What is the power level of the different characters in Arcane? Let's find out! A lot of these Arcane power levels are debatable so if you disagree feel free to explain why. #arcane #jinx #arcanenetflix
the child Jayce murdered is the strongest character and here's why: this kid ate a blast from Jayce's ranged hammer attack, then fell like a hundred feet and landed directly on his back, AND STILL was alive for a few brief moments. if the height this kid fell from was any shorter he would have survived because it seemed like the hammer and the fall BARELY managed to kill him
@@ximienlundquist8487 He was alive long enough that Jayce was able to get down that same distance while walking. At least Jayce was walking up to the kid on the ground, and he was never shown to parkour down any distance, so he had to find a lift or stairs?
"Power, real power, doesn't come to those who were born strongest, or fastest, or smartest. No. It comes to those who will do anything to achieve it." -Silco
Nice work! I do think I'd swap some things as the only reason that Vi without gauntlets didn't beat Sevihka without sword was because Sevihka managed to thow Vi mentally off-balance and stab her during her confusion. I think these two should be considered pretty much on par. Although Vi as a kid probably should be in place where you put her
@@cloud9296 It matters, but this one only situationally. under different circumstances, that factor wouldn't have applied, or might have been reversed, so I'm not inclined to use when weighting these two (it's not like Sevihka is characterised as someone who pulls strings like that all the time so I don't consider that a part of her strenght)
tbh you cant really compare power levels. For example, it is stupid to put Vi above Caitlyn. They simply do completely different things. Whereas Vi would obviously beat her in a melee fight, Caitlyn could kill her from a mile away with her perfect aim. Very similar for jinx vs ekko
About vi with gauntlets, when she was a Teen she also beat like 6 adults who were way bigger than her using Vander's "gauntlets". When attempting to save Vander from silco. So that shows how strong she was even without hextech
I'd definitely put pre-shimmer Jinx way lower - we even get that scene where she trains in the "arcade" she couldn't beat Vi's high-score, which she had set when she was a child
He is not only considering body strength, but also her weapons, bombs, traps and stuff, but this also makes the list feel kind of inconsequential. You can't really take into consideration Singeds and Heimers knowledge/tech, but ignore Silcos influence and stuff. On personal level I would currently consider neither Singed nor Heimer that powerful. I doubt that Arcane Heimer can summon high level combat turrets out of nowhere like the LoR and LoL Heimers can for example.
@@user-nc3px6hn4n A scientist yordle who does not use magic because he is traumatized by it? Most known Yordles do not even use magic that much and use technology instead. Just being nearly immortal does not give you personal combat strength. One Yordle by itself is not that powerful, Teemo and others got locked up by Graves quite easily.
@@Priestofgoddess I understand what your claim is, but you have to mindful that even though he hasn't used magic et because of his present beliefs, he, in the future will use magic which will make him stronger. He is already strong since he is a scientist, he is extremely smart. As if for right now in Arcane, he would be almost the lowest ranked.
Exactly He considered jinx with her bombs, weapons and all stuff and the list doesn't really seems fair to me because their fight style is not really comparable that much
Pretty good list, though I think Vi is ranked a little low in both instances. I'd put her without gauntlets above Sevika*, seeing as she did win that fight, and I'd put her with gantlets above Jayce, since their weapons are comparable but she has more fight training, experience, and conditioning than he does. This means Vander would have to be up higher, too.
i think singed should be a bit more down the list because sure he invented a bunch of crazy tech but i personally dont see him als the fighting type of guy. i feel like he would give others his inventions to fight the fight for him. lol
No he has chem weapons that eat through armor and kill you no matter how strong you are. He should probably be at the top the dude has commited war crimes.
@@monkeybomb1232 honestly, yeah. If we look into lore and not just arcane, singed is at the top. He has brilliance to match Heimerdinger with NONE of the moral hangups. No morals at all really. He experiments on and augments his own body to be able to fight too. I would put him twice above Heimer if we go off lore.
