How Much Were Companies Paying Pro's In Early 2000’s? - Ronnie Creager

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@diegosabalardo 3 года назад

The ES team in Argentina, I cant remember if it was 98 o 99, first Koston signs me the transworld with the BSNoseBlunt in hubba hideout, later i broked my board and he give me a board (with 3 different types of griptape on, in the middle a very thick one with the girl logo - thats inspired me a lot!) when the Es team goes Eric throw me that pair from the Van, that day was awesome!

@SlimShady64173 3 года назад

Y guardaste esa tabla?

@jeffangel7548 3 года назад

Yo u legend low key

@barfbags 3 года назад

this story is sick!!

@franckfallon 3 года назад

Man I was there when Liston bsnb Jubba my homies brother and i, epic af!

@seank6016 3 года назад

Kelly Hart pull some strings and get those bad boys reissued.

@duncanstewart2439 3 года назад

for real tho

@AlexNiedt 3 года назад

And preferably not a slim version, haha

@paulbrendanawicz4609 3 года назад

And get some royalties for Creager...

@littlebear2477 3 года назад

And the koston 3’s

@GunzyHD 3 года назад

PLEASE talk about money more often, within reason. It's like the one part of the industry I've always wanted to know more about.

@rickylefebvre 3 года назад

Definitely. Like I'm dying to know, how much money does a pro typically make? Where do they get paid from and how much from each source? I'm constantly wondering how these people can afford to not only just skate all day but also get new cars and whatnot.

@BonesDMS4life 3 года назад

@Jacob Rubio Nike pros make millions and only a couple relax

@tokyosodapop 3 года назад

@@BonesDMS4life yeah other than like nyjah and shane most of them don't make millions

@BonesDMS4life 3 года назад

@@tokyosodapop and Paul

@Thedude897 3 года назад

When they were talking about package deal I think it boils down to a few big parent companies. I also wonder how often they were getting checks in. Was he getting a 6500 dollar check in weekly or monthly

@SD-gl2do 3 года назад

Love that generation of skateboarding 90s early 2000s

@dylanboland4784 3 года назад

Touché

@OldDirtyMors 3 года назад

Same with rap, i dont feel the new stuff. Soul is gone, same as with skating

@gasNmudtv 3 месяца назад

Golden age. So glad thats when I grew up skating

@GetDeadKids Год назад

growing up skating in Socal during this era was fun. I've run into Creager a few times at random spots (mostly schools) and we'd always be blown away at the tricks he was recording. I remember one ledge my friends and I were having trouble getting on and he shows up and nose blunts it with his photographer in 2 tries.

@magichandsx5674 3 года назад

Ronnie was way ahead of his time man. still so underrated.

@CockLobster Год назад

Not underrated in the least.

@christophersawyer253 3 года назад

When is the reissue happening? One of the best shoes. Let’s get Ronnie some more paychecks.

@Xboxracer1 3 года назад

Totally on board with that idea!

@PHeMoX 3 года назад

I would definitely get it.

@PHeMoX 3 года назад

@@whatyouseewhatyouget3021 You literally make no sense. Thinner shoes offer less protection for ankles, not more. And rolling your ankles is 80% in how you skate and walk / jump / land. Being lightfooted and accepting a fall and rolling out of it, is a lot better than forcing a land, missing the board and getting your ankle messed up. In reality, what shoes you wear matters very VERY little when it comes to rolling ankles.

@jarnold3415 3 года назад

Those were the best shoes to skate in

@its7494 3 года назад

@@whatyouseewhatyouget3021 yeah man gonna have to disagree with you on that one, skated everything from vans sk8 hi pros to és Accel OGs and fat shoes result in less injury 100% of the time

@df3kt Год назад

I was flow for Sole Tech back when these came out Creager was my favorite skater and I loved those shoes. I got tons of free pairs and all kinds of unreleased color ways. Best shoes ever! I met him at a demo dude is awesome

@nunya8938 Год назад

@@gyrate98hater

@VMpastore 3 года назад

I wanted that shoe so bad but never got it. I had it circled in about 4 years worth of CCS catalogs. Such a nice shoe

@officialPURPLEGREEN 3 года назад

The Creager and the Muska, were THE dopest Skateshoes. Have to get them somehow.

