Would be nice if they didn't have to strike but I'm 100% in favor of it of the executives refuse to budge. I'm so sick of American media always framing everything as "Oh those poor executives who make 150 times as much as their employees and get millions more in bonus just can't afford to pay their employees fairly". UPS is large enough to draw attention to the fact that workers in America have almost no power unless they flip the table over on a colossal scale.
I work at UPS' worldport facility and a few things you might wanna think about. 1 the semis have their own fuel station on site to use as well as other amenities. 2 with your airport also in CC you may want to think about adding a UPS plane in just for the detail due to Superior being its own state. Lastly like everyone else said your feeder trailers are facing the wrong direction.
Maybe that’s how those bendy corners could be used. I having a fuel pumping station and the other a little cafe. Not sure if that would be realistic though.
I think there should be a sound wall behind the houses that back to the railroad tracks. This might be a request made by the community due to the increased noise from the train traffic. Also I think additional trees could be added there.
If I remember correctly, there’s a chance that UPS might go on strike if they can’t reach a contract agreement by the end of July. I wonder how that’ll affect Clearwater County.
@@SpringySpring04 Strikes don't cause economic downturns. Corporate malfeasance regarding employee wages and treatment do. Also, we already are in an economic downturn and have been for a long while do to stagnant wages, horrifically poorly enforced labor laws and Greedflation.
I know, without reading the comments, that I'm not the only one who got a chuckle out of the trailers facing the wrong direction. The height of realism. ;)
I absolutely love the stories being told in the development of your cities. These are incredibly entertaining and so much fun! Thank you! One note: At the Distribution hub (UPS), you parked your trailers backwards.
I'm thinking that the rail road probably should be fenced in too, and that there should probably be a couple of more spurs added to the unloading/loading area, rather than a large pond.
Thank you for adding the vegetation to the river! I couldn't figure out why the rivers in Cities have always felt so weird to me. Then it clicked when you mentioned the reeds.
Loved the build today! One minor suggestion I'd have is to include the rail facilities inside the fenced area, not only for the general security the fence would provide but also as a buffer for wildlife coming onto the tracks.
21:00 My grandma used to live in front of a railway. There was times where it'd wake you up at 3:37 AM, but other than that, I loved seeing the trains pass all day.
Not sure if you fixed the trailers in the video, but they are facing the wrong way. You have doors facing outside and not the warehouse which makes it basically impossible to park.
Just wanted to say thanks for these videos, inspired many a failed city and your voice is better than ASMR to fall asleep too. But seriously enjoy some of the narative driven builds you do etc and looking forward to exploring cities skylines two with your guidance
As a trucker, I can promise you there will always be a light pole or fire hydrant or some other obstruction preventing you from being able to straight back into your assigned dock in an otherwise wide open lot
Maybe the bridge over the train rails should have a better access for the pedestrians (stairs) just to encourage employee from the Belmont to go by foot to the work in such a big facility, Also the trailers in the facility are wrong way around, the back door should go to the bay to load it :P
I love logistics and this distribution centre is awesome! Thanks, Phil. I know the trailer orientation has been mentioned but how about some lighting for the train siding for when a train is being unloaded in the dark?
The attention to detail you have in your builds is amazing. I have enough patience to build a city that is functional, thats tough enough. Really appreciate your vids.
I think the area around where the bridge from the distribution center connects into Belmont could use a bit more detailing. Maybe some of the single family residential on the blocks under the bridge could re-zone to commercial or maybe even a park of some sort. The row of homes along the tracks (if they remain) should definitely be fenced in as well. As always, another great episode and I can't wait to see all the new development around the area!
I'm so happy to see something from Belmont again! I loved watching you build that place and I'm excited to see if something more happens here in the future.
Hi Phil, One thing missing from this location is storage for trailers. I work in a distribution center that is half a mile long, and one thing that is critical is being able to store plenty of empty trailers in our yard that can be used to set up at the loading docks. Perhaps you can add prop trailers to all that empty space around the corners of the parking lot. Additionally, there should be a security fence around the entire premises as there are multi-million dollars worth of products up for grabs at any given time. The fence should also separate the staff parking from the trailers as it is both a security, and safety concern to have people park in a very busy and active trailer yard. Thanks for the CWC upload!
hey phil! totally not in context with the current build, but I thought I’d try my luck with this: near where i grew up there was a golf course/mini golf course called “mulligans” and every time I think of it I think of your videos. could be fun to have a mini golf course (real golf courses are a plague, but also a staple where i’m from) in one of your towns. just an idea! adore you vids.
