How Much More Star Wars Do We Need? 

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​@@wasteland.baby.no way

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You did it

Drew Gooden 3 hour pooping & farting compilation when!!

And that is also what George Lucas' Star Wars orginally did. He only used a SciFi setting to tell a story. It's not about the spaceships or the science or the fictional world, it's about Lucas' own family and the real world just set in that universe. That's what it's all about.

You're wrong in one aspect, the other shows aren't telling stories. Stories have writing, Mando, BoB, Ahsoka, they don't have any of that.

Andor is great to watch at night. I don't even need sleeping pills anymore.

It's also actually good compared to those key-jangling ahows.

That's why I really enjoyed the books! It adds to the universe, rather than just recycling the same characters over and over again

Disney seems to forget that a vast majority of Star Wars fans aren’t children anymore, they aren’t going to let cool things distract them from lazy filmmaking. Its nice when someone remembers that.

The most boring character in the history of Star Wars set in Disney's Jake Skywalker Universe. No thanks

​@@cheddarandsourcream It's the opposite, they're very aware fans and others have grown up and have their own children. They're just pumping out star wars content to put on Disney+ for teens graduating from their childhood where they watched the same film 38 times in 1 day.

While I didnt enjoy Andor, even I admit it was really, really well made

And what's funny about that is majority of star wars fans hate it, so what does that say about star wars fans...

That's how it's done! For me - I had no intention of watching Andor at all ... ... but my favourite voice actress from "Witcher 3" was apparently a main character, and I had never seen her face before. So I gave it a try ... Yennefer didn't disappoint! Dedra Meero was worth the price of admission! :) As was the entire show ... I too have watched it through twice. It's brilliant!

Me too 😂

Yeah, I didn't really feel any interest in Disney Star Wars after Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi. Had no urge whatsoever to try Ahsoka and Andor flew under my radar. I paused this video to spend the previous few days to watch Andor and I can only say I feel A New Hope. Andor hit everything I find interesting in its story and furthermore had some great shots and sets. The stakes felt real throughout the series. And importantly: no cheap fanservices.

I was literally just about to go do that right now

Same here!!

You watch it yet? It's litterally a top 10 show of all time.

@@hunterbrowsing2999 I've watched it twice now. If I ever find time I'm gonna watch it a third so I can pick out ideas I want to steal for my DnD campaign lol.

@@emmafountain2059 Made me so happy to read this! Happy DnDing!

It's bafflingly good. I don't think I've seen a better written show in the last decade. A couple come close, but nothing really lands it the same way.

@@emmafountain2059 Oh wow! This show gave me motivation to start writing a fantasy novel! It's amazing how this show can inspire people

Drew and MatPat really taking it to Disney atm

That is such a vague and subjective request you may as well say "I want art to be about stuff". It is about stuff, it does mean things, you simply don't understand what it's about or the meaning behind it, at best you personally don't value what it means but that still doesn't mean it doesn't mean something.

Star wars is a franchise with kids as their target audience bruh what are you expecting

@@JohnDoe-hj9fhThis is absolutely asinine, not just because kids media can still mean stuff, but because Star Wars being "for kids" is an exclusively new phenomenon. The OT was for young adults, and even the prequels were moreso for 'all ages' because they saw how the OT resonated with everyone - and 'all ages' isn't a euphemism for 'for kids', no matter what lazy writers might tell you. The EU was also very clearly for adults, at least for the most part. The obvious argument would be "well it's for kids NOW, that's what Disney's going for!"... but is it really? Andor started in a brothel, Obi-Wan Kenobi at least attempted to show rather violent scenes, and so on. There's a group of counter-fans who keep claiming Star Wars is for kids, but nobody who has ever made Star Wars seems to have gotten that memo.

@@JohnDoe-hj9fh Pixar's Inside was targeted for kids, DreamWork's Shrek was for kids, targeted for kids =/= excuse to be poorly written.

They don’t respect you as a consumer either. They just expect you to consume

That's how they've handled everything else they own, I still don't get how Star Wars fans were so shocked when it happened with the sequels

this is why piracy is needed 😂

given who's running disney, it's pretty safe to say they consider us as mere cattle.

Same relationship as me and my dealer

To have the super cool scene of the person stopping the sneak attack duh

​@@crackerjack0349I know how joking but the funny thing is that even then it still would've been cooler for Vader to just detect her without her yelling

I have an argument! In the anime Soul Eater there is a character that exclusively screams, when he attacks people. In his case it's because he likes a grand entrance. So when he actually does try and be sneaky and do a good job, you know it's serious. I think a lot of tropes can be reframed and done well. It's just that in most cases they're just used for the sake of whatever they need to happen next.

