How Police Are Cracking Down on Counterfeit Goods 

Vice is obviously trying to associate counterfeit apparel with important items. The majority of counterfeit items aren't mechanical or medical products. They are apparel. Apparel companies charge outrageous amounts for their product, the average consumer of these high-end products will always want them but don't want to pay such ridiculous amounts. I didn't see a single police raid on this video where they took out counterfieters making important items like medicine or mechanical items. This documentary is such propaganda for the benefit of major apparel companies.

But the problem is the counterfeiting rings producing clothing are often the same ones producing fake medicine. As they said in the documentary, these rings use the funds from the basic "harmless" stuff to fund their other criminal activity.

yes and no, because the chemicals used to make handbags and jeans could cause long term health issues

This doc is really trying to conflate them. As if buying fake pills and fake shoes are on the same level.

@@nootboot9744 if you’re out there buying fake meds, that’s kind of on you.

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I found it a little confusing why The City of London Police were raiding shops in Manchester...

eBay too it's loaded w c goods

Ha! When pigs fly

Lol haha yea they dont arrest big corporations. It's funny that a few worst criminals are mostly in governments , pharma, corporations etc. But will never get arrested. Because you know when they blow up innocent people they dont consider that as terrorism.

Pretty much.

Then don't buy products from brands

@@incorrectstuffthingy5647 I guess I missed the part of my comment where I said I did

@@incorrectstuffthingy5647 Clearly you didn’t read the entire comment bozo

@@incorrectstuffthingy5647 What? How could one have not thought of that. Thank you for helping! 🤯 Oh sorry 🤡

Counterfeit products undercut the original products no matter the price point. Brand names earned their price tag, fake products have not.

I think as long as the counterfeit isn’t harmful to the user, like luxury bag, it is somewhat acceptable.

@@InvisiMan2006 aaaaa......WRONG

They’re excessive because they have a name brand. They’re luxury for a reason and they worked for their reputation. While the high price tags may encourage counterfeiting, that doesn’t make counterfeiting any less acceptable.

That *very* much oversimplification. Brand name products have to abide by various laws and standards, they have to answer to their customers, etc. Overall they in most cases have put a lot of work into their products and maintaining their brand. Most goods in market work with relatively small profit margins.

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Good ole fashion police, protecting corporate bottom line over making things affordable for the average consumer.

Only buy or by???

Didn't you hear the one cop? They are not paying taxes so we have to spend millions of dollars to go after them

Might be over priced for you but its like they say "you yet what you pay for" and all this chines copies of everything falls apart so....

How did the claim there is no diffrence?

When did they claim they’re the same at all? Quote it.

Joe Coles are you wearing counterfeit clothing?

@@tomlesnar6453 hell yea i am. if i can look fresh for a fraction of the price why wouldn’t i

They make it sound like destroying the soil with fake pesticides and wearing a fake t shirt are the exact same problem lol

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So much better than catching the real crooks out there 😊

They’re also helping people from getting scam. Some counterfeiters charge buyers the “real” price for a counterfeit item and people are not as smart as u think, that’s why these law need to exist. It’s not about the companies, they couldn’t care less unless they’re losing profit.

right? they act like they're helping us out. we WANT counterfeits.

Cough* airpods cough

well, there are some good reasons to pay to buy the real thing. Mostly to support businesses in your country. I wouldn't want my money to go to China as opposed to the smaller businesses that make them domestically. Especially on non-essential luxury goods.

The knock off is usually the same thing. You think the factory were they make the real thing stops producing when the made the full order?

@@fabiangonzalez-cortes8894 but all the small businesses make their money by sell you the same chines product at a huge mark up in my country its normal if you pay 2 dollar for the item in china you will sell them for 20-25 dollar in retail. we live in a world where there are more people they sell you stuff then make the stuff an example of that is i was to a job interview today and ask how many are working here there was about 30 people on the workline out of a total of 65 people. so 30 workers make what they sell. in my old job i did make tabels on my workstation i was able to get about one item troue pr minut but my salary was what corresponds to the sale of 1 table but I made about 2200 every week

If it’s fake. Say bye bye to tomorrow :)

Welcome to collecting Nike sneakers@ Just happy this wasn't a USA based doc lmao safe for another year with replicas

What?

@@wfpbwfpb he's saying he sells fake shoes bro like a scumbag.

nike: expensive trash fake nike: cheap trash

@@plantdaddy7738 pour one out for my boy Tony

I think there's an argument for luxury goods like handbags where the high prices is attached to designer names, but for brake calipers and contact lenses (sticking to examples from the video) I think the high prices are paying for actual research and development.