I know the game isnt representative to stengts (a god is weaker than some dude with a gun) but it still shows that singed can fight. I think that should be canon. And if he can fight we know he can use all his weapons so he is powerfull.
@@itsgonnabeokay9341 maybe, but damage wise singed has more potential, so he can outmatch everyone except heimer/yordles. But most of the people living in piltover aren't yordles. So it's about how you define the strongest. Beeing immortal doesn't make him the strongest in my eyes. Singed would bathe the hole city in some of his chemical inventions, if it's necessary to be the "strongest". If Heimer buys 5 x Rabbadons then maybe he's stronger, but only then ;)
Hey bro big fan but just one thought. I think the most powerful character in arcane is the being who saved jayce and his mother in ep 2. Would love to read your thoughts about it.
@@kyuzairen5383 its not ryze. He is blue and has tattoos. Probably just a random freljordian mage, there's like hundreds of them hiding from demacia in freljord
A lot of people go "Vi only got stabbed from being distracted" or "Sevika would've killed Vi by crushing her neck" but can we talk about how: Vi without gauntlets still managed to land hard hits, cause bruises, have Sevika down on her knees or on the ground, throw her against walls (the concrete one btw), throw not just one but a series of punches whenever possible, and ALL THAT while Sevika had her metal Shimmer-fueled arm? Even against a weaponized arm that has a sword human Vi sure put up a good fight and dragged it out. And when Vi was in her teens, Sevika was already an adult so seeing a Vi in her 20s fighting well against a grown-ass woman already speaks volumes! Vi without gauntlets may be on the lower end but she is still a force to be reckoned with as a human. If this were based on no weapons, hextech, and Shimmer OR a comparison that doesn't include the first two, Vi would be at a higher place.
Also we aren’t talking about that one time Vi landed the punch that brought that huge (albeit incredibly unstable) tower when Silco tracked down her and Caitlyn
@@cavejohnson9071 As an old League fan, the way I gasped when I first saw Vi punch Urgot and make him topple over without any gauntlets in the Warriors 2020 cinematic!
Honorable mentions: Heimerdingers dog: - can use the power of 1294861 gods to summon an mythical oath of the runeterra gods to annihilate your organs - can bite you in your D Jayce without the hammer: - *S E X T E C H* - haggling Chuck: - is doing great
Vi is a better figther, but the Hammer is so much better than the glove, the glove were supposed to be a working tool while the hammer is his dream hero weapon design for combat
@@greywarden5513 Not true. Jayce with the hammer is actually quite fast to swing, but it comes off slower than Vi's punches. Vi has awesome reflexes which also gives her a big chance at winning. Jayce is also much bigger than Vi which is an advantage. I would say, she IS fast enough to dodge.
Great analysis, but still, I think Vi should have been higher up the list, especially if we take into consideration the fact that even after 10 years of Vi marking her best score on that punching machine, Jinx wasn't able to beat it
I was VERY surprised when you put pre Shimmer Jinx above Vi without gauntlets considering that punching machine scene showed that she still couldn’t beat her high score.
There is more to power than physical strength. Jinx is a crack shot and competent engineer with an affinity for explosives - not to mention highly intelligent and very difficult to predict in a fight.
When Vander fought the shimmer beast hadn't he already been kinda worn out in general? Vander also had gauntlets as his signature weapon when he was a fighter, I'd think he stands much more of a chance in an even fight.
Hearing your laugh in two separate videos is what made me subscribe. Joking, it was the way you dig into the Arcane universe with your oddly soothing voice and your charisma talking about it. But the laugh was definitely a cherry on top. Looking forward to more from you in the future!
I almost had an aneurysm when you got to number 1, because the only main character I could think of that you hadn't mentioned was MEL and BOY WAS I CONFUSED
Viktor in later seasons bout to come back with a vengeance. Edit: Idk how Riot will adapt Heim's power into the show, but the scene with the little girl might be a hint that he can just outright produce machines/inventions with whatever materials he has, at least thats how i interpreted it being an avid reader of league lore before Arcane popularity. List is pretty accurate.
