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How pouch Weight Affects Ammo Speed 

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Pouch Weight VS Ammo Speed
in this video, I will make 2 band sets exactly the same except the pouch weight, and we will see how much it will slow the ammo down. the difference in weight we will use is 0.21g.
the results might shock you.
#atomark #ammospeed #speedtest #8mmsteel #ato

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@superbalaur1297
@superbalaur1297 Год назад
Thank you for making this video and sharing it with the community so that everyone can see the importance of a lighter pouch! I mainly use 7mm, 1/4”(6.35) and 6mm steel balls and I can confirm that the smaller and lighter the balls, the bigger the difference between a lighter and a heavier pouch. It is also very important to note that if you are using the most efficient band set for a given ammo size/weight than the weight of the pouch will play a significant role in the overall speed that can be achieved. I believe this is one very important area in our hobby that is addressed by virtually none of the RU-vidrs posting about catapults.
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
I thought it was important and I wanted to share the information. Thanks for the comment
@canvandal4503
@canvandal4503 Год назад
Great test, brother! It’s stuff like this that is so valuable! Appreciate you taking time to do this, brother!
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
My pleasure bro. I just had to find out
@sniperslingslingshots1184
@sniperslingslingshots1184 Год назад
Great work Mark, we've always wanted to show how pouches would affect the speed too, pouches itself always easy to be ignored. Glad to see you did it in a clear way.👍 That's why we make the pouches as small as possible now, and the holes on the pouches affect a bit too.
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks man. Putting holes in them just makes sense. Smaller, lighter with less drag can only increase speed.
@jesterskull38
@jesterskull38 Год назад
Thank you for sharing, great testing
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks Moose
Год назад
You do very good informative work my Friend, I thank you for the effort you invest👍👍👍👍
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks my friend I appreciate it. When I have a question, I try to figure it out and then pass it on to my viewers. I am sure some people out there are having the same questions as me. Lol
@axsomoutdooradventures
@axsomoutdooradventures Год назад
Great test Mark. Super interesting
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks man.
@tonykenaston4048
@tonykenaston4048 Год назад
Interesting information, thanks
@wojpyz
@wojpyz Год назад
Very informative video Mark. Well done 👍🏻
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks bro
@kennethseio7346
@kennethseio7346 Год назад
Very cool and unique test. I'd imagine an oversized pouch fighting the aerodynamics doesn't help but ya weight is weight proved here.
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Ya thats what I was thinking. I tried ro gwt them as close as possible.
@randycassidy198
@randycassidy198 Год назад
Awesome info!
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks man
@emmanuel4902
@emmanuel4902 Год назад
Excellent video 👍
@jayedannholmes6367
@jayedannholmes6367 Год назад
I like your videos there's a lot of good information thank you very much.
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks man. Are you in?
@AmericanSlingshot
@AmericanSlingshot Год назад
Great video!! Always top notch information from ATO.
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks Steven!
@youtubetube469
@youtubetube469 Год назад
Thanks for the info my friend👍👍😍🤝
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
My pleasure
@Ttftalk
@Ttftalk Год назад
Awesome video again!
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks man
@SensitivityIsland
@SensitivityIsland Год назад
Great stuff thnx. Quality.
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks man
@stuart3744
@stuart3744 Год назад
Excellent stuff Mark , i don’t think anyone else has done this test
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
I have never seen it. I wanted to compare apples and apples, so I did the test with exactly the same setup except the pouch while keeping with the 8mm setup. I think it worked out well.
@forkshootertb96
@forkshootertb96 Год назад
Good job Mark! I used larger pouches when I started and have gravitated towards smaller ones. I get a better release plus seems like it would have to be a little less drag which probably makes more difference than I realized.
@kevinwilliamlowe3050
@kevinwilliamlowe3050 Год назад
Great test! I enjoyed it. I have thought the same way. Some of my old leather pouches are way heavy compared to the wasp microfiber. I done a similar test on the chrony with the tag ends of the bands. The speed pick up with closely trimmed was a lot more than I woulda thought.
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
I was kinda shocked that just a tiny little difference in weight would make that much of a difference. But it does. It has convinced me to look at my setup a little different. I prefer the feel of leather but maybe I could go to a thinner pouch. For example I shoot a 1.5mm thick pouch but if I could reduce it to .75mm it might make a difference and still give the feel I like.
@joix6334
@joix6334 Год назад
Could i ask you where you have purchased such pouches? Thanks
@danielgreen3715
@danielgreen3715 Год назад
Interesting video! ..I use a fairly large pouch as i shoot 9.5/10 mm Steel and like to have something to hold on to as i find that the pouches i get from The Band Manufacturers GZK and Snipersling are a bit small for my Ammo so have to make my own out of leather and they are about as wide as my index finger and work for me quite well but I do realise that I am trading some speed for it although I reckon that the Jules of energy dumped on target is still sufficient for small Game and Pigeons etc Cheers for the video if you know of any supplier who sells decent sized pouches in leather i would be interested in trying them out
@S.Y-a-ok
@S.Y-a-ok Год назад
As usual Bro, a very interesting vid. My favourite pouch is as precious to me as my catty's. 🙂 Be well Mark.
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Me too man. Take it easy bro
@ChuckinSteel
@ChuckinSteel Год назад
Awesome video brother
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks man
@ChuckinSteel
@ChuckinSteel Год назад
@ATO I can still remember when I moved to the small micro pouches. I could actually tell a difference.
