What If France Invaded Germany in 1935? 

What if the treaties after WW1 were treated like another Congress of Vienna, where instead of punishing the aggressors they seeked to restore the balance of power in Europe.

“There is something we could do” - Napolean

Echoing Dutchman doesn't exist, he can't hurt you. Echoing Dutchman: 13:05

If France would have been willing to war with Germany over Versailles, and Italy does not support this, I imagine they might be willing to be involved in Spain to a greater extend too. Maybe not enough to change their fate, but I think the topic should have been explored more and not just brushed over.

I wonder how long Hitler would have lasted in this scenario. His regime was predicated on building a Greater Germany and without any success on that front, would the regime survive? It's possible it might crumble some time in the mid 40s even without military defeat. OTOH, maybe he'd be like Franco and prove surprisingly politically adept and remain in power until the 70s!

The Rhineland being the cause of divergence can be familiar to anyone who's ever played France in Hearts of Iron IV.

Poland said to France in 1936 that if France would attack germany Poland would help so in this scenario I think Poland and maybe czechoslovakia would in deed help France

Man I love PH's videos so much, I want two of them. Genie: your wish is granted 13:06

These videos are getting better and better! Great job dude!

13:06 that echo😂😂😂😂😂😂

The fact that Britain and France actually tought of doing this, but didnt go through because of public opinion is "funny". Machiavelli was right sayin that if you base your reputation in the masses, you are putting it on mud. Bismarck was a good leader because he literally didnt care about public opinion, mostly due to his aristocratic nature. And in the end the masses made him the hero of Germany anyway lol

As a french man I bet there would be a revolution somewhere in this timeline, just for the sake of respecting our old traditions

Hoping we can see a “What if everything went perfect for Poland” video.

Poland in our timeline itself proposed to invade in 3 moments. After Nazis took power in 1933, after rhineland militarisation in 1936 and when germans annexed austria. OFC it heavily realied on the french backing as it was known that while huge progres would be made, a war alone with just germany can isolate poland in world's stage, letting Stalin to take it to his advantage. Not only that Poland didnt underestimate his opponent knowing well, that if they attack Germany, they can rapidly mobilize as well in other options we already knew about the hidden army as we were quick to break the german code and so risking such move would be disasterous if france wouldnt intervene, which after asking if they would, they declined.

this was a great video keep these coming

13:06 bro got cloned💀

You should have mentioned Poland would be willing to assist France in invasion of germany

Napoleon be like: Guess who’s back!

Amazing video Possible History! I loved it

Ok here there’s a massive mistake. U stated that Italy was more sympathetic to Germany which isn’t at all the case as Italy itself called for an invasion of Germany only 2 yrs before your start of the scenario furthermore the Spanish civilwar hasn’t kicked in yet and that’s where the relationship between Italy and Germany started to change ( which is why the nazis joined in the first place as they didn’t gave a fuck about the Spanish and the Italians were there only because they were trying to turn all Latin nations fascist). If France however wanted to do this Italy would 100% try to get something out of it aside of not having big Germany looming over their head from Austria which is the main reason for which Mussolini didn’t join the allies but preferred aligning himself with Hitler with the creation of the axis. But don’t be mistaken both the italo-German alliance and the Molotov ribentrop pact were a result of Anglo-French incompetence more than Germany ability

If I had money then I would definitely donate it to you since the best part of my week is when you upload a very enjoyable video twice a week.

Another amazing video

It has been months... can you please make what if everything went perfect for Romania?

Thank you I already thought that this was a Special video only Channel members could watch

There was a nice echo at the end. I liked it

13:06 trippy

France: I will do what i must Germany: You will try!

Great video, as always, but just one thing, in the outro, your last sentence gets duplicated. Keep up the great work!

Most importantly, WW1 would still be called the Great War

Suggestion man! What if the assasin killed franz joseph and his brother maximolian became Emperor?😊😊😊😊😊

You should do some audiobooks, you have such a soothing voice

the amount of horrible mistakes that allies made that lead to early german successes in ww2 is impressive lol

Love the video

13:07-13:12 possessed possible history 💀

What if everything went perfect for Romania

yet another banger

France: Germany don’t do that! Germany: No France: Ok :)

i like this video good job

I love possible history

France strikes back! LOVE your content 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

It’d be cool if you did war treaty votes for alternate war scenarios/endings, such as the Central Powers winning WW1.

