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#StarWars #Canon #MaceWindu
Mace Windu, a Force-sensitive human male, was a revered Jedi Master and member of the Jedi High Council during the last years of the Galactic Republic. During his time in the Jedi Order, he once served as elected leader of the Jedi and, during the Clone Wars, as a Jedi General in the Grand Army of the Republic. He was the greatest champion of the Jedi Order and promoted its ancient traditions amidst the growing influence of the dark side of the Force in the corrupt, declining days of the Republic.
When the Separatist Crisis spawned the birth of the Confederacy of Independent Systems and sparked the Clone Wars, Windu and the Jedi rallied to the defense of the Republic and became the leaders of the Grand Army of the Republic. Throughout the war, Windu served the Jedi and the Republic in various capacities-on the battlefield in command of the clone army, on Coruscant as an overseer of the war effort and an advisor to Supreme Chancellor Sheev Palpatine, and even as a diplomat to contested worlds, despite his disdain of politics. His exploits on the frontline served as a reminder of his reputation as a renowned Jedi warrior.
As the war drew to a close, Windu became increasingly suspicious of the chancellor's motives, as Palpatine had amassed near-dictatorial control over the Galactic Senate, and sensed the rising power of the dark side in the galaxy. His suspicions were confirmed when Anakin Skywalker, a Jedi Knight and the Chosen One of ancient prophecy, discovered that Palpatine was Darth Sidious, the Dark Lord of the Sith who manipulated the Republic and the Separatist Alliance into war. Windu, along with Jedi Masters Kit Fisto, Agen Kolar, and Saesee Tiin, confronted Palpatine with the intention of arresting him. Instead, the Dark Lord attacked them, striking them down one by one until only Windu was left. Windu bested Palpatine in the confrontation and-deciding the chancellor was too dangerous to be left alive due to his influence over the government-prepared to strike him down, but the intervention of Anakin Skywalker, who saved the chancellor's life, led to Windu's death. As a result, Skywalker fell to the temptation of the dark side and was renamed Darth Vader.
Windu's actions led Palpatine to brand the Jedi as traitors to the Republic. The chancellor executed Order 66 and clone troopers across the galaxy turned against and killed their Jedi leaders, marking the fall of the Jedi Order. Palpatine transformed the Republic into the Galactic Empire and the Emperor's new regime promoted anti-Jedi sentiment across the galaxy. Through propaganda, the Empire portrayed Windu as the leader of a criminal gang of Jedi who caused the outbreak of the Clone Wars. In spite of the propaganda, some of Windu's actions were remembered with fondness; General Cham Syndulla, who served alongside Windu during the Battle of Ryloth, remembered Windu with great respect and told the tale of how Windu helped him liberate Ryloth during the war

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@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 3 года назад
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@thunderguy6164
@thunderguy6164 3 года назад
Hey key issues can you powerscale Thor (MCU) you've done many MCU powerscale videos but never have actually made a video dedicated to powerscale him plss make it happen.
@chrisbennett6236
@chrisbennett6236 2 года назад
I actually agree and I think its bad ass that you quote sources. Oh and the Mace Windu novel Shatterpoint, is canon and it does a fantastic job if explaining what exactly it is. Great read if you get the chance.
@comicsevolved1464
@comicsevolved1464 3 года назад
Powerful enough to get a lightsaber made in a color of his choice.
@dumpster_mcgee_96
@dumpster_mcgee_96 3 года назад
Comics Evolved That’s Samuel L. Jackson’s power, not Mace Windu’s.
@Antispectre
@Antispectre 3 года назад
BMF power is universal and absolute
@danielhill9912
@danielhill9912 3 года назад
I thought it was because he was balanced in the force
@eggsalad3316
@eggsalad3316 3 года назад
@@angryboi4 lmao
@chinortega3
@chinortega3 3 года назад
@@Antispectre yes lmfaoooo
@marvellkrypton
@marvellkrypton 3 года назад
Key Issues: "Mace Windu over everything." ME: "Long have I waited to hear you say it."
@StartTheJoust
@StartTheJoust 3 года назад
@5:24 , Palpatine realises Windu has somewhat unique style and mastery of skills that he wasn’t familiar with. Knowing Palps he had studied Jedi and their skills throughout, but this time even the mighty Sidious was surprised that someone was able to channel his darker side the way Mace was. Must’ve been a humbling experience.
@chrisbennett6236
@chrisbennett6236 2 года назад
He would actually say in his personal logs that Luke finds, that he didn't see Windu as a potential threat and was momentarily panicked when he realized he could not defeat Windu.