I know you said this took a lot more time but I really enjoy the longer form videos, please keep making videos like it your efforts are appreciated. And believe it or not and as small as it is, you do have a fan base/community
Appreciate the list and continued Arcane content. Not sure how Sevika is above bare handed Vi when we literally watched Vi win that fight but keep up the good work.
No gauntlet Vi beat Sevika.... She was stabbed when distracted by her sister, but she had Sevika down and done. You're also ranking on hypotheticals, this list is pretty silly, mostly conjecture.
Sevica only lost because she didnt want to kill vi for whatever reason. She had her by the throat with a mechanical arm capable of squishing her neck apart vi was dead in that moment if she wanted it the power difference in that fight was huge because of that arm.
@@monkeybomb1232 Vi was able to break free from her grip and Sevika wanted to burn her face while choking her if anything Vi could had killed her because she was bashing Sevika's head into walls. I can kinda say Sevika could had killed Vi in the second fight when Vi was down but then again her arm gave out and she needed to reload it. Again Vi could had killed her when Sevika was passed out. Vi should had been higher than her.
@@Jassiij27 she could have killed vi without the gauntlets any of that time and she didn't even have the mood to kill vi she wanted to play(suffer) vi first before killing her but she underestimated vi
The person on the video specifies he is making hypothesis to make a list that does not harm anyone, a random person like yourself gets offended and cry about it “😭it’s pretty silly is all conjecture”
Depends on distance imo. Obviously Ekko is more strong (big men vs small woman) but Jinx fighting with guns so it not matter realy. With z drive is different story tho.
Ekko has been losing to Jinx for years. The only reason he “won” was because he baited Jinx into playing a childhood game that he has planned for. And then he couldn’t even finish the job. pre-Shimmer Jinx > pre-zdrive Ekko
@@Vry9 Jinx is a prodigy when it comes to guns. Trust me, if Ekko had a gun too, Jinx would still win. Melee vs. Melee? Like you said in your earlier comment, Ekko is naturally stronger than skinny Jinx. Ekko would most likely win, probably even though Jinx has shown great reflexes and strength for a girl her size.
Losing to Jinx for years? He won every “fight” they had. Firelights show up to destroy shimmer, destroy shimmer Firelights show up to grab Vi n Caitlyn from Jinx, do so Ekko dodges Gatling gun fire before slapping it from her grip, manages to turn around only to dodge pistol fire and steal back the gem. Then dodges bullets (even if he knew they were coming that’s a feat) then he lays her down and it’s his mercy/ emotions that save Jinx’s life.. Where did Jinx beat him?
I watched the entire video waiting for heimerdinger to be placed at somewhere, I nearly thought that he had lesser power than the child that Jayce murdered
Heimerdinger would win in a fight against Viktor - because Viktor would die of his illness before Heimerdinger decided whether or not to actually fight.
Also the fact that Sevika not only has the shimmer arm, she has a fully functional mind. A shimmer beast can't really think strategically like Sevika can
Hi, so they will be introducing other regions soon! They have slightly introduced Ionia and Noxus when Mel Medarda's mother came, so it's happening soon!
Great list, man. I agree with a lot of what you say, and even if I didn’t agree on something, I appreciate how much thought you put into this to make it fair.
We didn't get to see it but I think gauntlet Vi would kick Jayce's ass, she has real fighting experience while he swings his hammer like a scientist; god I love the animation details
Nah, they establish pretty clearly that Jayce would have obliterated Vi if they fought. He was turning the force field on and off consciously, she didn't even know the gauntlets had one and when she did, she went from getting shit stomped to instantly winning. Thinking about it, Jayce vs Sevika would have lasted less than 3 seconds, Vi wouldn't do much better.
