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In 2018, Rebecca Sugar's "Steven Universe" featured both the first LGBTQ wedding and the first LGBTQ marriage proposal in a kids' animated TV show. And in 2020, Benson from "Kipo and the Age of Wonderbeasts" was the first kids' animated character to directly identify themselves as gay. These are groundbreaking achievements in LGBTQ representation, but it took a long time and a lot of hard work to get here. Here's a look back at how LGBTQ characters in kids' shows evolved from Hays Code-era stereotypes and queer-coded villains.
And check out Insider's database here, cataloguing more than 200 confirmed LGBTQ characters in kids' animation: insider.com/lgbtq-cartoon-char...
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@Insider
@Insider 2 года назад
Check out Insider's database here, cataloguing more than 200 confirmed LGBTQ characters in kids' animation: www.insider.com/lgbtq-cartoon-characters-kids-database-2021-06?page=explore-database
@lordfezerellii
@lordfezerellii 2 года назад
Thats not a good thing. Children's shows shouldnt be sexualized in ANY way
@_PuppetMaster86
@_PuppetMaster86 Год назад
@@lordfezerellii Of course. Gender representation is necessary though for many children to understand others who are different from what is considered “normal”.
@jaymosupreme
@jaymosupreme Год назад
I have a problem with adult activity being put in children's cartoons no matter what YOUR lifestyle choices are‼️‼️‼️ STOP IMPOSING ADULT ACTIVITY ON CHILDREN ‼️‼️‼️PREDICTORS ‼️‼️‼️
@Bandlab505
@Bandlab505 Год назад
Im glad im not gay but im ok with my friend is lesbian
@Bandlab505
@Bandlab505 Год назад
By the woman staring the gay stuff
@rulamantic
@rulamantic 3 года назад
Rebecca Sugar putting Ruby in the Wedding Dress was the biggest passive aggressive middle finger to the countries that tried making Ruby male to stop the LGBT representation. And Ruby totally rocked the dress by the way, what a queen.
@the.muffin
@the.muffin 3 года назад
Yessssss
@hobiyoon
@hobiyoon 3 года назад
Yes
@SamuelSamuelSamuel1
@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 3 года назад
She’s so sneaky and intelligent… she’s the only non male I’ve ever been attracted to… *erm gae* 🕺
@porkypy
@porkypy 3 года назад
So that's why there's a massive ocean in Siberia.
@AUGGHAHAHA
@AUGGHAHAHA 2 года назад
we love a queen
@alexis2012fulvlogs
@alexis2012fulvlogs 3 года назад
Wait Velma is lesbian?? I thought she was American 😭
@shotz0095
@shotz0095 2 года назад
Bruuuuh im ☠️
@jays_drawings4405
@jays_drawings4405 2 года назад
im👻
@lemongrab9487
@lemongrab9487 2 года назад
The 'confusion background music ' instantly played after I read this.
@spacekid9680
@spacekid9680 2 года назад
"Hey. I'm a lesbian" "I thought you were American!"
@chocopudding69
@chocopudding69 2 года назад
Waiting to r/woosh someone
@valsonder
@valsonder 2 года назад
i find it kind of ironic that the main effect of villains being queer-coded for decades in kids animation is that a lot of queer people grew up loving villains and not being sure why
@SamuelSamuelSamuel1
@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 2 года назад
My first crush was Kovu from the Lion king 2… I was like 5. And I was like *WAIT HES A GUY… OH NO OH NO*
@spootymaniacs
@spootymaniacs 2 года назад
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 mine was rocko from rockos modern life lmao, i was like 6 or 7
@Cieln0va
@Cieln0va 2 года назад
@@spootymaniacs my first one was... nobody, I'm ace But i really liked Jaafar and his general aesthetic, everything he's in is just a ~~*vibe*~~
@mathiaskroll7420
@mathiaskroll7420 2 года назад
Because they gay
@alishaanimations3058
@alishaanimations3058 2 года назад
Raquelle…Malificent oh gosh Malificent
@cromwellcruz
@cromwellcruz 2 года назад
i love it how the episode Garnet got married was the same one where Yellow Diamond and Blue Diamond attacked. Rebecca really said "you cant skip this episode" and went lmao
@pencilRC1
@pencilRC1 2 года назад
OMG YES. It basically forced people to watch it or they’d be confused.