I’m glad to say I finally caught up to current content of CWC I loved to watch the whole community grow and it was a fun journey and can’t wait to watch the new coming content! I love watching your videos CPP thanks for creating content and being yourself haha
A few notes to mention from a FedEx employee. You did a really good job of building this distribution center, it looks pretty realistic for the limits of the game and its obvious you have done some good research to try and make it accurate. 1. Something to consider is that this is also a short term storage complex, so you will often find a large amount of trailers just being stored in open parking lots, might be good to add on to the parking lots, or even create a separate parking lot close to it for storage. The location I am at has a pretty sizable fenced lot across the road for that purpose. the regular stations are huge, but the hubs are ginormous, and the parking area required can really reflect that. 2. even if it is small, these locations often have a customer facing part of the building (the main office section in this build) that has public access for customer pickups, employee interviews, and other related matters. If possible, it would be good to relocate that to an area that would allow for public access. Ive seen it even as a detached segment from the main building with its own parking area. Not the end of the world though, especially because of the effort you've put into it so far. 3. Distribution companies love fences like they grow on trees. I'm sure its in part due to regulations required both by the company and the government. One thing that would be very important is a division between employee/customer parking and access to the yard area where the semi trucks go. Access to any packages would need to be heavily restricted and it would be a huge concern to have your average joe driving or walking through the yard and attempting to get into one of the trailers or getting hit by a truck. Overall I really enjoyed this build!! That retention wall is something you would totally see in real life. My old location was on a hill and had a retention wall next to the highway that was probably at least 40-50ft high.
I feel like you would probably see a guard rail go up along the road beside the retaining wall next to the river. I could imagine that being a dangerous turn at night.
It's not logical to place parking spaces in front of loading docks. It's not logical at all to place trailers the wrong way around the loading docks. 😝 Very enjoyable vid again CPP.
I've used the very same Avanya assets and loved them. The trucks need to be able to drop and pick up - this means that they have to get close. Options: * Spawn Point tool * Allow only trucks to go through the innermost lanes (it will look bad) * Cheat - run industry one-way roads within the warehouses (the assets allow it). This will allow building-to-building to flow more realistically; include the rail yard in the "cheat." A continuous building at this scale has automation, conveyer, rider trucks, etc. The goods are rarely going onto a trailer to move down a quarter mile. They're driven inside by forklifts, and similar. * To take the cheat further, connect the inner roads to the parking lot road at points that look sensible. This way, at least, as a truck leaves, it looks right. I use the 58m parking lot road and use it to force specific circulation and it avoids unrealistic truck traffic. I also add a guard/security shack, ideally with a gate.
My brother in law retired from UPS. Was the mechanic in Findlay Ohio for forever. He got so many awards for keeping their trucks on the road they had to build shelving along the walls of the stairwell up to the main office for all his plaques. He said, I'm not taking these home. I have no room. When he retired, he brought his tools and chest home. All of that cost over 80k. For tools and a huge tool chest. Man is a mechanic legend.
You mentioned that you didn't think anyone would love next to the tracks anymore, so use RICO to turn them into commercial properties. I've seen plenty of semi-historic houses turned into small business locations. Maybe even an office or two.
As someone who works for a Distribution Center I can FINALLY weigh in on something. As others said, you placed all the trailers backwards against the dock doors so not only can the workers not access them but trucks can't hook up either. Also something to keep in mind if you make another Warehouse, that a lot of them have all the loading docks fenced off from the "front" of the building, where all the workers and visitors park. That area with the loading docks is called the Truck Yard and is restricted cause it's a security risk when workers have the docks open and someone can just walk up and access the building that way. Last, that's a lot of parking even for a Warehouse, though I work for a Retail chain, I dunno how many people a shipping giant like UPS would employ.
This is a welcome surprise - a Thursday City Planner Plays! Edit - would it be possible to put a green roof or solar panels on the roof of the distribution centre?
Just a few points. Water flows downhill. The retention pond would likely be on the opposite side in area between the road and the retention wall. This will also keep them from having to run pipes and sewer under the railroad. The area where the pond is now would be a good spot for the trailer drop yard and fleet maintenance shop. And has been pointed out already by a couple others, but I still have to say it....*You're trailers are backwards!!!* the back area between the parking lot and the bridge would probably have a few trees to block noise and light. Where the homes are along the tracks...yea, those need to go. Line some tress and bushes..and maybe a dirt access road along the line for rail maintenance. You can aslo add some detail in the middle of the wye. some rail stuff from Ronyx and others and couple maintence trucks and mobile shed for a rail maintenance area. a dirt access road to one running parallel to the mainline as I suggested previously. To be honest, they liley wouldn't put one there, but for the sake of detail it would work well for the spot anyway,. The road going over the bridge into town I would either restrict truck traffic, or turn that road into town into more of main drag rather then all that traffic running through the middle of a solid residential area. maybe a mini commercial area or something. Not quite downtown kinda scene, but maybe some fast food, gas station, car repair, small industrial shop (thers's some prop industrial small shop buildings that wont pollute...wont function either but they wont pollute and would give it an old town "this used to be our industrial area before McDonald's and Barnes & Nobles bought it all up" look). Both King Leon and Spence! have a couple of old style strip malls that would also fit in nice along that road. Beyond that, making the area "south" of the plant into farmland would help give it the effect that they build the warehouse out on edge of town. It's fairly common in rural Midwest when a small/medium -ish sized town gets a rather sizable plant, they put it way on the edge of town, in the middle of farmlands
Very inspiring! Your laugh kills me. I played a bit of your vid at 1.5 speed to see something you had done, and your laugh at that speed was hideously funny. Love your stuff.
