How NOT to Buy a Dump trailer! RED FLAGS & how Cheap Trailers CUT Quality pt 1/2 . 4 k video

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With so many options & different prices Buying a Dump Trailer can be confusing. We look at 3 different hoist systems, scissor, Dual & telescopic plus compare quality and show how Cheap trailer manufacturers cut quality. This is a 2 part series.
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@Dev_Everything 2 года назад

This 17minute commercial could have been summarized in 30 seconds. "You get what you pay for", "Keep it under 26k pounds unless you have a class A"

@gmilla2825 9 месяцев назад

Thanks. I’m on to the next one ✌️

@IYar56 4 месяца назад

I have a fast forward. If I don't want to get ajab I can skip it.

@Ricardargas-dy9tf 2 месяца назад

Great. Awesome comment. Saved myself a little of time

@aj12271 5 лет назад

Stan... love the videos for the most part. Have to say though, the first 5 mins of this video is you saying same thing over & over in your intro. Just cut the BS & get to the meat of the video.

@EuroYardService 5 лет назад

This is called a teaser 😜

@JohnR9965 5 лет назад

aj12271 all of us are not slow comprehenders. 🤣🤣

@Dirtmonkey 5 лет назад

Thanks for the feedback, it helps !

@mikefederico9875 4 года назад

andy why are you being a Penis ! Stan is a good guy, i guess you are a know it all ! lol Merry Christmas

@larrylucas5731 3 года назад

I know that's right!!! (I was thinking the same thing)

@realworldcarpentryremodeli5868 5 лет назад

I’m 3 minutes in and all ive heard so far is what you’re going to talk about. When do you get to it . Ughh you just said you weren’t going to waste anymore time and you’re still talking about nothing!!!!!!

@jamest3597 4 года назад

15 min in and still saying it

@maverickgood5204 4 года назад

I was hoping to hear about the three trailers he had there and how much they cost and the differences.

@trueindeed1569 3 года назад

Lol

@Kevin-lm9ex 4 года назад

I feel like RU-vid has taught me so much more than school ever did. I am basically the you tune good will hunting

@Dirtmonkey 4 года назад

That's awesome Kevin, glad to have you here !

@williammcknight5419 4 года назад

I feel exact same. Literally can learn anything

@chucksmith9772 3 года назад

You tune......nice!

@freddysoriano6058 3 года назад

it’s cause it has

@jakei5033 3 года назад

Seriously you can fix your truck, cook a gourmet meal, start an online business, or do your homework, its seriously as good as if gets. This makes me think how did they survive before google maps and RU-vid 😂😂😂💯

@Rooftopmatty 5 лет назад

Obviously you have no clue what you are talking about if you are saying a sure trac is a good trailer, they are one of the worst and cheapest built trailers on the market, I’d never purchase one of them ever

@justinglock20 4 года назад

Two words. Agricultural exemption.

@S_man89 4 года назад

Class B is the actual cdl requirement. If your hauling with an endorsement for more than 60,000+ lbs then you need a class A.

@codyg7936 3 года назад

@@S_man89 that is incorrect, as the law reads, any trailer with a gvwr of 10,001 lbs or more requires a Class A CDL. Class B is for single Vehicles Gvwr over 26,001 lbs IE: Dumptruck, Box Truck, think tandem axle trucks and you tow a trailer up to 10,000 lbs or less gvwr, Class C is for transporting people or materials commercially in a vehicle with a gvwr of 26,000 lbs or less and towing a trailer with a gvwr 10,000 lbs or less. A lot of people don’t know the truth and there are a lot of misconceptions out there.

@S_man89 3 года назад

@@codyg7936 yep I drive truck for a living. But it’s all the under 26,001 class. And I’m grandfathered in for my age. Not that I’m old.

@richardzacholl2152 5 лет назад

My experience is tube style frames are prone to rotting from the inside out. In upstate NY , the salt kills them. Also, with the temperature changes we experience, the insides of the tubes can condensate and lead to rot. I prefer an I beam or channel frame.

@Dirtmonkey 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing Richard and thanks for viewing

@scrapmanindustries 5 лет назад

spraying the frame with diesel fuel or used motor oil helps a lot with rust.

@TRX450RVlogger 5 лет назад

Richard Zacholl i farted once

@kubotaman3440 5 лет назад

Same thing happens here in Maine between the liquid calcium in the salt

@MichaelDillin 4 года назад

Interesting point.

@Dan-oz4qb 4 года назад

This is like a six month date for a hand job. Could have finished in five minutes if they just got to it.

@FishFind3000 5 лет назад

You can buy a bigger better trailer and have the manufacture under rate it so your at the legal limit.

@JT-qf4it 3 года назад

DOT just has to weight it. Doesn't work

@justanbaker8937 2 года назад

@@JT-qf4it not true

@IYar56 4 месяца назад

Do you trust the government?

@charlesc1122 5 лет назад

Where I live as long as you are using a pickup truck & trailer or even a semi & trailer in direct use for farming your own crops you do not need a class a or a physical to drive them.

@waynemizer4912 3 года назад

Agreed. There is much misinformation and missing information in this video.

@milesbunn8004 2 года назад

In NC you only need a class A license if over 26k GVWR, if you are not in commerce (for hire/CDL). Class A drivers license only requires you to take the safety portion of a CDL test. Other than that it's the same license as a class C. If the towing vehicle is licensed for farm use you are also exempt.

