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How One Bomb Changed The Course Of The Battle Of Midway & Stopped Japan Invading Hawaii 

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In early June of 1942 the might of the Imperial Japanese Navy steams towards Midway, a 2.4 square mile piece of US territory, Tokyo commands its fearsome carrier group to seize the strategic foothold, sever vital supply lines and cripple the Allied war effort.
But unbeknownst to them, code breakers have intercepted the order and alerted the US Pacific Fleet. Within days, the island that Hawaiians call the backbone of heaven would become the setting for a hellish battle with devastating consequences for Japan's Pacific ambitions.
The Battle of Midway would turn the tide of the Second World War, but what if it had failed?
Welcome to History Undone with James Hanson, a channel that looks back at pivotal moments and asks 'What if?'. We'll be looking at key battles, strategic decisions and political outcomes with leading historians and current military experts and tacticians to see what might have happened differently, and more importantly, what impact those differences might have had on the world today.
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@PeterOConnell-pq6io
@PeterOConnell-pq6io 2 месяца назад
Even today, distinguishing between the reality of how an accumulation of random events somehow synergized into the instant, near complete destruction of Japan's Midway ambitions remains in the realm of "the stuff you just can't make up".
@johnschuh8616
@johnschuh8616 2 месяца назад
Star Wars stuff, you mean!
@PeterOConnell-pq6io
@PeterOConnell-pq6io 2 месяца назад
@@johnschuh8616 Unlike Midway, Star Wars, despite its many wonderful qualities, was, in fact, made up.
@greathornedowl3644
@greathornedowl3644 2 месяца назад
Love Johnathan Parshall, always entertaining and informative. The What If's are an endless combination
@CorePathway
@CorePathway 2 месяца назад
Japan “churns out” 14-15 carriers. The US churned out 150. Complete with highly-trained air wings. The lack of a pilot training program was the real stopper for Japan re: carriers.
@greathornedowl3644
@greathornedowl3644 2 месяца назад
Japan in a ten-year build created first-class planes and a fleet of aircraft carriers. In 3 years the USA has a greater number of carriers and the Hellcat fighter.
@julianbrelsford
@julianbrelsford 2 месяца назад
The fact that Japan was absolutely, positively incapable of churning out 150 carriers, and their aircraft, AND training competent pilots for the aircraft, AND providing fuel to all of the above... well that was the core of the problem they were finding themselves embroiled in as soon as they found out that the US military wasn't staffed by a bunch of pushovers
@bryanbest5113
@bryanbest5113 2 месяца назад
Not rotating superior crews, mechanics, to train the next generation.
@wiltonharris7755
@wiltonharris7755 2 месяца назад
And my question is why are we still talking about this today. The Japanese lost get over it
@alanstevens1296
@alanstevens1296 Месяц назад
The U.S. could train tens of thousands of naval pilots on Lake Michigan where no enemy could interfere.
@tabletop.will.phillips
@tabletop.will.phillips 2 месяца назад
I really enjoy this conversational talk show-esque approach. It's a distinctive angle on history content here across RU-vid.
@michaelhollman9470
@michaelhollman9470 2 месяца назад
The wallpaper. The shirt. Fasten your seatbelts, Jon is in the building!
@sep0319
@sep0319 2 месяца назад
Does not matter - they can build as much as they can (like the Germans) they still do not have the fuel to run in. They do not have the ships to move the fuel.
@stuckp1stuckp122
@stuckp1stuckp122 2 месяца назад
I learn a lot about the factors at work through this what-if analysis
@terrylawrence7498
@terrylawrence7498 Месяц назад
Jon is the man
@Dartagnan88
@Dartagnan88 2 месяца назад
absolutely criminal that this channel doesn't have more subscribers. A few suggestions for upcoming videos: - What if the Wehrmacht would've won Stalingrad and/ or Kursk - What if Japan would've aligned with Germany and attacked the Soviets Union instead of Pearl Harbour, getting access to vital resources via/ from Caucasus and Persia (Assuming closer coordination of the Axis forces and a longterm strategic outlook that intends to knock out the Soviets together, securing the required resources and afterwards focusing on the Anglo-sphere
@billmmckelvie5188
@billmmckelvie5188 Месяц назад
Don't forget U.S.S Robin (HMS Victorious loaned to the USN in '43)
@dennisweidner288
@dennisweidner288 14 дней назад
You ovremphsize piloy losses. While most of the Hiryu pilots were lost, most of the pilots on the other three carriers were not lost. They were, however, mostly chewed up in the Solomons.
@bobkitchin8346
@bobkitchin8346 2 месяца назад
The speakers mentioned that if Japan had won the battle of Midway, the impact would have been felt in Moscow as well. I wonder if it's more than a coincidence that Japan planned the Midway/Aleutian battles just a couple of weeks before the Germans launched Operation Blau.
