be compromised. Witness, for example, one prominent US senator calling for the bombing of the Iranian oil fields and refineries. And we are running into peak cheap oil, the US frackers are rapidly running down their tier one fields, and they will be increasingly working harder and harder to squeeze oil out of their two and three tiers. I remember the oil crisis in the 1970s when fuel supplies to Australia dried up and, even if the foreign shipping owners continue to supply Australia, the fuel will be priced high on a demand exceeding supply basis. Any two car house which can charge at home should at least have one EV for transport security and good used EVs can now be bought for $25K. It should be noted the shipping companies are building the new ships with alternative fuel capacity.
You tube just served up your video, and I watched it in its entirety with an open mind. But I do see some significant greater societal issues that would arise from the future that you predicted. Currently, I own outright, and drive, a 33 year old diesel Hilux dual cab ute. It is well maintained and in perfectly good road worthy condition. I only drive about 5000km a year. I use it for a mix of family and work trips. As a film industry and commercial photography professional, I routinely rely on the carrying capacity of the ute to carry what could only be described as a significant weight and volume of heavy duty professional photographic and lighting equipment. My annual costs for holding and driving this ute, besides, diesel, rego and insurance are less than $1000 a year. Because it is the type of vehicle that an everyday person can very easily maintain and repair. And I mean easily repair every aspect. Engine, brakes, transmission, tyres, you name it. I simply can't afford to take on a car loan for an EV. I can't even afford to pay the loan on a very second hand ICE vehicle. Be that a passenger car, a van or a light commercial truck. Even if I could afford a loan for a new EV, there is no offering in the market place that could do what I need my vehicle to do. So if in a few years as you predict, I won't be able to afford to buy diesel at a price that would make it economically viable for me to drive to any of my work bookings. I would have to hire a small EV truck from budget or thrifty to carry my gear to do the day's work. Do thrifty and budget even have an EV truck for hire? And as I mostly already do, I'd have to do all grocery shopping and school trips by bicycle. Which i enjoy doing. so I'd be happy to continue to do. But it would still be economically unviable for me to continue to work in my profession of over 30 years. Not only will I, but huge swathes of the film, tv and creative industries will No longer economically viable to continue. Not to mention huge swathes of all industries that rely upon, or have to move goods with large, medium and small commercial vehicles. The implications of this will likely mean massive increases in the cost of all goods and services. On a scale that will make the recent years of inflation look like a tea party. Commercial vehicles are purchased and financed on a financial plan that takes a decade or two, to fully extract sufficient value from a piece of plant, across a wide spectrum of 1st, second and third hand owners. If the market for most every ICE commercial vehicle collapsed in a few short years,you'd surely see wholesale collapse of businesses and industry. In turn, employment and social collapse. At the very least an enormous upheaval, and many years of a very uncomfortable social and economic environment, for everyone. Including EV drivers.
Thank you for your in depth and considered reply. Yes, it is an issue. The challenge for everyone will be when we get to the last 10-20% of motorists still using petrol. Most gas stations will have closed. The production and distribution of petrol will be uneconomic. Fuel prices will rise and motorists will have to drive long distances to get fuel. I don’t have a solution, but thanks for raising the issue
Ahhhhh, EVs don't account for diddly squat car sales in Aus, and even if you were to rocket sales of new EVs to a magical 100% here on out, by 2030 there'd still be more ICE cars on the road.
Completely agree. EV sales are now 10% of all new car sales and are expected to be 50% by 2030. However the report I mentioned says that gas stations will reduce by 80% by 2030. So you might have to drive a distance to get petrol, like the hassle to get an EV charge in the early days
Gday Brian, yes, however after about 2030 expect to drive a long distance and pay a high price for fuel. Finding a gas station will become like finding an EV charger in the early days
@@stevestesla9120 If I compare Norway to Switzerland the latter has endless money to go electric and there is a charger just about on any corner. Despite a huge uptake on EV's their service stations remain very competitive convenient stores usually open 7 days and till late at night so hardly any decline of them over there. Australia bashes the farmers and wonders why the society has become so dependent on foreign forces.