Bro your video's are really fun to watch your editing and commentary are on point! And i just realised that you started end of december?! Keep up te good work bruv you really deserve more!
one of jinxs greatest strengths is anyone who wants to kill her cant because shes silcos daughter and all of the people who would kill her are connected with powder and cant do it
I think you did my girl Vi pretty dirty here. She beat Sevika in both fights and she would wipe the floor with Jayce if she had her gauntlets, she's just way better trained than he is. I'm actually a tiny bit triggered by the fact that Jayce is such a good fighter out of nowhere, like we've literally never seen him fight so much as a toddler and then suddenly he's holding his own with a bunch of superhuman shimmer goons? I can pretty easily overlook it because the scene is such a good time, but if I feel like being extra critical then I have to say that his ability does not feel earned in the slightest. And that's weird, considering that this show is generally very good at making a character's abilities feel earned. I also feel like we should take into consideration whether Vi's gauntlets can deflect bullets, which I wouldn't be surprised if they can (she does have the shield but I'm talking about the gauntlets themselves). We don't know that for sure so this is hypothetical, but if they can then that would skyrocket her up the rankings because suddenly all of the characters with ranged capabilities would have to deal with the possibility of her getting in their face and I don't think a single one of them could go toe to toe with her like that. She could snap basically all of them like twigs. Anyway, Vi supremacy. That's all.
@@aperson9847 no, in fact i read the whole comment and i agree with the Jayce stuff, the last sentence just proves that you just want Vi higher because she is ur fav (+ i also liked ur comment bc of the Jayce stuff so)
@@trulyvortex Okay so you saw that I have actual objective reasons why she deserves to be higher and why I think the video did her dirty. We don't have head to head fights against many characters so most of the video is pure speculation, but a huge exception to this is Vi and Sevika who fight each other twice. Vi wins both times and yet she is ranked lower than Sevika twice. Vi doesn't have to be my favorite to see how that makes no sense at all.
Nice work! But I do wonder we’re Mel’s mom would go seeing as you didn’t rank her. Could she beat cevika or would she be stopped by something like a shimmer beast?
Your effort way paid off! I really enjoyed this video and all your points were well thought out and well made. Your word choice is also very fun so I was smiling through the whole video. The end ran while I was writing this and when I heard the “go fuck yourself” I swear to god I laughed my ass off. A loud laugh, like drew the attention of people on the street laugh. I love this channel youve got great stuff
I disagree with the placings with jinx before her shimmer augmentations ranking higher than ekko. He literally beat her with sub par difficulty. He was ready to kill jinx, but not powder. If he let those ties go, and kill her before she ever got the chance to pull the pin off her grenade, we wouldn’t even get augmented jinx.
Honestly the difference between sevika with normal arm, shimmer beasts, and vander is weird, cause Vander and vi lose to a shimmer beast, and sevikas arm strength would probably get her the win, but with how close vi was to beating sevika with normal arm, I think Vander could’ve beaten her
No I think vi was already stronger than Vander when she was an adult. because sevika arm was already powerful and it probably surpass the shimmer beast because sevika shimmer is probably improve and enchance her abilities without turning into a monster and vi was still struggling to fight sevika because sevika didn't feel that much pain from vi punch but vi was able to keep up sevika so in my opinion and conclusion vi and sevika is already stronger than Vander there practically the fighters with enchanced ability
@@reekerman1012 Sevika arm was powered with shimmer. Those shimmer bots were literally inhaling the fumes of shimmer, they were completely drugged off of shimmer to the fact where they had no control of their body movements. If Vi easily took out them, she COULD take out someone who isn't completely drugged and powered.
@@user-nc3px6hn4n one problem the shimmer beast vander took on was completely taken over by it his entire body was boosted Sevika only had a shimmer powered arm Besides vander taught VI how to fight and has many years of experience I highly doubt he could take on the first SB without her gauntlets
If Heimerdinger wins 1st place simply "because Yordle", then the brothel madam and the Yordle in the gimp suit should be up there as well. I would argue that you need two rankings: The barroom brawl ranking, where the fight starts spontaneously, there's no prep time (and no specialized equipment that you don't always carry with you), and you're in extremely close range. The other is the planned fight, where you start at at least opposite sides of an arena, and you have all the prep time you need.