The end of the video is halarious

Will we have a perfect Japan video? Ive noticed it was removed from your planed videos

new vid time babyyyy

"puts their foot down" sounds way too familiar doesnt it?

Good video

finally so,eone with quality does this case

The thing that is missing in the video is that Poland would help France in war with Germany. In our timeline the polish government accually proposed France the intervention over the Rihnland, but France refused. With that in mind it is very possible that France and Poland should quckly win the war, Germany would lost very important territories like Upper Silesia and Saarland and the nazi government would be overtrowed

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wow i love this timeline

I think Poland would be willing to aid the French in the invasion, as in out timeline Poland actually proposed a preemptive attack on Germany a few times, but the propositions were turned down by France.

Hello, does anybody know what song is playing on the background?

When Germany anunsed its territorial ambitions, Poland offered France to invade Germany in a two fronts war, but France rejected this proposal. I think you should make a video with this in the future

in that case german schools would still teach that "both world wars were germanys fault"

“Shir, meant to upload that tomorrow” - PH 2023

You should do a scenario where WW2 begins in 1938

Love to hear crisp mic quality compared to some of your earlier videos. Congrats on 100k too!

What if everything went perfect for Romania when?

My guy has to calm down, bro is grinding these videos like there is no tomorrow.

Depressing how good this timeline is, if France had acted like that. You didn't even mention the holocaust which may have been avoided despite all the antisemitism.

When people ask for more PH 13:06.

What is with the echo at the end?

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This was a great scenario! I’m left wondering about what would have happened in the domestic politics of the Soviet Union, Germany, and the US in the 1940s and 50s without the defining event of World War 2, and also how the decolonization of India and Southeast Asia would unfold without the Asian theater of World War 2.

Am I the only one who heard an echo at the end. It was freaky but kinda cool too.

Why were there two of your voices in the outro

Wait. Did you do the video on the viewers choose ww1?

You’re like the one alt history guy on here that doesn’t treat materialist views of history with revulsion, a candle in the darkness.

But wouldn't/shouldn't this start earlier? Like not accepting the young plan and continued occupation of the Rheinland?

The No-no Germans really just should have stopped expanding after annexing Czechia.

Does anybody know what the song is in 1:58?

Somehow I don't see this scenario often

i thought i was tripping at the end lmao

I’m gonna try this in HOI4 in a 1933 start date.

Can you do more viewers vote videos

Fun fact: Poland wanted to invade Germany and the Piłsudzki called French president to attack them from the west and Poland will attack from the east and French president respondent by laughting

hey PH, I was wondering if you could do a if everything went perfect for Austria Hungary/Austrian empire

Day 2 of asking for what if everything went perfect for the ottomans

when does history 2 start

I recon the french could’ve got the Czechs and poles to join. Promise future safety for the Czechs and polish Silesia to Poland.

Cool

As a Pole I believe Poland wouldn't "just" look at it from the East

And kids... That's why you don't procrastinate !

in 1935 Poland wanted to convince france to preemptively strike germany, so i'm certain that poles would get themselves involved in this scenario somehow

Alternative history ideas 1. What if the British didn't detain German ships during the boer war? 2. What if Churchill won the election after ww2 3. What if the USA maid the Soviets pay for aid during ww2 4. What if the USA didn't make Britain pay for aid during ww2 5. What if FDR didn't die during ww2

7:08 I just want to point out that here PH said that Hungary and Bulgaria were struggling with the aftermath of WWII, when it didn’t happen yet. Just to clarify, I’m only pointing this out so that PH can fix this error as soon as possible! Also, congrats on 100k🎉

While it's obviously easy to look back on events and suggest better options, we probably needed to learn the hard way that pushing off problems just makes them bigger problems further down the line. My only hope is that we would carry that lesson forward to now and make better decisions, but the relative inaction by the world after the 2014 annexation of Crimea by Russia is a perfect example of how history repeats. If the world had acted stronger then, we likely would not have the current conflict and general instability that one could liken to the 1930s. We need to deal with threats from rogue states and dictators sooner, because ignoring them doesn't mean the problem goes away.

