How Powerful Are Mages?- World of Warcraft Lore 

Well, it's gross and disrespectful to loved ones of the raised one and so on

erikjb12 yet the death knights are permitted or tolerated at least if they do so.

Principle :P We don't want a society of grave diggers... And well, It's tragic that the Lich King did all that but hey, we reeeeeally need the deathknights as out allies, right? ;) I get ya.

Aleks Mtr I'm talking about the class campaign where we assemble the 4 horseman.

In the Arthas novel they describe how Necromancy affects the user, and, well, you wouldn't want that happening to yourself or your students. There's also the unethical practice of enslaving dead people, probably not something you want in society.

Thank you

Thats pretty accurate save for the Target part. A mage 100% has to focus on who he casts on as he "channels" thud mumbles an incantation and like with a gun needs to kerp wjat he conjurs and where he guides it in mind till the channeling finishes. During quick abilities like blink wich are btw Transmutation. So in the reality wrap school such as Portals, polymorph etc. A short ranged teleport you need to aim or you teleport into a wall. A mage could however skip time around himself to basicly quick run to a spot while time around still flows. But overall actual teleportation allows to reach high places pr even futher locations if you focus more.

@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm Yeah re-read my cmment, target depends on the spell school I would say. Then again spell castig is portrait differently in every novel :/ In the old hored one for instance to burn a fire they focus on the concept of fire and try to bring an inner heat out. Ie focus. Some spells do seem to require incantations, though per novels some don't. And yes! THANK YOU never sen anyone else mentioning the speeding up time around the mage bit before x'D People tend to forget that slow all is actually chronomancy, and so is timewarp.

@@DemonMaluMintus From what i gathered all the big spells requier some form of casting and since things like curse of tongues slows castime we can assume all spells kind of do if they need to be channeled or cast forca lenghy time before you can fire them out. The instant spells do not. Now you can say it is just purely gameplay application id still go with it. As no not rob warlocks of a vetsitile silence in rp combat situations.

@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm More complex DO require chanting simpler blunter ones do not from what I have read at least. But yes more complex spells do require chanting. Though from what we have seen simpler spells like barriers do not require such.

Hello, what's up whats down paranoidshadows?

+Kakio lmfao.

+Doronsmovies you call your fan paronoid shadows how rude?

Monkeyplays05 Fire Yes because we are paranoid shadows as we sneak with our undead rogues.

Lol the old days gankin ahh nastolgic

Not true, have you ever seen fire mage?

Thanks. Definitely will improve on the time it takes to make a video, ideally at least once a week.. The schedule got completely messed up so it took ages to get this video out.

And spellsteal.

Garick what?

Well everyone forgets spellsteal, which gives them an edge against almost every class.

they can't control elements, it's all arcane magic.

Mr.Vojtik ice block, flamestrikes, pyroblasts that is arcane???

Thanks, will cover them eventually.

Yep i cant wait for monks as well, chi can be quite OP :D and i also feel like Doron doesnt give monks the love they deserve.... he didnt even include them in the comparison againts mages, not even in a single video!

Doronsmovies Dying to see what you come up with

who gives af about monks

Would be fun to know just how much they can control time (and space to an extent). Chronomancy definitely has the potential to be the strongest form of magic.

@@SemperVII Actually so far only magic that could counter chronomancy was arcane in itself..Using wards to move inside a time stop zone etc..We know for a fact though that their simple slow spell actually slows the victim via chronomancy.

Lmao Broxigar a lone warrior orc took on burning legion and even managed to to wound sargeras where the mages at?

Mr.Vojtik Well,they're made to counter them...so yeah,I agree.

saronite armor has small gaps.... perfect for evocation of fire, and I agree with you that necromancy is not arcane, it's just that some mages used it, so it was called a school of magic, thou it doesn't have anything to do with arcane

The Stronger mages, "Arch-mages" can probably beat Death Knights 1vs1

Archmage can take on ordinary DK and most likely win, but if you want fair comparison you have to look at Archmage vs Deathlord/Scourge Lord (basically high tier DKs) such as Koltira, Thassarian or Rivendare (or even higher Mograine). And these guys are on entirely different level.