@michaeldankert1962 8 месяцев назад

In Michigan we have to go get a (F) endorsement on our license, then we can drive/haul anything in farming operations, as well as can your family/farm employees. The F endorsement requires a 60 question written exam with no driving test. Just FYI, the Secretary of State didn't even know the type F endorsement even existed until she looked it up. Lol

@joelstanhope7231 5 лет назад

It would a lot better if you stop asking the questions and interrupt when the rep trys to answer . I have a class A and you are confused about many things. People should talk to dealer without the interruptions

@nocoolname32 4 года назад

rules change state by state, but are more in line when you start crossing state lines. im sure most of us have heard the craziness that CA has implemented in their CDLs for private citizens. here in ND, (without crossing state lines) i can drive a truck up to 26K and pull a trailer up to 10K and not need a CDL. But our neighboring state of MN has different rules.

@charlesbourgeois9029 4 года назад

Same in CT 26,001gvw on truck requires class b 25,900 truck can pull 9,900 trailer with no cdl however 9,900 truck can pull 16,900 trailer. We went with b wise 15400 gvw trailers for some applications however I think sure trac and pj and maybe cam are better idk it's all very confusing and everyone has an opinion just like we all have a you know what! -Charles Bourgeois Down to Earth Landscaping LLC Lebanon, CT

@hphillips7425 3 года назад

Joel Stanhope good point I agree. I don’t watch much of his videos after he demo a skag zero turn mower and was banned by the skag representative because he was running the mower hard in reverse then forward to pop the front wheels off the ground

@tird108 2 года назад

Damn he did that

@moparposi25 5 лет назад

Having worked at a trailer shop i would never trust sure trac ive seen too many broken frames and broken gooseneck arches and can verify the trailers were under maximum weight load

@flash1259 5 лет назад

What do you think about Big Tex gooseneck dump trailers? I've got the 14' 14 GX. I've only used it a few times. After pulling RV's and gooseneck trailers over half the U.S. I prefer to stick with gooseneck for my dump trailer. I pull it with a 2012 Dodge Ram 3500 diesel crew cab 4x4 so I'm not worried about the tow vehicle. I also have class A license even though I don't need it. It's a left over from when I did need it.

@motorsports1116 4 года назад

I have looked over sure-trac and they was for the most part the bottom of the barrel for many years. I'm hoping they improved but they where the standard to junk

@machaf 3 года назад

Might want to mention that all those weight ratings for DOT apply to commercial operations (operations for hire), not personal. And each state has its own rules as well.

@Gravelbomber 3 года назад

Exactly what I was going to say. Not sure about other states, but in Illinois, you have to have a CDL for anything over 16,001 lbs gvw, but can be exempted from the medical certification for personal use, as long as it's not being used commercially.

@geoffwhittier6866 3 года назад

Exactly. The statements made in the video DO NOT specify this so it's misleading. If it's for personal use and you aren't a business? Don't worry unless you exceed 26,000 lbs

@liamslegolab5339 2 года назад

Watching the video like none of this is true for private use… lol

@67_PowerStroke Год назад

@@geoffwhittier6866 95% of people buying these dump trailers are for business use.

@fozzybear9114 11 месяцев назад

@@67_PowerStrokewrong

@ozarkprepper1718 2 года назад

DOT needs dismantled.

@ashforkdan 3 года назад

The front single ram can only be lifted on level ground or it WILL BREAK.

@galehess6676 3 года назад

or backing straight downhill with no twist side to side, unlikely to find a spot level side to side and only sloping away, but could work, so there is no sideways twist in the trailer frame, and the ram

@SkratchingCatRecords 3 года назад

Good point!

@bigj9866 3 года назад

Then how come the majority of all dump trucks run the single front ram? I haven’t seen too many flat and level construction sites where these are being used without breaking the ram. I have seen trucks tip over from uneven ground, but never a broken ram.

@thomas25082 3 года назад

@@bigj9866 I seen it at a james Hardie siite

@kevinbooher7574 4 года назад

Stopped watching when I realized this dude is wearing a sock on his arm.

@zzcoool 4 года назад

DOT, DOT, DOT. Just get a J endorsement, that way you can run any weight trailer as long as you are under 26,000 lbs truck and trailer combined. So Ram 3500 that can pull 15,000lbs with a J endorsement is 100% legal. truck is 8,000lbs and trailer 15,000lbs, 23,000lbs is still legal and don't need CDL as long as you are under GCVWR and 26,000lbs

@jamesbadey7312 3 года назад

How do you get a j endorsement

@haroldwhite7202 2 года назад

In Michigan I hear if it's for personal use it does not apply

@michaelmoten5916 3 года назад

DOT applies to "Interstate Commerce", this doesn't necessarily apply to a homeowner. Most trailer manufacturers will sell you a heavier duty trailer, example 8,000 pound axles, and will de-rate them to keep you below the 26,000 pound weight limit.

@jasongrinnell1986 10 месяцев назад

DOT will pull you over just the same.

@justinvoisine8750 4 года назад

Sure Trac dump trailers are awesome, dont care what anyone says. Tortured mine wayyyyyy overloaded on terrain you couldnt pass a pickup on for an entire summer. I had it hooked to a tractor and had very hard time pulling it and dragging it through places it shouldnt of been. Performs flawlessly and looks new after several maine winters and thousands of dump cycles.