@dazedandconfused5711
@dazedandconfused5711 Год назад
this is not a good thing- it means the second lgbtq wedding shared time with the beginning of the rdemption ark for the space tyrants
@persono6658
@persono6658 Год назад
@@dazedandconfused5711 that’s ok as long as more people viewed said wedding
@tintincruz8660
@tintincruz8660 Год назад
​@@dazedandconfused5711 Ffs not everything is black and white. Had they developed the diamond's arc better we wouldn't be having this conversation.
@IamtheSpy2005
@IamtheSpy2005 Год назад
Feels like a forced agenda.
@kokepasu4583
@kokepasu4583 3 года назад
This video shouldn't have been called "in children's animation," it should have been "in western children's animation." The main characters in Patalliro were in a clear gay relationship all the way back in the 70s.
@-SuperCraigIsGay-
@-SuperCraigIsGay- 2 года назад
Yesss, although the anime itself was from the early '80s, the manga was the '70s. Either way, it's considered the first anime to show characters openly in that manner.
@janaekelis
@janaekelis 2 года назад
more specifically, American animation. Sailor Moon had a gay couple and another anime from the 80s had a trans love interest
@generalsynch6519
@generalsynch6519 2 года назад
@@janaekelis wow I would have never imagined
@abbycakes____officialgacha8422
@abbycakes____officialgacha8422 2 года назад
Lettuce 🥬😍
@PorcelainB0nes
@PorcelainB0nes 2 года назад
I love your lettuce avatar!
@AwesomeBoysJPTV
@AwesomeBoysJPTV 3 года назад
Disney: Not Allowing LGBTQ+ In Gravity Falls. Also Disney: Happy Pride Month!
@weareorigin
@weareorigin 3 года назад
every year Disney send massive emails to go buy Pride Month Disney merchandise
@-elliott-averagedragonenjo1812
@-elliott-averagedragonenjo1812 3 года назад
The officers are gay?? Also mable wore a pride hoodie in the love episode
@rowangajdzik2540
@rowangajdzik2540 3 года назад
@@-elliott-averagedragonenjo1812 well, Alex wanted to make a scene where cupid makes two old woman fall in love but disney didn't allow it so insted he decided to make Mable's sweater rainbow
@srami004
@srami004 3 года назад
It's all about the $$$
@-elliott-averagedragonenjo1812
@-elliott-averagedragonenjo1812 3 года назад
@@rowangajdzik2540 :( I want more old people pride
@rjd-kh8et
@rjd-kh8et 2 года назад
Gaston is definitely not queer-coded. He's practically the definition of toxic masculinity.
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 2 года назад
Queer vs GOP, just recently covered epicly by Some-More-News.
@Dempsey1873
@Dempsey1873 Год назад
*definition of based*
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 Год назад
@Telleva You missed the full-comment here, mate. Please re-read.
@NicolasConnault
@NicolasConnault Год назад
How can you define something that doesn't exist?
@lordexellion3946
@lordexellion3946 Год назад
@Telleva they're all toxic what you mean lol
@sobree9743
@sobree9743 2 года назад
People watching Steven universe. Genocide: oof, that's sad. Kids will get it. Gay characters: oh my gosh its too adult how r our kids gonna understand its complex stuff just don't talk about it its fine
@WaterInmyHands
@WaterInmyHands 3 года назад
Japan has allowed LGBTQ stuff in children's animated shows for years, Sailor moon for example.
@davecarlton8239
@davecarlton8239 3 года назад
The evil enemy Berg Katse of Science Ninja Team Gatchaman [1972] (brought over as Battle of the Planets [1978]) was a great character both male and female!
