At this point I want a movie called “The Pixar Theorem” where a new character has to fix the timeline by traveling through these movies and the antagonist is BnL
Ok so i know this is unrealted to anything in this video but i just had random thought...what was the witch doing when she was gone....(ok here's some context if you dont follow) when merida goes to the witch hut to change her mom back the witch is not at her hut she left a voice mail saying she was going to some festival but i dont belive that for a second.....so what was she actually doing (i myself have no idea other then she was time traveling to other pixar movies)
I feel like Pixar keeps coming up with movies thinking “There’s no way this can fit into the Pixar theory” because it’s supposedly been debunked and then J and Ben come along and be like “watch us” Pixar’s response is 🤦♂️🤦♀️
Highland Dancer Except a lot of Pixar movies fit so well into the Pixar theory that it sometimes feels like they’re consciously building into their movies. Coco for example fits so perfectly they didn’t even have to try that hard. I think Soul will fit nicely too in with the likes of Inside Out and Coco.
George Newman oh for sure! I do believe that the Pixar theory is true! Their movies fit together so well! I just though I had heard that people at Pixar said it wasn’t a thing. I could be totally wrong however.
@@highlanddancer8671 It isn't a thing. Pixar explicitly said it wasn't. And most of the ways these movies fit into this theory just simply don't make sense. They always give a lot of reasons how it would work, but ignore all of the gaping plot holes.
@@elfmonster1476 and we care because? Theories are about fun. I'm pretty sure everyone knows that they didn't do this on purpose. No one has that much foresight.
This movie made me cry, The fact that Ian never got to see his father was devastating and that Barley who got to see him only did so in even less than a minute all together was just... ARG
Reven_Ren I actually loved that, the fact that it wasn’t a “perfect happy ending”, that Ian didn’t get to see his father OR keep the magical staff thing. It’s kind of like punching us as an audience in the face with “yes this is realistic and relatable.”
For all the people curious about the spell using the word “earth”: In the official subtitles for Onward, the spell used to bring back the dad says “one day to walk the earth”. The subtitles do not capitalize “earth”, so this means they are not talking about our planet Earth. The spell is referencing earth as dirt/rock that some planets are made of.
Dictionary.com say this: "It is acceptable to leave *earth* lowercase and use *the* with *earth* if you are talking about it as the planet we live on: 'The earth rotates on its axis.'"
@@tails-spin0139 In the WALL E script to screen video on the official Pixar RU-vid channel, they capitalize Earth when talking about the planet. I would assume Pixar to be consistent across movies with their capitalization. Also in the official subtitles for WALL E, Earth is capitalized.
Maybe instead of everyone dying in the crash, there were survivors and those survivors interbred with the creatures from Onward, and that's the reason why they look like humans and why magic is "going extinct"
@@harmonslytherin If a theory has reasons that it doesn't work...then it's no longer a theory, it's just debunked. A theory is something that could be, but all the evidence for it to be fact isn't quite there yet. If there are reasons for it not working, even one, how is it a theory any longer?
What if Onward acts as a “Phase 2” for Pixar movies/ Pixar Theory. Think about it. Maybe from now on, Pixar movies may be about what happened after other Axium ships landed on other planets. How they grew, developed, evolved, and survived. Think about it
The next Pixar movie is soul which would imo take place around the time of toy story possibly incredibles considering the theory so this may not be true D:
Honestly this theory is missing a lot, however, I think we all may have missed something with “Raven’s point”. Analyze the Raven from Brave with the Raven statues in Onward. I’ll definitely have to re-watch Brave but I think that’s a good place to start. The Witch basically disappears at the end of Brave. Where does she go? Does she create a portal? Where to? Does Boo realize that since there’s a monster portal and universe, there’s more out there too. I think this may be how Onward fits into everything. Just another portal just like Monster’s Inc? Please do a video on this.
Schuyler Thompson I think the same as you! Maybe the raven is hidden in other movies too but no one was looking. And maybe we should not just look for the raven but what the raven is pointing at 🤔
Monsters Inc isnt a portal to a different universe its a time travel devise that is allowing them to go back in time when humans where still inhabiting earth, if im not mistaken the monsters are primarily traveling back to the 50's not another universe
@@shaneabens6006 Well, there's different theories. Supercarlinbrothers made the one that they're travelling into the 50's, but everyone thinks it's time travel. I like the theory that Violet is Boo's mom though.