@grassmankzoo1216 5 лет назад

The dump angle of it is very important too

@Cbow406 3 года назад

Yep if that single ram one doesn't going any higher it seems about useless

@imbrandon16 3 месяца назад

@@Cbow406shit goes almost straight up and down they go really high, it has multiple tubes in tubes lol

@groofromtheup5719 4 года назад

Pushing the 26k barrier need not be the hassle you are making it out to be. 1) a VAST majority, if not all, of 3/4 tons can haul a 16k trailer without breaking the 26k barrier. Some 1 tons can as well. 2) if buying new, have it down-rated. If you have a 10,100 GVWR truck, instead of limiting your self to a 14 trailer, get a 16k trailer and have it down-rated from the manufacturer if buying new. That will give you the heavier duty axle, tires and frame without breaking the 26k barrier. Just don't haul over the rated value on the road. I had my trailer manufacturer rate my enclosed 10k trailer to 9,990 lbs on the manufacturer's tag, to keep it under 10k. In retrospect, I am not sure what I gained other than skipping the reflective tape on the side, but all I lost was 10lbs of legal payload and a minute on the phone. On the other hand, if like the example above, you are only pushing the CDL-A barrier by 100 lbs, you could have a whole lot more of an impact. Asking the mfg to put a lower number on the paperwork and ID plate is an easy way around it.

@jasongrinnell1986 10 месяцев назад

If I had a 10,100 GVWR truck I would get a 15,900 GVWR trailer to have a GCVWR of 26,000. This is legal all day long unless you are registered in Comufornia.

@codyg7936 3 года назад

This video Is full of DOT misconceptions.

@41crow 3 года назад

I think so too. This video raises concerns and overly stresses about needing a CDL if your GVWR is above the limit. Everyone I have talked to about it just roll their eyes. I was told the highway patrol does not care about what your weight could be they care about what your weight is.

@codyg7936 3 года назад

@@41crow each officer has their own discretion. As the law states and what your insurance may or probably won’t cover if your trailer gvwr is over 10k lbs and you don’t have a class A cdl you’re in for a rude awakening if anything happens. It doesn’t matter what kind of trailer or tow vehicle you’re using, if the trailer gvwr is over 10k lbs you need a Class A CDL, that’s what the law states. Salesmen are trying to make a sale and I know what happens out there and I’m saying it’s not right, the law as written is what will get you in trouble in court my friend.

@41crow 3 года назад

@@codyg7936 Your statement is not entirely true. It does matter what kind of trailer you are hauling, RV's have exemptions (if we are being pedantic) I have talked with several people that haul dump trailers and a professional truck driver CDL and they have all just smirked when asked this question. So just buy an overbuilt trailer and have the manufacture slap a 10k GVWR on it.

@codyg7936 3 года назад

@@41crow that’s terrible advice for someone, the federal law has no exemption for an rv, certain states have non commercial classed driver licenses and are very few. You’re saying to get a 16k trailer down rated to 10k and still put 5+tons of payload in it, if someone hits you, and you don’t have the have the right credentials you’re breaking the law and your insurance company doesn’t have to cover ANYTHING if you don’t have the right license and coverage. There’s a lot of liability being thrown around, don’t let it fall on you. I’m giving out the facts and recommending from my own experience, I too was a professional truck driver (Owner/operator), I’ve spent some time with Dot officers on the side of the road and every time they couldn’t find anything wrong with truck or trailer. The law is the law, follow it for your state and get the right license/insurance so that you don’t have to worry about losing your business or freedom (prison) because of trying to beat the system. The moment people hear commercial vehicle they see $$$, especially if they can pin it on the operator of the bigger vehicle in the event of a wreck, better safe than sorry my friends.

@41crow 3 года назад

@@codyg7936 I have sat in many company meetings in my 25 year career and there are always 3 types of people in every meeting. Type ONE, that guy that gets work done! He gets the big bonus and respect of everyone around him and on occasion will get reprimanded for cutting the red tape but has found that trade off is well worth it. Type TWO, that guy that comes up with ideas and always wants someone else to do the work. Type THREE, that guy who craps on every idea and always says "that wont work" and then uses fear mongering and scary "IF" statements to backup his rational. This guy will never amount to much and doesn't get much work done because it can only be done his way, he assumes way too much, and he is usually a condescending prick!!! Does this third type sound familiar to you?

@burtonkidd 4 года назад

My dual piston dump didn't break a sweat lifting and dumping 8k lbs of block/stone my buddies single piston front dump struggled like no tomorrow trying to dump the same size load 🤔 that threw me off when he said the dual piston trailers would have more trouble dumping.

@mattwilson7716 4 года назад

This is the type of salesman you want to avoid.

@josephfilben1 5 лет назад

Fmcsa says you only need dot if youre crossing state lines, so even if your trailer is 13k lbs as long as your gcvw is 26,000 or less youre under no extra restrictions unless you cross state lines for interstate commerce, also trailer manufactures will derate the gvw of a trailer so it doesnt require a cdl

@jpsmith9452 2 года назад

I was thinking the same thing.