Mr.Vojtik to be fair jaina is an archmage, she faces the lich king himself in the halls of reflection. She couldnt kill him, but arthas wasnt able to kill her either. Archmages are often said in the lore to have powers rivaling those of demi-gods

Perks of being hero classes. Kinda OP.

Lucitaur yes monks but why did he forgot monks on the video he said lastly shadowpriest and warlock what happend to monk I feel sad man this is not fair

Garrett Myles Well they are not a class or spec, so it does not really mean much on the powerlevel scale of classes.

Marcos Ridley rogues :)

Garrett Myles Void/Shadow power revolves around corruption and mind control rather than sheer destructive capacity. And if Chronicle is any indication, it IS on par with the Light: assets1.ignimgs.com/2016/02/18/wowchroniclesample-page-004jpg-c74967.jpg

Yes, but current presence of the Void is not strong enough to beat Arcane nor Fel

Void and Light are equals, Pure void and Pure light can't manifest themselves in our world, we only see a shade of their power. The same way Light inspires, the void can be used to impart fear, despair and similar emotions. Arcane can be used for destruction, but it usually means Order. Fel is Arcane on steroids and a quicker way of doing things, where Arcane requires effort and hard work. With Fel you can just sacrifice animals and you can get enough to do quite a lot of things.

Their magic work in a different way, but the results are similar, although Fel magic is generally more destructive

play W3. or read the story down below. They were originally allied with the Alliance of Lordaeron (during 2nd orc invasion and Troll wars), this is the time when Dalaran was build. However then W3 happened and Arthas with his undead horde prrety much destroyed entire kingdom of Quel'thalas. In this time prince Kael'thas became leader and High elves started to call themselves Blood elves (in honor of all those who died there). But there was another big problem: elves were connected (and addicted) to magic and they were in search for more power. They were also trying to keep good relationship with the Alliance (they were really dependent on them). Unfortunately the commander that was put in charge of reclaiming Dalaran (Othmar Garithos) was terribly racist and he was pretty pissed he has to work with blood elfs. So he was giving Kael impossible tasks in hope to get rid of him. In response to that Kael accepted help of Naga and eventually allied with Illidan. However not all blood elfs went to Outland with him. Some have remained in Azeroth. Excited with their newfound ability to siphon mana from creatures of the Twisting Nether, the blood elves have managed to retake the land of Quel'Thalas. Silvermoon has been rebuilt and the resident blood elves there were trying to return to Outland, where they could reunite with Kael'thas and achieve the golden destiny he promised them. And with the opening of Dark portal during TBC they got their chance. Unfortunately, the decisions of Kael'thas to continually accept the aid of Naga and willingness to use fel magic have caused blood elves to be no longer accepted by the Alliance. So, the remaining blood elves on Azeroth looked to the Horde to help them reach Outland. Addiction to fel magics and the desperate search for a cure are things the Orcs are very familiar with, and many older orcs who've experienced similar addictions feel a kinship with the blood elves. Trolls were more careful about it, since they were in war with elfs all the time, but since Vol'jin is reasonable guy, they accepted them too.

To sum it up. After the orc wars the high elves weren't a big fan of the Alliance with the humans. They did ally fully with them when Quel'Thalas was destroyed but Garithos (commander of the remnants of Lordaeron) ruined that when he attempted to execute them. The blood elves were a shell of their former society and through Sylvanas who was also once a high elf they joined the Horde.

Doronsmovies Cool thanks!

Yeah they are pretty much entirely different classes.

Victor Voia priests powers actually stem from psychic energy

Thank you, great to hear. :)

Doronsmovies wow lastly shadow priest and warlock uhhmmm did you miss something ohh yeah the monk XD you offended my main class how dare you XD

Thank you man I appreciate it. Will still try to get at least 1 video a week. This one was really delayed due to the schedule getting messed up.