@@schmiddinski put respect on him and call him by his name. The glorious and super cool Black Star! But yeah you can do tropes and rework them into something interesting instead of using it to move the plot along or just have something happen

@@schmiddinski I can agree with that. I haven't seen that show but that definitely sounds like an instance where it actually works for the character

Yes, and we know he won't really change in that department. In rogue one he just murders someone because they became a liability. But seeing that grittier side of him change from more self-serving to more for the greater good is super interesting. Some of my fav characters in stories are the ones who lack classic heroism

What would make Andor cool and compelling is if he wasn't gonna die in Rogue One, so watching all this back story is filler.

@@Infamous1892bruh, there were 3 movies with Anakin and Obi-wan as the main characters, we all knew what was gonna happen to them but that doesn't make the prequel trilogy filler. But everyone has different tastes, it's fine if you don't like it.

@@Infamous1892so true and the prequels were all meaningless filler. So was the clone wars show.

Good point. A lot of people watching Rogue One even think he's a villain at first, because he straight up murders an ally. And heroes don't do that! He's interesting because he's willing to do pretty terrible things to protect himself, the people he loves and the rebel cause. (Plus, what most people apparently do not realise is that if he had left the ally alive, the guy would have been tortured for information.)

I’ve never watched Star Wars do I need too to watch andor?

@@dolly20ify it’s worth your time.

​@@dolly20ifynot really. In fact just watch this and then Rogue One (movie that involves this character and the rebel vs empire war) and then A New Hope (the original movie that continues right after Rogue One)

I didn't care for it, honestly

bad opinion bad bad bad bad bad@@Fluffy6555

Damn

Never thought of that.

Suppose they haven`t done a romcom in a starwars setting.

This is the one, this is the comment that took me out 💀

​@@Notmyname1593um... Attack of the Clones? Come on.

The whole show is ... Well ... the trailer is in no way representative of the show It's amazingly better than the trailer - in every episode - by a mile Have you ever wondered what it would ACTUALLY be like to live under the Empire? This show tells you, brutally, and in no uncertain terms. And it challenges you ... would YOU be willing to risk your life standing up to this monolithic terror?

People who haven’t seen any other Star Wars are exactly who Andor appeals to.

@@jazzx251we have seen what it’s like to live under the empire from the very first Star Wars movie, and every production since. There is nothing new in Andor. What is wrong with you?

i feel so proud of him

I remember hearing that joke in a video I just watched😄

Are you sure though? I still don't feel like it was as big of a role. Little Italy was one of the biggest movies ever, so he might just be going downhill...

finally on his way to bigger italys... ❤

@@newtwoup4293this made me laugh really hard, props

Exactly. Also, that Pedro Pascal, who brought life to the nobody character is going to be less involved? Everything is a cash cow to Hollywood. If they had put even 30% of the effort into the shows that, say, HBO did with House of the Dragon, there could be SO much more fan interaction and growth. People tend to like GOOD series; they don't even have to be great.

Directors admitted the same thing about the new trilogy movies. They couldn't even be bothered to plan ahead, just gotta make that sweet sweet money 😒 Make it up as you go along that will surely work out somehow!

@@TheKleptixAdmittedly the Sequels were a complete shitshow in itself and doomed to fail before it even started

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The only thing worse than a premature end is stretching something out far, far beyond its proper ending. Slow and sad ruin is all that awaits.

Thank you, cause I legit thought I misremember that.

Shit, I totally forgot but that just makes Batman a less-interesting character.

The authorities still choose to save Harvey but they're not fast enough so Rachel dies

Yeah but, wasn’t Gooden’s point specifically about Harvey’s reaction? Harvey had no knowledge about the mix up, he was simply upset at the thought that he was being saved over Rachel Point being; Ezra should have been upset over the ramifications of him being found.

@@mastermarkus5307why? Because he chose her over Harvey? He is still human and in love with Rachel. Plus he does not know that police won’t get on time to save them both. Police was also very close to saving her as well. It just makes Joker’s plan better.

That's awesome what department you are in. Andor is by far the best Stars Wars media. You should be real proud

in an effort not to dox myself (or have the Luc*sfilm overlords come for me) I shan’t disclose if that’s ok. I will say that this show has been a real career highlight, and real love was put into making it. Hope you enjoy S2! Thanks so much

So ready for season 2

May the force be with you 🫡

Can we get some Star Wars in season 2 of Andor? Things like jedis, light sabers, droids, alien species…? Good or not, felt like another franchise entirely. Also, some facial expression from Diego Luna would be nice

Its because the giant media conglomerate monster that is Disney is WILDLY protective of their big "money-maker" IPs. You can literally see the quality of Mando decrease due to increased studio interference over the three seasons as Mando and Grogu merch began churning out cash.