@wcmwfab935 4 года назад

Being a welder, those were not welds. That was a rolling hazzard

@freddiedename9923 5 лет назад

Need a CDL if : the vehicle that hauls is over 10,001 Need a CDL if both vehicles are over 26 k and 1 lb Need a DOT # if over 10,001 lbs doing BUSiNESS across state lines ( in PA you only need this if transporting hazardous material and more than 15 passengers for compensation, we aren’t required DOT nor CDL if under 26,001 when we cross state lines for business we are required to obtain DOT number ) Do not need a CDL if you are a farmer or own a farm and or family or employees are within 150 mile radius from the farm, on the nursery going to and from the from nursery are agriculture establishment No CDL if it’s an Rv need a CDL if passenger vehicle over 16 passengers.

@charlesc1122 5 лет назад

It depends on what you are going to be using it for & in what state. Direct use for crop farming differs from state to state.

@Ham68229 5 лет назад

@@charlesc1122 interesting since a lot of local area farmers in my area run semi's without CDL's. Since it's NOT a "commercial" haul, don't need one. However, hauling for someone else, even another farmer, yes, it's required. Strange how the law works.

@ericgrady1797 5 лет назад

If it’s not for hire you don’t need no dot numbers or cdl.

@Xxxpertlofi 5 лет назад

Ranch farm or military cdl exempt

@michaelwise1801 4 года назад

All the guys that bitch about the delivery...easy to knock the guy but at the end of the day ...you are not putting yourself out doing the video...so keep clicking.

@caitlyndicus7820 4 года назад

i have a f350 dually and called dot to confirm this-if you are not making money,and track loader and trailer are for personal use only no cdl required and 26001 over does not apply to me.i got this from dot but better not have anything showing for hire like checks(my truck 13000,track loader tl140 takeuchi 9800 they said buy what ever you want but you better just be for personal use only.i live in mid missouri

@bretranalli4012 5 лет назад

I use BRI -Mar dump trailers. Mine has over 400,000 miles on it. Best there is !!!!

@davidguga9959 4 года назад

All those trailers suck and for your info you can tow more then 10k or 26k on a proposal truck. Stop bullshiting up dude

@juancarlosmartinez-rb4pd Год назад

Like every salesman, they believe that their product is the best 😂😂

@nmeyer4141 4 года назад

before all of you DOT know it all's start running your mouths about what the DOT laws are about weights.....you may want to preface your comments with "for hire" "business" "ETC"!!!! because joe civilian DOES NOT need a CDL if he is over 26,001, the only thing that joe civilian needs to be aware of is if he/she is over the posted weight limits of the equipment that she/he is using along with the weight limits of the roads and bridges he/she is on and or crossing!! stan, maybe a little less redundancy and grammar/spelling editing can only help your growth.

@hamiltoncooper3603 4 года назад

You’re mistaken there bud. Truck +trailer = 26k+ needs class A CDL

@southernhomesteadtransformatio 4 года назад

@@hamiltoncooper3603 Or Farm Tags....gives you 150 miles from your address exemption.

@ericriley3147 4 года назад

Southern Homestead Transformation you are mistaken. The 150 mile exemption only applies to your log books. Still need a class a cdl and us dot#

@nolanklein3370 3 года назад

Also need medical card

@jollsnj 3 года назад

Keep in mind, those DOT regs apply to anyone “engaged in commerce.”

@Ramdodge582 5 лет назад

front tele cylinders are in the way of my tractor bucket, keep it below the bed rails!!!

@thebad300 5 лет назад

why are you wearing socks for gloves

@Dirtmonkey 5 лет назад

Oh man- I knew this question would come up. I was carrying baby squirrels with me and they need a pouch when they are super small. Kind of like a kangaroo-carries their babies So I stuck them in my arms believe it or not. That way I could carry 2 and keep them seperate.

@alan4657 5 лет назад

@@Dirtmonkey LOL My wife would just move into your house and never leave.. Baby Squirrels, Foxes. oh man. lol

@bokosik8818 4 года назад

😂 this is the most hilarious thing.... I am making a video on trailers while simultaneously keeping baby squirrels warm with my arm sock pouches! Ahhhh, reminds me of home lol.

@dougtanner8749 3 года назад

Good stuff Stanley! Very helpful for guys in our industry that don’t want the hassle of DOT. I’m a long time welder fabricator and how things are built, materials used and skilled welding mean everything. It will cost you a fortune to fix broken trailers from poor quality.

@eb6195 4 года назад

Over 26,001 pounds requires cdl license. Yet you can drive an rv diesel pusher the size of a city bus on a regular drivers license. Why?? Money, rv industry has paid lobbyist & bribes to keep it that way.

@kubotaman3440 5 лет назад

Box tubing tends to rust faster from the inside out

@buelowexcavating 2 года назад

Good video as usual. The Minnesota DOT buys scissor hoists for their plow trucks so they can have double acting cylinders for their rookie drivers. When they lift the box too high, all the salt slides to the rear, then they can bring the box down.

@247demon 4 года назад

How much did you get paid to advertise this terrible trailers? I love how you butt in with ignorant answers. I have used many dump trailers and I wouldn’t waste my money on any of the trailers shown in this video. This is just another used car salesmen video and the reality is it is sad that there are so many low quality trailers out there.