The CookieMeister think that's solely skill dependent, I mean if they can get a clean shot at your heart and catch you off guard, doesn't matter who you are, your dead. (unless maybe your a demon...)

I will do one video on the priests but will split it into sections as holy priests and shadow ones are drastically different.

Doronsmovies Great,thanks,shadow priest lore is very interesting cant wait to hear what you think about them! Inace nastavi sa radom,super ti je svaki video,poz iz CG !

Will get on it soon.

eeyy thank you, keep up the good vids.

The draenei are really more of a light race than a mage one. They still use arcane but it isn't the center of their society like it was for the original Eredar.

Hm... I would say that they can be as strong as they are smart irl, I had a priest in my guild, said he was supposed to be a disc priest, but would whine about "shadow" and why he has it. When I tried to help him he said I was too OP, but he never used Holyflame((witch is one of the best things ever)) he didn't use shadow made from light ((even thou he was a disc, not a holy)). But I won't be so sure that shadow priests are that powerful, they are a bit insane and they use the shadow from the old gods/void lords

*gasp* I think you are right!

That is true. I think I might roll a Disc Priest, early game they are damn near invincible.

Mages can control the world around them using the arcane and use that very energy to manipulate fire and ice by just physcally controlling them, this makes their control over fire and ice also much more reliable if you think about the control that shamans have due to the fact that a mage doesn't have a pact or a contract with a "superior" being, they use the raw power of the arcane to control the material world.

Arcane is like control of the natural laws of physics, and by controling that, Mages has control of reality itself. This allows them to basically create anything from thin air as they so desires, and create forces of nature aka. Fire and Frost, but also other elements.

Yes it does. Mage fire and Shaman fire are two very different things. Mage uses arcane energy, temporarily transforming it into fire (that's what is mage during during casting). Same go for frost. Shaman on the other hand is using raw elemental power which originates from their own sources (eternal flame, ...). And that has nothing to do with arcane.

ty man :)

also they come from the arcane school named Evocation, mages are amazing ! :D

It's from the Caverns of Time, The culling of Stratholme.

Arcane I'm pretty sure, as Arcane is the raw power of the world, while fire is just an element. Of course magic fire isn't the same as an element, but you can do pretty much everything with the right amount of power. Also lorewise, there's only "Arcane Mages" as their fire is made out of Arcane and not friction and what not..

Normally Fire. Ultimately Arcane. Arcane has the higher potential, if the Mage can take it on. This is shown mechanically with Arcane being 'trickier' to handle while Fire is more straightforward power.

Primarch Alpharius If you think like that:ice block,whait till bubble ends,Arcane barrage.rip

Oguzhan kaygısız Wait for the ice to end, stun, wack.

Spellsteal bubble

That doesn't work.

You're not the boss of me.

It is true in a way. The main thing about power is that in order to get a lot of it you also need to sacrifice a lot. This is why demon hunters and warlocks are very powerful. In the case of mages there is a limit to practice it safely. (there is also a limit with fel, void to the point of losing your mind) However there isn't too much magic lore and it isn't described in detail on how exactly it works and what exactly students do to learn it. If it was just learning and time spent than the draenei would be light years ahead of the humans. There is definitely a big factor of mortal limitation and the source of magic. For example Jaina could almost overwhelm Orgrimmar with the Focusing Iris which is a very powerful orb, but by herself she wouldn't be able to even think about anything close to it.

Doronsmovies rad, thanks for the info!

It's still a double edge ability, interrupt their concentration or catch them unprepared mages are vulnerable.

Branko Dimitrijevic azshara gets my vote 🎆

Branko Dimitrijevic Honestly I'd hate to agree but likewise Azshara is far powerful even without the well(Naga form) as when Illidan got his eyes from Sargeras, he was able to sense the aura of Azshara and the highborne, after which he stated that Azshara's power could rival Sargeras' own. Though that's what I remember from the lore videos I watch. Not sure if she got such a threatening aura after being given it by Sargeras or whether it was solely from the well.