None of Disney star wars is fire

@@e-satan9032 neither Andor or Mando season 1 are fire in your opinion?

It really speaks to how tight the writing was in the first place. The characters in the original trilogy and Prequels were written in such a way, that once their stories wrap up, there isn't a lot left to tell before and after. We know everything we need to about Han before he leave the Cantina, and we know how Obi Wan will spends his time between Ep. III and IV. Even with 5 minutes of screen time, you know everything you need to with Boba Fett, and he's able to capture the public imagination. As such, these series just show you more of what already happened: Obi Wan realized his failings at the end of Ep. III and makes amends for these mistakes in the OT. All his series did was make him go through the exact same journey: He's depressed in a cave, he meets the child of his former nemesis, he fights Vader, then passes the torch to his new child sidekick. It's the exact same arc, but just not nearly as tight.

​@@davidmhh9977cool it on praising the prequel movies. You don't want to be disregarded by saying they're good.

He really should’ve joined thrawn. This video made me realize that Ashoka kinda sucks. I still like it because I will lap up my corporate slop but it’s so not creative with character directions

Woah brother. That requires critical thinking skills

Oooh please write a fanfiction about this. I would totally read it.

As a Rebels fan, I feel like the continued story needed him back but I agree that they wasted the opportunity. There needed to be a catch in which Thrawn was directly involved with his story but it seems like they just wanted to get it over with. I feel like neither Rebels fans or new viewers were the intended audience, they tried to appeal to both but instead just neutered the story. Also the characters were so dull compared to their animated counterparts, just because its live action doesnt mean it has to be devoid of emotion and energy

But then they might risk pissing off all the teenagers who think they liked rebels growing up

This is the delusion that is definitive if andor fans. It’s the worst Star Wars show.

Mouse Wars has flushed the intimidation of the lightsaber out the airlock, because it's not even worst with Sabine. At least she is hospitalized for half an episode. Remember Reva? After her ludicrous attempt at revenge on Vader, he stabs her in the stomach. She doesn't die either. Not only that, she walks it off, flies across the galaxy to Tatooine, and menaces the Lars family for most of the final episode. All with her insides cooked.

she's just built different @@66Roses

Disney ruined thrawn too. Thrawn was sent to the outer rimm to prepare against the worst threat the galaxy will ever face by the Emperor himself. He knew Thrawn was a genius, and in the EU and Legends, Thrawn displays his strategic genius a multitude of times. If Disney used the already existing EU and the good parts of legends, it would have been amazing, but instead, they decided to retcon alot of shit, ru8ned characters, completely rely on ai and special effects over writing, and made Starwars cartoonish in the worst ways possible. Oh, and the fact they made it so anyone can be a jedi. It's literally bull crap. Sabine was never force sensitive before, but now she is? Wtf?

They did show that the stab was to the left and not the center. When everyone else was stabbed it when straight through the middle possible hitting their spine, lungs gut.

I tell you something ..survive is not the problem...the problem she is Ok after 24 hourse..like no injure or pain..that when it is bullshit

what does that shows name mean? And or what? And or what? if it wasn't star wars i would have thought it was a grammar show

@@natanarntMediocre bait.

@@natanarnt That joke only works when its said out loud

​@@natanarntit means Disney is so creatively bankrupt that they can't even come up with original titles for their horrible shows 😂🤦🏻

​@@Harry-fy3tebros been begging to drop this one but has no one to talk to

I have a friend who rarely ever reacts when we’re watching stuff and she said “let’s goooo” during that scene

tbqh??

Omg! Same, full body chills when I saw that

So true! I can't remember a single line from any of the other shows but so many lines like this just stick in my head! A sign of truly fantastic writing!

Mon Mothma scenes had me so hyped

That's sick, how did your husband get into that gig? I'm genuinely asking here, I want to go into Film more than anything.

what channels do you watch? just curious if i watch any of them too

@@endless_del if you're asking me, I love filmento and few others that I cannot remember the name of at the moment. But if you were talking to me then I will be glad to tell you!

@@jordanfelt5978Lol, remember and tell us then.

@@TheGreatLake1998 Cinema therapy, the critical drinker, and the closer look are other good ones.