@niga3
@niga3 2 года назад
Good for them. Still don't like Japan.
@breagle4525
@breagle4525 2 года назад
@@AUGGHAHAHA because they invaded the Philippines Edit: this is satire, you guys can stop now.
@RedJet-bq6fq
@RedJet-bq6fq 2 года назад
@@breagle4525 do you like the USA?
@breagle4525
@breagle4525 2 года назад
@@RedJet-bq6fq not really
@chengyiq3066
@chengyiq3066 3 года назад
If Princess Bubblegum & Marceline the Vampire Queen from Adventure Time are an item together, wouldn't that also make Prince Gumball & Marshall Lee the Vampire King from the alternate universe an item too??
@AmbarGriss
@AmbarGriss 3 года назад
I do hope so
@lrham
@lrham 3 года назад
noooo
@lrham
@lrham 3 года назад
don't ruined my childhood. i want fiona and marshall lee together
@RadilRaaid12
@RadilRaaid12 3 года назад
I prefer not to think of a male marceline and bublegum. thanks
@asamahoesaegi543
@asamahoesaegi543 3 года назад
LOL the moment i saw pb and marcy kiss, i though that exact same thing!
@ma3mc3mu-X
@ma3mc3mu-X 2 года назад
Disney was cray-cray far behind in the "other" relationships. Double-Trouble isn't just a non-binary character from "She-Ra and the Princesses of Power", they're also voiced by a non-binary person in real life. That proves once and for all that DreamWorks is better than Disney; they're not afraid to take risks.
@Thot_Patrol_USA
@Thot_Patrol_USA 2 года назад
alright that’s actually pretty cool lol
@bi-lociraptor6322
@bi-lociraptor6322 2 года назад
Everyone in She-ra except probably Shadow Weaver, Angella and Micah are confirmed lgbt
@davidmoore5004
@davidmoore5004 Год назад
Woke mess
@residentkane
@residentkane Год назад
​@@davidmoore5004 someone's existence is “woke” now????
@bigdumb539
@bigdumb539 2 года назад
As a Malaysian that watched Steven Universe on TV, I was surprised to find out Ruby and Sapphire actually got married! They actually cut out the scene in my country because I remember LGBTQ+ isn't allowed in my country.. quite sad, but at least I know that the representation are shown!
@afriendofmara
@afriendofmara 2 года назад
omg ikr they cut out everything lgbtq+ related, including one major scene of a lesbian wedding from cw supergirl's finale.. but anyways check out She-ra and the Princesses of Power on Netflix 🥰
@incognito2823
@incognito2823 2 года назад
Poor kids. Their parents should pay attention to what their kids are watching. The world is degenerate.
@colehansen9491
@colehansen9491 Год назад
Why can’t more countries be like Malaysia?
@McFaddenWasRight
@McFaddenWasRight Год назад
That has no place in a children's show.
@hampai7137
@hampai7137 Год назад
@@McFaddenWasRight what about bugs bunny kissing another character
@derheadbanger9039
@derheadbanger9039 3 года назад
Not a single mention of Sailor Moon and the atrocious way they treated Jadeite, Haruka & Michiru, Fisheye or the Sailor Strars in the US localisation? I'm german where they kept the characters queer sometimes. So Sailor Moon was the earliest cartoon where I was taking notice of queer people as a child.
@JS-ps9hb
@JS-ps9hb 3 года назад
I think the scope is limited to American animation studios, but your point is well taken.
@theheavy4813
@theheavy4813 3 года назад
You mean Michiru kagemori?
@derheadbanger9039
@derheadbanger9039 3 года назад
@@theheavy4813 Michiru Kaiou / Sailor Neptune
@KrizSykx
@KrizSykx 3 года назад
Utena is another anime example that you won't see anywhere and as the name of the aniem implies, it was revolutionary!