@EM-tx3ly
@EM-tx3ly 2 года назад
Of course But Sith operate thru treachery Anakin betrayed Mace and the Sith did the rest Hence master and apprentice dynamics
@WestAirAviation
@WestAirAviation 6 месяцев назад
@@chrisbennett6236 What media is that from? A novel? A comic? I'd like to find it.
@seanhewitt603
@seanhewitt603 Месяц назад
Lol, hardly, that's like a heavy weight being intimidated by a welter weight... Ain't gonna happen.
@itsrobferrari
@itsrobferrari 3 года назад
They need to give him his own Disney+ show with Samuel L. Jackson mannnn that would awesome
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 3 года назад
Agree!
@jairusjackson7799
@jairusjackson7799 3 года назад
They are making a series for him, but these idiots are waiting until 2024 to make it. Come On! Samuel L Jackson isn't getting any younger they should be making it now!
@ayrtonpietrobelli6972
@ayrtonpietrobelli6972 2 года назад
@@jairusjackson7799 alternatively i wouldnt mind seeing Mahershala Ali in the role
@TheBlond49
@TheBlond49 3 года назад
He was so OP in Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars
@MementoMoriIlluminatusDrStrang
@MementoMoriIlluminatusDrStrang 3 года назад
Every force user was OP in Leyends
@flyinglions2223
@flyinglions2223 3 года назад
@@MementoMoriIlluminatusDrStrang Not necessarily, look at how they nerfed Vader in legends.
@darthsand1085
@darthsand1085 3 года назад
@@MementoMoriIlluminatusDrStrang Darth Maul?
@fraydizs7302
@fraydizs7302 2 года назад
Having Windu as a master probably could have allowed Anakin to be able to channel his anger without losing himself to it. Plus them having that closer bond probably would have made it harder for Anakin to decide to cut off his arm when he was about to kill Palpatine. A shame we'll never know.
@seanhewitt603
@seanhewitt603 Месяц назад
Nope, that was not in Lucas' version, just your delusional interpretation, if Lucas had wanted it that way, it'd be written that way... But it wasn't, sooooo, yuh, there's that.
@Nathan24634
@Nathan24634 Месяц назад
​@@seanhewitt603shut your mouth he is a fan of the series and just put out a possibility of what could have been but wasn't people like you make people not like certain shoes or series
@kronos1794
@kronos1794 3 года назад
A shockingly underrated character.
@84Ronnell
@84Ronnell 3 года назад
Someone made that crap up about Sidious holding back when George Lucas said he beat him heads up. I wish people would stop making up stuff, he beat him flat out
@BayScrilla510
@BayScrilla510 3 года назад
Exactly they are haters
@therealhound3977
@therealhound3977 3 года назад
Well sidious is not the best as a saber user his speciality is the use of dark side of the force to defeat opponents but then again windu force ability is able to cancel sith lords energy
@whoaahh6548
@whoaahh6548 3 года назад
@@therealhound3977 obviously he isn't the best duelist of all time but he did master all 7 forms of saber combat, so he's no joke
@mmaboxingclips2407
@mmaboxingclips2407 3 года назад
It’s in the novel.. Lucas clearly had a hand in that and was canon at the time. Dumb dumb dumb lucas
@anthonynielsen6265
@anthonynielsen6265 3 года назад
True as hell
@scaldon2
@scaldon2 3 года назад
He legitimately defeated Sidious. When he fought sidious it was his first time implementing the superconducting loop of vaapad. And for his first time he defeated Sidious.
@dx_n3774
@dx_n3774 3 года назад
To be fair we all his force abilities able to nelegate a sith power his a badass sith slayer but against yoda who uses the light side his fucked
@arronfrazier7873
@arronfrazier7873 3 года назад
@@dx_n3774 Don't forget Yoda was 800 years older! Mace never really reached his fully potential. Anakin and Askoka at young ages, they were forged in the Clone wars which made them more powerful. Imagine a young Windu going through the samething! Mace and Anakin were alike more than any of the other Jedi. They both loved combat which was looked down by the Jedi code! They were natural warriors!
@dx_n3774
@dx_n3774 3 года назад
@@arronfrazier7873 why did you have to tell me this I clearly know and mace windu faced other trouble that could count maybe I dont know he face a dark jedi want that many in that time since of peace time only the jedi who saw the sith return and the jedi downfall
@tootriv211
@tootriv211 3 года назад
Right! That says it all.
@tootriv211
@tootriv211 3 года назад
@@dx_n3774 Right he defeated his family member on his home planet that used the pure force and was said to be stronger than himself and Sidious. The unfiltered force and the dangerous conditions drove him crazy.