I think he's mentioned he doesn't read comments much, but if he reads any it should be yours tbh. He is really versatile and I think it's a big compliment

He’s legit explaining the criticism well then any critic on this app I’m not even capping if Disney watched this they’d learn a thing or 2

I am willing to say that the beginning of the Disney Wars era wasn’t *too* bad. Part 7 and Rogue One were pretty fun. Sure, they weren’t too great on the substance department (I completely forgot that Poe even was in Part 7), but they worked well enough as set-up for the new era. Part 8, for all it‘s flaws, had some pretty interesting ideas. Especially the idea of Rey being a nobody. Solo… could have been a great movie, if we could actually watch it. Seriously, why does it look so bad? … Also, we don’t talk about that ending. And then Part 9 happened. Not only was it a terrible movie on it‘s own, but it actively made everything that came before it worse. Especially The Last Jedi. Holy s#¡7, they BUTCHERED that movie. „Oh, you didn’t like Rose? Okay, she now has less lines than a literal rebel no-name. Oh, you didn’t like the idea of Rey being a nobody? Alright, she’s the single-most important person in the universe now. Ah wait, we accidentally got rid of all of our villains, and we don’t want to give up out precious boytoy… let’s bring back Palpatine! A dude who’s been dead and irrelevant for literal decades now! And we’re gonna introduce these no-name knights, who are secretly the strongest fighters in the universe, just to have our boytoy get rid of them to show how cool and strong he is! Oh, you didn’t like that we got rid of Luke and Han? Don’t worry! Look, every other semi-relevant character from the OT is still here! Look, it’s Chewie and C-3PO! We’re gonna pretend to off them, to play on your heartstrings! Oh, but don’t worry, we’re gonna bring them back literal minutes after“ it’s all so backwards. It’s like a parody of itself

@@KeDe1606 I don't remember half of what you said happened in episode 9, and I prefer it that way.

@@Itchy__ I envy you. I wish I could forget all of that. And there’s still a lot of stuff that I didn’t mention. Like the scene where Rey‘s parents get taken away (they want to hide Rey from the First Order (?), but you can literally see baby Rey screaming after them right where the ship left off), the almost non-existent war, the Force becoming a magic plot device that always gets the characters to right where they need to be („We got the macguffin, but where are we supposed to go now?“ „I know where to go! The Force told me!“ repeat ad nauseam), the constant macguffins and plot conveniences (what a coincidence that the main characters just so happened to be standing at the exact place where, if they held the dagger macguffin up, it’s edges align perfectly with some faraway mountain, which reveals the NEXT macguffin), the scene where all the force ghosts give Rey a pep talk, Kylo‘s worthless sacrifice (it’s lazy, contrived and doesn’t „redeem“ him of anything), Poe and Finn getting pushed to the wayside, and so much more. I genuinely despise that movie

@@KeDe1606 It sounds really bad. I only remember Kylo's sacrifice out of all that, and how anticlimactic it felt for one of the main characters of the trilogy's death. The only other things I can remember is the fleet of star destroyers, Lando making a cameo and something something Palpatine clones. I can't even remember what basically every single character did in the movie except for Rey, Kylo and Palpatine facing off in the end. Tbh I enjoyed the last jedi more I think, at least that was mediocre in a sometimes fun and pretty way.

@@Itchy__ … the more I think about this movie, the more I find wrong with it. Like, I haven’t even mentioned Zombie Leia yet (and honestly, I don’t even want to). But I agree with your final statement. As I said, at least TLJ tried to do something unique. TROS, on the other hand, is so safe and formulaic that it actually hurts to watch. It’s not even fun bad. It just sucks

Funny you mention Jesus Christ alongside that quote.

@@evrint Profound.

Dunno bout yalll but im waiting patiently for his first script....

If death mattered, than Andor should have been killed ten times over in the so-called “great” show. Andor was just as bad as the other shows criticized in this video.

@@kennethelliott9248 I don't think it was as bad. Most the new Star Wars I can't make it through an episode. Whereas Andor, I watched about half the series. I liked the empire in it, but the whole rebels and ardor part just annoyed me. If I thought the empire would win in the end, I'd probably had watched all of it.

How exactly..they were the writers who wrote all of these awful shows

@@danlswart2409 disney has the special ability to sterilize and dumb down every script, score etc they get their hands on. the writers strike happened so that writers get paid better and hopefully they'll be given more room to make better media

Disney only cares about money. Not the artist or art. They’re a greedy capitalist corporation at the end of the day.

@@danlswart2409you don’t understand the power of executives and you don’t understand the concept of crunch and unfair working conditions. What is the point in writing something exceptional when you’ll get the same amount of money as someone who writes something lame what’s the point putting your heart and soul into something and some big wig edits out all your heart and soul from it. There’s many examples of disney doing this and they do it because they want to make as much money as possible without taking massive risks on art

@@J0non0 They won't. I hope they get no money and no jobs

Don't forget that both shows were written and directed by Dave Filoni. Filoni basically undid the story he made himself.

Ezra pretty much told Sabine that only she could save him. Are people really just glancing this over?

@@mildgooses4401 He did, but given how he is written at the end of Rebels. He would have freaked out once he figured out how Sabine got to him. Sure he want's off the planet, but he would gladly stay there if getting off means Thrawn is coming with.