@alifkembaraalam2487
@alifkembaraalam2487 3 года назад
@@KrizSykx well i don't know about it. Maybe steven universe and she-ra inspired by Utena. Some of the scene match Utena storyboard
@bengermin3104
@bengermin3104 3 года назад
If I was a kid watching a show with my parents, no matter the gender, if the characters are kissing I would cringe a bit
@EstebanW-zu8xb
@EstebanW-zu8xb 2 года назад
You are my kinda person
@naluanj9628
@naluanj9628 2 года назад
i would look away
@ibrahimkalim864
@ibrahimkalim864 2 года назад
@@naluanj9628 same
@palavimooteveerene7072
@palavimooteveerene7072 2 года назад
I feel even weird to watch a full out make out scene with my parents and i'm an adult. I usually take my phone or get up to go to the toilet. It's way too awkward.
@gwynzynoodles2553
@gwynzynoodles2553 2 года назад
YOOOO SAME THO LIKE I’M A HUGE SHIPPER OF MANY SHIPS BUT I CAN’T STAND SEEING THEM KISS IDK WHY
@AkumaDiablo-lr3sc
@AkumaDiablo-lr3sc Год назад
This is why I love The Owl House series. It is pretty much a gaint middle finger, saying "Frick You!", to a majority of the animation industry.
@johannjohannes8265
@johannjohannes8265 Год назад
It's basically the new mainstream and normality would be the big middle finger
@JW-um5pg
@JW-um5pg Год назад
Everyone wants to complain that this is being "forced" upon them, but its their resistance that makes it forced. Really, none of this should be a big deal in the slightest bit. It should be the norm because it is normal in real life. Gay people exist. Get over it.
@ironmoron512
@ironmoron512 Год назад
That still doesn't mean this lifestyle should be promoted
@ryv1n572
@ryv1n572 Год назад
@@ironmoron512 "turn gay now and get 20% off!" or what? You can't promote a sexuality, since it's impossible to change one's, and saying straight couples kissing is promotion would be just as dumb
@penny4thought168
@penny4thought168 Год назад
@@ironmoron512 Why shouldn't it? Why should straight relationships be promoted but not this?
@ironmoron512
@ironmoron512 Год назад
@@Julio_AS pretty sure it is
@goofy25x
@goofy25x Год назад
@@ironmoron512 and belittling someone who is themselves isnt?
@akihikosakurai4013
@akihikosakurai4013 3 года назад
Velma is lesbian? Wait a minute I specifically remember her dating shaggy at once point
@slartybartfast
@slartybartfast 3 года назад
Maybe that's what made her realize she's gay
@st4rdyy
@st4rdyy 3 года назад
Perhaps she's pansexual?? Not sureee
@leoperez6737
@leoperez6737 3 года назад
we all have down points
@tonykhang1984
@tonykhang1984 3 года назад
thats either her awakening or shes bi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi 3 года назад
The video is implying that she was always a lesbian or coded as such and that is simply untrue. She was created in the 1960's and, because of the prevailing mindset, it is almost certain that she was not designed to be queer in any way shape or form. Now Scooby Doo has many different versions and iterations that are always exploring new takes on the character. Because of this, it's impossible to say there is a "definitive" or "canon" version of the character that applies across all continuities. In some versions Velma is sarcastic, in other versions she's timid. Sometimes she's white, but one time she was Asian. This variation can, theoretically, also apply to her sexuality. So it is theoretically possible for Velma to be straight in one continuity and gay or bi in another. But again, at best this only applies to that specific continuity. You can't say Mystery Incorporated Velma is gay and therefore Velma in all Scooby Doo media is gay, to assert so would simply be untrue. So now the question is has Velma ever been labeled as queer in any official Scooby Doo media. And the answer to this is honestly no. The closest they got was in Mystery Incorporated where a producer said Velma was gay 7+ years after the show finished airing. Now there is debate about whether something is official if it's confirmed outside the show in a tweet or interview. In my book, the answer is no, if you want something to be canon it needs to