That video description needs some clearing up; ' ..97% of their land through trickery and violence' . . . where are the examples of men just getting along and getting stuff done? The maori language was transcribed for the first time, medicines were exchanged, herbs and roots were added to a common diet. Women were given the vote before the turn of that century, clothing was traded as well as tools and weapons. . . "People at the ends of the earth have always found a little something to get them sideways, just to cope ..." Billy Connelly
@@SiliconBong as a kiwi that's the narrative everyones taught the what would be the point of a video like that? nothing in the video untrue the majority of pakeha are happy believing the bs narrative white people came to land and Maori offer the entire country for a couple blankets
@@jamesstowers1406 Hold on tiger, i'm not ignoring the land wars and shitawful attitudes that the social studies textbooks politely ignore, i'm just saying it wasn't always vietnam with muskets.
Europeans are also the native people of the world. War and conquest has been a part of human history since the beginning. Everyone participated in it, some just got the better of themselves and won
if the brits didnt turn up in nz it would still be an underdeveloped bck water like the rest of the pacific. Hawaii is a pretty prosperous place too... i wonder y?
Natural evolution determined that European people had advance far ahead of the rest of the world in technology and they used this advantage to improve their situation . Just evolution when you boil it all down .
As a Samoan born and raised in aotearoa my heart goes out to my Polynesian Maori family for their fight for their land! Samoa also went through battles with the crown and it makes me think what if Samoa was the size of New Zealand or Australia?
Err so exactly how big do you think England is?🤔......in the UK, generally, there is a certain amount of respectful admiration for the Maori ,Samoan and Polynesian cultures ,that stems from their adherence to the warrior code societies they espoused. Kind of like the recognition of a kindred spirit. So it's slightly surprising to find the amount of cultural karens complaining to the manager when they got a watered down serving of what they were happily dishing out to the world before the British arrived. Is the law of conquest only virtuous when it served up your victories?...it's pretty weak to abandon the bedrock of your own cultural convictions when they don't serve your advantage imo. And let's be honest,the British empire was admittedly harsh, avaricious, invasive and when necessary brutally tyrannical, until they're compared with every single contemporary and preceding empire in human history, it's worth remembering that the British method was infinitely less extreme than the more genocidey, bloodthirsty, decapitatey and sometimes even eaty forms of colonialism widely practiced at the time. Which is evinced in the fact that their cultures still exist today in relatively large populations....as the Europeans say " live by the sword,die by the sword " .....I believe the colloquial term is " don't hate the playa....etc "?
@@vailima49aston99 England was colonised by the Romans, the Vikings and the Normans. They were also bombed to smithereens by the Germans. Guess what?? They don't whine about it every day and get on with life. Fancy that !
Thank you our Samoan whanaunga for your support ànd acknowledgement of our grievances from our past and pray the day colonial ideals will extinguish and our way of life shall flourish and restore harmony back to the Earth
This narrative is erroneous and why we have a racial crisis in NZ right now, the wrongs have been committed by rebel tribalist Maori from the start and still are people around the world have no clue what is happening here.
@@SamYoungnz learning......meaning to be more brutal? How many Generations people have to suffer in the name of learning to be more BRUTAL? You have conquered most countries on earth, pillaged all their treasures, use them as slaves, and now still learning? I hope that one day someone will use you as a learning tool.
As long as iwi operate as companies and trusts the Crown keeps durastriction over Maori sovereignty by making hapu a corporate fiction subject to the company's and trusts act, therefore ceeding Maori independence becomes impossible and land can't be lived on because the trust is more concerned about solvency within the Crown rather than sovereignty within Maori
Maori culture is fascinating, without it NZ is just a copy of Britain sans the history. Much support to our Maori friends from Croatia, brothers from a far away land.
@Banned 6 Times And you think cars and alcohol are a positive contribution to society? Cars that emit harmful fossil fuels that are destroying our planet and alcohol which is the leading cause of many social and economic ills? Maybe you need to read what the first Europeans wrote about the Maori people. The most physically aesthetic and healthy people they had seen.
@Banned 6 Times Here comes the another unintelligent racist to spill the same regurgitated talking point. What use is a wheel, when New Zealand was not home to any large terrestrial mammals prior to the arrival of the Europeans?