@KingofFlorida
@KingofFlorida 3 года назад
He beat sidious fair and square, he’s literally stronger than the “most powerful sith of all time”
@saekisadako2118
@saekisadako2118 2 года назад
vaapad is an anti sith tech so i'm not surprised
@greyngreyer5
@greyngreyer5 Год назад
Maul beat him. Just saying
@kyrptonite1825
@kyrptonite1825 Год назад
He used Vaapad, which deflects dark side energy onto another
@maskassmario321
@maskassmario321 Год назад
Most overrated Sith of all time*
@XTHREAT
@XTHREAT Год назад
Mannn he beat him fair no ifs ands or buts. Peroid
@getpaidblackman9859
@getpaidblackman9859 3 года назад
Mace was master crafted being. Fate just had to interfere in his life.
@eaglesalldayable
@eaglesalldayable 3 года назад
Plot
@blakeswanson1322
@blakeswanson1322 3 года назад
@@eaglesalldayable *the force
@isaacheard4202
@isaacheard4202 Год назад
Mace windu walks the path of good right beside the dark the fact that he was turned by the lightning and he stopped it with his lightsaber is one of the greatest feat I know of in star wars
@freddyz3359
@freddyz3359 3 года назад
Mastering the light and being in control of the dark... this is how the all the jedi should have been.
@qsseay
@qsseay Год назад
Mace should have the Grandmaster of the Order rather than Yoda. Under his leadership, the Order may have been able recognize and more effectively combat Siddious’s diabolical schem.
@trehubb6144
@trehubb6144 Год назад
Downplay of Mace win against Sidious is wild. Sith Lords have always been experts in either Sorcery/Alchemy or Dueling. Sidious was great in Dueling but probably due to him being under Plaguies his specialty was more Sorcery based. Mace being a better duelist shouldn't surprise anyone. Along with his fighting style of shatter point and Vaapad.
@vasylkasra
@vasylkasra 3 года назад
Overall, you did a pretty good job. Mace is one of my favorite characters in the universe, and he doesn't really get much love.
@mrop1492
@mrop1492 3 года назад
This ain't the part 2 video but dedicating a whole video to the most powerful Jedi of his time(in Canon). Respect.
@kekero540
@kekero540 Год назад
I always thought Vapaad fed off the dark side energies of the person you were fighting against which is why it was so deadly against Sidious.
@Eclipse_Graphics
@Eclipse_Graphics 3 года назад
You have to read the book for the third movie. It explains why Mace using Shatter Point is the best Jedi to face darkside users
@james_eee
@james_eee 3 года назад
Well I'd say he could be anakin in a duel
@carterluczywo2712
@carterluczywo2712 3 года назад
Indeed
@vasylkasra
@vasylkasra 3 года назад
Yes.
@dimond360_
@dimond360_ 3 года назад
I’d say so Vappad would work to his advantage if Anakin goes lunatic rage mode
@bbp2930
@bbp2930 3 года назад
@@dimond360_ yea
@afroman5160
@afroman5160 3 года назад
With Vaapad Anakin would have r lost. Anakin would have relied on darkness too fight him in episode 3.
@tonywright9906
@tonywright9906 3 года назад
Mace Windu over everything. Excellent job!!! Finally the truth has come out about Sidious throwing the fight and all that made up none sense. I have been studying Juyo and Vaapad for a long time. Reading every source and Mace Windu as well. Job well down!!!
@chrisbennett6236
@chrisbennett6236 2 года назад
One point that is overlooked is that the Jedi Order required a Jedi to outright master forms 1-6 and all of the stance and kata variants if they wished to learn Juyo. Then they needed unanimous permission from the Council, then finally permission of the Grandmaster. This is why so few Jedi learn the form and why Anakin was denied multiple times.
@monghanclan2330
@monghanclan2330 Год назад
No. Mace Windu lost to Maul in the son of Dathomir comics, not only Mace Windu but Ayyla Secura aswell. They both lost to Maul in a 2v1 Palpatine far outscales Maul. So he far outscales Windu. Deal with it.
@tonywright9906
@tonywright9906 Год назад
@@monghanclan2330 That wasn’t a real duel. Nor a real fight. Windu and Maul in lightsaber duel, Windu is winning. Windu has a clear understanding of what Form Vll is and how to use it. That little skirmish wasn’t a w. More like a desperate attempt to escape than fight.
@tonywright9906
@tonywright9906 Год назад
@@monghanclan2330 You deal with the smoke and mirrors learn the difference between a real fight and desperate need to flee. Palpatine out scales nothing. And was beaten by Windu. If so powerful why have Anakin save his wrinkled bacon, hmm?! Deal with that.