​@@davidciFiloni is a hack. That first story wasnt just his story. He had others including George Lucas himself on that original production. Ahsoka is his only solo writing effort and you can tell.

​@@davidciThat first story wasnt just his story. He had others including George Lucas himself on that original production. Ahsoka is his only solo writing effort and you can tell. There's a reason Disney likes him. He will do what they want of him.

NO WHY ARE THEY DOING A SECOND SEASON!!??

@@studiogoogoo113 Because they need to tie the story into Rogue One, the movie - where Cassian comes to the end of his story.

@@studiogoogoo113 They just finished filming the second season yesterday.

@@studiogoogoo113Because the story isn’t finished? There are still lots of loose ends.

​@@studiogoogoo113Andor is set 5 years before Rogue One. Season covers the 1st year and season 2 covers the last 4 years.

That scene makes me cry 😭

PLEASW THIS NEEDS RO BE PINNED

Know for a fact this bouta be pinned Edit: you were robbed lol

Damn it I did this to

Haha. What a perfect comment. Just immediately on it, not even one minute after the video is released

I was waiting for this comment for the past 30 seconds

Maybe The Acolyte will be interesting? Old republic murder mystery, allegedly. We’ll see.

Exactly! They’re trying to force every new piece of SW media into the exact same tone (usually with a limited cast of the same recurring characters and factions), to the point that everything feels redundant. SW is a great universe and aesthetic but if you treat thousands of disparate stories as part of one singular series with the same feel, it becomes exhausting and repetitive even if many of the individual stories are strong.

that was what the expanded universe focused on. apart from the post ROTJ stuff, the EU used the setting of star wars to tell dozens of stories, the quality of which was more consistently good than Disneys. You want horror? it's there. Romance? it's there. Political thriller? it's there. classical adventure? there. The eu, for all it's flaws (they do exist sadly), did a better job of creating a galaxy filled with a rich and diverse people and places more than disney has ever done since 2009.

Like Visions? I enjoyed the variety of season 2 very much

That’s why Andor was so good. The best Star Wars stories are ones that just so happen to take place in Star Wars. Andor didn’t have to take place in Star Wars, you could switch settings and locations and the story would be mostly the same but it fits really well within the Star Wars universe because its non-restrictive structure. In galaxy of stories some of those can be fantasy, some of those can be mystery, and some of those can be drama.

its just dumb consoomers, most people love it cuz its top tier quality television on every level.

Dude, this video was so engaging, I only realised that the video was 35 minutes long when I read your comment. It geuinly felt like 20.

Real 😭 I’ve never seen Star Wars but I watched the whole video

Same

I was about to comment how i know so little about star wars lore yet i’m fully engaged in him talking abt it as if i should know the context 😭

PLEASE watch the original trilogy, I'm begging you on hands and knees

The prequels are not a good example of what you're trying to say. Like, yes, they were phenomenal for the worldbuilding, establishing the workings of the Senate and Coruscant as the capital and a littany of new planets and Kaminoan cloners and the Separatist movement and the Trade Federation and so much more, they were still familiar characters placed into new settings. Anakin and Obi-Wan were the focus, and no new characters besides Qui-Gon and Padmé were given any focus, and even then, those two were the master of Obi-Wan and the wife of Anakin. In the character department, it mostly served as backstory for familiar characters, with most new characters having little role in the story and all characters besides Obi-Wan and Anakin, so all new characters, lacking character development.

Have you read any of the books? Comics? Etc cause that couldn’t be more wrong

Big sand planet with minimal landscape goes brrr

literally !! also the prequels were amazing idc what anyone else says

I feel the same way about things feeling small and we need truly new stuff, but one of the other reasons why I wish they would move on from the Skywalker Saga is so that they **stop ruining the Skywalker Saga!** The Skywalker Saga was what kicked off this supposed to be grand galaxy and it was awesome and regardless what they do with new stuff I just wish they would stop bringing in the old characters and retroactively ruining them 😢

There is only one way out. Not a cheesy line that meant nothing. Keenoe believed it to his core by then and this showed us that. Man I love Andor

Yea, dropped together with Cassian. The look on his face when he tries to reach out to Kino...

Adds even more to his monologue about rather dying trying to escape than live as a captive forever. He knew he was never leaving that prison alive but still decided to sacrifice himself with the hope that maybe someone other prisoners will escape. The whole escape leads to what seems like only 2 prisoners escaping but without those two escaping the rebellion probably never gets the death star plans.

That broke my heart. And Andy Serkis is always perfection.

Andor fucking slaps

Was about to say this

Thank you, I thought I was insane and had heard that scene incorrectly my entire life

@@Mocityspirithaha same

i’m a minute into the video and saw this and i’m very confused as to how it’ll link up with that

​@@owens_lol same. I have no idea why I habitually start reading the comments as soon as I start a video.