@@charnz3495 kiwi here. That's basically it just respect and listen. As a white NZer basically it's in our own best interest to raise the Maori standard of living. There's various ways of doing that. We're not perfect it's going to take generations.
lots of hate towards māori in these comments. lots of whataboutisms. lots of england wasn’t the first. …people in *police, politics, healthcare, education, banking, retail and many others jobs all harbour the same attitude, and that’s why aotearoa will not be able to move forward without struggle. land was stolen, culture was crushed. responsibility is with the crown, the church and the new zealand government. aotearoa is māori lands. māori aren’t calling for genocide, nor are they trying to crush english culture, they’re asking to survive and have a thriving culture on their lands, *lands that were stolen and now need to be shared in a way that respects the te reo treaty.
This completly inaccurate. Balme for their plight is entirley their own fault. they choose to commit the crimes, they choose to KFC and Macdonalds. This a completly wrong histrorically. The word Aotearoa was invented by a white fictional writer. They were slaughtering each other and dying from TB. this is junk.
indeed, Europe is very overpopulated, people literally live on top of each other. We need to be aloud to follow their culture that is to say live of off nature. We have a right to expand to.
Turkey should pay reparations to Albania, Greece, Bulgaria, and other Balkan nations. Mongolia should pay reparations to half of Asia. Moroccans & Algerians should pay reparations to Spain. Germany should pay reparations to Italy for the sack of Rome. Russia should pay reparations to Poland, Germany, Ukraine, etc. Japan should pay reparations to the Koreas, China, the Pacific, and more.
How far back are we counting? Do you include the multiple waves of colonisation and conquest that happened on the British isles, should the French pay the British? The scandaniavins?
Hmmm 🤔 sound about white. Hawai’i has the same issue. Thousands of natives are being displaced and no living wage. USA is selling off native land to the rich. They also tried to get rid of the Hawaiian language and did over throw the Queen Liliʻuokalani. Please do a video on the Hawaiian Kingdom and Democratic Party of Hawaii that tried to save Hawaii from Dole taking over
@Hernando Malinche Obviously you’re sensitive to the truth. Please read up on the history and educated yourself before commenting. Natives don’t sell their land the u.s sells it off 🤦🏽♀️
May I also add: Americans banned the Hula, Hawaiian language, art and healing practices & stole land. All this in order for a pineapple colonizer and sugar cane missionaries can profit off the land and use people on the plantation. Dole also became governor. Tale as old as time!
@Hernando Malinche Ignorance is Bliss. I sympathize with your brain wash and deflated ego. You can’t argue with stupidity when truth and facts are being classified as “hip” The annexation of Hawai’i was lobbied by dole and dozens of other white counter parts. We didn’t need America, they needed HAWAI’I Once again go back to the books and documents to educate yourself. Thank you from your fellow Hawaiian
Always room for improvement! But yes, compared with other countries where indigenous people were subjugated and their lands confiscated (ie the USA, Canada, Australia, the whole of South and Central America), New Zealand is a beacon of hope for indigenous rights around the world.
@@am7016 it's their land, your people were to weak and incapacitated to hold it. That's how it works, loser. Don't think for a second you wouldn't love to take land, if you had the strength for it, which you don't.
I am going to take a different approach at this colonization and say that the British crown and Pakeha settlers as well as Maori, are very lucky to have each other. And, because some of you go back to our cheifs and tribes of confederate to paramount/Tino Rangatiratanga, and some of us Maori, go back to the royal blue blood and some of us, have grandfathers that were apart of the Knights of the royal round table.
You’re right about that, without colonisation NZ wouldn’t be the developed country it is today, it would be another impoverished third world nation like the rest of Polynesia.
11:00: while we're on the subject of Ngai Tahu, why don't they ask for the land around Nelson back from from the Ngati Toa, that Te Rauparaha and his men took from them in the 1820s for similar reasons as to why Europeans took it.
the only crime was that they didnt bring civility and order to the isles quickly enough. maybe we could have avoided all the intertribal massacres and the racial extinction of moriori
Bring Civility? Millions of people died either through introduced diseases or they were massacred at the hands of the British, and by the way the Moriori are a tribe of Māori who are still alive and well today, and as for stopping the intertribal massacres go and read about the atrocities committed in other countries they colonised. In North Australia early settlers once buried aboriginal babies up to their necks and had competitions to see who could kick their heads off. Indigenous peoples were better off without them.