@monghanclan2330
@monghanclan2330 Год назад
⁠​⁠@@tonywright9906es, it was a 2v1, provide ONE fucking reason why Mace would be more powerful ALONE than having another well skilled user with a lightsaber next to him If you can’t beat one guy when there’s 2 of you. It’s a loss, and the single person gets the W Read the comic again you jack off, it was a 2v1 which maul claimed it was a “fair fight” putting Mace Windu and Ayyla Secura TOGETHER on Mauls level Dooku is one of the greatest swordsman of his time and has beaten Yoda in a CANON comic called the mission to Tatooine, this puts Dooku slightly above Palpatine in Duelling But we all know that Windu is FAR below Dooku in duelling 💀 Provide some actual fact or a reason other than your biased misinterpretated views, then learn to talk like an adult. Deal. With. That. Edit: if Mace was more powerful alone, why take 3 other fucking Jedi masters to take down the SITH LORD they’d been looking for?
@Protocol36
@Protocol36 3 года назад
Great work! I would love to see more of "How Powerful is...." Videos for Star Wars characters in the future!
@mrpj1390
@mrpj1390 3 года назад
Actually he does use Shatterpoint once in the Clone Wars series. They show it when he uses it to break some glass to free a clonetrooper. That was Shatterpoint that he was using when he did that. Its shows weakpoints in things or even living beings.
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 3 года назад
TCW is canon to legends, and in legends he is using shatter point there. In the current canon, that scene is not shatter point
@mactavish542
@mactavish542 2 года назад
@@KeyIssues it’s clearly shatterpoint.
@chrism9549
@chrism9549 3 года назад
Beautifully summed up.. Thank you so, soooooooo much. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 3 года назад
Thank you !
@SMBH-M87
@SMBH-M87 Год назад
It'd be dope to see Mace Windu brought back to the screen with a different angle. Given that Mace is a master of Vaapad, which breaches the Dark Side of the Living Force, he can potentially return postured as an antihero or antivillain.
@dafullclip
@dafullclip 3 года назад
Great video and info. Thanks.
@onyxraze
@onyxraze Год назад
This channel is hella underrated
@ghostdog1758
@ghostdog1758 11 месяцев назад
Thank you so much. 😁 Mace Windu is one of my favorite star wars characters.
@jendersonmohammed443
@jendersonmohammed443 3 года назад
One of the GOAT! Please do Palpatine soon!
@Lord2wiceAsReal
@Lord2wiceAsReal 3 года назад
I wonder if some people know that Tupac auditioned for Mace Windu another cool fact about this character
@natsusatsujinki8342
@natsusatsujinki8342 Год назад
No but I'm kinda glad he didn't. Can't really see anyone else as the character. Sorta like Ironman or Wolverine
@SharifBey-mr3bc
@SharifBey-mr3bc 6 месяцев назад
I thank you for your great work in researching Mace Windu. The creator of Star Wars himself said that Mace beat Sidious fair and square but there are still those that reject the word of the creator, lol. Once again, great job, I thank you.
@JohnakaJohnny
@JohnakaJohnny 3 года назад
You are tearing me apart Windu!
@gerardocovarrubias1127
@gerardocovarrubias1127 3 года назад
can you make how powerful was anakin skywalker before he turned to the dark side was he more powerful than count dooku,maul,grievous and obi wan kenobi because the reason kenobi took high ground ts because he was getting tired
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 3 года назад
Yes, eventually!
@gerardocovarrubias1127
@gerardocovarrubias1127 3 года назад
@@KeyIssues also do you think star wars characters vs dceu and mcu characters that could be good
@cherechesalexdaniel811
@cherechesalexdaniel811 3 года назад
Dooku was evidentally holding back. Did you notice that in their fight dooku didn’t use force lightning? Because if you watch the 3d clone wars you would know that at the slightest intervention of electricity Anakin is out of the fight even a bounty hunter with no connection to the force beat anakin with normal electricity. And he was equal to Obi wan. In their fight on mustafar they force push each other and the power was equal sending tham both flying.
@gerardocovarrubias1127
@gerardocovarrubias1127 3 года назад
@@cherechesalexdaniel811 what luck it was stated that the three most powerful Jedi were Yoda Mace Windu Count Dooku I mean it Dooku never turn to the dark side and Qui Gon never died in the four most powerful Jedi would be well you know the answer
@cherechesalexdaniel811
@cherechesalexdaniel811 3 года назад
@@gerardocovarrubias1127 Also even Savage can take on both Anakin and Obi Wan at once. And Maul can beat his little brother in secunds. I think Ahsoka saying that anakin would beat Maul was just her highbolling her teacher.
@kennethmcalpine7544
@kennethmcalpine7544 2 года назад
Great video.
