How My Viewers Caused WW3 In 1949 

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a amazing video it's like war games simulation next time do a AI makes an alternative Europe

Amazing video I shall vote in the next peoples vote

Poland would never agree to such a reduction of the country's territory, especially Poland, is on the side of the winners here, a more realistic option is the return of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.

"Democracy is relative" - some random dictator

Same reason people thought a democratic Iraq would somehow be a U.S. ally

While I very much agree that if China were forcefully democratised after say WW2, they would be an unstable and a massive mess. But most people who suggest that, actually unknowingly don’t. They suggest putting the Kuomintang in power as sole government. Like in the video’s scenario. The Kuomintang were hardly democratic in that era. After Yuan Shikai tried to declare himself emperor all pretext of democracy was thrown out the window, and hardline military dictatorship took over in the following warlord era, and continued through the Japanese invasion, and the civil war. The Kuomintang didn’t drop the military dictatorship even when reduced to just Taiwan until 1987, when democracy was restored, specifically to prevent unrest and republican revolt. A unified China under the Kuomintang of Chiang Kai-shek would have been a brutal oppressive hell hole, worse than the atrocities that happened under Mao. They weren’t democratic, they were authoritarian nationalists and would have ruled as they did in Taiwan under Chiang Kai-shek, with an iron fist without mercy.

Some places should never have full democracies, including China and the middle east, because it just causes more problems than solutions

​@@A.R._Ironstarhardly worse. No communizing the fields and bird shooting, no famine. And ruling all of china spells faster democratization

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​@@NibanoTuganoConcordo

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Nice pfp bro. Yes, all these videos are basically proof of the horrors of democracy

​@@pmcshow44 When people don't take things seriously and do what would seem cool instead of what makes sense. Yes, ik that's the point of these but still shows it's impact

He quoted "history matters" style

Honestly, I will bet my kneecaps that they'll pull out Intermarium. There's just no way they won't do that.

bUt RuSsA aTaKk UkKRaiN hoW CuLd yOU fAvOuR tHeM !!!1!!

@@user-cmcumm not funny

​@@Danube-TVOr more pissed off that they loose all pre-war territories despite being victims in WW3. If Russia will not go revanchist route first, I can see Poles get into conflict with Ukrainians over Galicia, reminding them Volyn and etc.

Possible history viewers that vote usually are delusional or trolling or going for the underdog that favours them

All of them do

Stalin gave away polish lands to northern Germany which then alligns itself with west anyways and after war Poland being victim again still gets eastern territories taken away somehow this guy really hates Poland cus just gave away their land for no real reason

Small Poland Booki

Tho Poland retained some territories that are currently in Belarus

what do you mean? That video was Beautiful!

What's worst is the outcome, I feel like screaming my lungs out because of that

@@minestar2247fr

Not really. Gorbachev lived.

sotrue @@lesbaguette4381

​@@lesbaguette4381That wasn't Stalin's Soviet Union though.

@@DarthAwesome117 Right! Thought that said 'the' rather than 'his'.

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Or redditor

These videos make me think democracy is a mistake, Including forcefully westernising the rest of the world, even irl

@@senkler everything is impossible to predict, all is probabilities anyway

@@minestar2247 I guess the success of D-day was just a rare probably then seeing as it was stormy and the general overlooking France that could've stopped it coincidentally decided that there's no way the Americans are going to invade in this weather and went to see his wife on her birthday which was also coincidentally on D-day.

@@mksushi5754 exactly

Well Europe is just awful. Germany could become a great power like OTL economically especially with it being larger but it is currently much weaker state.

PH is not good with sociology. The West no doubt has collective PTSD from the world wars.

isn't that basically what happened? the US chose to prop up their hated chinese puppet state, the US chose to continue fighting the war and initiating the first strike with nuclear weapons, and the US ensured the only outcome of the war could be either total victory or total defeat

Yeah, they could claim that America strong-armed the WW2 negotiations to ensure that the communists started WW3.

That’s the US in every war. They only fight war on home soil if it’s against themselves or a weak foreign power (like Mexico or Canada)

​@@tempejkldidn't they fight the British empire in the revolutionary war and the war of 1812

@@Kaiser_Polaris In the revolutionary war they didn't exist yet and little infrastructure damage happened. Very little damage during 1812 either. Compare this to Europe, Poland completely destroyed, so many dead, USSR completely destroyed, 1/8th of population dead, Yugoslavia, Germany, etc. etc. Although they rebuilt quite quickly, with the Soviet and Warsaw Pact policy of housing for all, the damage is still felt. Western Europe was relatively untouched.

Stalin was on the floor with this one too.

sounds like the 21st century

​@@tempejkllike America is bad or something or just America dominates the world?

@@RonanHarkins-xk5zz both. Although US crimes are not as bad as Nazi Germany of course.

​@@RonanHarkins-xk5zzyou know being dominated by a foreign empire is not very nice, america (and the brits and french) have caused so much destruction and death not only for the world but for themselves, just look who gave lots of money and guns to the mujahideen (the soviets were also bad but they didn't cause as much conflict on the world)

​@@eduardcardenas9736No. The Soviets aren't as bad. They are worse.

The blursed timeline. The world goes through 3 world wars, all involving Germany, and yet they come out of it almost the same territorially and governmentally.

Probably not, and not for long

i kinda don't get why czechoslovakia starts with crippled czech borders but yeah

It's because most of the ethnically German Sudetenland was split between Austria and Saxony as per the viewer vote.

