You got one thing wrong. Cosmic armor superman is not just machine. When monitors combined energies of positive matter universe and antimatter universe by using ultraman and superman, Superman dominated ultraman trough sheer will and was basically in charge of the machine. So thought tobot is basically insanely powerfull robot with Supermans mind in it.
"4th wall awareness" undersells how powerful the thought robot is. He is able to state to the readers that as long as people want to read stories about Superman, the writers will give him a way to win. That's not just being aware that you are a comic book character. That's knowing you are a comic book character so powerful that even the people writing your story are incapable of defeating you.
technically, the writers DID make that, and they made him say that, he didnt...WRRRIITE THAT ON HIS OWN DID HE?!?!? lol, its just the writers teasing with us. dont get too fooled by multiverses and overthink it. that power is , in our universe. here. now . impossible to achieve, because it means the superman wrote that by himself. the writers fooled ya didnt they XD?
@@shaherghrewati5266, yes, they wrote a specific character to have that power. However, I'd argue that the legacy of Superman on the cultural zeitgeist as described does make the concept of Superman more powerful than any given writer or even the editorial staff at DC. No, I'm not positing in a Steven King sort of way that Cosmic Armor Superman possesses people to make them write things. However, if AT&T decided that they were shutting down the comics portion of DC (a thing they said they might do if the 5th gen reboot isn't popular), Superman would still survive through fanfics and eventually, someone would buy the rights to make comics about him to undo whatever cataclysm they end their universe with.
Game Of LordS deadpool and joker have 4th wall awerness, cas beat mandrak who was considered an editor level threat, proving cas is an above editor level threat cas has power above fictional omnipotence therefore no entity ever created that was ever written in fictional has ni chance of beating him 4th wall awerness just means that you know you are a comic book character cas’s power is literally meant to beat any fictional character
As if, in all honesty he (cas) knows what’s going on and will happen, but he doesn’t see any of that as a threat at all, if he did one wave of his hand and everything goes away.
Mr. Doomguy- Yeah, to be honest I all most forgot he “DIED” but still, if the crisis is big enough, one wave of his hand and everything in that direction disappear
As Aris said, Cosmic Armor Superman defends the Multiverse from outside threats from the Omniverse, which is on the Overmonitor. If the threat is within the Multiverse, Cosmic Armor Superman won't be there.
@@KR91201 he got damaged beyond repair, and ceased to exist when the threat was not present anymore, but didn't "die", as he would come back automatically if there ever was another omniversal menace threatening the DC multiverse. The issue at the end states this clearly.
Mr Popo au fait, c'est bien la version la plus puissante de toutes les version de Superman? D'ailleurs selon moi, meme Galactus solos tout Dragon ball en incluant Zen'o.
Srinivasan Sivakumar Sentry doesn’t need plot armour. I would much rather read a good Sentry story because, as overpowered as he is, fanboys don’t cry into their milk if he loses a fight. It’s a part of his character development, not the be all and end all.
The best description of cosmic armor Superman that I have ever heard is this: The overvoid, or mind of the monitor which creates, constructs and maintains all realities in the multiverse is described like a child sleeping. If that child wakes, the multiverse and all realities disappear with it. Cosmic armor Superman is the safeguard to that. He is the teddy bear that keeps the child asleep.
If you haven't read the final crisis comicbook He is simply a plot device and on his tombstone he wrote to be continued so basically when a threat worthy of his time he'll simply start up and adapt to Win any present or future threat. That's it Any power any limit any omnipotence required. If you have a pencil you could draw him to do anything that furthers the story.
Actually Superman Prime one million was the answer to Rune King Thor. Cosmic Armor Superman was the boot used to SQUISH. Any and all Delusional FANBOY dreams of Hulk or any other marvel powerhouse defeating SUPERMAN. But even with all this power.. there is no doubt theres a DELUSIONAL FANBOY out there who will say Hulk can beat superman. If he gets angry enough.. REALLY?? REALLY?? LMAO!