What I find the most controversial is ranking Sevika 3 ranks above an unarmed Vi, when she literally lost that very fight which also makes it rather questionable weither she would have really been able to stand a chance against Vander. I was initially thinking something similar about Ekko and Jinx, but I think you made a fair point. It indeed felt like a fight Jinx had fun with were she was not going full thrust.
Vi beat up Sevika without her gauntlets she only lost because she got distracted by her talking about Jinx but she was clearly the better fighter she already beat her with the surprise attack and Sevika only stayed in the fight because of her arm, then Vi adapted to the arm and beat her again even though she took some heavy punishment from the metal arm she could still use her mobility and strength and fighting experience to beat Sevika. Also I'd say Caitlyn is too high.
Good vibes I feel like this list will change a lot with session 2 as we will most definitely at some point see Vi and Jinx fight and it will probably be a close fight
So, I just wanna say that Singed (while inventing weapons) isn't associated with anything specific. Most likely, any weapon he made would be unweildly for him, and shimmer might cause more damage (My backing for both of these points is that he's frail.) His axlotl thing isn't a weapon. Unless we're including living weapons here, (which nobody other than him has, being honest) I don't see him winning many fights. He'd probably be lower than Silco, on the sheer physical side, since Silco has at least gone against Vander, even if he lost. Also, I feel like Ekko and Vi should be put closer to/ if not above Jinx. Ekko is a ranged fighter, showing skill in evasion and hiding when he's with the firelights. HOWEVER, it is important to keep in mind that he grew up in the same place, at the same time as Vi and Jinx, so he could have evolved over time. It would also take immense strength to build a safe place like he did, and he took down Jinx in close combat, where she set off one of her grenades. Vi is a powerhouse. Jayce didn't want to fight her (when she had her gauntlets) because she was so strong. The only thing keeping her from fighting Jinx is her sympathy. Her sentiment and trauma are what's stopping her from doing anything drastic. Yes, Jinx is strong, but she lacks control. She shoots sparatically, and is interrupted/ disturbed by trauma/ flashbacks often. Her explosives would do damage to herself in close combat, and she would easily be stripped of her guns (Though, that doesn't matter, because Ekko can dodge BULLETS and Vi can block stuff with her gauntlets). Don't mind the typos, I don't feel like editing this.
I believe Vi with gauntlets is much stronger than Jayce with hammer. Maybe it's cause I'm simping but it feels like Vi beats anyone she encounters lmao.
I don't see Sevika above Vi as she lost her first fight and only got the upperhand because she stabbed when they were talking. Despite Vi getting surprised by Sevikas enhancement. Singed, in Season, could be pummeled by kid Vi. ^^; Ekko against Jinx on the bridge beat Jinx. Which wasn't a play fight, but Ekko remembering Jinx pattern from the past to dodge when he is fighting her in the now. I don't see Heimerdinger as powerful... maybe because he is sooo fluffly and he didn't like raise a hand ^^;
She didnt lose the first fight. She just decided not to kill vi and lost because of the handicap. Had her by the throat with the mechanical claw could have squished her neck right in two. The power difference the arm makes is huge. Second fight vi was holding back using the real power the gauntlets had.
ekko can go back in time that is what happened. but when he lost his machine he wasnt able to and it has a ery small time limit , that is why he screamed in 4 episode when that lady was killled by jinx cause she was out of the time line
@@delusionofillusion473 He will be able to go back in time after his and Heimerdingers experiments but isn't yet. He screamed because the girl that got killed was a good friend of his, who went straight up the memorial wall. The timer timed the time the yellow stuff would keep the goons contained.