The predictions you portray are quite fanciful. Here in Ballarat, "two" new petrol stations opened in the last 18mths. Poor business decision?? I doubt it.. Long term planning. Ohh,,, What vehicle was sold the most in Australia in 2023?? Ford Ranger.
@@stevestesla9120 "so why will it not happen here?" Because Australia is kinda unique. In what world does a Ford Ranger make rational sense for average Joe? Yet it is consistently top of the sales. It'll take 15 years or so after *all* new vehicle sales are EV's to approach phasing out petrol completely. So that's easily 20 years away, most likely 30. Servo's will still exist to take our money - perhaps in fewer numbers. I have at least 4 servos in easy walking distance of my home - so 75% could close without impacting the distance I need to drive to get fuel. And that's the reality for most 'burbs' I think. I don't believe petrol will rocket in cost either - unless it's artificially inflated by the government to force us over to electrification. We'll still need jet fuel, bitumen, cosmetics, tyres etc etc, so the oil will continue to be refined. If (when) demand for petrol drops, unless oil refining can find another mix, we'll essentially have petrol as a waste by-product - they'll be giving it away
@@davelloyd-the average Joe wants a decent vehicle for work in the week, can load with all the gear for the weekend, and tow a caravan for the school holidays, oh and with the addition of a long range tank, do 900kms on just 5 minutes of refuelling. So yeah, a big ranger makes perfect sense.
@@stevestesla9120 It is not a question of Australia being behind the rest of the world. We are smart enough to know all the limitations of e.v.'s (& their extreme fire risks). They don't suit the majority of people's needs. Without generous gov't subsidies around the world, they wouldn't be selling as many either! E.v's have a loooooong way to go yet!
@@sysmith9910 ICE vehicles have much higher fire risks. And EV's they suit the majority of peoples needs(city dwellers). it will be a slow roll out like any major adoption. The change to LFP batteries and ever growing second hand EV market will push people towards buying an EV due to savings as the cost of living increases.
Fun fact. Nuclear electricity is vulnerable to no cash flow when the sunshines when customers rooftop PV and batteries are working. When BVs oversized battery is part of the grid 23hrs every day, selfplug-in V2G trickle currents all day long. It will be cheaper to add transmission capacity from Sunbelt states in the USA or southern areas. Turning nuclear on and off is a cash flow disaster. But you know this.
@stevestesla9120 I have an old friend who is promoting nuclear electricity to save Australia. And travel overseas and has been on national TV, and youtube. My construction career in fossil fueled power stations, substations, transmission lines, and the faulty logic he and others speak about ignores the fundamental fragility and extreme expense of the national electrical grid. He annoyed me years ago and is doing it again. We both have grandchildren, but he just doesn't understand the economic impact of his long-held dream. So, I post my thoughts and understanding of Australia's situation. Happy if I have helped.
Petrol, has not increased in price anywhere near as much, as the price per Kwh for electricity. The price for power will continue to increase rapidly as we continue to absolutely destroy what was once a functional baseload power network. Old ICE classic cars skyrocket in price. EVs decline in price faster than melting snow. My XB falcon coupe is worth 70 grand. I only paid 6 for it when i was 16.
G’day, well done with the XB Falcon. Your average Toyota Corolla buyer though has a different story. More than 60% of Australians have a garage with electricity. The AGL EV electricity plan costs me $5 to add 400km to my Tesla. What does 400 km of petrol cost you?
