How punk shaped electronic music | Resident Advisor 

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Well said

Well said

Skateboarding is punk rock

Absolutely. For me, I see punk as a platform for outsider artists to give it 100% without being filtered by 'best practices' etc. It's hit and miss but when it hits it's on fire. I vote for Panik by Metal Urbain as a classic punk/electronic fusion. Love Suicide!

Yes I thought that while watching. Great documentary with interviews with many synth pop pioneers

Definitely worth seeing!

You should also try the doc Made in Sheffield

You said it for me. I'm staring at a broken Omni in the corner of the room as I type this. I bought it second hand in the late 80's to get that Joy Division sound and it stopped working a week later. Made in America.

i saw this video from as a philosophical exercise, like what gave the larger influence of the whole scene, like DIY mentality et al....

I'm not denying that, just found it strange when they mentioned Joy Division's Bernard Sumner making their own synths as a landmark, like they were the first ones to it. To be fair, I'm picking holes now. Still very good videos, and great introductions and line ties for the general public.

Also, I think Suicide should have been mentioned. They were considered one of the first "punk" acts to use synths and electronics, and their recordings helped pave the way for synth pop, industrial, and of course electronic dance music.

I'm surprised the Gang of Four (invented Dance Punk) and Dead Can Dance weren't mentioned. Seem like fairly obvious touchstones.

To be fair, you can't cover everything within this very broad topic. I think we, myself included, are asking too much of a 7/8 minute video.

also the early punk squat/rave crossover, Mutoid Waste Company etc

Another part of the punk to dance path was record stores. The distribution networks and retailers that grew up selling unconventional records like punk, then post-punk, often also distributed/sold dance music, and some were record labels themselves. Wax Trax! in Chicago was a prime example of all of this.

yes i agree

You miss the point, Victor. The ethic of punk created the electronic music scene. As an aging punk who grew up in Detroit in the 70's I was fortunate to be part of this ground breaking scene. Punk became trance and techno not because of musical influences, but because of shared social values. It was (and to a large extent still is) about telling the music industry to fuck off, we'll diy. Samples are shared like musical instruments - hooks and riffs are reused again and again as commonly as musical instruments once were. Record companies would be going around from band to band demanding royalties for sampling; producers often now release their music under licenses like the GPL, telling the industry to GFY, we don't need you.

Ministry and Die Warzau

Obsolete Beats I think they did

those groups aren't punk

@robinsss Suicide not punk? lmao

Suicide could be heard as proto-punk. Throbbing Gristle never self-identified as punk (preferring industrial). Kraftwerk also predates punk but most certainly provided a fatherly influence on several post-punk groups.

@@DerekPower "Suicide are groundbreakers!" (Words of Lydia Lunch)

What a forgettable record that was, thank goodness the Germans did so much Prolific music and innovation with synths, who did we have that were keeping up with them in the UK?

Foetus was in New York, most of that time, part of and parodying No Wave

I was kinda hoping they would get all the way to breakcore, I feel like there's definitely a solid punk influence there even if it is quite far removed

Exactly sir, but RA and others self-entitled cool magazines consider Techno and Deep House the epithome of electronic music, kidnapping the role of avanguarde and always glorifying the Berlin and Detroit scenes, laughable idiots...

Thats why people over at The Wire are smirking.

Except it does 99% of the time. EVer seen a Aphex Twin live performance? Jean Michel Jarre? Bonobo? Most non dance electronic music acts do play electronic dance music for live performances. Dont be stupid

Except then it sounds like they're chatting about EDM

True. Electronic music itself is way older than just the 70's.

danzilor As well as Metal Urbain and industrial artists like Throbbing Gristle and Cabaret Voltaire

Throbbing Gristle for sure needs to be mentioned

I thought the same. Suicide might be the most important band with ties to both punk and electronic music.

Literally the band that first used "punk show" on a flyer.

I actually didn't know this, I need to see this poster haha.

that would be an entirely separate 20 minute video i reckon

And don't forget about the origins of Industrial. Like Musique Concrete,Avant-Garde music and Noise music.

Ever hear Deathset? ;)

@@n1lla thank you for that recommendation

Huge omission. Cabaret Voltaire were absolutely seminal.

best comment so far!

Stephen Morris talks about his experiences with Hawkwind and the festival scene (and acid) as a teenager before Joy Division. The free festival scene went its own way in the early 80s, but provided a critical element of rave a few years later.

This video is fatuous drivel.

FOSSIL FUEL word

Even so . How can you not mention Nitzer Ebb or front 242

Naaah, there was a massive crossover in the 80's, Mutoid Waste parties, On U Sound, Peckham Dole House, Hacienda, The Clash getting into hip hop etc

I disagree about Industrial being the only place Punk and New Wave intersected. New Wave was a movement in rock/pop music just as much as it was a style that could be identified by musical characteristics. And as part of that movement, there were many punk & post punk acts who may not have been pure quintessential New Wave acts but could still be seen as being on the periphery of the New Wave movement. So punk bands like The Clash definitely had New Wave elements to their work like the Combat Rock album. Likewise some of The Cure‘s more commercial and less gothic songs could be seen as leaning closer to new wave than their usual post punk stuff, same goes for Siouxshie and the Banshees. And overall there’s plenty more examples of where punk/post punk and new wave can be seen intersecting. I really don’t think industrial is the only middle ground between the two styles here.

If you're as old as you say you are, how could you have forgotten crossover Punk/Electronic acts like Suicide or The Normal?

Not to diminish their profound influence at all, but the topic of this video is how punk influenced electronic music - as much as I love them they're not a punk act

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@@pablogates5355 much appreciated.