@@waaargh2985 the pussy @tomi adewale @kaleltheg*ofkrpton. b tches f.ck yourself. superb tches as usual. .even base thor would annhilate your pussy saviour superman prime. .neighter did he broke the source wall nor studied under it.. .he still needed the help of a 5d superman to revive krypton and admited he cannot contain reality in a specific time and all that universe making feat fame fan shit as always. .while thor has beaten a version of hulk who once destroyed a universe, ga**yss superman s would cry lmao).. as for the mofo cas didn't he got fmcked by 10 billion suns atrack and madrak f.cked him neyond reoair. fake fan shit again. . and rune king thor killed 9 beyonders 3 beyonders killed living tribunal ( who is the living embodiment of marvel multiverse ) basically the multiverse, aka superman s sugar daddy (cuz he s 16d while superman aint even 6d).. and then old phoenix thor defeated god doom who possesed the power of starbrand ( the guy who killed 2 beyonders ) dr strange, iron fist, ghost rider as well as the beyonders ) so f.ck yourself butthurt..you superman fandom is the worst and and the most toxic fandom in existence go get a life a**hles..ultimate nullifier galactus ( lul galactus )would rape casuperman
This two issue tie in was easily my favourite part of the Final Crisis event, and one of my most favoured Superman stories. I’d love to see a Superman movie be this creative at some point. Take him out of Metropolis and away from the usual movie rogues for a while and have him explore really weird and imaginative stuff and deal with a threat seemingly so much more beyond himself but of course he finds a way to win in the “end” that gets us cheering.
Some VS video ideas: Vision VS Martian Manhunter Eternals VS Celestials The Defenders vs The Teen Titans Wolverine vs Lobo Specter vs The One Above All Darkseid vs Galactus
Microwave Burrito lobo vs wolverine is an unfair fight wolverine would get crushed but wolverine and lobo already fought in a crossover but in that lobo got paid to get beat up
Adam Brashear there’s no proof that he can. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-V2Ulur2Se0c.html one million is over exaggerated by fanboys. We don’t have a hole lot of information about him. So watch this and accept it.
Overmonitor and overvoid are two completely different things. The overvoid AKA monitor mind ecompasses all of creation and is the background of all stories and ideas within DC Comics ...The overmonitor is another name for Mar Novu, the monitor from COIE. I just find it strange that someone with such a strong comic channel, still has trouble with that distinction.
The fact that he's also capable of tangling with the omniverse speaks for itself, I mean, imagine going through different realities inside and outside that reality and being able to manipulate everything
The key word to comparing CAS and the presence is "Adapting". There's a limit to the speed of CAS intake of knowledge. That's why he "adapts" to future threats. The presence does not need to adapt as he has no threat nor experience future threats as they have ended before beginning.
How does a comic get to a point that they need to write into the comic a literal physical manifestation of a plot device. Cosmic Armor Superman is like a greatest nod of all time to the senior editor
RJ he wouldn’t because there’s no purpose for him to do so Even if apokolips and new genesis explode on top of each other that wouldn’t be a big enough issue to call him Even if heaven and hell go to war (which can never happen but let’s assume) that wouldn’t be a big enough problem Last time he only interfered because literally all of creation was getting engulfed by mandarak
gonzalez7935 not really and he actually changed the multiverse not just the main universe. The multiverse is less than a speck compared to something like new genesis
This just further explains how limitless Superman himself actually is. Superman can basically eventually become at least equal to the strongest being in the dc universe if he wanted to
Gam Kramawitana prolly solos everyone except the one above all Marvel doesn’t have a lot of REALLY powerful people like Lucifer or the angels like the spectre
his awareness level is so high he even noticed our reality presence by sensing our breathe from "a direction with no name and touch something immense beyond understanding" and knows he is just a fictional character and also he exist so far above reality he can see the entire multi layer, verse of dc as just a flat disc he can manipulate the plot to his advantage also capable to quantum manipulation etc. everything just as u said and the monitors are just metaphors for the writer and editors who control the dc multiverse. the monitor didn't try to destroy the multiverse he tried destroying the fiction itself meaning everything, he tanks a attack as 10bilion suns which is way more then sentry also he has omniscience intelligence he can adapt instantly to counter future threat and he only had 2 appearance his powers and ability's are limitless he makes super man 1 million like a gal of salt he is writer level all taht and The beyonder beats him
Could Cosmic Armour Superman beat the presence? If the plot required it. If he is the story's hero. His character is the embodiment of the idea that the hero always wins
but then you gotta worry about zeno, then its a different story, and plus its technically not superman, its a robot with superman and ultra mans conciousness, regular superman would get fondled by MUI goku
To explain the question if The Presence or TOAA is stronger than Mandrakk or CAS the answer is: The Presence or TOAA are only the God of DC or Marvel comics but outside DC or Marvel comics they are just characters easily made by Writers or Authors and can easily be edited to potato level. Monitors are like Writers and Editors, and Mandrakk is the BEST OF THEM aka Alan Moore. Mandrakk and CAS are outside DC or Marvel comics. Fictions/Comics or characters are just stories for them to edit or eat.