@hunneylipps
@hunneylipps 3 года назад
Love the video 😄 keep up the good work ☺️.
@thefastmagician
@thefastmagician 3 года назад
Let’s keep these coming.
@henry4393
@henry4393 3 года назад
Although he was a douche, Mace Windu was a badass during battle.
@danielcooke3732
@danielcooke3732 2 года назад
Hey Samuel L Jackson is awesome
@abrikiodp2597
@abrikiodp2597 2 года назад
L
@GenXChristian
@GenXChristian 9 месяцев назад
Awesome video, Do a video on A shared Hett/ Darth Krayt.
@james_eee
@james_eee 3 года назад
Would you be able to go more in depth on kit fisto as he was one of the strongest jedi during the clone wars and was considered a dangerous combatant by obi wan
@FriendlyBatDoom
@FriendlyBatDoom 3 года назад
By the time he died which was in his 50's Mace Windu mastered all 7 forms of lightsaber combat. He also had shatterpoint. And HE BEAT SIDIOUS FAIR AND SQUARE he was the better duelist.
@macattackk
@macattackk 3 года назад
In canon yes. In legends there is a lot more context to that fight, and it’s left somewhat ambiguous
@cherechesalexdaniel811
@cherechesalexdaniel811 3 года назад
In canon he dasn’t have shatterpoint or at least wasn’t confirmed to have it but the rest i agree with
@wb7585
@wb7585 3 года назад
@@cherechesalexdaniel811 clone wars where he uses the force to shatter the tanks window to save the clones trapped in.
@vasylkasra
@vasylkasra 3 года назад
In EU, he's in the general ball park of RotS Yoda, RotS Sidious, and post-Invisible Hand Anakin/pre suit Vader. Other sources also place him having similar power levels to Yoda and Sidious at that time. And yes, Windu did beat Sidious fair and square, if you examine every statement and feat. Parts of the novel were not considered greater canon than the movie, which included the novel's depiction of the Mace/Sidious duel. The Star Wars Databank, the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia, the Galactic Files trading card games, etc, which are all considered C-canon (G-canon in the databank's case as far as the movie info) all stated that Windu bested Sidious legitimately and no official source claims that Sidious threw the fight or was holding back. The New Essential Chronology even states that Windu fought a Palpatine who "unleashed his full fury" against him and the B-Team.
@FriendlyBatDoom
@FriendlyBatDoom 3 года назад
@@vasylkasra thank you KEEP PREACHIN.
@TC-xh5wp
@TC-xh5wp 2 года назад
That was 👍, thanks!
@MementoMoriIlluminatusDrStrang
@MementoMoriIlluminatusDrStrang 3 года назад
The only jedi master and council member who can grand the "n" word pass
@donovanprice2636
@donovanprice2636 3 года назад
Why are white people so obsessed with the n word?
@MementoMoriIlluminatusDrStrang
@MementoMoriIlluminatusDrStrang 3 года назад
@@donovanprice2636 Funny cause am latino jajajaj
@gerardocovarrubias1127
@gerardocovarrubias1127 3 года назад
and also key issue do you think you can make how powerful was luke skywalker,ben solo/kylo ren and rey skywalker and every star wars character and even versus series
@theoriginalonion7545
@theoriginalonion7545 3 года назад
Agreed. Off subject question, the owl that follows Ahsoka is that the daughter or the daughter's pet?
@gambitx5571
@gambitx5571 3 года назад
love this style of video, but the reasons behind you not posting the sw part 2 you said here are different from what you said on discord.
@scaldon2
@scaldon2 3 года назад
This theory that sidious lost on purpose is stupid.
@mactavish542
@mactavish542 2 года назад
He uses shatterpoint to break the window to get a clone out of a walker in clone wars.
@brandonkirk6498
@brandonkirk6498 3 года назад
Great video next time could you please do Darth Vader
@samleggett9844
@samleggett9844 3 года назад
You should do a video on Tulak Horde
@ryanabadam8557
@ryanabadam8557 3 года назад
Make a how powerful was Yoda video... please!!!
@highraven8891
@highraven8891 3 года назад
Oh yes lets do that.
@dx_n3774
@dx_n3774 3 года назад
Is that even necessary
@uknownuser23
@uknownuser23 3 года назад
11:40 he literally does the shatter point ability in the Ryloth episode on the glass of the AT TE
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 3 года назад
It's not referenced as an ability he has in canon. I know in legends (as Clone Wars is part of Legends) this is a reference to shatterpoint, but no where in canon is shatterpoint mentioned for Windu. Ever. Period.
@sleazymeezy
@sleazymeezy 3 года назад
@@KeyIssues gets proved wrong, gets defensive and nitty. What a horrible content creator.