Why isn't the musket wars mentioned and the French?? Utu transformed Aotearoa during 30 years of Iwi conflict and many many died. This must of had been a part of signing the treaty? The complexity of 1840 should be looked in more detail
I’m glad that New Zealand recognised 35 years ago the importance of reparations to the Maori nation. I’m sure if you were white and were occupied by a “foreign” nation you would want exactly the same. It’s a shame Australia, Canada and America hasn’t done the same!
@@rosbaldiston7979 There may not have been a single nation but there were many Māori Iwi that can be considered as nations, and they are receiving some reparations although the amounts are minimal. White New Zealanders should be ashamed in their attempts to diminish the actions of their ancestors and the harm they caused tangata whenua. and the continuing harm that is ongoing through racist policies that target Māori unfairly.
@George Orwell I find it interesting that you label me a victim seeking to blame others for my situation. I think this merely highlights denial on your part that injustice and harm have been and are ongoing significant issues for Māori and other groups of people. Injustice and harm can be addressed and repaired but only by those groups who perpetrate these situations and requires these groups to relinquish their protected advantages over others. This can be a hard process and often instead of taking these steps many within these dominant groups label the 'outsiders' or 'others' as self-proclaimed victims. This downgrades their level of humanity and allows those protecting their own status to justify the unjustifiable while re-enforcing the original injustice and harm by creating and replicating the situation with new types of injustice and harm. As for me, as a member of the dominant group, i.e, a White New Zealander I do not need someone to blame for my situation. Instead, I am very aware of the injustice and harm in New Zealand society that particularly impacts Māori and I wish to acknowledge that situation in an attempt to change the dynamics of New Zealand society to right the injustice and harm and create an equitable society both in the present and the future.
@George Orwell Certain groups have greater capacity than others to cause harm. When a group dominates the government, the economy, the education system, the judicial system, they have a greater capacity to create a society that reflects their cultural, social, religious moral, and economic values to the exclusion of all others. This benefits their members as they already know how to navigate these values, while other groups in the society may be less able to. This creates a societal structure that creates barriers for others while normalising these expectations and making them appear universal to all while they still exclude all put the dominant group. Through this process biases both implicit and otherwise from dominant groups members in positions of power reinforce this division and further marginalise those who are not members of the dominant group. This becomes a self perpetuating cycle and maintains the hegemony of the dominant group over all other groups. History shows us more obvious examples such as the slavery of African Americans, the economic, cultural, and political oppression of women, the exclusion, marginalisation, and criminalisation of the LGBTQI community, are a few examples. These three groups still face societal, political, and economic discrimination today, although this occurs through a less visible framework than in the past and is obscured by the development and promotion of an equality framework. Equality denotes that everyone can achieve things in a society as there is no bar on anyone achieving for instance a PhD, a political office, or the right to marry. This equality framework completely ignores any structural barrier that restricts members of marginalised groups achieving this equality. This is why equity is important, equity recognises structural barriers and takes them into account, things like university student allowances for children from poorer families, or affordable government funded childcare for working mothers. or government financial support for those with medical issues that prevent them working, or fully funded government health care so no citizen dies from a curable medical condition So far from being dangerous equity is the key component to creating a fairer more inclusive society that creates a shared solidarity amongst those who comprise its members and fosters understanding, acceptance, and respect. Greater equity will lower poverty, increase wellbeing, and produce a stable, safe, and strong society/
@George Orwell @George Orwell The version of communism practised in large areas of the world was not in reality a true version of communism, it can more correctly be defined as a totalitarian version of socialism with a ruling elite class that attempted to control and subjugate the masses. The current neo-liberal model of capitalism is in some respects similar to totalitarian socialism, in that a wealthy elite subjugate and control the masses using disinformation, and misinformation, and by also lowering wages to poverty levels with a welfare safenet well below poverty levels in order to ensure people need to undertake precarious employment with little rights, earning wages that don not cover housing, food, and other living expenses. This requires individuals to undertake second and even third jobs. This is why equity is necessary to restore living standards for the poorest and to mitigate the corporate greed of the executive class. As for your assertion that equity is dangerous, I find that a little perplexing. If we examine the five nations most renowned for this style of approach we find Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Finland, and Iceland. They all are amongst the nations with the highest populations levels of wellbeing and happiness, they also have amongst the longest life expectancy, they have much lower levels of inequality than most nations,They have high employment levels, high social welfare benefits, they have affordable health care and education, including university, they are also amongst the easiest nations in the world to create and operate a business. On all these measures they are ahead of neo-[liberal capitalist nations such the USA. No one in these nations would consider themselves as communist states, nor would they use the word dangerous to describe their social and economic system as communist. From my perspective the most daner and structural violence comes from allowing entrenched vales and norms of dominant groups that advantage those groups at the expense of all others, and measure value solely through the accumulation of wealth, while undervaluing fairness and respect for all human beings regardless of their starting position in the social hierarchy and examine all the non-monetary value that a great deal of poor and working-class individuals create in our society.