@clemmersmetalworx7012 Год назад

also in Minnesota and no matter what brand I would never buy anything but a galvanized one . 90% of these trailers rot out before they ever ware out unfortunately

@the_atomic_punk487 6 месяцев назад

Wonder if parking it in a garage would help that

@clemmersmetalworx7012 5 месяцев назад

@the_atomic_punk487 sure if you wash it after every use too. But no one does . And they definitely don't park them inside

@JACK-ez5me 5 лет назад

If you're going to talk about legally towing trailers on the road then you should do a separate video and interview a state trooper. My biggest complaints about going into these trailer dealers is that the sales guys have little to no knowledge about DOT laws, they care mainly about making a quick sale and not selling you the right trailer for you.

@DC9Douglas 5 лет назад

@TrooperHoover

@maxclement1502 5 лет назад

Tractor Time with Tim, Has a great video about all of this stuff with a trooper. Under truck and trailer tuesdays

@maxclement1502 5 лет назад

@@DC9Douglas TTWT hahah

@MichaelDillin 4 года назад

Ask 100 state troopers the same list of 10 questions and ur liable to get 100 different interpretations based on other factors that change the answer to each question. I had a "tough guy" try to bully me in the way station, I had a letter from the attorney for my company and 4 pages of dot exclusion for our industry. The "tough guy" read some of it and stopped and wanted to fine me. It wasn't until I was "forced" (otherwise I would have to accept his ticket) to read 10 paragraphs later where the document addressed his assertion. It was hard for me cause I'm barley literate when it comes to reading. We argued some more. I told him to read the whole thing so he could get more context. His supervisor came back from lunch 45 minutes later and said oh yeah he had heard about the exemption and to let me go. That's the ONLY reason I did not get written up for a violation. Interpretation is never ending art of legal ez

@clutchcitytrucker7064 3 года назад

Michael Dillin 👍🏼

@thomassoltis5862 5 лет назад

Great video brother keep up the awesome work god bless you and your family

@Dirtmonkey 5 лет назад

Hey Thomas, thanks, you too!

@CATDADDYDIESEL 4 года назад

Hmm 10001 law is California

@pepeman3099 4 года назад

You need an Editor. You could grow so much faster. I live in mn also. 😁

@MichaelDillin 4 года назад

A good editor makes the movie.

@HiddenValleyHomestead 5 лет назад

That telescopic tech isnt new. I just bought a 3 axle 17.5ft dump with a telescopic front cylinder and it's a 1983!

@SureTracTrailersPage 5 лет назад

You are correct, the technology is old, however it hasn't been popular, or really even manufactured, on the smaller equipment trailers.

@HiddenValleyHomestead 5 лет назад

@@SureTracTrailersPage I wonder why? I know the sec I saw my trailer it was a score... Are the telescopic cylinders more expensive? Bit from a mechanical perspective like you said in the video the leverage on the other two designs is a drawback... But maybe the smaller trailers don't see enough weight to make a difference or "shouldn't " see I should say... cuz we all know guys overload their trailers all the time...LOL

@SureTracTrailersPage 5 лет назад

@@HiddenValleyHomestead - Hard to say really. Production piece is pretty easy, but the overall cost of the actual hoist is the drawback. In an industry that was so competitive, i believe everyone was trying to be cost conscientious. We are always looking to improve our products and be an industry leader, and we felt like we could advance the dump industry by going to the front mounted Telescopic hoist. It has certainly changed perspectives, and more manufacturers are following the trend.

@HiddenValleyHomestead 5 лет назад

@@SureTracTrailersPage Thanks for engaging!!! And that was super cool of you guys to do a video with The Dirt Monkey! I'm blown away at how popular this vid has become and how many guys are looking at these! Love hearing the manufacturer perspectives as well. I'll tell you from a consumer point of view that I would rather have spent and additional 500 bucks for a better designed setup like the front ram.. If it was 1000s more then I would consider the scissor or double bottom ram style.. but for not much more you get a better and more reliable and stronger design.. I just don't see any negatives!

@SureTracTrailersPage 5 лет назад

@@HiddenValleyHomestead - Thank you for the feedback. We love the ability to interact with the individuals using these types of products on a daily basis. Often times our innovations comes from such feedback. The opportunity to meet with Stan and work with him was a lot of fun.

@chinahydrauliccylinder1375 4 года назад

we produce the 7 tons-inverted telescopic cylinders 12 tons-inverted telescopic cylinders

@simply_andreastewart 2 года назад

I convinced my husband we need a *hot pink* dump trailer since he wants a dump trailer… so now he’s requiring me to do research to make the decision on which ones buy. I coincidentally found this video as my very first review video and he immediately told me to pause it and then confirmed why XYZ (that you had just stated) was correct… long story short I am really glad I found this video. Now on to the next one 😅

@jon63ill1 4 года назад

I use a straight truck with scissor lift and it’s fast compared to my other truck with front cylinder lift.

@207Jeff 5 лет назад

Suretrac makes an ok trailer. I've been dragging several around for 3 yrs now in Maine. The biggest issues I've found is that the prep and paint don't hold up in the rust belt. 3 yr old trailer and it's a rolling heap of rust. Would love to see you do a video on N &N galvanized trailers. Great actual info in the video though. Well done as always.

@Dirtmonkey 5 лет назад

Thank you for the feedback, appreciate it!

@nullrout556 5 лет назад

Does any paint hold up in the North-East though? Edit: I do not miss Michigan. I was changing the oil on my 2013 Ford Focus last weekend and appreciated that the only thing that had rust was a light surface coat on the CV axles. If it were Michigan I might be able so see daylight through the body.