@auglybluething1995
@auglybluething1995 3 года назад
@@sleazymeezy how is that getting defensive
@mactavish542
@mactavish542 2 года назад
@Key Issues who cares if it’s canon or legends, it’s still part of the Star Wars universe.
@Gooberexploring
@Gooberexploring Год назад
@@mactavish542 that’s a dangerous thing to say so what now ray can force heal but yoda cant?
@AlternicityBlogspot
@AlternicityBlogspot Год назад
Vaapad could be the crux of a whole new main character
@matthewmann8969
@matthewmann8969 7 месяцев назад
Pretty powerful in Legends he was considered the person with the fourth higest potential in the order only behind Anakin, Yoda, And Dooku yeah.
@kinglionheart450
@kinglionheart450 3 года назад
No offense since this is all Canon I don't think nobody nobody is stronger than Grand Master Yoda as he took Darth sidious's full force lightning and caught it with the force with his hands okay Mace Windu how to use a lightsaber that is an energy power beam a plasma that is able to redirected with the force but Yoda did it with his hands so Mace Windu is nowhere near as powerful then Yoda maybe with a blade yes but when it comes for the force Yoda will literally overshadow Mace Windu as Yoda was the one that taught him everything he knows knows all of Mace Windu secrets and let alone 800 years of experience
@hypnotical9892
@hypnotical9892 4 месяца назад
6:06 George Lucas said Mace Windu won the fight, that’s enough for me
@demetriushoward2304
@demetriushoward2304 3 года назад
Lucas. Said Mace won that fight.. Nuff said
@kenvaellecam8328
@kenvaellecam8328 3 года назад
I wonder how this analysis fits with the Son of Dathomir comics. Sidious claims that Talzin's saber skills were not on Dooku's level, yet she was able to fight more or less evenly with Mace in TCW. Maul was also able to fight against both Mace and Aayla in what he claimed was 'a fair fight'. So perhaps we could say that at a base level Mace is somewhat below Dooku's level however if he decides to use Vaapad it boosts him up to Sidious level?
@toonbartholome479
@toonbartholome479 3 года назад
Neither his fight with Talzin or his fight with Maul was conclusive so it neither really contradicts his performance against Sidious.
@kenvaellecam8328
@kenvaellecam8328 3 года назад
@@toonbartholome479 To some extent you are right. However if Windu was really that good he would have performed better in those two fights regardless of whether the fight concluded or not. Windu hasn't consistently performed at Sidious level enough for a clear verdict to be made regarding his combat rating.
@toonbartholome479
@toonbartholome479 3 года назад
@@kenvaellecam8328 In what sense could he do 'better' ?
@kenvaellecam8328
@kenvaellecam8328 3 года назад
@@toonbartholome479 Better in the sense that he would have the clear advantage in the fight. Against Talzin he appeared to be on the defensive somewhat despite the fact her skills are inferior to Dooku's. His showing against her is not consistent with his fight against Sidious. Maul was able to handle himself well despite being in a 2v1 with Mace. Once again this is inconsistent with Mace' showing of defeating Sidious. That said i'll admit the comic fight is too short to be conclusive.
@georgbergsten6050
@georgbergsten6050 3 года назад
@@kenvaellecam8328 In regards to lightsaber skills sure but if his force power was even on the same level as sidious he should've been able to ragdoll Maul
@scottevans591
@scottevans591 2 года назад
It's not a argument I've looked over everything I can and it's simple mace beat the most powerful sith to ever exist something Yoda luke and the chosen one couldn't
@alexkeatley3790
@alexkeatley3790 3 года назад
2:43 Mace Windu definitely got his foot slid off here (use x0.25 speed)
@nlafave2001
@nlafave2001 Год назад
I swear Mace used Shatterpoint in the clone wars show… did he not??
@highraven8891
@highraven8891 3 года назад
JW what if mace came back? C'mon he only got pushed out by some lightning, maybe fell as did anakin and obi. HE COULD BE ALIVE!
@ramarblood7697
@ramarblood7697 3 года назад
He is alive and its said that their will be a show about him coming out in 2024.
@FrancisL4D
@FrancisL4D Год назад
Mace Windu is so fkn cool
@JimmyTurner
@JimmyTurner 3 года назад
I mean he can see shatter points. Which I think was kind of a weird power to base an entire book around.
@log7454
@log7454 3 года назад
Good luck with all the Jedi and Sith!