I'd offer a fresh perspective. As NZ'er european, we're all as equally dispossessed from our history. My family have come here in the 50's. In the last 100 years we've all faced new people coming here. But given the maori hate white people, here's something they don't know. Most of us knew nothing about the crowns dealings. We came Herr for better lives. Like maori, we lost our languages and cultures. My grandparents are Dutch and none of us can speak it. When a colony happens, culture is homogenised. The natives assumed us as white folk lost nothing. But as white person here, we lost everything. Pakeha and all subsequent immigrants had to say goodbye to their cultures to build this nation. No one wins in nation building. It's all well to point out what governments did, but you ignore the cultural poverty of the others that had to build this nation
Your ancestors the Dutch have been around trading with my ancestors and so forth, up North since the 1700's, and maybe well before then. It's a preposterous assertion to say Maori hate white people, i speak on my behalf when I say I don't
My mother and father were not allowed to speak Maori at school they didn't have a choice they got punished for speaking Maori your family just Lost it there's a big difference
no country has done more in the last 50 years to recognize and elevate indigenous culture and contemporary people than nz; not to say it's perfect or enough. but you see it from the government and you see and feel it from nearly never new zealander on the ground. as an outsider that's manifestly obvious.
Well said! Population is just under 5million. And for that we are more better as one “kiwis” than being Ununited. Seeing where the world is at the moment we as kiwis want to learn to learn Te reo to make us uniquely different to the rest of the world! Our offical languages is, English, Te reo Maori and the New Zealand sign language and we are proud of this!
That doesn't mean much when you consider the crimes committed against indigenous populations over the years. And that's because they couldn't, otherwise they would have.
what sort of civilization do you think maoris had before the british got there? they had tribes, the fought each other, they cut of heads as trophies. Name a country and i can almost guarentee you if we go back far enough we'll find one group slaughtering and conquering their neighbours in order to take their stuff. stop being willfully ignorant and trying to paint half a picture
Dame Whena Cooper is a taonga (a treasure) for all of us in Aotearoa. Te Tiriti O Waitangi is now our de facto constitution, but it took over 150 years for us at a nation to start to get our act together. I think most Pakeha kiwis now realise that huge value lies in enacting the spirit of Te Tiriti, but this is still a work in progress. So worth doing, though. Stealing from other people never adds value to society.
Maori moriori were were not the first people to settle in new zealand . Waitaha and patupeiarehe were here long before maori this vidio is more government propaganda
if you go for a governemnt or health job and a maori is also competing for it but he/she isnt as qualified, they Maori gets the job, its social engineering, and if you think its ok theres something wrong with you
@Bogdanmeoff Agreed, I'm Māori myself and have studied the treaty and process of British colonization extensively. You can't make a factual assertion that the British purposefully interpreted the treaty for their own purposes. While you could make an informed guess, based-off economic and social changes the British were already trying to make prior to the signing of the treaty, that misinterpreting the treaty was in their best interest, but at the end of the day you can't read the minds of men from 180 years ago. I think people get too wrapped up in focusing on intentions when talking about colonization when in reality how the treaty came about was extremely flawed, regardless of intentions, and that's what Māori activists should stay focused on.
ahh read book in library that in 1850's auckland they found 200,000 skeletons in caves around auckland and crushed the bones too lay down queen street and central Auckland streets assumeing they were jist dead maori's then years later had a forensic examination of bones that were lifted when they tar sealed the streets and found out the skeletons belonged to a white race/ breed.
