I hope nobody is getting their hopes up cause if so I would get ready to be very underwhelmed. If they didn't want to make the team better in offseason why would they help the team mid season
This offense is the worst i have seen in my life time. This guy is throwing pitches right down the middle tonight and the can't touch it. They are just unprofessional. If these guy weren't pro baseball players they would be unemployed losers. They have no attention to detail. I feel bad for are pitching staff. Mark my words they will have no lead in the division by the Allstar break
By the time Jerry makes any (significant) moves.... The M's will no longer be Leading the division. The offense is terrible. Our Relief pitching (minus Munoz) is unreliable. We literally had a 10 game lead 1 week ago... tonight it's 4.5....w/ a tough home stand coming up. What I'm saying isn't breaking news.... Jerry needs 2 act quick... Cuz this CURRENT Roster might win us a Wild Card❓... BUT, IT WILL NOT WIN A DIVISION❗❗
Being benched, or DFA’d is every players incentive to play better. Unfortunately, they can’t bench or DFA half the damn team. So I’m keeping my fingers crossed that multiple of these fucks are traded away at the deadline as part of a package deal.
To me this team is not fun to watch. At all. I like offense. I do like winning, but man these guys STRIKE OUT A LOT. Great starting pitching will only go so far.
2021-Abraham Toro for Graveman. Makes us worse barely miss playoffs. 2022-Castillo. Finally break curse. *clap* 2023-Sewald for 3 good prospects who are helping us now. Made worse for that year tho and barely miss playoffs. 5 good players coming in? Ha!!! See it when I believe it from Jerry. This is your make or break year bro.
@TheShakaBeast Record before or after has nothing to do with it, w/l is a team stat. Those 2021 and 2023 teams just played like crap in the first half and then went on a run. The 2021 Braves lost Acuna and then went on to in win the world series. They were mediocre while he was healthy and went on a tear a month after he left. He makes that team better. I had to give an explanation like that so you understand my point. Graveman had an 0.82 era in 33 innings with us until he was traded and while Toro was okay he didn't really add anything with a .695 ops. Trading your closer while you are in the middle of a playoff run is absolutely mindless and baffling to me, especially for what they got back. It is very bad to get rid of the guy that you rely on to lock it down at the end of the game for you like that. Not to say any of them are even close to the level of a Mariano or Hoffman but could you imagine those teams trading them away for prospects in the middle of a playoff run? What if the 2002 Angels trade away Percival for a mediocre infielder in the middle of that run? It's just the stupidest thing on earth and you lose that reliability and rock you can count on. Did it make the Mariners that much worse? Okay maybe not but record is no indication.
@@calinator51 They traded for Diego Castillo two days after trading Graveman, who’s 2.86 ERA, .4 WAR, 22 strikeouts, and 2 saves over 22 innings was moot to Graveman’s numbers in Houston (3.13 ERA, .5 WAR, 27 strikeouts, 0 saves over 23 innings) and also had Sewald and eventually Munoz ready as high leverage arms. Whining about THAT trade is just a contrarian take. A team doesn’t need four closers, and Toro’s grand slam over Graveman was more relevant than anything Graveman provided for Houston (or would’ve for the Mariners) the rest of that year.
@TheShakaBeast That is all fine. Just don't ever use record in baseball to evaluate individual player moves or impact. You need to look at those players and what they are doing not if they are winning or losing. Baseball is the one sport where you can't evaluate players on W/L, it is THE team sport. Many of the very very best players have not even came close to being on good teams or came close to a WS. Evaluating single trades based on records should never be done. I'll end it with this. In August Toro had a .775 OPS and the Mariners went 15-13. In September he had a .518 OPS and they went 18-8. They were at their best when he was at his worst.
The line-up is frankly scary looking at the stat line positions. The old school grades follow: Catcher - (B) Cal 1B - (D) need more production from this position 2B - (C-) Bliss, Moore, and Polanco 3B - (B) defensive hiccups and more production from this position needed. 15 RBI's isn't acceptable. SS - (D) basically the same stat line as 3B OF - Julio (D) Raley (B) the rest (D) New additions - (D) Polanco, Garver, Haniger, and Raley....Raley has been the best thus far in contributions. Pitching staff - (B+) what keeps it from an A? Inconsistent relivers. Looking at the stats be prepared to buckle up. Jerry & Justin - (B) They went out and tried to fill up the needs, yet the players are not playing to the baseball card stats. Things will get interesting the deeper we go into the season. Can we hold onto first place? Will we make trades? Are they willing to give up prospects? You gotta pay to get.
This Mariner club is destined to miss the playoffs this season. The lack of offensive firepower is stunning. As a lifelong fan, I don’t ever remember feeling this bad about the team when they’re in first place in the division.
@@tomtaylor1386 He is actually no good, he normally takes guys out when he should leave them in and leaves them in when he should take them out. Today was an exception for that. I was actually Impressed that he took Munoz out when he did. That saved the game.
My opinion has changed over the last couple of weeks. I have warmed up to the idea of adding Pete Alonso. If the Mariners look to do that (platoon Garver (RH) /Raleigh (LH) and make Alonso the DH they should ask about Luis Severino as well. He could be the #5 SP or go to the bullpen and pitch in the 6th-8th.
The overall problem with Miller is when he can up he was sitting 97ish and has drastically dropped the last two seasons in velo. This is a big problem, there aren’t many pitchers that are long term successful with a 92-93 fastball
I'd like to see a roster overhaul, but that is not happening. A roster without Canzone, Haniger, and Polanco on it. As much as Colby likes to tout "control the zone", that is nothing more than an ideal until there are significant roster changes made.
Great show!!! You guys always help me keep things in perspective. I know we can't always look at things in a vacuum but in December I would have been thrilled to be 4.5 up in the last week of June. As long as they add some serious pieces I think this team can be ok.
The offense he brings is enticing even with all the strikeouts but his inability to play a position decently is definitely not good. I just don't know where you put him then. It's going to take more than a Rooker or Robert to turn this around.