To say "they're outside of DC comics" is only true because it's what was said in A DC COMIC, it's highly contradictive and there is no CA Supes or Mandrakk without DC so that argument is irrelevant, The Presence and TOAA are literally the embodiment of the Creator's of said comics, The Presence = Jerry Siegel therefore no Siegel no Superman, no Superman no CA Supes.
@@ChiefinPack Actually the writer of Cosmic SP said that COSMIC sp is basically an editor of all stories in DC universe. So basically he's like the OBAA.
I can’t remember where I read this, but it sums up the Thought Robot in a nutshell: “His greatest ability is that he embodies the entire Superman mythos. He’s literally as powerful as he needs to be, because he’s Superman. And Superman always saves the day.”
Warrior Of Auir Superman prime erases goku in a thought. And his mind can process information and he can react in nanoseconds. He said he can measure the time in between nanoseconds and nanosecondsare one of the smallest units of time possible
Coscmic Armor Superman is not affected by Kryptonite, and is vastly bigger than the sum-total of the multiverse. A multiverse is an imperceptible spec within limbo, and limbo is just a tiny disc to the Thought Armor.
Letter from a big fan I'm a big Marvel Fan and here is my idea for your upcoming Fresh Start. I realise that you probably alredy have a plan [or I hope you do] but maybe something in here will be usefull for you. Reboot I think it might be the time for a first ever Marvel reboot instead of a relaunch. Not just changing the issue number to #1 and changing the status quo and sorting the existing timeline but a full new Fresh Start. Issue #0 That would mean starting with issue #0 where we get origin stories of major players [besides those who are to be shrouded in mistery]. Highschool Peter Parker gets bit. Stark in Iraq gets hit by his missile. Black Widow have her Red Room training before becoming cold war super spy. Carol Danvers meets Mar'vel. Victor's von Doom parents are killed and he starts his road to become the ruller of Latveria, master of both science and magic. Classic but modern. In the right era. Everything starts not exactly same as it was. It's modern retelling of those stories. Steve Rogers starts in WW II but Parker is a highscooler in the age of smartfons. SHIELD exists since after WW I but Reed Richards is a young genius in the [late] 1990's. Mutants start apearing in the 1940-50's but maybe Xavier and Magneto are alredy stories of the past while new X-Men exists today [with old cast like Cyclops, Wolverine, Jayne, Storm doing their things. Some as teachers, some as leaders of different teams, some separate from the X-Men Planned cosmology The mitos of gods is sorted out before starting the deal with Demiurge, Asgardians, Amon Ra etc. Magic is magic, tech is tech, overlap may exist but is known. Realms, dimmensions, space, other universes, anti-matter universe, microverse and other places having their own place. Phoenix, Galactus, Eternity, Living Tribunal all planned by you. Kri, Shi-Ar, Skrull and other space races in known status Quo. Old stories and new ones Some old stories can be retold in this new universe. Or a versions of those stories. Because your readers are both veterans of comics, lovers of the MCU and new readers. Some stories aplly to todays world or can be changed to do so perfectly. Some can be told as things that happend already in this universe. But there is ton of space for stories fitting to our day and age. Todays culture, tech and todays problems. And just new tropes, new villains, new dynamics. Consequences and status quo change. This is a hard thing in continuing media like comic books. But introduction of consequences to the world could be revolutionary. Currently [half jokingly] only people that stay dead are Ben Parker and Castles family. Other people are revived constantly. People are the same age for couple of decades. World still needs to stand quite still to be recognizable so the status quo have to change slowly but change. Some people need to die. Some people need to get old. Some people need to be replaced. Some people need to lose things. New policies have to stay, goverment have to react semi-permanently. Cities can be whiped out, land broken. Technology can be invented, reapropriated, used. Continuity and shared universe Hulk can't be in few places at once. When he is doing something in mexico he can't be with his team in Europe. T'chala while in space can't fight Doom in Latveria. Stories can be told out of order but the continuity and shared universe is something that people except now adays. Timeline. Stories can be told out of order but they have to be placed on a timeline. So we can have a retrospective stories of how Thor was