You would not realise who's the scammer until you have your own product that you have spent a lot of time, money, thought , testing, researching and then someone cut all that off and make a knock off it and sell it for have the price.

YES.

@@stdev. 🎯

It's a real product it / the fakes actually promote the real items but it takes jobs away from some people here in America. Also the paint could be toxic or some one could be exploited to make it

100% right I love this comment, I don’t see counterfeiting as that bad as long as the type product being faked won’t be harmful and the company is big enough to where they still make a massive profit. Things like fake medicine, chemicals, and car parts are obviously some of the more darker sides to the business but if your faking clothes and bags and stuff like that I don’t see it as bad normal people have to eat too and a lot of business have had success from being ruthless I say stick it to them and have normal people too. I know it will always be illegal but to be quite honest it’s a necessary evil that balances things out in a way kind of like the ying and the yang

Pretty much. This should have focused on the harmful, direct affect on people side of counterfeiting, and even when it focuses on the corporation side of it, focus on how small businesses and startups are being hurt, both of those will illicit some sympathy and concern from regular people. No one care if Nike and Ferrari lose money from counterfeit products.

They did use the Charlie Hebdo shooting/terrorist attack as an example where the trading of counterfeit clothing helped fund the attack. Something like this with actual deaths would be very rare but in the bigger picture its still helping crime organisations, who still make millions of victims ultimately.

Exactly, quite misleading

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Gifts

Alot of people can't afford ferraris yet still buy them for the status

counterfeits get into the supply chain in other ways, maybe the dealer working on your car puts them on and pockets the price difference, or maybe they're swapped by someone during shipping and the real ones are sold online.

@@breadman32398 I want what your smoking. I'm trying to picture a Ferrari dealer who is willing to risk the lives of his wealthy customers to make a (relatively) small gain with fake breaks, the second scenario u described literally is only an intro scene for a Nicholas cage film, not reality. Consumers usually order online knowing they are fakes or not, and thinking they are getting a great deal.

@@curiodyssey3867 maybe their brakes will fail them because their stupid

exactly like i doubt they'll show the markets in china that are selling them there not criminals just regular people

Companies all have a hand in politics and thus law enforcement. Companies hate to lose money, so they’re helping elect politicians who will have law enforcement go after things like this. Their interest in counterfeit medications is just due to big pharma and not out of concern to citizens, I’m sure.

every fake product is dangerous for the customers. fake shoes and clothing aren't regulated in any way so they contain lots of harmful chemicals, like for example lead. wearing them puts people at serious risk. counterfeit industry due to being illegal isn't regulated in any way so the products can contain any imaginable harmful material and be made with slave labor. romanticising fakes just because genuine brands aren't 100% ethical is just stupid and wrong. if you don't want to support genuine brands, spend your money on something thrifted or handmade.

The cops probably do go after the sellers of counterfeit products other than apparel, it just doesn’t show as well for these kinds of stories. When most people think about counterfeits they think about buying fake Louis Vuitton bags, Rolex watches and Nike sneakers out of little mom and pop stores in a big city not ordering Fake Ferrari brake calipers or fake Square D circuit breakers off of some e-commerce website

Also if the cops want an easy score that makes it look like they’re actually doing their job it’s easier to go after the small brick and mortar stores selling apparel versus trying to track down and raid a distribution warehouse for an e-commerce seller that specializes in parts for exotic cars

Ta da!! Winner...... .....if they can't tax it - they outlaw it. The government is working exactly as it was designed to. Exactly.

@@hyperliz2 You know that taxes support your education?

@@ligametis depends on where your from.

Nah bruh, we can't let people get away with a fake fucking sneaker 😐 Note: pls hint at my sarcasm

Corporations pay politicians to create and enforce these laws. No one pays to have murderers and rapists caught.

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I agree, as long as there's no safety concern I'm neutral on the topic, obviously with the calipers and pesticides fakers are the bad ones because they're unsafe.

"city of london police"

The enemy of my enemy is my friend...

@@Skylord12345 apple is the expert to ask when it comes to this lol

Fr like if it’s for clothes or if it’s something that’s not dangerous then make them buy it. The only thing Im against is if it’s batteries, electrical, and medicine

So what's the point of a company spending time, money, resources and filing patents ect, for someone else steal and copy the design. They might aswell wait for some other mug to do it and just copy there's. They've save fucking millions.

True statement they make it so expensive, only rich people can buy it to counterfeit is for poor people im against the medicine and electronic stuff

lol there argument was that the money made from selling fake products is being used for terrorism. What a joke. And if a terrorist was working for a corporate company, do we blame the company for giving him money??