@207Jeff 5 лет назад

@@nullrout556 it helps of the trailer is primed. Maine is a tough environment, but for the $ how does a trailer not get primed? I won't even get into the crappy tack welds that hold the fenders on. 6 months after the purchase both trailers had the fenders re welded with gussets. This is still a great video, for the info, but I'm not Impressed with these trailers.

@D_Cali_Life 3 года назад

I have a 2009 Chevrolet c4500 Flatbed Pulling 26k trailers. My vehicle was registered as personal rig for farm/ranch. And had DOT stickers and "Not For Hire" Decal Never got pulled over or checked at scales. CHP doesn't bother you.

@HTSS8 3 года назад

Can't tow it off the lot? Can't do it as a business-commercial capacity.

@ufotrailers7131 4 года назад

Wow the centre trailer ain’t dumping anything but water 💧 the degree is so limited. You need a mechanical pivot advantage of some sort to get the bed steeper! Really greasy how you put them all at the same height!

@codyg7936 3 года назад

If you hook up to a trailer with a gvwr of 10,001 lbs or more you better have a Class A CDL or you will be breaking the federal law. Some states have their own laws for non commercial things such as campers and if your state doesn’t have such a thing then you still need a Class A CDL to pull your 14,000 lb gvwr camper as far as the feds are concerned.

@ayetay8238 2 года назад

😂😂😂we do not care

@reciperesipe2789 2 года назад

Think you will be fine as long as the fbi isn't patrolling your streets. Pot is still illegal federally but that isn't stopping most states.

@jasonenterline8285 5 лет назад

I WISH you made this video a year ago.. I bought a 6x12 Forest River dump trailer for $4250 and I HATE IT!! I've already broke the threads off the hydraulic ram, the fenders fall 1" on the outer side of the tread (cuts tires if loaded to full) it won't lift nearly what it's rated to lift, ramps hang on the sides of the trailer.. I HATE IT.. but I gotta do what I gotta do..

@jasonenterline8285 5 лет назад

Ohhh not to mention the knuckle where the ram is mounted under the deck, sheared off which broke the threads on the ram.. Stanley if you want pictures get at me in IG @EliteStoneWorx

@TRX450RVlogger 5 лет назад

I don;t care about what the welds look like on a trailer, if it's reliable and works then that's all I care fore. It's not a show trailer it's going to be beat up as the years go by.

@ModernSurvivalists 5 лет назад

It's usually not the welds that fail, though it can indicate quality workmanship. Most likely they spent a lot of time and picked out the worst looking welds they could find on the competitor trailer.

@BS.-.- 4 года назад

Box tube trailers are terrible in the salt belt. They rust out from the center outward. You can never seal up the ends enough or paint the interior.

@masonstansberry2625 3 года назад

26,001 lbs gross combined weight rating(gcwr) is class A cdl IF the towed vehicle(s) have a 10,000lbs or greater gross vehicle weight rating(gvwr). A single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001lbs or greater or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000lbs gvwr is class B cdl. That is directly from the CDL handbook in the chart that shows which license you need. Obviously, the trailers you're talking about meet the class A requirement, but it is beneficial to specify or quote the exact rules. I can have a class B and tow a wood chipper because the gvwr of the aerial lift truck is just over 26,001lbs and my wood chipper only weighs 5,500 lbs and is rated at roughly 6,000lbs gvwr.

@edwardbright9434 7 месяцев назад

I do love tht (1 pump action

@stevesmith8107 5 лет назад

Good information Stanley. Keep up great videos. Also if I have cdl an a us dot # Can I get extra option tool trays. ? And is sure Trac going to offer a telescope model on tandem axle model ?

@Ticolandscaping 5 лет назад

You’ll need the “easy “ maintenance on that front cylinder. Specially when you keep hitting it with logs, brush and concrete when loading.

@muddybadgers5205 5 лет назад

Why are you loading it from the front?

@Ticolandscaping 5 лет назад

K Gappa logs shift when loading. They also longer than the grapple. When loading from the side it’s possible to hit the ram.

@93rwolf Год назад

Sounds like a skill issue.

@dmeyers975 4 года назад

ABU trailers are the BeSt! The heavy duty scissors lift will lift with ease. I own two and will put them against that single piston anyway. They also added a vibrator on my dump trailer.. no more materials sticking in it..Oh yeah.. 10k axles

@tomuchfunwithgas846 5 лет назад

Never ASSUME anything,with the DOT in particular.

@tangydiesel1886 3 года назад

Yep, they'll assume everything for you...

@cameronmcwhinney-holt3195 4 года назад

Who saw the paint runs on those trailers they dont seem to be powder coated and also one of those dumps with a cylinder on the front is weaker than a scissor lift all the way up and what happens when the human loads the trailer to heavy on one side or is on unlevel ground. The scissor lift has been proven for years look up on you tube a dump truck tipping over from weight shifting

@rossbrowning2669 5 лет назад

If your combination is under 26k you're non CDL, your interpretation of the 10k lb trailer rule is incorrect. You can register non combination and tow a trailer under 10k and remain non CDL so long as your GVCW is under what you are registered at, even if you are registered over 26k.