@@monkeybomb1232 I watched the episode recently and don't remember a time where she could have just broke Vi's neck. For which one needs two hands. Which I see further confirmed as she would have killed why if Caitlyn didn't shot her shimmer load. In general the fights of Vi got the "problem" that Vi doesn't fight to kill in any of the fights she had. Which made the last fight with Sevika,.. strange. With drinking pauses and all ^^
Ok ok ok hot take time but I think Vander should have been higher on the list. Let’s review shall we From the very first moment of the show we see he’s a fighter. Beating an enforcer like it’s nothing. After that he decided that the fight wasn’t worth it all left with powder and Vi. From what the show shows and tells us Vander is the head of the underground, or “the hound of the underground” as he’s called in the show. He rebuilt it after the war with piltover. Now the under-city being the place that it is, their had to be people that didn’t like Vander and how he was running things, so we can assume that between when the show starts and the days before his death that he got into his fair share of fights with one or more members of the underground, which he clearly won. Now when we see Vander the days before he dies, he’s seen as a respected figure, being the leader and all. Not just for the reputation he’s built up protecting everyone, but for being the guy that you don’t want to mess with. Notice how everyone In the last drop is ready to fight with him, because they know that to do otherwise would result in nothing but a prime beat down. Now let’s talk about Vander Vs the shimmer monster. We have to take into account that at that point In the story Vander was far from his strongest. First off, the shimmer monster clearly roughed Vander up and gave him a few good punches when he was by Benzos shop while he was in cufs, then he got hit with an explosion to the front of his body, the sheer force must have done a bit of a number, then a roof fell on him, which must have hurt like the high heaven, THEN he somehow mustered the strength to PUSH THE ROOF OFF HIS BODY and give the shimmer monster a really good run for its money. And after the monster threw him to the ground, Vander got back up and was ready to fight again, by now you could see the monster was starting to wane, and lose his footing. I think that if silco didn’t come and stab him, Vander could have taken the monster. All of this, and we haven’t even mentioned that when he was fighting, we never once got to see him use his signature weapon, his cast iron gauntlets in the present day. Those are what he’s been fighting with for his adult life, and must have packed some punch. I mean did you see the way the ground shuck and cracked when he dropped them to take Vi and powder to safety? Those had to have hurt a lot more, and packed more of a punch then those little knuckle dusters he was using when fighting the monster. All of this being taken into account, I think Vander should have been put higher on the list. Somewhere around Ekko. All I’m saying is that you don’t get the name “the hound of the underground” for nothing.
Personally, I think vi is so much higher on the list. She fighted so many people and won. When jinx used that machine to see how strong she was vi was still at the top which shows jinx/powder is weaker than teen vi. And teen vi was strong so think about how strong vi is now.
I don't know... Based on Singed's reaction when Silco threatened him with a scalpel, I'd think he's not that much of a fighter to be onest. I'm sure he's got his gadgets for when he knows he's in trouble, but I bet you he'd rather relocate or something rather than fight. The closest thing to fighting I could see him do is poison people (or something along the lines) in advance, so he doesn't actually need to face them head on (as he most likely wouldn't win in such a fight by himself alone)... Anyway, like you said he could onestly be anywhere in the list.
In lore Singed takes on an entire country by himself, killed most of if not all of them frontline Ionian soldiers, he's the main villian for most of the Ionians champs lore. Might change in arcane but i doubt they would change the ionian - noxus war considering Mel's mom and all
@@highsun76 yeah it's true and the worst part is that's not even the only bad thing he has done. Not only is he the responsible for the most of the ionians ptsd he's also done some pretty effed up things to zaunites
@@highsun76 In Arcane S1 Singed is still in his rather early and weak stage, but if they stay somewhat true to his lore in the game, he'll become extremely lethal, not to mention he was the first character ever to be created for this universe.
5:39 he loses because he basically carries the rest of his team which have what are appropriately call “side character level power” And he goes up against tire ranked characters he usually multiple coupled with them and their lackies for this reason he loses however I would say he could solo because he did absolutely rock jinx the most unpredictable catastrophic character in the entire series Although she is very predictable is an outside view I do not much like jinx but for the sake of the show will see she’s unpredictable it is very difficult to deal with and he beat her
Honestly your stupid joke with the child jayce killed at the start actually made me laugh it was really funny got my like already not even a min in :D btw. I wonder if mels mom, since you didnt include her, could give vander a run for his money? (maybe even gauntel vi if she herself is armed since she is a litteral warlord)
I think vander should be a bit higher as you said “if they are seen with this weapon” and vander is seen with the metal glove-cast iron things, which if he had at the time I believe he could have beaten decklen on shimmer due to concussive force and I think he could also beat Sevika with the glove cast iron things, (if he was alive at the time of course) as he could use them to crush her arm instantly and maybe even be a bit higher than that (also why aren’t mylo and claggor on here?)