@@alexcode22 ye they probably have a team to find a good media headline to have some sort impact to get more political power and pressure to stop counterfeit clothing*

It still has harm. Not paying taxes is legit one. You could say you wouldn't buy at all if there were no fakes, but in reality you would spend money legally elsewhere,

In that case, the concern isn't really about counterfeiting though. It's about safety and labelling requirements. If someone is selling a battery pack that's going to explode, it should be illegal no matter what logo they put on it.

You win most ignorant comment

I read this in a Morgan Freeman voice.

Except its stolen intellectual property....

@@ant9072 false, making a trashy, poor quality design and putting a Nike emblem on it would be stealing intellectual property. Making an identical replica is literally just making a copy, as Nike still owns the IP.

It is quite literally IP theft which is a huge fucking problem.

Precisely I wanted to buy some Nike football jerseys and they are $180 at Nike on dhgate and Ali baba. They are $13. It’s nikes fault honestly

If you can't afford don't buy it. It's very simple

@@tlatimes9251 Yeah...and who in this world messes with someone who's 'off brand'? Image is the issue. You can not buy it but if not buying it denies you an aspect of living due to social pressure, is there a reason for it?

BigBlack81 What social pressure? You’re just obsessed with logos and branding more than the actual item. There are many affordable decent stuff, just generic ones without the logos, but obviously people are too obsessed with looking rich when they actually aren’t.

wkxl don’t buy Nikes then

For real I’m a kid but I know if I can get something that looks and works the same for less you got a mf deal😂

You're dumb for spending $400 on some heels

Make sure she never finds out or it’ll ruin her life lol

Quality goods cost money. There is no excuse to steal another brand. Nobody is forced to buy $200 Nike shoes. You can buy very similar non-brand shoes for $30. Cheap shoe maker can sell cheap shoes but he cant put a Nike brand on it. Theres no excuse for thievery like this.

@@tubester4567 Well I'm using money to make money, i have 120 pairs of brand new Jordan shoes that cost me over $25,000 values over $50,000 .

When everything is made in China anyway, real or fake...

@45 fottuto stronzo BS. Theres 2 sides to this. There are many western brands of high quality like Versace, Gucci etc that are made from quality materials and many are made in western countries with high wages. Then theres the plastic nike shoes that are really no better than non-branded shoes, but even so, the materials used are usually better quality in original branded products. Either way, you're still a thief and a scumbag for stealing other people's IP and brand and theres no excuse for it. You're also helping the slave trade.

Maybe if people would buy from smaller brands and stop being obsessed with logos and brand name there wouldn’t be any counterfeit.

The moment you open the case it will be obvious if you're familiar with watches..you can't fake precision machining and construction. This is like trying to fake an iphone or computer.. The dial may or may not be more precise in terms of how it's replicated but the movement can't be faked.. You're not going to fake a tourbillion.. It's just too intricate to be produced without real cost

Itll take about 2 years and thats done as well. They're copying the entire movements as well now. It's down to the level of machining and decorating of the movement until itll be indistinguishable

They can only tell the ones they can tell.

So basically 98% of people can’t tell the difference yet some are worth a few dollars while others are worth thousands. That should tell you something.

As a watch collector I have experienced watches that are not fully original but with counterfeit parts, they are much more difficult to distinguish.

It's all about police saving time and resources without putting in the work

Medicine don't use counterfeit else the day u can't buy will come sooner lol

@@sidblore7529 thanks captain, you are probably a rocket scientist to compare these two

@@veaccara 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

In South Africa a nike t-shirt would cost u R50(3.10$)

Fake t

Why else does government exist?

You’re selling intellectual property that’s not yours. How would you feel if someone took your great idea and pretended it was theirs and sold it without your permission

@@jourdainsolis808 You are so wrong brother. Pick up a book

If you wrote a book, I’m sure you’d want it to be sold by others. What a statement? Intellectual property is property!

@@jourdainsolis808 Even college lecturer willing to photocopy original copy of "intellectual" books for affordable price.

@@jourdainsolis808 if my intellectual property created a multi-billion dollar empire like Nike has, street vendors making a living wouldn't bother me at all.

I live in the UK and I'm pretty sure we don't have a child sex trafficking problem.

Or maybe just buy from a smaller brand?

Much easier than print money.

The rep shoes are getting really good too

Yup here in NYC in China town! Canal street bruh you can’t even tell! Ppl line up to get those belts

if they're made with same materials in the same factory, it's literally real. it's just being not being sold under the license of a huge, massive corporation.