@rossbrowning2669 5 лет назад

It's a common misinterpretation of the law, incorrect nonetheless. That is a very simple version of the correction though.

@docnez8562 3 года назад

Scissor hoists will dump a loud the best. Scissor hoists lift the trailer further up. This video is just an ad, not focusing on anything else.

@BIGWHIT76 5 лет назад

The shitty weld is big Tex

@makingtechsense126 3 года назад

I watched a different trailer buyers guide the other day and the person mentioned having beefier axles but having the manufacturer de-rate the trailer so that it was under-weight but built beefier for longevity.

@swappedoutZ71 Год назад

That's the best way to build things. Always good to overbuild a little bit.

@MrCrusher5000 5 лет назад

I have recently spoken with a compiance officer and he said that if the combined gvwr of the truck and trailer excedes 26,001lbs you need a cdl. I hold a class a witch allows me to drive anything up to 80k. I can pull a fifth wheel, goose neck, or bumper pull as long as the truck is rated for the weight i am pulling as well as the trailer. The cdl depends on the combination of the truck and trailer as well. If you excede the class c rating then you need to get a class b licence if you are only planning to use bumper pull or pintle ring trailers. If you want to pull goose neck or fifth wheel you have to have a class a licence as it goes by weight and the combination of truck and trailer. If you dont plan to pull anything over 26001lbs then you dont need a cdl, dot numbers, fmcsa sticker, or an ifta sticker. After your truck tag excedes 26001lbs youare subject to all fmcsa/dot rules and regulations.

@larrylucas5731 3 года назад

Good stuff my brother. To the point with no fluff. Hell, you should have done the video!

@nickr8829 2 года назад

That's completely wrong, the type of trailer has nothing to do with the CDL class, only the weight. A vehicle over 26,000lbs GVWR towing a trailer under 10,000lbs GVWR is what a class B CDL covers. A class A CDL doesn't cover "up to 80,000lbs," it covers ANY vehicle over 26,000lbs GCWR towing a trailer over 10,000lbs GVWR.

@michaeldankert1962 8 месяцев назад

That's how I understand it. Nobody ever goes into detail when they describe the 10,001 lb rule. The DOT says if you have a GCWR of 26001 (AND) "KEY WORD HERE" Trailer load exceeding 10,001lb, then a CDL is required. It doesn't say (OR) a trailer load exceeding 10,001lb. So if you are below GCWR of 26,001lb, but are pulling over 10,001lb, you are still ok?

@mattsmith9270 7 месяцев назад

@@michaeldankert1962 From what I understand if the combo is under 26,001 the weight of the trailer doesn't matter, and you don't need a cdl. if the combo is over 26,001 and the trailer is under 10,001 that requires a B cdl. If the combo is over 26,001 and the trailer is over 10,001 that requires a class A cdl. Also each state has its own rules.

@RaceMentally 4 года назад

Beefy trailers all the way. Those are light duty in your video. Make a trailer a companies employees can abuse. Those are small frame light gauge for sure. Yes we undertake they do as they say but you know most overload.

@mattcanfield6384 4 года назад

My God get to the point stop telling us what your going to talk about and actually talk about it you put out decent videos but way too much fluff get to the point

@racerx5773 4 года назад

Disadvantage he RAM at the front is won't lift up very far. They won't get 40 or 45 degree lift a Scissor lift will give you.

@bluegrallis 3 года назад

It is a telescoping ram. It could be 3 stages and get just as high as any scissors lift.

@jonnyg44 5 лет назад

My dads 30 year old trailer has that "new" ram placement

@Jako1987 5 лет назад

Ram has to be super long if you wanna tip high angles. You can put shorter ones when they are closer to pivot point. But you give up some force.

@jonnyg44 5 лет назад

@@Jako1987 true but its lasted all this time...so many times over weight and it just keeps working

@weasel884 4 года назад

Just saw you are more clear the part of the CDL that you were talking about his class C hydraulic brakes class a CDL is airbrakes endorsement

@S_man89 4 года назад

Yep air and gcvw is what gets you a class A. You can drive a class B truck trailer combo with air if it’s under the 26,001 lbs restriction. I wish more guys would know this. I drive trucks for a living and it just makes me scratch my head when I see guys load their dump trailers or flat trucks way past what they should be.

@UnblockedOne2 Год назад

That 10,000 lb rule, check your state. It's also not enforced everywhere. You're supposed to have the medical card and all here, but it's not enforced. 99% of the trucks pulling dump trailers here don't have DOT numbers. That's the same for a tandem axle trailer. However, if you were to get in an accident & were not in DOT compliance, you can expect a bunch of tickets and fines.

@edwardbright9434 7 месяцев назад

Thnks for info

@wabbentertainment6602 4 года назад

I think the telascopic is stronger but it is totally more subject to twist and break left or right. It has to be even, not on a hill to be viable

@bxb590 2 года назад

Once again common sense and physics come back to haunt us?

@NatureRecycleFlorida 5 лет назад

cool

@Dirtmonkey 5 лет назад

Thank you !

@boneheadpeterson 2 года назад

I have a 2022 sure trac 14k scissor dump with gravity down. Wouldn’t trade it for anything. Only thing i don’t like is the tarp system

@tndrwj1320 4 года назад

So i could get pulled over and ticked for how much weight i could haul with yet an empty trailer....hum

@Uriah625 4 года назад

Yes,, the DOT goes by possible payload for licensing. 10,001 pounds gcvw and greater requires a DOT #. So if your truck with payload can weigh 10k, no DOT is needed. Throw hitch on, and DOT is needed because your combined will exceed 10,001 # possibly even if you have no intention of hauling a trailer.