Because the land was uninhabited and colonized by Māori, who were once people of the Pacific. Their language and culture became distinct from that of their Polynesian ancestors, which had developed during their 500 years of colonization.
This treaty was voided long ago. Dunno why they think its still valid. Its peace treaty. Yet Maori attacked our families and the gov sat on their hands so the people had to form militias. To protect local Maori also. The US were busy stoke the fire to push the British like they did in India.
The thing with trying to settle any colonial wrongs with Maori, is that its never ending. They keep coming back fro more. They with 17% or less of the New Zealand population want to control the whole country through what they are now calling Co-Goverance. Any one with even a 16th or less of maori blood can claim to be or feel maori.
??? The first king of the Anglo Saxons was a Briton: Cerdic The indigenous population was massacred by the Roman Empire, not the Anglo-Saxons. That was just straight up land grabbing from all of Europe.
Ok so how you going to sort out who's Maori and who's Not most are mixed blood and even some who have mixed blood don't want to be ruled by there own rules, so cant see that working.
You will note the white women referring to herself as Maori at 1 minute in is no where NEAR 50% Maori, she insults her other ancestor by cherry picking like this, but she is after $$$ so who cares I guess. She also forgot to mention Maori murdering themselves and boiling the heads of their enemies, funny that!
@@kenloomes2941 When filling out any documents asking for ethnicity if you put Maori you need to put down Iwi (tribe), your river and mountain you are born to. Also the 1 drop rule.
@@PHlophe What about Maori now has anything to do with Maori then?? If we play it that way are they all going to jail for their people breach the treaty since day 1????
One of the challenges we face in Canada is that there are so many First Nations as well as Inuit peoples. So this complexity means the status quo just keeps limping along.
@@interviewcrackersganesha7686 The white man's excuse: but we civilized them! Dogs of the Inuit were slaughtered just like the bisons, children of natives were taken away from their parents to make them "civilized", dreadlocks were cut off, effectively putting a leash on the neck. I wonder if these 300 buried children were also part of the "civilization" process.
You reap as you sow. When you attack the culture and language the atrocities will always be remembered. The axe may have forgotten but not the trees. Hand over the land and moveaway let them rule them selves. How do yo feel if Britain is occupied by France/Germany and your are forced to speak French/German ?
The were not called Maori, when the Europeans. And they sold their land wilingly, Maori are in jail by a high percentage due to the fact that commit crime 7 times more than Europeans and other races in NZ. It was no called Aoteoroa when the Europeans arrived. They gave it the name if New Zealand and New Munster.
Racism is still I thing in New Zealand, I was at the market a few months ago and when I was there A Maori woman said I was not A New Zealander because I am not a child of the land, also I have a friend that was walking through the streets of Auckland and when he was walking a man walked up to him and said to him that he would go back to his own country.
Racism in New Zealand only exists to people of color because they’re the ones being oppressed, facing inequality since the signing of the treaty, and our pacific island brothers and sisters have had it since the dawn raids. That’s actual racism
I live in California, USA our state just voted and won to enact a commission to enact a bill to pay reparations to black people. Recently a 200 million $$ beach front part was awarded to a famous black family from a long time ago that once had a beach club for black ppl bc they were not aloud at other beaches. Super fcked up, but it seems we might get a little part of it right after all. That said I think the federal government should be doing the reparations part.
Only problem saying your tribe is wealthy members don't get any yearly dividends only select few at top ceo etc who make money was one small tribe who lost all there settlement money thru bad investments then turned around wanted money all over again
And, if Pakeha had not come we would not have the same initiatives today, so I believe...Any way I am thankful that my koro's manage to succeed back to their lands like it should be so, and that some of us, know how' to do the right thing by, the people.
"New Zealand’s indigenous people, the Maori, were guaranteed equality when they signed a treaty with the British Crown in 1840"... Equality is not a one way street, and has to work both ways in order to exist. Discrimination cannot be eliminated by separatism, and separatism cannot create equality. After 180 years of cultural co-existence, isn't it time to end the perpetual grieving and claim of entitlement? How can a nation heal its wounds of past wrongs, and find unity and equality, if it is maintaining its cultural division? The entire history of humanity is littered with injustices. To simply turn the tables on apartheid is counter-productive to what is allegedly the goal: cultural equality, and the elimination of discrimination.