@jakobming4831
@jakobming4831 Месяц назад
One thing not discussed is what if Mitch we doesn’t go fly is his air group to the middle of nowhere
@timmeinschein
@timmeinschein 2 месяца назад
Please remember the performance issues of the 1940 to 1942 aircraft! Even B-17s would have had issue carrying a heavy bomb load. without fighter escort to attack Midway from the current large airfields Hawaii had at the time!!! Now, I can see Japan trying to build airfields and going "down the line" while the US Army (& Navy) went up and built up the smaller Hawaiian Islands to go "up the line"!! Now for "The Strike South" that started the Solomon Island Chain battles, including the "flanking airfield" on Guadalcanal, just remember the Japanese "knew" that they sunk the Lexington, and a Yorktown carrier at Coral Sea. Followed by sinking two Yorktown carriers at Midway (namely they thought they had sunk all 3 Yorktowns) and with the Saratoga in the shipyards for repairs & both the Ranger and Wasp in the Atlantic..... There's a reasonable excuse for "Victory Disease" occurring and the push towards Australia ......
@PeteOtton
@PeteOtton 2 месяца назад
Nimitz wished he had as many carriers as the Japanese claimed to have sunk. It seemed to be very difficult to accurately numbers sunk and aircraft shot down.
@mgt2010fla
@mgt2010fla 21 день назад
Please tell us how many IJN aircrews were lost at Midway?
@kenduncan3221
@kenduncan3221 2 месяца назад
Extends the wars length by 6 months. The Russians may end up with Hokkaido as well as the Kuriles.
@ganndeber1621
@ganndeber1621 2 месяца назад
The shirt, ohh the humanity
@briancooper2112
@briancooper2112 2 месяца назад
Jealous?
@ganndeber1621
@ganndeber1621 2 месяца назад
@@briancooper2112 ohh yes
@Bob.W.
@Bob.W. 2 месяца назад
Don't forget the wallpaper.
@ganndeber1621
@ganndeber1621 2 месяца назад
@@Bob.W. I can't wear the wallpaper
@Bob.W.
@Bob.W. 2 месяца назад
@ganndeber1621 true, but he's always in that room so we have to compare whichever Hawaiian shirt with it. :)
@simonkendrick3212
@simonkendrick3212 2 месяца назад
Who about what if Britain held Singapore and Malaya?
@warrenklein7817
@warrenklein7817 2 месяца назад
Interesting question. My limited knowledge indicates that if troops stayed on Malaya, there was a real possibility to counter-attack the Japanese, who, to my knowledge, hadn't received fresh supplies. Once the British and Commonwealth forces retreated to Singapore and blew the causeway, the Allies were stuck in Singapore with no chance of counter-attack, the civilian population subject to seige, and no water pipeline from Malaya. I recall the Japanese commander acknowledged the supply issue and was considering a pullback for resupply. However, as to how long the stalemate would last is unknown. General Percival was incompetent and should have had a friendly fire incident, just my opinion.
@richardseverin1603
@richardseverin1603 2 месяца назад
There is no discussion of possibly losing communications with Australia and no Guadalcanal campaign (leaving Japan to complete their airfields on the island) if Midway turned out a disaster for the U.S. How long would it take for the U.S. to recover.
@howardwhite1507
@howardwhite1507 Месяц назад
You all assume midway folds if the carriers are sunk or driven off.
@TzunSu
@TzunSu 2 месяца назад
Why is this being reposted again?
@GaveMeGrace1
@GaveMeGrace1 2 месяца назад
Thank you all.
@creigmacc
@creigmacc 2 месяца назад
Japan was never going to invade Hawaii, they needed resources, not beaches.
@kurtwpg
@kurtwpg Месяц назад
Also, invading Hawaii required amphibious divisions, which they did not have.
@cecilkarney9311
@cecilkarney9311 Месяц назад
With all our bombers, how did they let the Kaga go untouched at 10:20 ? Nobody else like Best broke off, all 30 other bombers pounced on the Agaki .
@andyd5492
@andyd5492 2 месяца назад
WHere would the atomic bombs have been delivered from if Tinian hadn't been captured?
@patricknix5975
@patricknix5975 2 месяца назад
She drank the Kool-aid. Pure and simple.
@babboon5764
@babboon5764 25 дней назад
A very contemporarily relevant comment 'China is doing now what Imperial Jaan was doing then trying to seize Hegemony of the entire Eastern Pacific *And James trod on the comment* ?! *WHY*
@jvcyt298
@jvcyt298 2 месяца назад
Hypotheticals and what ifs have a very small place in historical fact.