@thegameljuego 5 лет назад

I want to know why you have socks in your arms.....🤔🤔🤔🤔

@Dirtmonkey 5 лет назад

They're baby squirrels!

@waynejohnson9855 4 года назад

i was not a math scholar but 16000 and the weight of a standard 3/4 ton pickup falls 2000 to 3000 short of 26001

@Jorgex32 3 месяца назад

Al acabar de ver este video, llame inmediatamente al DMV de Reno NV. Me dijeron que solo se necesita licencia comercial si la carga que uno va a transportar pesa 26k. De lo contrario si es para uso PERSONAL, NO se necesita licencia comercial.

@crazyhass84 4 месяца назад

Or they could use 8k axles and rate it at 14k vs 16k for dot.... blaming the dot it bs!

@RockhillfarmYT 3 года назад

Great video. I just picked up my first dump trailer for making a little side money

@fozzybear9114 11 месяцев назад

Haha. LOTS of inaccurate info here! If your not in business, you can haul whatever you want in Minnesota UNDER 26001 LBS. NOT ENOIGH PRISON BEDS FOR THE PEOPLE HAULING A FREEKIN 12000 POUND TRAILER TO THE FN CABIN. CMON

@troy5007 4 года назад

Federal rules and regulations are for COMMERCIAL USE ONLY. It does NOT APPLY TO PRIVATE. As written in the Transportation rules and regulations. FYI rules and regulations are NOT LAWS. 😉 read more self terrorize less.

@marcoverdone6724 4 года назад

If you haul any trailer that is rated over 10,000 lbs you need a class A license regardless of the gross weight of the tow vehicle.

@briturner11 3 года назад

this man spent the first 5 minutes of the video telling me what he was going to tell me.

@zackzander425 4 года назад

Diamond C and Iron Bull destroy these. So glad the local Sure Trac dealer didn’t have the time of day to give me a quote. Sure Crap. Just have the manufacturer change the weight rating sticker if you’re worried.

@Vamp68BSB1975 5 лет назад

All right I am confused. In TX I can have a truck rated Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) 10,000 lb. (Curb Weight 6,800 lb.) (Less than 26,001 lb) and then I can hook up a Trailer with a max GVWR 10,000 lb. (Curb weight 4,500lb) with a Class C, so how does hitching a trailer cause me being fined since I am not over Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR) of 26,000 lb.? Note: Truck Max Payload is the amount left over after subtracting Truck GVWR by (Curb Weight+Wieght of driver+stuff in and on truck+ Pin/hitching point weight of the trailer(10%/15% of load on tongue and 15%/20% of load on gooseneck/fifth-wheel) and the Trailer Max Payload is the amount left over after subtracting Trailer GVWR by (Curb Weight+ anchoring equipment) Granted that the combined would exceed my truck's towing GCWR of 19,500 Lb but have not found too many GVWR 10,000 lb. (only 9,980 lb.) The best practice is to go to the scales empty and then when loaded to make sure you are not over

@joe4hirelawncare497 5 лет назад

Hi Stanley, are you going to be allowed back in the Scagg both at the GIE this year???? How's the Exmark Staris working out for you?

@SydneeWelter 6 месяцев назад

Wrong on the IFTA portion for being over 26,001 pounds that only pertains to you leaving statelines than you will need IFTA. Can still be CDL and run intrastate and call it a day with just your heavy plate for your state, drug testing etc.

@benault773 4 года назад

A 3/4 ton truck rated at 10k can pull a 16k trailer without a cdl. GCWR is not an estimate. Its literally the exact ratings. If you are at 26k GCWR, that is not a commercial vehicle. 26,001 is the start of commercial vehicles. There are two situations where a 10,001 and over trailer GVWR apply. First is with a GCWR over 26k. If your GCWR is over 26k and your trailer GVWR is over 10k, you need a Class A CDL. If your GCWR is over 26k but your trailer GVWR is 10k or under, you need a class b CDL. Second situation. Anyone with a trailer which the GVWR is over 10k needs a medical examiner card. This is not a CDL but a doctor saying youre medically fit to tow heavy loads. The MEC applies to all trailers over 10k GVWR, even if your GCWR is 26k or under.

@tyrrellroach5872 4 года назад

The US dot number thing I’m not sure u are accurate. I think it’s needed if you are over 10k and doing business in multiple states/ crossing state lines. That just how it has been explained to me and how I understand it off of the fmsca site.

@mikewalsh878 9 месяцев назад

Federal DOT only comes in to play if your are in a commercial vehicle. So depending if this is for personal use or buisness, 26001 doesn't make it a commercial vehicle but for most states it sets the standards on what license is needed. Some class A CDL some Class A non-CDL some Class L like Florida.l The state sets the standards on what license you need. Just because you had to have a commercial license does not mean you have to have commercial plates and DOT numbers. There is so much misunderstanding with all this. I have a semi truck in Texas tagged and plated like my pickup to haul my mega truck personal toy. Texas only requires me to have a Class A non CDL to drive it. I do however have a Class A CDL license.