@raybellows9415
@raybellows9415 23 дня назад
He has to have his own show or movie or both asap imo
@Callsign_Reaper4
@Callsign_Reaper4 5 месяцев назад
I do believe Mace won his duel against Sidious, but there was one thing that allowed him to, that being Sidious could have killed him first and avoided the issue. Then there's also the fact that Yoda disarmed Sidious off screen, which is why it switches to Sidious using force abilities to keep Yoda at bay. Then there was the fact tbat, the only reason Yoda lost the fight was simply because it threw him further due to his smaller size. Had he not been thrown so far down, he probably would've continued the fight, but he wasn't able to return and knew it was better to retreat to teach future jedi
@jordanglasper1064
@jordanglasper1064 Год назад
I could be wrong, but he’s not make when does force technique shatter point officially a force technique he used of revenge of the Sith normalization. The unstoppable Jedi Master Mace Windu.
@arturtourinho6449
@arturtourinho6449 3 года назад
Please make another one
@fistoflegend1564
@fistoflegend1564 3 года назад
Jedi Master Mace Windu respect💜‼
@jayrev1254
@jayrev1254 3 года назад
Shatterpoint is referenced in the novelization of Revenge of the Sith. Wouldn’t that be canon?
@mactavish542
@mactavish542 2 года назад
He used shatterpoint to break a window in clone wars series
@kneerelievechronicle5739
@kneerelievechronicle5739 3 года назад
Thanks for just being real and I agree with you 💯%. sir!!!👍
@guesswho8556
@guesswho8556 Год назад
vaapad is a part of windu's lightsaber style. I don't know where you got the yoda > windu statement is not taking it into account.
@ItzEntoX
@ItzEntoX 5 месяцев назад
Mace and yoda are basically equals by rots , with vaapad however mace eclipses him .
@davemarchitto6485
@davemarchitto6485 Год назад
Much has been said about The light and the dark side. The day and the night. Windu is the Jedi of the dawn and the dusk. A harmonious union of opposing forces. An eclipse at noon.
@BozheTsaryaKhrani
@BozheTsaryaKhrani 3 года назад
Do Embo
@mmora2865
@mmora2865 3 года назад
What is shatter point?
@hokagedlo6133
@hokagedlo6133 3 года назад
Windu's force ability it allows him to pin point a enemies weakness and use it against them like he did with sidious
@ethanoux10
@ethanoux10 3 года назад
I mean his lightsaber is purple what else do you need?
@carterluczywo2712
@carterluczywo2712 3 года назад
My lightsaber is pretty cool
@highraven8891
@highraven8891 3 года назад
Theres a reason behind it
@DefenestrateYourself
@DefenestrateYourself 3 года назад
@@highraven8891 Nope lol. Sam Jackson literally just wanted a purple lightsaber and Lukas acquiesced.
@maximusbjj5298
@maximusbjj5298 Год назад
Wasn’t yoda actually winning in his fight again Palpetine just was pushed farther due to his smaller size?
@1000g2g3g4g800999
@1000g2g3g4g800999 5 месяцев назад
I'm pretty sure Yoda also beat Sidious in lightsaber combat considering Sidious gets disarmed by both of them. Nick Gillard is one of the sources for the idea that Sidious just outclasses Windu as a fighter, but the script and what we see on screen kind of just indicates that it isn't the case.
@user-rq6mq4wu1s
@user-rq6mq4wu1s 3 месяца назад
lucas said himself that mace beat palpatine 1v1, so take that what you will
@solomonglover4425
@solomonglover4425 3 года назад
Power of God
@zunderminer3079
@zunderminer3079 3 года назад
In defense of Jango, hes jetpack was broken when the Rhino think rammed him.
@Shhitscarter
@Shhitscarter 3 года назад
Mace would've killed him anyway so it doesn't matter
@zunderminer3079
@zunderminer3079 3 года назад
Maybe i would say depends if hes ganne risk jumping after him, or pull him down with the force however they dont do that alot with flying enemys
@lumbago8
@lumbago8 3 года назад
Yoda only lost to Sidious because of the surroundings. Technically Yoda is stronger than sidious and Windu
@Jedilord882
@Jedilord882 2 года назад
Fact. Vaapad is useless vs Yoda and Yoda is naturally the better lightsaber duelist.
@lumbago8
@lumbago8 2 года назад
@@Jedilord882 and he's also the strongest with the force
@Jedilord882
@Jedilord882 2 года назад
@@lumbago8 the fact yoda is able to surpass Palpatines saber skills without vapaad (opposite to mace) and simply because his use of Ataru is that fucking good … is a testament to why Sidious was fucking TERRIFIED of Yoda.
@Gooberexploring
@Gooberexploring Год назад
@@Jedilord882 vappod works differently in canon that’s legends vappod
@isaacheard4202
@isaacheard4202 Год назад
If only mace used anakin to teach him vaapad
@BillyJay-kk8oq
@BillyJay-kk8oq Месяц назад
Mace is the G.O.A.T.