When the first few episodes were out, I remember when people were criticizing the show for being "too slow" or "boring" 🙄 I'm also happy to see more Andor appreciation haha.

I hope it leads to more praise for Tony Gilroy too. Michael Clayton is my Favorite movie of all time. The screenplay is phenomenal.

This is what happens when Star Wars takes notes from Star Trek instead of the other way around.

I’m thrilled every time I see another video on how great it is. Without a doubt my favorite piece of Star Wars ever. It doesn’t surprise me that it didn’t get as much attention at first and it will only grow and I think the season 2 trailer might pull in a lot more eyes. I cannot wait for more

My friend didn’t want to watch andor when it first came out, he just finished the show last month. He realized how good it is and I found out that a lot of people had the same experience as him

Same, and I was in the goddamn shower

I've done this before too, lol. It's honestly a great way to find new movies and shows. Like I'm probably gonna check out Andor now. If you're at all interested, I highly recommend checking out the OG trilogy :)

Big same. I love watching creators passionately talk about content I wouldn't normally give two shits about. Sometimes the content teaches you about stuff you are interested about (storytelling for me) but mostly when you see people love something, and you love that 😍

@@CheckersAndRecords If you choose to dive in, fully commit to it and it will reward you in spades. I also recommend watching post episode recaps by YT channels like Screen Crush, Star Wars Explained, Generation Tech, etc. it really adds to the experience!

@@411bvRGiskard thank you for the recs, I will check those out! Question: do I need to watch Rogue One before watching Andor?

That's the problem.

And aren't the novels considered not canonical by Disney? That's 9 books worth of probably really solid storytelling Disney will be happy to poop on :/

@@jennacided6502 There is a canon Thrawn trilogy separate from the Expanded Universe books from what I understand

What is this warhammer? Why would they make someone that don't even matter at the end of the day that much effort

​​@@SammaS423 Because Marvel made it possible, and one of it became the most profitable film ever. Of course the -vultures- other companies wanted it too.

Honestly I liked Rouge one better than Andor, but the show was definitely up there with season 1 of the Mandalorian for me

hands down to best star wars show

Watch, Andor season 2 isn’t going to be watched a lot and it shows Tatooine.

@@mazkeraid4039 oh God, I thought we were done with desert planets noooo-

I like that the original movies tell us Tatooine is the most boring place in the universe and yet the franchise won't stop making us go back there.

They did this in Rogue One too. Cassian had to kill his informant because he would've been caught because he couldn't climb out.

I love how the show that everyone thought would be the least interesting was the best Star Wars show yet.

@@onelusciouslad7841 Exactly. The show everyone expected the least from turned out to be the best by far

Agreed! Andor is my favorite piece of the Star Wars world we’ve gotten to see since the original trilogy. I do love the animated Clone Wars show, too, but I wasn’t *expecting* Andor at all and therefore it feels very special to me.

Moreover, Andor wasn't just a "nobody that appeared in one film", he was a nobody who appeared in a spin-off movie that many people just brushed off as a fun addition to the saga but not much more

wtf how do you know that?

Super cool fact thanks man

@@gustavomitsunaga4379 He's a pretty successful English actor, with a very distinctive face. I couldnt miss him.

Question is, did Drew know this or is it a coincidence

And I only realised yesterday that he also plays The Broker in the Guardians of the Galaxy films.

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Star Wars wasn't popular because George Lucas was a genius; Star Wars was saved on the editing floor. The prequels (which are still trash) are an example of him trying his best. He made rookie director mistakes like not cutting from a film because he felt a scene was important, so you have 45 mins of talking in chairs or pod racing that goes on far to long, cgi that does not stand up when compared to the old Jurassic Park, and Portman and Christensen acting is terrible veterans like Neeson, Lee, and Jackson should had a say on set or Lucas really shoulda got their opinions.

I had the same experience. Everyone was going on about how good Andor was but after Kenobi and Boba Fett I wasn't gonna spend another minute on Disney star wars. Eventually though, I heard enough praise for it that I chose to check it out and was so glad I did.

Dude same but I haven't seen it yet. I'm sure I will eventually. Really shocked that people liked it I thought it was certainly gonna suck

I feel like andor is the only decent show because it mostly stands alone. Which forced them to write an actually interesting story since they couldn’t lean on faces of existing characters

I'm just burnt out on garbage Star Wars content, not Star Wars itself. If it were good, I'd endlessly gobble it up

I had a similar experience. I thought "Who needs the prequel to the midquel between the prequels and the original?" I ended up watching the whole season in four sittings, and I would say it seriously competes with the better parts of the first season of the Mandelorian, and even surpasses it at times.