The movie made a point with Ian’s staff telling us that magic comes from every piece of wood within in the staff, meaning it comes from the trees, and other natural sources (magic can’t be done without wood from the planet or without a gem also formed from the planet’s natural resources), meaning magic isn’t within the citizens of whatever planet Onward takes place on, but rather magic is within the planet itself, so I think it makes more sense that the Axiom crashed and the humans actually survived the crash, began inhabiting the new planet, and the planet’s magic eventually evolved those people into mythical creatures over time. This would also explain why everything about Onward’s citizens seem so human and almost exactly the way things are on earth, because they used to be humans inhabiting earth. If radiation can turn humans into monsters in this theory than a magical planet can also turn humans into mythical creatures over time.
James Scarborough except it is shown to partially be w/i people because only certain people can use it. ie. Ian’s dad, Ian, and the other wizards. So it makes sense that it was within the citizens as well.
JasonTubes Yeah, but I don’t think it’s a leap to say that humans, after discovering magic abandoned technology for it then over time resorted back to technology after becoming more experienced with how less practical magic is.
Josh Collins or it just presents itself differently in every human, it’s magic, there aren’t exactly rules, it gives some people horse legs and the ability to run 70 mph and it gives others the innate ability to wield it. It’s the same as how on earth some humans are immune to certain poisonous plants or venoms, different humans react to natural phenomenons (which is what I’m calling magic on the Onward planet) differently.
I really hope pixar makes like an after credit scene in a future movie that acknowledges the pixar theory. Not necessarily to set up a crossover movie like the mcu, more so as a nod to the fans for such an elaborate and great theory.
My version: Seeing how us Humans have all those creatures from Onward in our stories, maybe their planet advanced technologically faster than us, went to earth during medieval times and such, and made a couple visits afterwards, and we copied them.
I think that when they went to explore the crashed axiom ship they found all the info about earth and then named their races off of our mythology that they found on the ship
This theory is solid. Especially the Raven’s Point thing. But, how did the creatures get there? These things ARE fantasy creatures, like Unicorns. How could humans have known about these things to make myths about them? Well I think that it comes back to Boo. I think she tried to use her magic to bring back Sulley but instead made fantasy creatures a kin to her childhood. She then transported these creatures to a random planet. Then the Axiom thing happens. Though that’s just my theory Edit: We know there are fantasy creatures here because of a notebook that’s in Monster’s University that has a griffin on it.
Or possibly she tried to bring them to her and it went wrong and brought a few of their creatures here where they just stayed. That's why there are so few of them and that's why they stay hidden, they are scared, and keep away from us because they dont know our kind. They already existed on another planet, she just couldnt get it right for a very long time.
@KipsUnited i agree but your theory doesn't quite fit because the humans returned and became the monsters (in the pixar theory) due to the pollution and the axiom ship would most likely have crashed on this planet prior to, during, or shortly after the events of Wall-E because the ship that eventually crashes would have most likely received a message to return to earth when the ship from Wall-E does return, so in my opinion either the ship was on its way back to earth, because of the message from the people that returned, leading to them crash landing or they had crashed at a point prior to the humans return to Earth in Wall-E (whether the crash was during or prior to the events of Wall-E is technically irrelevant in my theory)
Well actually, I don't know if it's fair to beleive that humans have myths about them, if you see the PCU as a separate entity then our reality then they never actually mention knowing about myths or anything. It's possible that sense this is an alternate reality that the humans don't have mythological creatures or anything.
Has anyone else noticed how similar Onward is to Frozen? We just watched it as a family. Siblings, a quirky, goofy, one who loves with all their heart. The other feels different, full of fear and Magical. They go on an adventure to discover that all they needed was each other all along.❤️
In Frozen, Elsa runs away and they have to find her, in Onward, both brothers travel together to find something. Barley is a way better sibling than Elsa will ever be.
@@ZUnknownFox yes exactly. think where the 2nd stone is found. in the top of the well. it was probably used to "power" the pumping mechanism of the well in the past ;-)
Did anyone else think when J said “rising like a Phoenix” at the end of the video he was going to say “and that’s how Onward fits into Harry Potter!”??
After watching the movie, my mind kinda went the “Horton Hears a Who” direction. Because they keep saying they live in New Mushroomton. So I was thinking they were a small society living on a mushroom.
I saw another Wall-E connection: the pixies and the manticore forgetting how/losing the ability to fly is just like how the Axiom passengers become so reliant on technology that they don’t even walk anymore.
In the trailer for Soul we see Joe in the In Between and the Before Life. We never see him in the After Life. I also see the possibility in Pixar for different after lives based off of culture
elves and fairies and centaurs are present in our earth's folklore. Meaning that maybe our legends of these creatures came from alien encounters? I dont know if that debunks the theory or adds just another fascinating layer
I think Onward is a book/story that Andy wrote after college. My reasons are: Andy and Ian both have no dad. Andy’s bed frame has a moon next to his window, which displays another moon. Ian’s world has infrastructure and stuff, and we know Andy BIG imagination, BIG “Tripledent Gum WiLl MaKe YoU sMiLe”
I think Onward is the mere imagination a teen(hint -Inside Out). It also explains where all these human like objects must’ve come from. We also clearly see a coming of age story throughout the whole story. It began with a child’s imagination where magic was real and what child doesn’t believe in magic. As that child imagination matures magic disappears.