I am sure that your worries about powering evs must pale into insignificance next to your worries about the electricity used by data centres and crypto mining.
the last of the v8 interceptors! be a shame to blow it up! we go one better here... the mains water ends just up the road. got a truck carting water all day long... he has to fill once a day. thats a 20km trip. wonder how he will cope, recharging on every second delivery? and sitting around all day waiting for his batteries to fill, when he can fill his 10KL water tank in about five minutes? better yet, how will the RESIDENTS deal with it? yet (it being 11pm now) i could jump on my bike and get to sydney CBD in 45 mins without breaking any rules... it isnt like we are down in st alberns or lower portland... i can SEE the centrepoint if i climb onto the roof, and they havent even put water pipes in the ground out here. and theres a LOT of properties out here that are off grid as theres no mains power either... yet some people have this idea we will be EV in less than 6 years? ha. ha. ha. ha. ha. ha. my mirth, it overflows... this is what i love about australia... you got fools living in ivory towers with no idea whats down in the basements, and you got bushies living in tin sheds cooking on wood fires, all at the same time. gimme the shed, anyday!
ICE car manufacturing is capital intensive. A factory needs to be around 70%+ utilized to make a profit. As EVs gain market share ICE vehicles will lose market share, become more expensive and the lower cost models will be discontinued. So not only is petrol going to expensive ICE cars will be expensive. Only the wealthy will be able to afford to drive ICE cars.
Actually, EVs have a much higher depreciation in North America compared to ICE or hybrid cars. This is because there is no way of knowing how much longer the battery will last, and replacing it may cost more than the used car will be worth at that time the battery needs replacing. Essentially, EVs are disposable, much like smartphones or other consumer electronics.
Yes like smartphones, computers, most new technology, EV’s get better and cheaper each year so they are depreciating like other tech. There are many Teslas now with over 400,000 miles still with their original batteries so battery life is not proving to be an issue. ICE cars are about as cheap as they can get, EV’s still have a long way to go
australia a big vast country v's norway small size. suggest diesel/petrol will be a lot longer around in australia especially for freight distribution. interesting times. not sure why new petrol stations are built? flooded with chinese electric cars but I am not interested at the moment. sure EV and ICE cars have for and against. time will tell. at the moment happy with my V8s and I dont give a toss what petrol price is or if I have worthless cars in the future as you state.
I will never own an EV and I know a lot of people like me; they will have to ban ICE fuel to stop me using my ICE vehicle and as mine uses propane, which is a very popular BBQ fuel, I suspect propane will remain available indefinitely..
Wrong. A new BP just opened up at Wollongbar 2477. A new servo at Lismore 2480 and a new one at Ballina 2478. Massive investment in the future of petrol & Diesel. We will have new ICE cars for decades and trucks too. Electric cars are not selling in the numbers projected. $20 a litre? $1000 to fill a car? Norway is tiny compared to Australia and nothing like Australia.
@@stevestesla9120 Steve NSW is 801000 sq km and Norway is 385000 sq km. The old saying don't put all of your eggs in one basket should be front of mind. If everything is electric then electricity will sky rocket in price and then what will you do? Electric cars have their place but they are not the answer for every situation. Perhaps you can make a video of the challenges that EVs face to be ready for all Australians. Range, price, recharging, the poor resale value (including how Tesla prices have dropped recently), the emissions to manufacture them (huge diesel machinery required) and how people that live in rural areas (especially remote locations) will be able to survive. In reality there is a place for both. EV for cities and towns and petrol/diesel for country areas. I don't know of an EV in Australia that can tow a large caravan/boat/horse trailer. Sure the USA has them but the price would be $200000? and not even for sale here.
Im.going to save you alot of time here Steve. Mystical petrol shortages are created by the suppiers so they can drive prices up. Remember the late 70's? Of course you do.
Yeah, we had careless days in NZ at the time. When there are 1000 ICE cars left in your town and 10,000 EV’s will all those gas stations still be there and what do you think the price of gas will be? Don’t be the last ICE car in town
@@stevestesla9120 When EVs outperform ICE vehicles in everyway, I'll buy one. Not a moment before. In other words I will never buy one. EVs are great for scooting around the city. But thats it.