The whole point of Arcane series was to show that real strength lies in pure heart; that it can never be beaten up; a pure hearted person is always victorious in the end; they always land the final victory blow. Thus, the pure hearted lil kid Jinx was, is and will be the most powerful character in Arcane.
Dunno if I can be on board with Ekko and Jinx assessment. Really though, any given fight, it's not about the strength that decides who wins. In this show a lot of people are very similar in power. It's more about what drives the plot. Same goes for a lot of action movies. The person who wins is the one that makes the story more interesting, not who is more powerful.
It's actually what I liked most about the fight scenes in Arcane - most of them were fairly evenly matched, one party not overwhelmingly stronger than the other - even if the plot demanded one of them to win, the other still got their fair share of punches in.
An okay list. But I think you missed out on including experience. Like Vi, she spent years in jail, who knows how many fights she had to do on the daily in there. And yes while pre shimmer Jinx is strong she's a glass cannon, she dodges hits but once taking a hit or two she goes down easy. Jayce I say just barely managed to hold his own but in a real prolonged fight there's no way he'd be able to keep up with the rest of the cast. But that's my thinking on it.
Where would you put Vi WITH gauntlets though???? Also, excited to see your take on Glorious Evolution Viktor... and I 100% agree, the kid Jayce murdered beats them all
I liked the video until a point... Heimerdinger. I can understand what you mean... But I think it would have definitely better to talk only series perspective since we for example don't know Jinx without shimmer in LoL. The shimmer beast and Vander aren't even in the game. Soi find it unfair to rank from series AND lore. So Heimerdinger would normally be maybe the last one on the list. But what I find interesting is also the ranking of Silco. When I first heard that I was confused but based on true strength you might be right. But thinking about him being Able to survive seemingly the bridge fight ep. 1 and survive Vander trying to drown him and damaging him would tell me otherwise meaning he is able to defend himself properly. What I also found interesting was Jinx twice. And being on top of the list. You gave her a spot that high up without calling her ability to manipulate/act. I loved that. Since most probably would rank her under Vi since the series always gave the feeling that Jinx was weaker then Vi
If you include league lore, several characters would need to be moved up tbh. Caitlyn doesnt have her hextech rifle yet, vi and jayce barely used their weapons etc.. Jinx is probably the only one who is at the peak of her power during the show
@@david7996 Vi used her gountlets in the show and was rated from them. Cait was also rated from the show as an excellent shot. As well as he rated Jayce only from the show with his hammer. Heimer is one of the only if not the only to be rated from the Lore. And I find that just unfair compared to the others. Otherwise he could just rate Victor from the Lore too and he would be much higher up.
@@Lusor_Caterpillar that is exactly what i mean though It is unfair because other champs will also become much stronger after the events of s1. But tbh, it is dumb to compare some of these characters anyway. They do completely different things.
Pre gauntlet Vi > Pre Sword Sevika, Sevika did not win her fight based on combat, she lost, played defeated and only got a shot in because she was leveraging information she processed. Jayce would also body Ekko. He has a hex-tech, he can shield any damage Ekko could do and if he ever lands a single hit he will literally disintegrate Ekko. Top tiers look more like: Shimmer Jinx (with Fishbones) > Jayce > Gauntlet Vi (once she learns how to use her force field) The logic for Jinx > Ekko was also pretty bad, "recreating a play fight". He was dodging her bullets, what would have changed if she was fighting "for real" the bullets speed up? Sword Sevika is hard to tier, during her only fight Vi's mental is kaboom and she's putting up a worse performance than their first battle. Sword Sevika gets giga-clapped the moment Vi starts being sentient again.
I'd put Vander almost above all of them. If he doesn't want to fight, it doesn't mean he cannot fight. Obviously higher than Ekko, Jinx, Vi and Sevihka