Shows with nonsensical plots are boring. Andor is exciting in every subtle detail.

I agree that Andor is the best of the star wars shows, but the idea that all star wars media should strive to be like that is insane. Star Wars at its core is high fantasy adventure fiction. If your favorite aspect of Andor is that it's nothing like that, maybe you just don't like star wars lmao

​@@16flozstrive to be like it as in being smart and making sense you can have all the big Sci fi stuff while being well written and produced, the other shows do nothing with supposedly better material

fr. I think I actually got a bit of an adrenaline rush during the heist sequence. they do a really good job of making you care about the characters

I feel like people that think Andor was boring just watched the series whilst scrolling on their phones waiting for explosions and so they missed all the good stuff that was happening "silently" xd

Andor is the rare ‘prequel’ that actually made the movie that followed it significantly better.

I don’t know why Drew didn’t talk about Rogue one at all!

Careful there. Implying that Dave Filoni maybe isn't the messiah of Star Wars and isn't a very good director got me chased off Twitter in one day.

I hate when people are awful to actors for bad characters. For bad acting? Sure, I can see giving them some shit, depending on how bad it is. Some actors are good enough to still turn garbage scripts into good performances, but some aren't and that's fair. But giving them shit for the character itself or bad dialogue? Makes no sense! The actors are just that, actors, it's the people in charge of the script and direction that control the characters! A big example is Ahmed Best being treated like shit for playing Jar Jar, as if he somehow just created and wrote the character all by himself and no one else had anything to do with it.

​@@cheesefriesandgangsigns Or the hate the Netflix Cowboy Bebop crew got. You could resurrect Bruce Lee from the dead and have him play Spike Spiegel and also everyone else, but even his swag wouldn't save a bad product.

@@fluidthought42 I think I am the only one who enjoyed that adaption, primarily due to what they did with Faye and Julia and expanding their stories. It was a total mess, though! Some episodes were enjoyable, others felt like a poorly made but high budget fan film. John Cho was on point as Spike, loved that casting.

The most compelling thing about Cowboy Bebop live action was the redemption arc for the studio behind it. They learned their lesson on what worked and what didn't and channeled their takeaway into ONE PIECE of all things and knocked it out the park! Not holding my breath waiting for Disney to pull the same maneuver with Star Wars.

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Don’t you mean Danny?

don't you notice drew is actually dead danny?

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THANK YOU! Lol I was immediately looking for this comment when I heard that, makes the whole scenario even sadder for Bruce and Harvey

I also thought that, but I think he referred to Gordon and the police who did got for Harvey

yes !!!! i was looking for this comment

True but Harvey reacts the same way regardless if Bruce went to save him on purpose or not

Imagine not getting the main plot twist in the Dark Knight for 11 years. 😅

Hard to enjoy a movie where the villain uses magic to predict everything at every moment except when the script says otherwise.

Nope, Batman tells Harvey that he's going for Rachel so that they'll also try and rescue Harvey. He chose to give up the love of his life to save his city, Gotham

​@@INFILTR8USthe joker being such a genius and knowing batman so well is what makes him such a threat, he's not just some crazy guy who gets lucky he's a genius who's also unpredictable

@@INFILTR8USthere’s no magic at all. Everything is set up to be a lose-lose for Batman. The addresses are swapped so no matter what decision is made, Batman still makes the wrong one. Joker knows the police are corrupt, disorganized, and compromised. He knows that they won’t be able to organize effectively and save the other. Everything is carefully set up. He’s not a magician, he’s incredibly methodical.

@@robertdeforest9682 Then why was Gordon outside of Rachel's building when it blew up?

It's not that they don't know how to write properly, it's the execs meddling in to satisfy every single type of consumer with one show.

​@@noticiasinmundiciasNo most of them have little if any competence in writing anything, if they did have talent behind it then there would be at minimum very few bits of solid writing on rare occasions, this is assuming the higher ups don't meddle with the final projects, which seems to be improbable when you consider Wish was most definitely written by AI. Disney does not care for art, it cares for only money, and to get money the people must consume product. Let the corporation burn, and let's then stop AI from making "art" on it's own.

lmao “it’s not executive meddling actually, its just bad writing - writing that isn’t being done by writers, it’s being done by AI at the behest of meddling executives - so it’s the meddling executive’s fault actually”. Where else but a public comment section can you find arguments as next-level as “You’re wrong, I agree with you” 😂

​@@gabrielstern2885that's a bold claim, is there somewhere you can link me that go's over Disney using AI to replace writers? I don't super doubt you but extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Oh they know But they're ordered to do this shit lol

Yesss the score is phenomenal!

I heartily recommend it! Best Star Wars since Empire Strikes Back.