The only thing I'd disagree with is that there were already inhabitants on the planet that just learned from the Axiom... Ian and Barley's species (elves??) look WAY too human, not to mention there was a scene at the beginning where a character is in the process of inventing electricity-- that's definitely not in line with them taking information from the Axiom. My personal theory is that the Axiom crashed, the humans couldn't figure out how to get it working again, and eventually decided to forge their own lives using whatever magic they were able to harness from the planet. After a while they evolved, forgot about their origins, and then cycled back around with the technological inventions. It's totally possible that some knowledge of traditional technology was passed on, so inventors took inspiration from those old tales and figured out that they work pretty well (no need to reinvent the wheel, as they say) which is why they're so similar to our technology
Yeah that was what I was thinking, and it seems more likely. But one thing though, if this theory is correct, where did the elves learn magic?How would they know magic even existed to begin with? It’s not a bad theory, but it just seems like a stretch if you throw in the part on magic and everything.
@@lily6897 maybe they found a tree that the breaches had magic they already knew there was magic in the world and btw they siad that the wand had "magic in every piece" so maybe they just replicated the wands like Ian did with his dad
The bit about the elves looking human - if they’re carbon based life forms and the conditions on the planet are similar to the ones on earth it’s not impossible that they look similar to humans.
Sorry but why would the humans evolve into magical creatures? That’s not how Evolution works, you don’t just become half horse. And plus there’s other non-human like animals such as their pet dragon on the planet too. I think the simpler answer is them discovering wo tricot y is when they figured out how to copy it from the Axiom.
It still could be Earth as we are gaining and losing “moons” all the time. Asteroid come into orbit and exit quite often. In fact, our moon is currently getting further and further away and eventually, it will leave our orbit.
In the visitation spell it says and I quote, "Only once is all we get, grant me this rebirth, till tomorrow's sun has set, one day to walk the EARTH." Implying that Onward takes place on the same planet as the rest of the movies like the Pixar Theory suggests.
It could, but generally when we gain a moon we don’t see it at night. We only see our main moon, and another thing is that those Moons seem to come out earlier than our moon, as the chance of seeing ours in that light is pretty rare. Pretty good reasoning for it to be a different planet
YESSS and why else would they put the mountain in there in that specific shape? and the mountain itself could have not even been in the movie, and the movie would have made sense. also, I think that the magic was in the planet itself, and the people. I also believe that the ravens were a reference to brave, and how the witch had the really annoying crow.
I agree with that Raven's Point is crashed BNL ship but I think at least some of the humans survived. In similar way as monsters are humans from technological pollution, I believe these magical creatures are result of "magical pollution", gradually changing the humans based on their memories of magical creatures. The reason why we first see this medieval fantasy is because people after seeing what destruction technology can cause, decided to use the abundant magic of this planet instead. All the creatures there being originally human would also explain how can Centaurs and Elves be genetically compatible. Basic timeline: 1. BNL makes everyone leave Earth. 2. One ships crashes on Earth like planet with abundance of magic. 3. Humans decide to reject modern technology and live simpler almost amish-like lives. 4. Abundance of magic causes humans to mutate based on their memories of magical creatures over time into these magi-humans. 5. Over course of time, humans decide to explore this planet, based on past ideas of high adventure fantasy. 6. With magic seemingly getting "thinner" and hard to master, magi-humans start to innovate and progress more to urban life, similar to ours. 7. With little to no magic users, most start to ignore past existence of magic. There is an alternative of this being Mars after being terraformed by BNL but being abandoned due to magical interference. I might have explained my thought wrong and I am sorry if that is the case.
Since we've established magic is genetic, maybe you're right and humans did survive the crash. They fell in love and reproduced with magical creatures. This would explain why some have magic and others don't!
What if it's just a parallel universe? Everything is almost exactly the same except for a few details like an extra moon and different creatures, the creatures also act suspiciously similarly to how humans act.
pixar universe, not multiverse. everything could be explained way too easily if the pixar theory had a multiverse. Every movie would be a different universe. Aka, basically, if there was never a pixar theory.
@@Totally_BonkersI like to think of monsters ink as a multiverse, not weird evolved humans. I feel like everyone getting mutated due to radiation defeats the point of WALL-EE.
@@LakesideTreyit doesn’t defeat the point. They still come back to their planet and regain their home. But that doesn’t take away all of the consequences completely.