Because it a scam. The treaty was meant to be ripped up. The 1967 New Zealand gov was replacing the UK with an actual NZ gov. They need send their problems to the UK not their own family
This happened in every corner of the world and to every race of people in the world...do you think there weren't invasions, conquests, slavery in Africa, North/South America, and throughout the world 500-1500+ years ago. Do you think Genghis Khan worried about reparations? We often look at the world as though only certain groups carried out these actions...when it was very common throughout the world's history...and like it or not part of our human story from the very beginning.
very true, as demonstrated by the origins of the work 'Slave' which derives from the word 'Slavic'. The Eastern European Slavic population suffered the abuse of the Spanish Muslim community in the ninth century.
False equivalency and obfuscation. Not in africa outside zulu tribe. And no where near as bad as western / European and Middle Eastern/Muslim approach. I don’t know much about eastern non European/ Muslim wares. But what I do know their culture and peoples weren’t completely wiped out. And don’t complain about it like or react it was anywhere as bad.
Surely you don’t mind it happening to you your family and ethnicity then if it’s ok for other people without redress apology or excuse. The standard you hold have to be also applied to yourself.
Ghengis didn’t keep people down. He was just on a rampage. Because China shut his Mongol people out of their civilisation. Ans didn’t want to let them in and weren’t particularly nice. It wasn’t that deep or people kept oppressed in inter generational poverty. And less then they started. Just a passing battle.
The fault of the colonial English was that they disregarded the treaty by taking the land by pakeha law and not protecting maori interest as set out in the treaty,,,, the maori prior to 1835 owned 100% of new zealand after the signing of the treaty they owned only 8% by 1922
Maori or specifically Tamati Waka Nene wanted and needed to become part of the British Empire so that they could trade with the Australian peoples without tariffs so hence the creating of the Treaty. My question is ; why would 125,000 Maori need or want British to help them when most Maori knew nothing of what was happening in Russell let alone being affected by it.? Could it be a case of Nene and Busby actually signing the treaty themselves and getting what they wanted without any tribes outside of the upper North Island knowing? That I think is more likely than 500 chiefs signing the Treaty. Those that did not sign was because they weren’t thought of by Busby and Nene.
I don't want the pakehas guilty Remorse I only want their brotherhood. As Whina once said" better to marry the buggars and make them whanau. THEN they might understand us".
1835 the declaration of independence was first the Maori version of the 1840 treaty was next & reaffirmed the 1835 declaration the bastardized English version of the treaty came a year or so after that, was the one the government conveniently recognised giving themselves complete control.
No Māori are not the only indigenous people in the islands of NZ . In the Chattam islands the Moriori are the native people , they're a related Polynesian people but they are not Māori .One of the worst was the tohonga act which outlawed traditional Maori priests and cultural practitioners .NZ in the 1970s 80s was all so a very homophobic society .
We have alot of land in the north island but I don't think I would want to evet live back there. The 80s is well and truly over. Not the same place at all sadly.
I fail to see how finite beings can own anything other than their own thoughts. The Kaitiaki concept supports this idea. How can people own something that was there before people?
This is very inaccurate. Tribalism and competition between tribes was fiercely contested and it is very disingenuous to claim that united and lawful society existed before colonialism. That is fantasy.
Hmmm. Interesting observations. May be a step forward for all split countries. Just really wonder how much we project our current values onto people's values in the past and making reparations based on that gap. Economies and cultures continue to move forward and this Country has found a way which may be less contentious than others, to make for a peaceful resolution.
"... through trickery and violence" that says it all. Anywhere they went that's exactly what European colonizers did. Even to this day although the days of European colonies and Imperialism are long gone, you don't need to look hard to find examples of the same. The biggest example is what happened to Iraq and that whole WMD fiasco.
@@pissiole5654 Awful. Maori held slaves, they were cannibals, they were consistently fighting and genociding each other's tribes. They had not even discovered the wheel.
If the role was reversed, Say African or Mario were the Colonizers they would've done the exact same. Maori are not natives to their lands, as well as African, Europeans and Asians. Survival of the Fittest