I highly recommend it

Watch it, it's the best Star Wars since the OT it might even be better than it tbh.

@@MrStatement Careful, Ned.

@@wildfire9280 why are you booing him he's right

When he said that, I thought I was wrong in thinking that was what happened.

Was looking for that comment, cheers, you are right

Came here to look for this comment.

I think he meant the cops chose Harvey

@@athenajaxon2397 well sort of but there’s a quick exchange between Batman and Gordon right when Batman leaves the interrogation room when Gordon asks “which one are you going for” and Batman says he’s going after Rachel. So Batman essentially thought he was choosing to save Rachel over Harvey I think is the implication. I think deep down he knew that he would be the only one able to reach either one on time.

For me: 1: Andor 2: Star Wars (a New Hope) 3: Empire Strikes Back 4: Rogue One 5: Return of the Jedi

@@jazzx251 This is me, except throw in RotS after RO and before RotJ for a top 6

I feel like any passionate star wars fan would be disappointed, it's the casual fans that wouldn't care

I don't think anyone thinks they are doing a good job

Bruh do you really think that's an unusual opinion? It seems like all the Fandom does anymore is circlejerk about Disney Bad (and Too Woke!). I'm pretty bored with it tbh. But I haven't finished this video yet, maybe it will have something interesting to say...

Ugh. Literally so sick of all the crying about star wars being woke. Youre not a kid anymore, star wars isnt for you! Go away forever, your opiniom is unvalid

@@baguettegott3409 If it's woke and good, normal people will like it. If it's woke and bad, only woke people will like it. Guess where Disney lands today.

They also actually shot Andor in the UK and it really shows. That heist takes place at a real dam in Scotland.

Yeah but they also were lazy as hell and just had ak-47s. Like come on it's not that hard

@@JohnDoe-hj9fh all star wars weapons are based on actual weapons, with the vast expansive nature of star wars, it's not unreasonable to assume there would be a weapon very similar to an AK47

@@zacharyschwartz5037 Can't wait for the mandelorian to show up with a Glock because it's possible a weapon similar to a glock exists. Or baby Yoda to have a supreme hoodie because the star wars galaxy is so large it's likely that a clothing company called supreme exists

@@JohnDoe-hj9fh quit yer whinin'. Stormtrooper rifles were literally Sterling submachineguns

As an EFAP fan, I bet you were chomping at the bit for this video like I was

Yeah I completely agree! Also because I'm just extremely angry that instead of setting the sequels way into the past BEFORE the rule of 2 where there were giant battles of thousands of Sith versus thousands of Jedi, they decided to do a sequel series with terrible writing just so they can jam in as many well known characters as possible. No one can tell me what we got is better than the early Sith wars. Who doesn't want to see thousands of Sith fighting thousands of Jedi. Sith using the dark side of the force to create monsters to hunt down the Jedi as war machines. That is literally the most interesting point in all of Star wars history. Yet they decided to set it as a sequel and also not bother to plot out how the story is going to end before putting the first movie out. I know people hate it on the prequels when those first came out but I always loved those. To be fair I was like a toddler the very first time I watched the Star wars prequels but they're so underrated okay they're better than the sequels.

It's just another awful symptom of them trying to bulk up their Disney+ catalogue 😒

I enjoy the shows but I have to agree. Well said

Andor?

Sounds like you haven't watched Andor then

Obi-Wan was originally planned to be a movie and it shows. I think the negative reception to the sequel trilogy made Disney nervous about releasing more theatrical movies whereas people loved Mandalorian so from their point of view the logical thing to do is take their movie projects and somehow stretch them out into a mini series for Disney+. I think Obi-Wan and frankly most of the other Star Wars shows could have worked way better as movies because its clear there wasn't enough there to make even a limited TV show.

To be honest I thought there was a lot of new world building in the period of 1999-2013 when it came to Star Wars productions

Guess we’re just ignoring the animated shows

Nah, the old legends stuff are superior in almost every way. Remember that things like Thrawn, mythosaur, dark troopers, Clone Commandos, ISB, Tython, Nightsisters, Rakatan Invasion, heck even Coruscant came from Legends.

on screen, yes. Andor is probably the best show to add to star wars in disney canon, but it's eclipsed through the entire expanded universe, especially during the imperial era. The show itself is incredibly good, and if there is a future where disney canon is completely erased and the legends continuity is re-established, I'd like for andor to be retconned into the imperial era, at least season 1.

Bro didn't even watch rebels and is criticizing a rebels sequel show lol

​@Spacemancer you're bad at thinking.

@pokemosh07 I completely agree.

@@jamescarter5151 sorry I'll go get another RU-vidr to copy my personality from

@@Spacemancer You're so cute I bet you think you're clever.