@1shamsham 3 года назад

imagine hearing Prod,Shane O'Neil, and Nyjah Huston talk about checks....

@guyfromthatthing1017 3 года назад

Minutia. If you employ a financial team to deal with it you don’t have to talk about it.

@solefood7477 3 года назад

They all.got Nike checks for a million signing bonus

@1shamsham 3 года назад

@@solefood7477 my whole point

@Czwascz 3 года назад

Tony Hawk has entered the chat

@skamarfire 3 года назад

I had a Jeron Wilson's DVS, white and brown and those were lit!!!! And amazing to skate

@heelturnsface 3 года назад

To be fair, Jeron got his pro model when DVS started pumping out kook shoes.

@mvngo2603 3 года назад

One of a fav shoe. I had the grey with red and than the white with blue trim. Only things about em is the reflectors on the rear comes off easy.

@rad44rr 3 года назад

Should do a talk about the standards and levels AMS and pros are at, how hard it is to get into the industry , how you can be replaced.at a finger snap etc. Skating is at a ridiculous level right now.

@AD3SPG Год назад

Definitely miss the shoes from 2002-2011 when I was skating they lasted way longer, I tried some slim shoes in 2011 and they lasted about 2 months compared to the 5--7 months.

@bushdickbill Год назад

u can’t feel shit though

@smurxxx0910 Год назад

I'm wanting to try out Asics.

@tim1309 3 года назад

I remember when I got a pair it was also white and royal blue and had some reflective trim on it I think also they came with royal blue laces that were straight gas I remember going to skate camp with a fresh pair and everyone was loving them.

@dexgray4581 3 года назад

Can we all agree this was THE MOST INCREDIBLY COMFORTABLE SHOE EVER! That thing was so freakin’ padded internally and protective!!

@corrd3ll647 3 года назад

Hmmm. Never skated them. You make them sound better than my old DC sponsored shoes😅 Been skating since 98😅

@Makabert.Abylon 3 года назад

All the old goodies from és👌🏻 scheme and what not cant remember the names now almost 20 years later😆 dont think they would feel nice to skate today tho

@dexgray4581 3 года назад

@@Makabert.Abylon I feel like Ronnie’s model would still be really comfortable to skate in although pretty thick/cushiony… Do you remember the eS EOS??? Such a random short-lived shoe from that company! But I loved them. A bit thinner and less padded for sure

@Makabert.Abylon 3 года назад

@@dexgray4581 yeah it could probably be pretty nice to skate in even these days 😃 i had to look them up recognized the name, they look 🔥 not sure if i ever had a pair

@RandyyLaheyy Год назад

@@corrd3ll647nobody cares

@SigHDucK5 3 года назад

I had 2 pairs of Creagars (black and yellow colorway was sick), good bit more comfortable than Kostons (still have this Green/Black/White colorway pair) during that era. The Creagers had the air bubble where Kostons did not...

@returnfreedom 2 года назад

I loved the creagers, Ronnie was my fav skater back then but I will say the Koston 2's were awesome because they felt more precise with flicks, the koston 1 was derivitive compared to the 2.

@SamRussell-NL 3 года назад

eS Creagers were my first 'real' skate shoe. Glad he was getting taken care of back then

@stevebanning902 2 года назад

Ronnie is so chill

@Andrew4181975 Год назад

I had quite a few Ronnie Creager Blind boards. The best shoes that were actually made to be skate shoes were some Mark Gonzales ones made by Adidias. They were indestructible so ,of course, they stopped making them quick. Now I always get regular Shelltoes because they are my favorite.

@misfitramone Год назад

I still have a brand new pair of Jeron Wilson 2 dvs in white black and green.

@alextrip9750 3 года назад

Still have my DVS Jeron Wilson 2s black white with green soles. And the Diamond x dvs Jerons

@utubit22 3 года назад

Good looking on getting Ronnie on here. Great guy. Great skateboarder.

@iocat 3 года назад

Cool to hear shoe business talk!

@michaelrowe8115 3 года назад

The Gavin CTs, I had 3 pair. Great shoe

@dylanfuller8146 Год назад

My first video I’ve ever bought was the blind what if back in middle school. So nostalgic to think about.