@chewy99.
@chewy99. Год назад
There are no statements that Sidious let Windu win, but there are none that confirm he didn’t, or that Sidious would have actually ended up dead had Anakin not intervened at all. It was a fact in Anakin’s mind that that would happen, but not actually confirmation that it would’ve. I have no doubt that Sidious would’ve done something to save himself had Anakin not done anything. He is more powerful than Mace, and thus could focus on force pushing him away before he would strike, and likely disarm him, allowing Palpatine to shoot lighting at him with his full strength, killing the Jedi master.
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues Год назад
I provided a statement in this video that Adair Sidious would have died if Anakin didn’t save him.
@seanhewitt603
@seanhewitt603 Месяц назад
Windu, Sidious' pale shadow... A poor substitute, left to the jedi to assimilate, for he was a wuss.
@spacewindu3824
@spacewindu3824 11 месяцев назад
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEESH!
@leatherface1169
@leatherface1169 3 года назад
Doesn’t each dark side disciple continuously get weaker
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 3 года назад
No they get continuously stronger
@goosee7776
@goosee7776 2 года назад
I flew in and out of your old lady's beep" the other night"
@goosee7776
@goosee7776 2 года назад
Lol
@anthonyp6896
@anthonyp6896 6 месяцев назад
In Revenge of the Sith he used Vape pad as well as shatterpoint to that's how he beat Sidious
@betocapano9515
@betocapano9515 2 года назад
Did He save Grogu ?
@elfspiros1
@elfspiros1 3 года назад
The most powerful star wars characters(from movies) : 6th Place :Agen Kolar ≈ Saesee Tiin ≈ Sifo-Dyas 5th Place : Ki-Adi-Mundi ≈ kit fisto ≈ General Grievous 4th Place : Qui-Gon Jinn ≈ Count Dooku ≈ Darth Maul 3th Place : Obi-Wan Kenobi ≈ Anakin Skywalker ≈ Luke Skywalker 2th Place : Mace Windu ≈ Darth Vader ≈ Darth Plagueis 1th Place : Yoda ≈ Darth Sidious
@Vader255
@Vader255 3 года назад
Gotta disagree maul should be higher grevouis lower and how is dooku lower than obi wan
@Vader255
@Vader255 3 года назад
Where is ploo koon
@dabluedeuce1389
@dabluedeuce1389 3 года назад
Make more Star Wars power scaling videos
@danielcooke3732
@danielcooke3732 2 года назад
Darth Nihlus
@funkytownjedi
@funkytownjedi Год назад
😎👏🏾👏🏾
@user-tx2kq1qz8x
@user-tx2kq1qz8x 5 месяцев назад
Darth city's knows he can't beat window. So he has to hold his own long enough for anakin to get in his location before mace when do kills him
@cherechesalexdaniel811
@cherechesalexdaniel811 3 года назад
In my opinion the power of the verse is around large mountain to small island level. My reasoning for this is that Yoda casually bullied a living mountain, Vader blocked photon torpedos witch can damage large space ships with around this level of durability and Palpatines big lightning bolt in The Rise of Skywalker was calculated at around this level. For speed it ranges between lightning timing and relativistic to light. Because jedi can block sith lightning and can pilot ships that even with their base speed (not hyperspace) are around relativistic to light speed.
@crimsonmaelstrom573
@crimsonmaelstrom573 Год назад
I’m actually a Vaapad user with my katana. I’m almost a real life Mace Windu
@jackxiao9702
@jackxiao9702 3 года назад
Yoda can beat Mace, Mace can beat any Sith because Vapaad is Sith Kyrptonite, Vapaad is a mirror that reflects dark side energy. Only Mace, using Vapaad can reflect lightning.
@KeyIssues
@KeyIssues 3 года назад
No that’s not how it works as I showed in the video.
@anthonynielsen6265
@anthonynielsen6265 3 года назад
There is no way yoda can beat mace,
@jaypowell3527
@jaypowell3527 2 года назад
Dude hes uses SHATTERPOINT in canon....in ep 3 novel (which are still canon) mace senses the shatter between anakin and the chancellor...its just the cloud over the force that stops him from connecting the dots too late....right?
@Gooberexploring
@Gooberexploring 2 года назад
With Disney taking over it’s not canon anymore
@DeathStormRed
@DeathStormRed Год назад
Mace almost squish Grievous like a bug as soon as he see him and it was kinda ridiculous that he did not finish end Griev because of the ship raising altitude is a joke since Windu could just as easy turn that small shuttle in a shoebox or at least bring the ship back to the ground.
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