doing things "back in the day" but besides retrospectives things should happen in order. --- Titles, chosen heroes and teams Who should be there from the start? People from the MCU are known and wanted. But there are also other pillars of what the MCU is. The comics could have team up, side stories and spin offs. Sometimes one-offs for less popular heroes while the big names and big teams get their by-weakly comics. Here are the titles/heroes/teams for the ongoing series that can have spinoffs/ oneshots [suggest near them]. Ordered by importance: Spider-Man One of the main man in Marvel. Funny, down to earth, allways fighting against the odds. Street level hero with life problems who later saves the world trying not to lose all other things. Side stories: Venom Iron Man Tony and RDJ are loved now. Genius inventor, a human tank with big brain. Ending wars, fighting giant monsters and solving problems with giant mechs. Side stories: War Machine Fantastic Four [with Doom stories] Adventure stories exploring the reach Marvel universe. Sci-fi tech, different dimensions, space travel, microverse and trying to solve Earth problems. Doom from the Doom's World is a hero who because of his ego and being blinded by different things looks like a villain. Magic, science, being a ruler, time travel, world saving, bouts with heroes - it can have it all. SHIELD [with Black Widow, Winter Soldier, Black Cannary, Quake, Hawkeye Coulson etc.] World safe keeping, spy missions, stoping wars, meeting supernatural threats with whatever humanity can achieve. Secret branches, official branches, trying to deal with all kind of threats. Missions around the globe where we can see the big and small names doing what they do best. Stories both old and new. From the war, from many team ups, about past crisies and new current events. Side stories: Cap, Winter Soldier, Black Widow, Quake when they go on a solo adventure. Thor [with stories from Earth, Asgard(realms) and Space] God, Hero, Man. Classic stories like in ancient myths. Warrior archetype with great stories from legends and superhero stories. God to be humbled, man to rise to glory, hero to make mistakes and triumph over enemies. Side stories: Loki's adventures, Hercules Avengers [first smaller than bigger] Avengers as global team of capable heroes. All those who want to do bigger things. Some of them work there all the time, some are summoned or apear just for the big events. - Founders: Iron Man, Hank Pym and Jannet Van Dyne, Banner, Thor, Cap. [Maybe more] - Core team: Iron Man, Cap, Thor, Banner [not Hulk] - later Falcon, Vision, Scarlet Witch. - Solo heroes who help: Hank Pym, Hulk, Black Widow, Hawkeye, Spidey, Wolverine - later Black Panther, Miss Marvel, Doctor Strange and others. Side stories: tons of people who might one day be avengers or are in the current mentioned roaster X-Men and the Mutants First X-Men team had their time and we see their stories in the past. Currently in the X-Mansion we have teachers from the old X-Men, new teachers and new X-Men team. A top of that we have X-Force a more serious and militaristic team, we have solo stories from known and unknown mutants doing their things. Side stories: Deadpool, Wolverine, Cable. Guardians of the Galaxy Space and sci-fi. Mitting with different alien races that are or will be threats to the Earth. Stories of unrelated space heroism and just some space sci-fi fun and action. A lot of ways to show the universe. Side stories: Captain Marvel/ Alpha Flight/ SWORD Side stories: Silver Surfer, Gladiator, Galactus, Thanos Marvel Knights Street level. Punisher, Jessica Jones, Daredevill, Moon Knight, Luke Cage, Daughters of the Dragon. Some punching thugs, dodging cops, killing drug lords, protecting the neighbourhood. With some mixing it with the bigger threats. --- I have high hopes for the Fresh Start. We will see what it will be.
Zeno: who do u think u are weirdo CAS: what did u just say to meh *wipes out everyone in dragon ball multiverse including zeno with only 2% of his power*
Presence isn't the writer he is the god of dc Primal Monitor / Over-Monitor (Which represents the paper) calls him a germ and the writer is the actual real life writers of dc
@@starflatinum683 Lot of problems. Perpetua created the rebooted multiverse after she disobeyed the presence. And mandrax didnt create the cosmic armor, it was Nil
@@00Grimreaper00 CAS IS A HYPERSTORY REAPRING AND CAN MANIPULATE THE PLOT OF THE STORY EVERY CHARACTERS LIKE TOAA AND THE OTHERS EXIST WITH IN STORY AND CAS MANIPULATES STORY SO IN CONCLUSION CAS RAPES
@❶Grim Reaper I dont think thats possible,Cosmic Armor Superman is at the same level as The Beyonders(which killed the living tribunial using extreme poweful energies),except without any further weaknesses.