@MITCHY_B_2003 3 года назад

I remember my older brother saved his money and he had my dad call up CCS and order him a complete , it was the Blind : Ronnie Creager Mix Master deck with Titan Ti-Lite trucks , Spitfire classic wheels (Small) , and Independent griptape with the little iron cross logo cut out . The deck graphic had a little DJ wearing headphones scratching records on it . This was way back , circa 98 .

@nickkerr5714 Год назад

That was my first real deck, grew up in Tustin ca

@MITCHY_B_2003 Год назад

@@nickkerr5714 It was a popular deck , we were in Salem , NH

@gdaybevo Год назад

@@MITCHY_B_2003 My first real deck in Brisbane Australia - that thing was magic. Was almost too scared to boardslide.

@erichlf Год назад

This was my favorite shoe, except that it didn't grip well so at a park if you missed your board you were slipping out for sure. When I skated for DVS (flow) I would only skate the stealth.

@traviscarver4708 Год назад

The olive green Creager shoe is still my favourite skate shoe I ever skated. The brown accel is a close 2nd.

@smithnwesson990 6 месяцев назад

I remember varial flipping off the small love ledge in Philly being hyped then my boy comes up off the large ledge and does a hardflip late frontside shoveit. Fuckn crazy at the time in 2000

@nicglasstro8439 Год назад

So glad Roger is off-camera now 😂

@bigmoney2674 Год назад

I skated with creager when I was 13… didn’t know he was a pro at the time. Just me and him at the Tempe skate park. Cool memory.

@randytaylor9025 Год назад

Now this topic caught my attention ! I’ve always wanted to know how PROS/ AM’s get paid 👍

@bradfoster8146 3 года назад

Great beer Jeron!

@BLVCKSEA Год назад

That shoe was sooooo dope. If it got re released today I would definitely cop it again.

@jasonweber5464 3 года назад

One of my favorites. Rob D. DC Ten shoe

@edochoa3452 3 года назад

I once smoke a fat blunt with Ronnie amazing skater that was back in 1999 in San Diego great skater one word ..."legend"

@renegarcia7856 3 года назад

I got what I ask for ! I wanted a creager interview!

@MC_1993 Год назад

I remember getting a new pair of eS and the smell was something else. Nothing like the smell of a new legendary skate shoe

@willis4734 3 года назад

His eS shoe was an amazing shoe

@9svm 3 года назад

Holy shit 6500 per month? You def could set yourself up with some savvy

@IsthisMike 3 года назад

It really isn’t that much if you think about it. That’s $78,000 a year excluding 40% for taxes is $46,000.

@harperperry744 3 года назад

@@IsthisMike Closer to $55k after deductions. No where close to 40% taxes. Tax rate would be around 21%.

@colinhawks2469 3 года назад

@@IsthisMike when taking inflation into mind it’s closer to about $120k in today’s value which is pretty damn good honestly!

@IsthisMike 3 года назад

@@harperperry744 21% in California?

@boardforthescraping 3 года назад

@@IsthisMike you should probably get someone else to do your taxes

@TylerMcKinney 3 года назад

"probably" "maybe" "I don't know" lmao

@GettingHyphy 3 года назад

Creager lookin like Roger's dad

@rhythmculturerecords1017 Год назад

Bought some used boards from Ronnie at Trabuco Hills High School probably around 1995.

@EPSGplayer 3 года назад

TELL US HOW MUCH YOU WERE MAKING!! 😓 Mikey Taylor said at his height he was getting like 250k a year or something

@alloverbucks23 Год назад

The DVS DRESDEN in any color way was the shit. Especially the wake boarder Dresdens. But I was lucky enough for Mikey Taylor to gift me the DVS/MATIX DRESDEN DENIM shoe. I still got them in the original box. 🤙🏽🤙🏽

@johnnyperalta9658 3 года назад

He always has a hat on my whole life yo 😆

@JBlicky007 3 года назад

Where are they getting these vintage shoes?? Does ‘es have a bunch of classic shoes somewhere in the back of storage.