@brucehartnell1475
@brucehartnell1475 2 месяца назад
If the Japanese navy and industrial strength was as good as these Aussies are suggesting, they might have very well invaded Australia in 1942
@bladerunner1458
@bladerunner1458 Месяц назад
Luck? was someone looking after USA, A decision by one person changed the future
@allenfitzpatrick8485
@allenfitzpatrick8485 Месяц назад
The allies had broken the Japanese codes, they had set an ambush, they knew they were giong to attack midway, roughly when ,and what with. If they had lost at midway it would have been the greatest military disasters in history.
@fredsanford5954
@fredsanford5954 2 месяца назад
So my conspiratorial question: Could it be that Nimitz recognized that his primary CV commander, Halsey, was too aggressive and prone to risk the CVs unacceptably? So Nimitz took a minor case of shingles as an excuse to swap Spruance for Halsey as CTF 16.
@chardtomp
@chardtomp 2 месяца назад
It wasn't a minor case of shingles. If they got Halsey into a hospital at all, he was in agony.
@johnharris6655
@johnharris6655 2 месяца назад
There is no such thing as a minor case of Shingles.
@jaredhaas4168
@jaredhaas4168 2 месяца назад
How to spot the dude who never had shingles...
@PeteOtton
@PeteOtton 2 месяца назад
Halsey had himself checked into the hospital, beaching himself. He wasn't someone to go running to the hospital for minor complaints.
@rsrocket1
@rsrocket1 2 месяца назад
Halsey ran himself into the ground attacking wherever he could. Nimitz knew he had the experience to do this. No way would he deliberately beach Halsey although I’m sure he trusted Halsey’s recommendation to name Spruance as his replacement for the operation.
@calvanoni5443
@calvanoni5443 2 месяца назад
It would be great to have a show on the attack of Pearl Harbor, & Japan invading Hawaii at that time.
@TimesRadioHistory
@TimesRadioHistory 2 месяца назад
Watch this space... 👀
@MikeFeil-c9z
@MikeFeil-c9z 2 месяца назад
Who is this old? Brandy livered UK guy that has no concept of actual history in the Pacific.
@johnwalter9068
@johnwalter9068 Месяц назад
I will not subscribe, This presenter is prone to elevating a possibility to a probability. The threat to the Solomons and the North Territory is more probable than the invasion of the Hawaiian Islands.
@mikejones9961
@mikejones9961 2 месяца назад
Mr Egghead forgets the hatred we had for the Japansies
@blakekeithley3400
@blakekeithley3400 2 месяца назад
You could also contend that without God’s intervention that we would have lost WW2.
@wiseguy8828
@wiseguy8828 2 месяца назад
You mean Odin and Thor right ?
@jaredhaas4168
@jaredhaas4168 2 месяца назад
You could also contend that there is zero evidence for god but America had a huge economic and industrial advantage and really couldn't lose against Japan unless we chose to quit.
@davidely7032
@davidely7032 2 месяца назад
I'm just glad that Santa didn't side with the Axis. I mean, what would we have been able to do with all that coal in our stockings after the navy switched to oil based fuel? 🙄
@ajalvarez3111
@ajalvarez3111 2 месяца назад
@@davidely7032 I don’t know. "Now, Dasher! now, Dancer! now, Panzer and Vixen! On, Comet! on, Cupid! on, Donder and Blitzen!”
@josephfuller9366
@josephfuller9366 Месяц назад
​@@ajalvarez3111 ...Blitzkrieg
@lawrencemarocco8197
@lawrencemarocco8197 16 дней назад
If not for the heroic efforts of the dockyard workers at Pearl Harbor to get Lexington back in operation, the odds would have been four to two and the outcome might have been different.
@yvonnelee3033
@yvonnelee3033 2 месяца назад
The speakers should work on their English diction and learn how to speak a sentence without using "you know.."
@jaredhaas4168
@jaredhaas4168 2 месяца назад
You know, look, the thing is, it's interesting, what you have to remember is, you have conversational crutches too. Get over it.
@valdorhightower
@valdorhightower 25 дней назад
Seriously, your site accepted a political ad from Donald Trump? That's absolute rubbish. You shouldn't be accepting political ads from any candidate.
@PuntaPacifica507
@PuntaPacifica507 21 день назад
Um…it’s his channel…so
@smartbomb7202
@smartbomb7202 2 месяца назад
the americas were very lucky at midway....
@kurtwpg
@kurtwpg Месяц назад
Not really. They had better carriers and an island that made up for being one short, plus knowledge of the enemy plans. They had bad luck locating the enemy fleet until the last minute, and if not for the Flight To Nowhere might have had one more carrier and a bunch more planes at the end.
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