Alejandro De Rienosa than why wasn't azshara helping sargeras and made his plan happen

Branko Dimitrijevic the story is like this. Azshara once upon a time ruled over the night elves and they were prosperous yata yata yata. During this reign she decided to work with the well through her highborne spellcasters during which cousilor xavius thought the wells best use was to purify the world in his own way. However tampering with the well, the world caught the attention of sargeras who craved it for himself appearing in front of Xavius making him believe Sargeras to be a God. when Xavius introduced them Sargeras seduced her with falsified vows as he bore no actual feelings towards her. Then his plan went into action, war of ancient happened, she along with her followers submerged in the depts and eventually sides with the old gods (there's actuslly no proof that they are working for the old gods but ye, that's the jist of it.)

I think a correction is in order in my first part, I think I'll need to research further how she became a Naga after a quick nap. As for her power, from what I gathered it was her own, and that is another reason why she saw a potential mate in Sargeras, as she finally believed she found some one who is worthy of her due to his power.

Eamenton No, you got it all wrong. Eredar are the first, Man'ari are corrupted Eredar and Draenei are the exiled Eredar.

You're inverting Eredar and Man'ari.

Matiaq The Heavy Main ty for corecting me, thought it was other way around :D

In these days we call man'ari eredar, and they themselves call eredar. It's not hard to get confused. I don't even remember if the word "man'ari" was ever used in game

Mr.Vojtik It has been used in TBC notably, you can find man'ari mostly around the forge camps in Outland.

Yeah they only opened planet portals, destroyed thousands of worlds, ... Were you ever in Shadowmoon valley (the Outlend one)? Did you noticed that big ass mountain in the middle? Gul'dan just walked there and raised it.

normal warlocks.....powerfull ones ,like Gul'Daniel are the kinda the maximum of warlocking

Keelarian Same goes for mages. Like Khadgar is most powerful mage in 10 000 years we know about. (Not counting Guardians)

Uuuh Gul'Dan?

Eik Naur Jensen Yeah how can we forget about in history Gul'dan the greatest mage

1. learn English 2. he said that blood elf are the best mages 3. There is not really that many powerful mages. Ok Jaine is good, Kael was really good, Anthonidas was quite powerful, but that is all. Medivh, Aegvin (+ other guardians) and Khadgar are something different.

Jaina created a really powerful transmutation spell, Mass teleport, in Dalaran you can find a book that sais that, also, and this is my favorite, the inventor of "Mirror image" died because even thou her illusions are perfect, they weren't good enough a diviner.... a shame

MasterSouth5 She also was given powers by Aegwynn. You know Medivhs mom, the ex-guardian of Azeroth.

Mr.Vojtik Oh I am a little bit confused about Aegwynn, Blizzard sais that Madan isn't cannon..... so... Is she still alive?

MasterSouth5 Well she almost died after giving her powers to Jaina, that is still canon. She then became her adviser. If Blizzard really wants her dead, they may say, that she just died in Theramore or even before - when she gave her powers to Jaina. With return of Medivh we may found out something more, but until then she is dead. And even if she is alive she is living her peaceful life in nice cozy cottage far from civilization and no one knows about her.

their power is boosted,but it is still unknown how powereful Azshara is now,but even in the War of the Ancients she was the most powerfull mage of her time,and with the transformation to naga from N'zoth,she is far more powerful,so maybe they're equal or Azshara is more so

But if Azshara equals the powers of archimonde and kil'jaedan while Guardians were more powerfull then those 2 (I meant Medivh not Khadgar)

+Fafan Where is it said that guardians were more powerful than archimonde and kil'jaeden? And does it say that all guardians were stronger than them? And even if that is true, I'm pretty sure the thing about archimonde and kil'jaeden being a match for Azshara was said before she was turned into a naga, which made her even more powerful. Also why the fuck aren't you talking about Medivh? You know, the most powerful and most recent guardian.

four powerful

...Never ...nerf locks for destroying several mountains