Screenrant made one first: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8hd61vD5DHE.html. Theirs is different, though. Not sure which one I like best, but once you have time and space travel courtesy of the magic Monsters doors in the theory, most things could be made to fit. Not that I'm complaining -- it's still creative and fun.
I simply think that the human crash-landed on the "onwards" plant, mutated into magical creatures with time. Humans dying in that crash would somehow bring up the "alien existing out there" argument for the creatures of "onwards" planet. So It's highly likely that these creatures are mutated humans; mutated by the environment of the planet.
Jamal AQ mutated is kind of a word for viruses and bacteria. Usually, when we’re talking about species, the term shifts to “evolved.” (The word mutated makes it sound like humans are a kind of single celled blob of biological matter.) Great theory, though!
*Insert Name Here* * No, mutations simply refer to any minor or major mistake made when DNA is copied in any living thing. For example, when gametes (unfertilized offspring cells) divide, their DNA is copied each time, and there are often little mistakes. But, over time (millions of years), these genetic mutations accumulate and cause major changes in the organism. The organisms with new traits that benefit them have a higher chance to survive and reproduce, so more of those organisms’ traits are passed on. And, the organisms with traits that decrease their chance of survival and reproduction eventually go extinct (natural selection). Lastly, a species is just a class of organisms, so every living thing falls into a species (including bacteria), and we are all made of biological matter.
@@sebastiandaniels3244 Also explainable by the Onward people naming their planet Earth in turn. It isn't like they have any recognizable history or folklore before this ship came by.
First of all this was AMAZING! Second, will you guys make a video on how the myths of these fantasy creatures ended up on Earth? Could there be a portal to this planet opened accidentally by Boo at some point?
i like the idea of triple dent gum surviving the end of earth's habitability, mankind taking refuge in the stars through supermassive starliners, and one of said starliners subsequently crashing on another planet because it's jingle was THAT catchy.
Emmarina, invented and created could technically by synonymous with each other in this context. But perhaps not. Consider this, that woman goes looking at this old mountain. Within it, she finds all kinds of tech. She wants to get rich, finds something relatively simple to craft with the current tech available. She makes a light bulb, and sells them at the markets. Eventually she tells her secrets and technology explodes from there. Ask yourself this, how would she know it's called a light bulb?
Alexander Patterson yup the way she said “it’s called a light bulb” got me thinking how would she know the name? With all the magic around, had she come up with her own name for the light bulb, the name would sound more like spell.
there is one problem with this theory: the creatures on "Onward Planet" aren't inspired by human culture, they ARE human culture. Every single one of them is a mythological creature from human stories. It would fit better if idk, the robots on the spaceship got personality and really like greek and nordish myth so they changed the original creatures to be like the creatures drom the stories.
Or, when Boo is going through doors looking for Sully (as the witch), she may have accidentally opened a door to that planet, and some of them may have leaked into our world, causing us to have those mythologies.
It looks like when the shot showing the country side before modern life in the beginning where all the little pointy hills are (when Ian's dad is talking about magic and wonder) that the smaller bnl ships also crash landed on the onward planet. We can then assume the Axiom, presumably the main ship lost contact with the rest of the fleet and eventually forgetting they exist. The ships could have had engine fails and nose dived into the onward planet. That's just my guess based on the theory about the other Axiom ship.
After the movie my dad said “I was trying to find the pizza planet truck and I was sure it would be in the highway scenes, but I couldn’t find it. Maybe it’s because it takes place on another planet because it had two moons”
That would also explain why they have a highway that leads straight to the mountain. They probably have a science lab there studying the different things and how they work and where to start.
My theory is that both Onward and Monsters INC happen in a parallel universe, a parallel Earth. They’re all “monsters” And they communicate with our Earth through the portals (doors with a complex system in Monsters INC). Maybe even they are in different time-lines in that Earth, with Onward being part of the past
I’m wondering if the habitants of the planet had access to information of peak human technology then why did they evolve their tech at the same rate as ours instead of going straight to the top?
When they learned what earth is from the axiom, they probably didn’t have a name or know what their planet was called. That is why they say earth in the movie.
If you research how we named our planet in different languages it is just us naming it after the ground we walk on It may be soil or ground in one language and it will also refer to our current planet
"Raven's Point is a PERFECT fit for a nose-dived, crash landing of an Axium." [Shows an overlay of ship and mountain, clearly revealing how imperfect the fit is] I don't mind the theory overall, but that Raven's Point is an Axium ship is very very iffy.
Do you really think that when the axium CRASHED it retained the perfect shape of an axium? It was a miracle that the axium retained as much shape as it did.
@@really.rhino12 I do agree that it's an Axiom but do you know how incredibly strong those are? Thing is like a kilometer tall and is just the shape of a boat, while something of comparable size, the Burj Khalifa, had to be incredibly engineered to be that tall.