@@CarlyleKayla how much % u think/claim is the same quality?

are you talking about the original producers or the counterfeiters? in too many instances you were describing both

@@htopherollem649 ty

@@htopherollem649 nice :)

@@htopherollem649 sadly both

You know you can use that as an excuse when buying counter fit lol

Yeah not too many notice the expensive stuff anyways, it's more in the buyers mind

especially when the original cost of the sneaker is 80 bucks

@45 fottuto stronzo i mean they gotta profit somehow, still 80$ isnt cheap too

Well they are meant for rich people anyways

Mother of god...

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I hope they offer fast shipping...

@@josephstalin7353 🤣😂

You’re acting like poorer neighborhoods aren’t chock full of fake goods due to the lower price point. In NY I used to see people selling counterfeit tires and car parts.

Facts

Draw 4 years in prison lol

I chuckled lmaoo

@@jawaunharlan54 lmao

@@jawaunharlan54 LOL

Drgvht

Or maybe people should stop chasing brand names and hype and just buy generic?

If people stop being so obsessed with brand names and flexing, I’m sure the problem would stop completely.

@@nicholashadinata4571 true

yeah they don't want poor people to have nice things

"no you can't buy fake goods, the state can't tax and collect revenue on those goods nooooo"

the funny thing is most of the “premium” stuff isn’t high quality. sometimes even the counterfeits are manufactured in the same factory by the same exploited workers.

but they dont say what are the deaths n injuries from the real products.... its a one sided/useless report to make people too scared to buy the fakes

Eyasu Legesse if by “nice things”, you mean stolen brand image and logos, then yes they don’t want poor people to have them, they have generics for a reason.

You're literally paying for the name and logo and just some straight stitching and positioning if you're really fussy😆

Or maybe people should stop being so obsessed with brand value and buy generic stuff instead?

@@nicholashadinata4571 Ok...but counterfeiting harms those brands not the buyer lol

@@DocRealTalk yeah, brands need protecting too. Them being rich companies doesn’t make stealing their IP right.

@@nicholashadinata4571 I don't believe in IP rights lol I don't think people should be able to patent ideas and sell them for huge amounts of money. Especially when it comes to food and medicine. It's crazy that we have allowed humans to patent things we all need to live.

If people weren’t so obsessed with logos, counterfeits wouldn’t be so lucrative.

Not all counterfeit medicines are actually fake: Sometimes it's just grey-market imports. That happens a lot between the US and Canada - because of the obscene prices that pharmaceutical companies can charge American customers for essential drugs, some people turn to shady companies that just buy the drugs in Canada and then import them in the US - illegally, because those imports are not FDA certified. If your choice is between paying $200 a week for insulin through legal channels and $30 a week for dodgy internet insulin that is /probably/ the real thing... some people just can't afford the $200. They just have to take the risk and hope they aren't being scammed.

Maybe the fake stuff factories should make their own brand

lmaoooooo

He's a PI.

Genius 😂

Hong Kong is a Special Administrative Region

Well soon its about to be “Hong Kong Was a special administrative region”

@@pterodactylll keep telling yourself that...

I think you're right in a way but, I think people forget about the slave labour as well

Wrong, there’s the generics too. A shoe is a shoe right, it doesn’t need the logo.

I think it's about the money tbh and the slave labour

And why not buy from a different brand?

@HahThatsWhatSheSaid There's a term for it: "Copaganda." Why? Because the police had to cooperate with Vice to shoot this segment. And if Vice didn't make the police look properly heroic, and all their actions justified, then Vice isn't getting any such cooperation for their next story.

Why would You buy counterfeits if you know they're the same price

Yeah lmao r/repsneakers

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Well, no one forces you to buy them anyway

Not in our life-time. It's just going to be an oversized higher tech version of chinas social rate system.

That's 20$ American

you seem Prada of it..

@@sebp400 stfu dude i shouldnt be giggling this much at thi s

Agreed

They are all destroyed once the case is over and they are no longer needed as evidence. They can't be sold or even given away. Even the ones that don't pose any safety concern, like clothing, is still not authorised by the trademark holder - if the police were to give away a container full of counterfeit Nike trainers, that would drive the value of the real product down. Nike would immediately sue the police. And rightfully so as far as the law is concerned: Selling counterfeits is a crime, even for law enforcement. Sometimes the manufacturers even destroy their own legal product to maintain prices. That happened a lot in 2020, because of the pandemic launching a surprise recession on the world - with so many people fearing for their jobs, no-one wanted to buy luxury clothing. But to sell it off cheap would devalue the brand. That is, if just anyone can afford a Gucci bag, then who would want one? The whole point is that's it's an exclusive good, a status symbol. So excess stock just had to be shredded. The goods are always destroyed before landfill, to make sure that no-one in the waste disposal chain might fish them out. Usually that just means throwing them in an industrial shredder. Occasionally a big public event will be made of it with camera crews invited.