Wait if cosmic Superman’s job is to defend the multiverse and omniverse where was he to fight anti-monitor during crisis on infinite earths and when dr Manhattan created the new 52
Airbreaker42 Yes but the monitors knew he would eventually be beaten by the mortals and nigh-immortal super heroes inside the multiverse, where as mandrakk was too big of a threat to be put down by super heroes. Only the more powerful outer-dwellers could face him (like lucifer, the word, the voice, the endless, thought robot etc) but it so happened to be the thought robot facing him, who's also an outer-dweller.
Greatest artist Who ever lived lmao CA Superman has plot manipulation which has the ability to nerf gag characters. Lmao ur an idiot. Plus CA Superman could’ve crushed the entire DC omniverse with his thumb.
Greatest artist Who ever lived makes no sense when TOAA nerfed squirrel girl when he used his pen which is weaker than plot manipulation -_- Overmoniter is everything overmoniter is the canvass in which writers create the fiction stories or anime in moniters order.moniter is outside of dc verse and moniter is outside of all fiction stories or anime (dc or marvel fiction or any anime). overmoniter see the entire dc verse as a dot and germ in the canvass and overmoniter created the ultimate thread mandrakk to eat all entire dc verse(in which presence the god of dc verse exist). mandrakk feats are to eat all stories fiction and anime. Mandrakk kills a moniter (who gives order to writers) like it was nothing.cosmic armor superman beats mandrakk and throw him in to the overmoniter and cosmic armor superman hears that mandrakk is still screaming.cosmic armor superman hold the dc verse(limbo) in the tip of his finger.cosmic armor superman has plot device and has plot manipulation he can’t loss to anyone. Cosmic Armor Superman always wins with no doubt Overmoniter>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everything Cosmic Armor Superman=Mandrakk>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Moniter Moniter>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>marvel Toaa and DC presence(writers) Even depowered moniter can kills toaa and presence with ease Toaa and Presence blinks all DB Franchises out of existence with ease
I think presence is equal to one above all, but there is a dc character that is more powerful than both of them" the writer", why marvel fan didn't agree on that.
@@superheroverse957 the writer is on par with toaa if that’s the case because toaa has resembled jack Kirby in the comics and has complete control over everything and observes comics
@@alexandrosbanakos8715 so pls think logically look, marvel consider Stan Lee as the one above all and supreme being of marvel multiverse and DC didn't consider presence as the writer but he is considered as supreme being of DC multiverse so they are equal ( TOAA= presence) but dc comics say that there is a being who created presence, a being that can create a supreme being, the name of that being is not revealed yet so it is named as "the writer". So marvel consider TOAA as writer and supreme being but dc writer is consider more powerful....
@@Mandrakk7 stfu cas aint omnipotent he'll be stomped hard, even the chousins in kami stomp hard, they are omniversal beings.... them too are laughing now.
@@siuken1757 yea omniverasal beings like the presence got beat by Rax Ogama.. Rax ogama beat The Spectre the radiant and the presence at the same time🙂🙂and guess who Rax ogama is... He is the weaker version of Mandraak... Imagine how powerful the original Mandraak was🤣🤣🤣and he got beat by CAS. Don't cry kid go read comics lmao
@@starflatinum683 Be wasnt. The god that that Mandrac said he defeated was the NIL Monitor. The presence was not Even in the multiverse at the time. And CAS is pure tough but the source is beyond tough. So the presence is definetly stronger
@@ProfessorPrel "mandrakk defeated ""the NIL monitor""" There are infinite nil monitors, plus, i can give you proof that mandrakk, not even at his peak is beyond all monitors(except overmonitor, the evidence is cloudy on that).
@@starflatinum683 NIL was the original monitor, the one that got split into 2. He is not beyond all the monitor, just the anti and normal monitor. I should have made it more clear, Im sorry
Thought Robot Superman is all ready standing at the start, finish and every point in-between the designated race distance, both before, during and after the race started.
Saitama haha not really man, not all versions, Goku is way beyond Skyfather and multiversal level by this point, being a galaxy buster by Buu Saga and his normal state is much stronger than his ssj3 in that saga, plus absorbing God ki to his normal state. Now he’s easily beyond the power of blue Vegito in his own. He was about to destroy a Macroverse with punch waves and that was before all the zenkais new transformations and training🤷🏻♂️.
Now there are several versions of Superman. Now Todd McFarlane made several versions of Superman as DC MULTIVERSE action figures. But since he made several versions of him as action figures, he really needs to make a version of Cosmic Armor Superman as a DC MULTIVERSE 7" action figure. Now personally to me, I think that'll be pretty cool.