@pressureflipin1992 3 года назад

One of the best shoes ever is the Ronnie Creager eS'. We need a reissue! For ourselves for Ronnie. Let's get him paid!

@victorperfecto7472 11 месяцев назад

It was reissued months ago and it sold out in a day es site and skate sites

@pressureflipin1992 11 месяцев назад

@@victorperfecto7472 I know. I bought two pairs ☺️

@victorperfecto7472 11 месяцев назад

@@pressureflipin1992 i missed the imitial reissue. Im preparing for the spring launch

@urch-rs7dx Год назад

Is Jeron saying $6500 a month? Per week? Per year?

@PeepGamePopoff Год назад

Mobth

@toneohm Год назад

Ronnie Creager!! absolute legend

@chfour83 3 года назад

I also had the wilson 5 girl collaboration shoe in brown

@enjoy_the_board Год назад

“PAY YOUR TAXES!” -Chad Muska

@Unogamingchannel Год назад

so hyped for the fall, I want the Creager and Muska re-issue.

@catachiloafter3160 3 года назад

Súper coool dude

@dirtbagzrus 3 года назад

Omg I love this shoe!!!

@willlazenby1050 3 года назад

Supposedly James Craig racked up crazy credit card bills back in the day at Dave & Busters, probably with Ronnie lol.

@Jleon1983 3 года назад

Marc Johnsons shoe was incredible

@Dead2you Год назад

OG tech god right here. some of the butteriest fs tails in the game.

@nickbrenner6459 3 года назад

In the 4th grade I Got a pair of the blue and white Muskas with a secret stash pocket in the tongue that had a boom box necklace...never will I be that excited about a shoe again

@ryanabourisk1369 Год назад

God damn I love those kicks

@cadesmith70 3 года назад

get john cardiel on the show

@360sonny 3 года назад

What is he’s setup?

@luqmanshaharuddin5024 3 года назад

Imagine muska paychecks back then ..

@Skateboarding151 Год назад

The full white soft leather one with light blue accent was one of the best skate shoes ever

@balltalkdeep 11 месяцев назад

more numerical details please

@OneTwo-hu7st Год назад

Great story I wod like to hear how they make Adio Bam V.2

@hi_tech_reptiles 3 года назад

I remember having a DC shoe around that time. Lasted me 3 months lol. Sole ripped off.

@dgod6715 3 года назад

That's pretty dam Good I go through a pair every two to three weeks

@wetcrumb2191 3 года назад

Shoe's are so flimsy now. Skateboardings too expensive these days with shoes ripping after 2 sessions

@hi_tech_reptiles 3 года назад

@@dgod6715 Jesus Christ, I wouldnt be buying anything outside of Walmart shoes if that was the case lol... Though for skating I prob wouldnt be doing that anyway, even as casually as I skate now (just started again after years)

@hi_tech_reptiles 3 года назад

@@wetcrumb2191 yeah i hear you, especially if you feel you need 50+ dollar shoes. I dont care if the shoes fall apart if I can skate with 20 dollar shoes lol

@dgod6715 3 года назад

@@hi_tech_reptiles I skate hard every day tho

@mattwilliams3373 3 года назад

That shoes still looks good, they could sell the hell out of those

@chrisc.27 2 года назад

I still have those shoes from almost 23 years ago

@maxxmartin7509 Год назад

I got gifted a pair of worn Creager shoes when I was a kid The white with red accents. They were beat to hell but I loved em'

@chlastek13 3 года назад

Hehe see crob suffering when he is pushed out of track when kelly ask questions about the design shit. Finally crob got to the point and got the answer about the paychecks digits. Fuck yeah thats what viewers are interested in xD i love how crob collects that damn info

@sukiyaLocal Год назад

Still have Emerica Reynolds dark purple one.

@joeljung9135 3 года назад

What would Janoski get for his shoe ?🤔

@pabloenrikay 3 года назад

Millions

@TheSpleenboi Год назад

Haha rog. I had the Anderson twice! lol

@EthanisWhite 3 года назад

Shout out dubs with the space dust!