The ups prop trailers you placed are backwards. The tires on the trailers are closer to the back and the back of the trailers go towards the building. 😉
Hi phill, i love all of your builds and admire how much you care about realism, clearwater county has been expanding a lot and i think you should build a new rapid transit system to connect all new developments, you could use the highway medians that you built/enlargened in your interstate conversion video or use existing rail corridors to save money realistically!
It's intensely satisfying to see a city planner playing city planning games... love these videos, learning a lot about how to make my Cities Skylines builds more interesting
This is incredible! So you're playing a game, but to understand how all the features work wow! it reminds me of when I first learned 3D software. Then I asked myself what kind of setup would it take to run this properly. Holy smokes man! you have the tech! Keep it going and I hope your views/subs increase to cover those costs. Keep it going!
Hey Phil! Former logistics coordinator here. One thing a facility of this size would have would be a drop lot. Basically a lot full of loaded trailers waiting for pickup or empty trailers waiting to be loaded. Usually you'd have a guard shack of some sort, and also the trailers at the doors are facing the wrong way.
You placed the trailers the wrong way round, the doors should be at the bay doors not facing out, the truck hookups are at the doors, you'll never get them moved fully loaded.
As someone who grew up in the Chequamegon Bay area, I've loved this build. I now live in Madison... maybe someday I can treat the city planner to lunch!
hi when you changed the rail piece in the distribution center from electryfied track to unelectryfied one i realized that all of clearwater county's rail runs on diesel (or i just didn't noticed any electric tracks) , and i think this is something that should be changed. i know that usa overall has a skill issue dealing wih rail and there is not much tracks electrified (less than 1%) but the voices saying that usa should electrify its tracks are becoming increasingly louder and i think that in clearwater county these voices also would be hearable. electrification of rail comes with great benefits, electric trains are more effective, has better acceleration, they also reduce noise and vibration pollution (something that Belmont would greatly benefit from, especially these houses along the railroad) and can be powered from renewable sources of energy, that means less fossil fuels are burned. probably i missed something and it may actually not be a great idea but i think that clearwater should electrify at least some of its railroads. let me know if im wrong
Hi, I have some suggestions regarding the distribution center! You could add some kind of gas station for the trucks, maybe with a small Cafe and/or some vending machines for the workers. The vending machines could also be near the parking lot (by the doors maybe? with some plastic chairs for the workers to eat a snack on brakes??), where you could add bike parking. Edit: and some trash cans in the parking lot for smoking breaks!
Use empty space around the distribution center for extra trailers or box trucks(try using the UPS Heavy Truck Prop from the workshop) Since UPS has decided to move in, I would recommend a terminal for UPS Airlines(a air cargo subsidiary of UPS) at Clearwater County's airport to use air as a means of transport cargo to and from the County since air is a fast and easy method of transportation.
You should add an additional lot for trailers in the yard. Worked at Fedex ground for years and we had trailers wrapped around the building and all throughout the yard.
For the curves in the guant parking lot roads, you could spend a good time messing around in the intersection marking tool adding curbs, planters, fake parking spots, or road markings.
Glad your channel is now so successful that you are picking up sponsorship from major global logistics companies 🎉😂 I also assume the snaking traffic from the rail yard is two nodes too close together - one at the end of the parking lot road and the other created by the junction. If you delete the road coming in and move it I think that will fix the problem.
First of all thank you for removing the light posts in the middle of the dock doors. As a truck driver it drove me nuts just thinking about the inevitable madness of being told to back up to the dock with a light pole right in front of it. Yes I've been to a few places like that. What baffles me most is that no one from planning to construction seems to have noticed, nor does the shipping/receiving personnel care. But one other major thing I noticed is your trailer props need to be turned 180°. While it's not impossible to place a trailer like that it's very impractical to unload. Usually when you see something like that it was done by a disgruntled yard hustler that quit right afterwards. Also you should add a sizable trailer drop lot. Don't think I've ever seen a ups without one
UPS has very specific brand placement requirements on their buildings. Large, lighted logo signs are ALWAYS only at the corners of the buildings and as high as possible on the wall. Guidance signage on roads are small brown/white/gold signs with the logo in the top left. Also, all trucks are required to back into parking spaces.