@@DakuHonooGerman sudetenland population got integrated into the surrounding German states.

as a Pole this is a nightmare

Maybe but at the same time its not a garantee. After all if germany and austria would want to unite right now, i dont think anyone would really stop them but there just isnt really a big wish for it.

​@@theChaosKeit was a huge support during the 1920s within Austria to join Germany but they were prevented by treaty

Yes and I don't understand why Germans should be given back land annexed after the war. The Monarchists and ex Nazi officials would be more than willing to fight the Soviets anyway. All NATO is doing by giving away the land is pissing off Denmark, the Netherlands and Poland.

Wouldn't the existence of the UN incentivize them to remain separate, united in confederation?

@@board-qu9iu I am aware, i am just saying that considering they dont unite right now, shows that uniting just for the sake of being united is not enough of a reason by itself. In the 1920s there were massive economic benefits for austria to join while now most of these benefits are already available via the EU.

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The populace would likely be against nukes, but america is now dominant and has a very powerful propoganda engine, considering how much power being the only nuclear power gives them, I imagine the US would use their nukes as leverage over everyone else.

There would be an American nuclear monopoly, period. With, possibly, civilian nuclear power graciously allowed to trusted subjects like Britain or France, but under strict control.

Ergo, _the_ worst timeline.

imo america would only allow itself to wield nuclear power - it would give massive scientific, military and economic advantages which would secure itself into the future and since it is so easy to tell if someone is developing nuclear technology, it would be easy to justify to the world that no-one else should be allowed to wield it due to the devastation caused (look at how much the nukes in japan convince people on the nuclear threat, let alone the complete destruction of a major european capital city like paris or berlin)

Well it’s France so I see no issue😊

Himmler survived in this timeline and lived to organize that part of the reorganization deal.

Possibly for the best. We saw from WW1 and its aftermath how "helpful" French reparations can be for securing a lasting peace.

Maybe France will turn into a Facist.

yeah all the videos on the channel are good..... except for this one.

"Paris: Got a makeover." I already like the timeline, you don't have to sell it to me.

“A 5 minute conversation with the average voter is the strongest argument against democracy” -Winston Churchill Quite possibly the only good thing Churchill has ever said

​​@@tempejkl1. Most countries are not democracies. 2. What are the other options? Tell me a system of government that does not opress its people but is as efficient as authoritarian systems. What options are there?

@@HWQFish 1. True 2. Democratic Socialism. Example:Cuba. And by Cuba i mean its political system, not the economic conditions (cuz of US embargo) for example in Cuba the people voted in favour of the world’s most progressive code. This is actual involvement of people in decision making. I believe AzureScapegoat has a good video on this system.

Did nobody realize that this is @rewriting-history???

@@malachiriehl1053 impossible

You do realize France is anti-communist regardless of some radicals within. Also it's not even the birth place of communism or the only one

Legit. If not London then a more realistic target would be a port cities like Rotterdam, nuking France in this scenario did nothing to help the Soviets while blowing up continental Europe's biggest port would hamper NATO logistics massively.

How strange, i didnt know Marx was from Paris?

@@chairmaniac1722 he was German, but the Paris commune was one of the first examples of a working communist government, and that was when the Prussians got to france before declaring Germany.

Yeah, a France that was forced to give up Indochina after the war would absolutely not align itself with the US and Britain. While the war in Asia is plausible, I can't say the same for the war he describes in Europe.

Either that or a half person died? idk what that entail either

​@@RegularRhombicDodecahedronhe got sliced in half, whaddya expect

@@RegularRhombicDodecahedron of course! It's basic maths..

No, he didn't even try

I guess they could gain theyre colonial claims

like cpngo

I mean... It kind of already did... They controlled like 25% of the world at one point.

It did

Mosquito coast ?

Ditto.

most capable PH viewer:

Im proud of Greater Yugoslavia and monarchism in Europe

Honestly I try to create as much chaos as possible to make the video about what would happen more interesting

u sure? he seemed pretty confident in giving Finland a bit of Karelia in exchange for southern lands

no

TNO is terrible fanfiction. It's as realistic as Wolfenstein or The Man in the High Castle

There isn't much more of a second part to have when the US can just nuke anything that becomes a problem, and using nukes tactically has a precedent, and the Monarchies eventually go the way of GB.

he had a video "how Soviets could have won the cold war", this is pretty much it

I have no idea where you got the statement that stalin genuinely wanted to reduce germany to a nation of subsistence farmers when a lot of his post-war efforts were spent propping east germany up to be a powerful bulwark against the west

Or stalin dies before the negotiations, and a different soviet premier does the negotitiations

I don’t think people are stupid for this. They didn’t vote with the idea that they were going for a sustainable or safe option, people did that vote for an absurd and fun scenario to watch play out

​@@austingole4861the entire ww2 peace deal looked Like an elaborate ass Pull for Russia and china, and the idea of ww3 aint really fu if you get deeper than the map painting stage

Nah this would just cause more problems later. It’s good communism is gone. But let’s not act like most of these democracies would last long.

To be honest we do have some earlier peace deals/treaties to cover that would be interesting. 1. An alternative end of the 30 years War. 2. An alternative colonization of the new world (not a singular treaty, but would be fun to have viewers vote on initial colonies in the new world). 3. An alternative end to the American Revolution (what lands do Spain and France gain, do the states unite or become separate nations)