@HegartySlings
@HegartySlings Год назад
Nice test Mark . I once was out with 2 identical setup, apart from one had a leather pouch, the other a microfiber, both pouches were cut using the same die . Shots from the leather setup dropped short of target, microfiber was bang on .
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
I actually had 2 of the same pouches . One leather and one synthetic. The difference was .03g I thought it might have been too little of a difference but maybe not. It was surprising the difference in speed. I wish I would have bought exact microfiber and leather pouches to do the test but I think the results were still pretty telling.
@MiccaPhone
@MiccaPhone Год назад
@@ATOMark Well, considering an 8 mm steel ball weighs 2.1 g, an additional 0.3 g of pouch weight slows down the ball as much as if the steel ball weighted 0.3 g more, i.e. 2.4 g. Quick calc: 240 fps = 73 m/s for 8 mm ball (2.1 g) yields energy of 5.6 Joule. Same energy for a 2.4 g ball is achieved for a speed of 68.3 m/s = 224 fps. So your test results line-up pretty well with theoretical expectations.
@andywoessner2604
@andywoessner2604 Год назад
Very interesting info.... are you going to do a review on the axiom x?
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks man. Yup it is on the list.
@maximogonzalez4649
@maximogonzalez4649 Год назад
Thanks for another video. I can tell you feel comfortable using that slingshot. I also like seeing it in action.👌👊🙏✌
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Ya man. I really like this one. It shoots great
@MrWolfgang2
@MrWolfgang2 Год назад
Great video. Really well thought through
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks man.
@rgilroy1909
@rgilroy1909 Год назад
great tests brother, thanks for sharing
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks man
@chriscraft1245
@chriscraft1245 Год назад
Interesting findings.
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks man
@MiccaPhone
@MiccaPhone Год назад
What if you use double instead of single bands? Shouldn't this provide double the force, implying same speed for twice the total mass of ammo + pouch? Greetings from Germany, awesome video series!
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
I believe you would get the same results. Faster overall speeds, but there would still be a difference in speed with the heavier pouch.
@mannynieves493
@mannynieves493 Год назад
Very good video.
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks man
@richardsmith3199
@richardsmith3199 Год назад
i used to use those nylon labels from clothes look into it super light
@richardsmith3199
@richardsmith3199 Год назад
you need to stitch two eylets into the material use kevlar thread
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Interesting. I may need to try this.
@the-catty-cult
@the-catty-cult Год назад
Interesting video. Got me thinking what the performance difference is testing degree by degree temperature wise. Fastest tapers, fastest bands, time bands held stretched, best matches to ammo sizes. The list could go on forever! We need a scientific slingist lab technician
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
I would be comfortable in saying that the speed would increase or decrease like usual but the difference between the 2 would remain the same. When I did cold and warm weather tests with 2 different ammo, the speed difference would increase with both sizes but equally at 40fps for example. It was very interesting.
@TheGreatest1974
@TheGreatest1974 Год назад
Good experiment. I’ve noticed the Chinese use extremely light pouches? They give themselves every single advantage in their set up. They like to shoot smaller ammo too. And when you watch them on RU-vid they are crack shots with their catty’s. 👍🇬🇧
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Oh ya, I believe the Chinese are the leaders in the sport.
@mayjoserna6665
@mayjoserna6665 Год назад
Con el frio en el que estas y hacer estas pruebas, solo demuestran el grado de pasion que existe en tu persona por la resortera... Slingshotmania a las olimpiadas. Excelente informacion. Saludos desde Mexico
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Thanks Jorge the passion is real bro
@MiccaPhone
@MiccaPhone Год назад
Really the discipline should become olympic.
@DjGlenJon
@DjGlenJon Год назад
Oh yes i went from a 1g pouch to a 0.3g it makes a way bigger difference than you'd think. #wyc
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Yup it really does. Only .2 of a gram adding 8fps doesn't seem like much but with a gram difference you could be looking at 40+ fps. That's huge
@infinitetutorial9506
@infinitetutorial9506 Год назад
Slingshot world The book is available from which website???
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
slingshot-world.ecwid.com/
@Jairoambriz
@Jairoambriz Год назад
💥💥💥👍
@flingshotlife
@flingshotlife Год назад
Ato thank you for showing the study.. Yes pouches make a difference to me! Some of the best pouches I have used so far is the #fowler, Warrior pouches, and super sure. Hey everyone just get outside and try these different setups. Get out of those dark holes and HUNT THE Good!
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
I love the warrior mongol pouches. They are great!
@jansam300
@jansam300 Год назад
Nice job Mark! Agreed. Pouch material can make differences with shooting speed. In my opinion, other than the pouch weight and material, the design or shape can affect the shooting speed. So far, the microfiber is better in term of speed.
@erniear1122
@erniear1122 Год назад
Where do you buy the slingshot bands
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
I used jinpu .45 in this video. I get them at precisebands.com
@infinitetutorial9506
@infinitetutorial9506 Год назад
How is the sheshou 0.65 bands?
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
They are nice. Really good in the warm
@infinitetutorial9506
@infinitetutorial9506 Год назад
@@ATOMark thank you
@infinitetutorial9506
@infinitetutorial9506 Год назад
Plz! Tell me sir.
@ATOMark
@ATOMark Год назад
Catty shack catapults
@infinitetutorial9506
@infinitetutorial9506 Год назад
Sir,tell me one thing gongchi green or white which is better?
@leoweeks9028
@leoweeks9028 Год назад
Thx for sharing Don't think you'd look good w a patch. Grab some glasses! Think about a young boy or girl losing eye after you creating interest ?!?! Just saying
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