As a botanist type person I love to see the investment into restoration of prairie and plants. Many states in the Midwest area now restore the side of highways to prairie as a way to improve habitat and grow plants that don't need mowing maintenance. Ecological and Economical.
Great video. Good idea on the curved corners. Two comments... the trailer props are facing the wrong direction and I think the employee parking between the bridge entrance and the corner bend would be a difficult turn for the tractor trailers to he able to make that turning radius if there were cars parked on the last spots of the middle rows. I would suggest either no parking in that section or just a single row? Those are two turns pretty close to each other and the trucks are going to need some radius to allow the trailer to travel behind
Great video! Couple suggestions: Probably want to fence off the area between the employee parking and the operations area. Also maybe add a guard shack?
40:39 From a safety perspective, you'll might want to add some barriers on the road or at least a sign in that bend. That'll reduce the amount of cars that have to be fished out of the river. Since it is quite steep and the highway starts before you see the river.
There is a UPS hub in Ironwood Mi that would actually be closer to Clearwater County, as that is where all my Amazon packages come from. Just pulling your chain a bit, love the series
Loving this series so far! I do have a couple of suggestions, though. The fencing should probably encompass the rail area, since it would be common for railcars to be delivered at night and left there until unloaded and picked up by another train. Also (and I don't know if this is possible) it would make sense for all the trains that serve the distro center to have either boxcars or intermodal containers.
I workes at UPS for two years, thats pretty accurate! However, at my facility there was an overflow parking lot for trailers that werent being unloaded at that moment
🎯 Key takeaways & points for quick navigation: - 00:00 🏭 UPS plans Distribution Hub in Clearwater County, bringing jobs and tax revenue. - 00:43 🌉 Belmont City annexes Greyhog to facilitate Hub development with financing. - 01:12 📈 Hub construction spurs growth, providing jobs and tax revenue. - 03:04 🏭 Custom assets used for functional Hub design. - 05:25 🚧 Adjustments made for smooth circulation within the facility. - 10:56 🚆 Railway connections established for efficient access. - 17:14 🚂 Rail track adjusted for freight train compatibility. - 18:07 🛣️ Roadway improvements planned, including a viaduct. - 19:58 🏗️ Viaduct construction considers train height requirements. - 21:23 🚧 Adjustments needed for better traffic flow on the bridge. - 22:04 🛣️ Bridge segment extended for improved slope. - 23:12 🌉 Rural highway used as the planned bridge connection. - 24:22 🌿 Landscaping and retaining walls prevent erosion. - 26:24 🅿️ Parking lot adjustments resolve traffic flow issues. - 28:46 🏢 Additional detailing and landscaping planned. - 33:11 🌳 Trees added to meet landscaping requirements. - 35:48 💧 Pond created for managing runoff. - 38:23 🌾 Vegetation added to enhance riverbank area. - 42:05 💡 Lighting adjustments improve appearance. - 44:00 👍 Satisfactory parking lot lighting adjustments. - 45:24 🌇 Highlighting the site's massive scale and potential impact. - 45:53 🔍 Missing trucks to be investigated and fixed off-camera. - 46:06 👨💼 Positive impact on job creation and future growth. Generated with HARPA AI 🧬
I really like this build. But I do have a couple of questions. Wouldn’t the town be very upset that a on-ramp or viaduct was built in a quiet neighborhood? Wouldn’t they be very upset to see commercial trucks and commercial box trucks go in and out of their small neighborhood? Also, Wouldn’t you not be any houses that close to the train tracks? What would be better if it was just use as open space or pack it with dense vegetation to be a buffer for sound for the trains? I know if I was living in the house I would not wanna live there because the land I will be very bad and also having to deal with the train traffic noise.
Hey man. Love the series and the channel. Just wanted to add that maybe the dock where the train loads should have some lights too for those workers on night shift.
Love the build! For those corners where you weren't sure what to do, I would set up a dumpster depot. I've seen that at some places where parking didn't quite fit. Maybe it wouldn't work, but all I can think of.
One thing, how are your tractors going to hook up to the trailers? They all look to be backwards around the building. I would also say for authenticity, you should put a bench or 2 on the far corner of the building near the railway on the parking lot side of the fence. There would absolutely be a smoke pit far away from the entrances.