@@stevestesla9120 Travelling from ev station to the next and staying in hotel rooms along the way isnt really what i class as performing equally with ice vehicles. Lots of travellers tow a caravan. Go offroad with said van. Have tinnie on the roof for fishing. In these circumstances, the ev vehicles simply cant cut it. One day they will, maybe. But the technology just isnt there yet, and wont be for decades. Ev's are not the future for so many reasons, which is why manufacturers are steering away from them, and towards other fuels like hydrogen. Im glad you like yours and are happy with it, but as i said, when ev vehicles can compete with ice vehicles in every aspect, i will consider one. But i doubt that will be in my lifetime.
Once trucks become EV and self driving, the cost to move petrol diesel around becomes closer and closer to 0. The problem is we don't have the grid infrastructure to go full electrical, easy fix. Small modular independent energy generators. Battery technology needs to improve 4 fold, charge times are close to where they need to be but the weight needs to be ideally halved. Once we get energy costs close to nothing the ability to synthesise petroleum products also increases. We need to become extremely proficient at recycling critical minerals to prevent the classic fixed supply issue. The future is brighter than all the doom and gloomists predict for us but it's less profitable. Inevitably an increase in technological advancement leads to more freedom. Something they don't want for some reason.
Cash is King. You are only talking about measrable use of cash. The vast quantity of cash is not measurable by economists or the goverrnment, which is why the control freaks hate it. Get rid of cash and you will throw a major part of the economy under the bus. For sure.
I’m fully digital and don’t use cash but I do wonder what we would do if we were in Gaza or Ukrain and all the telecommunications infrastructure was knocked out
No mention of the cost of electricity when everyone becomes totally dependent on it for their vehicles. The depreciation point of ICE vehicles will be a thing at some point no doubt. LPG vehicles are a small example of what happens when a fuel runs out. Does EV depreciation suddenly turn around as we have more of them? Let’s see what 2030 actually brings. My money is not on electric utopia in 2039. It will be some other dystopian disaster.
Wholesale electricity prices in Australia have fallen 40% as more renewables come online. It’s gas and old unreliable coal fired power stations keeping prices up. The sun is a free fuel source
I think what you'll find is that there will be less petrol station, but the price will be cheaper. The Saudi's will cut the price of oil to such that it will be competitive or else they will have no economy. Supply and demand. They will have to drop the price to compete. Plus we don't have electric trucks, so transporting can be cheaper.
G’day electric trucks are out there just not Australia yet. The Saudis are well prepared for the end of oil, check what they are doing in finance and car manufacturing. Petrol can’t drop below cost, and cost is high when only a few drivers still want it
@@Hunty49 correct, well done. To be cheaper to operate than an EV without service costs, I’m pickin that petrol will have to drop below $1 a litre to be competitive
How can we operate with so few petrol stations compared to the 70s? Petrol pumps are far faster and have far more pumps. Ill bet you that in 30years time it will still be faster to drive to your petrol station than it will be to charge your car. Among many other things there are not enough copper mines in the world today to complete an electrification of the grid. Norway is your shining example - but even there your stats are wrong with 13% of car sales still being ICE. The annual $2-3k operating savings are completely wiped out by the actual re-sale value of EVs today - not what you project they might be for ICE vehicles. The two major costs of petrol today are tax and excess demand - not refining, shipping or distribution.
Thanks Captain obvious! I mean that in an absolutely positive way. EV's are cheaper to own, especially if you do a heap of km's. People need to stop listening to the MSM and do their own spreadsheet. I sold a 2012 Outback Diesel, because it is way cheaper to buy and run a Tesla Model Y - even including interest. We do 30,000+ km's per year. Do you own maths folks!
Hi, thanks for that. One of a handful of positive feedbacks out of hundreds of negatives. A lot of people are going to get a big surprise in a few years and seem to refuse to acknowledge that this is happening
@@stevestesla9120 too right! Economics will win. Comercial users will do the maths. But punters believe what they read without doing the critical thinking.