@m.cat.bones.8546 3 года назад

There should be a skateboard workers union. So that it's not only 10 guys in a whole industry that get paid well. Collective bargaining would help so that this money could be more fairly distributed. People say there is no money in skating then why did Nike, addidas, and billabong buy ever brand? 🤔

@acoustictreatmentservices9926 3 года назад

Unions ruin most industries. Some people work harder than others. it would not be fair to those guys that do work hard. I do think these sponsors should pay out more however the profit margins are so thin in skateboarding. Shoes are what really holds the glue together for this industry.

@Justin-np3ki Год назад

This is why its impprtant to discuss pay amongst your peers. People get taken advantage of.

@samuraipizzacat2171 3 года назад

These figures they talking about weekly?

@earthlevel4569 3 года назад

When jeron said $6500 is that per month? Per 2 week period? Per quarter?

@modularmoon 3 года назад

I had this question as well. Im assuming per month, which doesnt actually sound like that much, but if yoou take into account inflation being about 150% since 2000, it's actually more like 10,000 a month, which is pretty good, especially considering these are young people getting paid to do what they love

@chrischarla424 3 года назад

@@modularmoon No taxes taken though so you have to pay a lot in taxes -- not just the income but also SSI and medicare which at a regular job your employer pays. On the other hand they can deduct basically everything as a business expense... $.51/mile when driving from home to eS, etc. etc.

@samuraipizzacat2171 3 года назад

@@modularmoon yep! It would be hard not to be hyped with 2.5k a week for free shoes that you love.

@chiphutchison5302 Год назад

First pro model I got blind ronnie creager popsickle, 7.56 lifestyle

@joeywitt7129 Год назад

I always like to know what there were getting paid

@vincentlambert57 Год назад

Back in em days. 6500 was like 10,000-11,000 😮

@zadekeys2194 3 года назад

6k is decent today, so 6k back in the early 2k's...

@jongates3747 3 года назад

Man the sad part about skateboarding is that the community doesn’t pull in a bunch of revenue for the talented. Rob Dyrdek has done more for making skaters money than just about anyone. It’s an art though and artists love it because of the experience. But we all gotta live. I love skateboarding and I’ll be damned if I don’t so something to move this forward.

@hksolventless9260 3 года назад

*Sells ankle rolling shoe *Sells ankle braces 20 years later This man is an evil genius, lol

@drmatacic 3 года назад

@@whatyouseewhatyouget3021 Your a kook.

@sh666nks 3 года назад

@@drmatacic You're*

@drmatacic 3 года назад

@@sh666nksYou're a kook also.

@wizzlemane7308 3 года назад

Creager has the same facial mannerisms as Rog.

@zg-mzga 3 года назад

shawn white the flying tomato

@Dan.Solo.Chicago 3 года назад

I always wonder how much guys like Tom Penny made. There’s nothing about him you could see and say he must be ballin or that’s were the moneys going. Plus his Menikmati part was recycled old footage. (And still epic! wtf)

@N-B-MMA 3 года назад

Concords were my favorite

@billykimber616 Год назад

Why do skate brands not care about making high quality shoes anymore nor good silhouettes like they just gave up on being the leaders in footwear

@raw_si_siht Год назад

Cutting corners for profit.

@_RobBanks 3 года назад

So they say a base number (6500$) for a cheque. It means FUCK ALL if you don’t say frequency. I’m assuming bi-weekly. So thats 150K / year

@user-mm9hv2oj8d 3 года назад

they said "monthly check" before that plus some got quarterly. I thought it would have been more

@summerrr1 3 дня назад

6.5k in 1999 is 12k now

@ronaldi723 Год назад

was it $6,000 every month??

@BIMONLAKI 3 года назад

Those shoes are so clean! Es put penny back on so I know they can pull some strings for Ronnie !

@chfour83 3 года назад

DVS Revival aka Gavin Classic shoe

@jakekiyo 3 года назад

Pro skaters still won’t talk about pay, it’s not like they’ve opened up about it recently. It’s a weird topic that’s unspoken

@TheoRhoades Год назад

MA402's...terrible quality but one I wish they could bring back

@mjmendozaiv Год назад

it's sad that pro skaters don't get the same treatment like other athletes, ex ballers, who get millions of dollars in contract. they bust their ass getting that sick banger for just few grand a month. it's not like they'd be skating after 40s and still get paid.