What if everything went perfect for Mexico

Germany was caught justifying, suffering 25infamy!

What if everything went perfect for Siam/Thailand pls

If France would attac Germany in 1935 most probbably it would be the attac from both sides and Poland would join that war, which probbably would mean bigger terrotorial losses of Germany. Actually Piłsudski was one of the few leaders in Europe who saw the problem just after Hitler started to rule in Germany.

It’s insane that Germany excepted the Treaty of Versailles, a lot of countries at the time would have fought to the bone to no have that treaty.

Pls make a video "wath if every thing went perfect for romania"

It is actually similar to what happened in 1923 in the Ruhr.

When France occupied the Rhineland and the Ruhr in 1923, to secure payment from that area, the German government ordered their Population to passively resist the occupiers and told its officials to refuse commands by the French. What if the French viewed it as a breaking of Versailles, as Germany couldn't otherwise guarantee its payment, and decided to invade the Weimar Republic alltogether, if they don't allow the French to do as they please. Is this scenario realistic? No, absolutely not. Do I want to See what happens if that scenario were to happen? Still yes.

I wonder what would happen if restrictions on tank production led to the Germans building mechs as a loophole to remilitarize. I'm pretty sure the Germans had such advanced rocket technology because of the Versailles treaty not targeting rockets. BTW, this is my best explanation for how mechs could come about considering their inferiority to tanks. I'd make a reddit post, but I'm banned and I don't want to make another account.

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Ain’t no way did I see “What if Pokémon were real?” on the upcoming videos log… holy shit

I find it doubtful that France would have this level of success. Armies apart from each other, they also fight the war on logistics. Not to mention popular, governmental and military support. We all know that even 5 years later (although they failed to prepare much), France's army was at a really bad state for various reasons. Also, do you really believe Hitler would go for a peace deal after being invaded by France? He would probably push for massive conscription and given the situation, he would likely meet with little resistance if not enthusiastic support from the German people. This would fit his narrative 100%. I see the situation going as follows. France pushes up to a point, say the Rhine, where German mobilization, logistics issues and resistance movements bring the war to a standstill. Given the mindset of the French leadership, this would probably devolve into a WW1-type war with shelling across the river and little to no gains from either side. But France is a ticking timebomb: the Popular front's popularity probably explodes even more in this timeline, the colonies are in an uproar and perhaps even in the military there is dissatisfaction both from young recruits taking the brunt of the force as well as older higher-ups who see this as a repeat of 1914. Either from the French government collapsing or Germans starting to push back, eventually the war ends with no territory changing hands. Perhaps the point this would happen would be when Germans push the French back into their territory, with some losses. Under diplomatic pressure, the Germans agree to a ceasefire, with terms very favorable for them. Essentially all Versailles constraints on rearmament are lifted, which were already de facto were since Germans claimed they were simply defending their homeland. Germany and France recognize the sovereignty of the other nation in their respective territory, with Hitler doing so begrudgingly since this means recognizing Alsace-Lorraine as French land. Germany also joins the next naval treaty (Third London Naval Treaty?) where the British make sure they are very limited in terms of naval development. This is an obvious win for the UK, ensuring dominance in Europe and a divided continent for the foreseeable future. France is reeling, perhaps even losing some colonies much earlier, facing great internal unrest and having no desire to join any wars for the decades to come. This leaves the Germans, which in my opinion, leads to an even worse outcome than in our timeline. The Nazis now have an unlimited propaganda well to draw from, a mass mobilization already going and remilitarization. But more importantly, France declines to join any further conflict, eliminating completely any western front. Assuming the situation proceeds as on our timeline, with the Nazis trying to secure any land containing German-speaking minorities. Perhaps the UK declares once Poland is invaded, as in our timeline, but with the smaller front, a land invasion is out of the question. Italy is the wildcard in the scenario, since it could serve either as a useful ally to the Germans (and perhaps due to the German-French war they actually bother to militarize somewhat) or they become the soft underbelly with an invasion proceeding from the south, probably with a lot more casualties due to the terrain.

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