It might seem that way in the largest cities in the larges states in the country, but I absolutely do not believe petroleum is going anywhere for a very long time. In Tasmania, I barely even see 1 single electric car on the road per day. We'll see how the landscape looks in another 10 years once China floods whe world with even more even cheaper even worse quality cars, we will see just how long batteries and inverters truely last and the repairability of these electric vehicles and the true economics of changing the entire transit infrastructure of an entire nation, including the mining and subsequent disposal (with the long term dream of recycling) battery materials. I personally do not believe anyone would ever replace one of these cheap and nasty EV battery twice, if you replace that battery once before the entire car is scrapped it would be a miricle. Meanwhile just petrol let one diesel engine ice cars easily last 30 years and 300,000kms, just bare minimum, easy.
There are many Teslas now with 400,000 miles on the original. Battery. Most UCE vehicles are at the wreckers by then. New EV’s have 10 year battery warranties. You have old information
Great video mate your points are all very valid and well argued. Another factor I often consider is the increasingly tenuous stability of global fossil fuel supply chains. One of the overlooked features of electric vehicles is the ability to fuel them from a great variety of sources, oil, gas, coal and of course preferably renewables. All plentifully available in Australia, I believe energy sovereignty will become much more important in the coming years and electrification of as much infrastructure and transportation as possible important for economic and national security. I just found your channel 😁👍our family is currently running a couple of EVs with a diesel dual cab 4wd that mainly gathers dust taking up room under the house I’ve kept it for occasional towing and remote camping holidays but it’s expensive to run register and service so was debating what to do with it was considering changing it for a new plug in hybrid like BYD shark but perhaps if fuel is going to become scarce and infrequent hybrids aren’t going to be that useful unless they have significant battery range and I’m better off just driving the old girl till it dies🤔
I feel like you are being way too generous to think we will ever be free of servos lol. I think you will have servos for the next 100 years. Probably a decreace in the amount in 50+ years
You will still be able to buy petrol in 30 years, you will have to drive a long way and pay a high price though. Just like trying to charge anEV several years ago
As demand for petrol drops the price will also drop because the world will be awash with diesel and petrol. Oil is used for 6000 products. Extracting the parts for plastics, fertiliser and so on will leave lots of the barrel of oil left over as fuel. It has to be used somewhere. Maybe in Africa, India and China. The story of no ICE engines within the next 10 years is a fantasy. EVs aren't sophisticated enough yet to replace ICE engines on farms, aeroplanes, ships, the military, or even truck haulage. It will be DECADES before green energy will be the largest contributor to the needs of the modern world. Believing anything else is delusional.
No one is saying ICE vehicles will disappear in 10 years. The point will come when ICE is the minority then you will have to hunt for a gas station like trying to find a charger when EV,s first came out.
I fully believe evs will fail like they did in the 1920s. They have the same problems back then as they did now. They dont go as far and dont last like the old veichles. I wish that we could abolish the epa and bring back good old full mechanical injection diesels and carburettored petrol cars. We had an environmental car before these new evs as well. Do LPG cars ring a bell.
@stevestesla9120 There is no issue with co2 mate. We have been saying that global warming will kill us since the 80s. Before that it was we were going to suffer an ice age. Global warming is just a natural occurrence it comes and goes.
We will need petrol to charge our generators😂. I see you paid $370 for 13 days. I presume you drove a few kms. The govt will lose a lot of tax from petrol excise..I guess they will look for a way to replace this.
@@stevestesla9120 In the 1970s, Australia had 28,000 service stations serving 5 million cars, averaging 180 cars per station. Today, with over 20 million vehicles and only 6,500-7,000 stations, each serves more than 3,000 cars. The decline reflects industry consolidation, improved fuel efficiency, and the rise of larger stations. This trend has remained stable for the past 10+ years and isn’t due to electric vehicles (EVs) taking over. Traditional fueling infrastructure remains robust, driven by evolving demand and technological advancements rather than a major shift to EVs.
@@RandomStuff-kr6pi excellent thank you. My point is that the consultants report say an 80% closure of Australian gas stations by 2030. What if there are right?