explicitly be proven in the show. Not to mention anyone can say something after the fact, but that doesn't mean it was true when that product was actually airing. But even if you don't have a view on canon as strict as me, I think labeling Velma as gay in a social media post completely defeats the point of representation. Representation is about seeing yourself or other people in media and if you need to reveal the truth 7 years later for people to realize that a character was written as gay, that's not representation. Because the fact is, there was nothing in that show that ever confirmed Velma was gay. Ironically, the show makes a much stronger case for Velma being straight given how much screentime is dedicated to showing her relationship with Shaggy. So that is my absurdly long comment about Velma and the whole issue of her being gay. Will Velma be written as gay in the future? Maybe. In fact, WB has hinted that's the plan. But has she been written as gay before? A _very_ generous kinda. At best, Velma was written with the intention of being gay in a single iteration of the tv show but it was so poorly communicated that you wouldn't know it just by watching the show. *TL;DR You cannot label Velma as gay because there are many versions of her and the video is not approaching the issue with enough nuance. In many versions, Velma is straight. At best, the character was gay in a single tv show but even that is debatably canon.*
@mendyc158
@mendyc158 3 года назад
Title should be “in the US” In Latin America, for the most part (or from what I remember), they didn’t care if cartoons or anime characters were gay.. they would translate it with the gayness and everything From the top of my head, Sailor Moon, Sakura Card Captor, Saint Seiya were soooo different in the US as they tried to hide the gay parts In Latin America it was there
@justhereowo351
@justhereowo351 3 года назад
another good example was an old anime called Candy Candy, I don’t remember which character was but they didn’t censored it here in México
@sunder739
@sunder739 3 года назад
I'm not from America as well but my only expression was like... eh.
@Bluelightsinthesky
@Bluelightsinthesky 3 года назад
@@justhereowo351 YEAH I REMEMBER THAT SHOW
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi 3 года назад
Yeah, I saw their data, they only looked at cartoons made in the United States or Canada.
@radiophobia597
@radiophobia597 3 года назад
seh, es verdad, pero es irónico XD
@violetmiraidon
@violetmiraidon Год назад
Bigots be like: Straight marriage and constant kissing scenes: great kids’ movie! 1 same sex kiss: This is pedophilia and indocrination
@KingNerdius
@KingNerdius Год назад
Factual
@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme
@PrincessMavenKittyDarkholme 11 месяцев назад
Sexy female characters doing subtly sussy stuff = OK
@qtips069
@qtips069 Год назад
Disney: we don’t allow children to be exposed to gayness Cartoon Network: let’s make a show about gay rocks
@ghostcell06-_-85
@ghostcell06-_-85 2 года назад
Let’s not forget the owl house to show the first bisexual Disney protagonist
@daniidanboy
@daniidanboy 2 года назад
God we're so close
@cryptidnip
@cryptidnip 2 года назад
And a lesbian main character/non-binary character!!
@Piflle
@Piflle 2 года назад
I convinced my 6 year old brother to watch it and his reaction was absolutely hilarious
@huskythefurry5066
@huskythefurry5066 2 года назад
@JOEbaconJOJO RBLX What?
@huskythefurry5066
@huskythefurry5066 2 года назад
@JOEbaconJOJO RBLX :\\\
@joebaumgart1146
@joebaumgart1146 2 года назад
I liked Todd coming out as Ace on Bojack. He's the only openly asexual character in fiction.
@nehas9239
@nehas9239 2 года назад
Sex education on Netflix has an openly ace character! There’s also an aroace character in the anime Bloom Into You though the term aroace isn’t used I think
@isobel9195
@isobel9195 2 года назад
Alistair The radio Demon is canonically asexual
@vphobicc566
@vphobicc566 2 года назад
jughead from the archie comics is aromantic asexual too.
@depressedbatmann
@depressedbatmann 2 года назад
@@vphobicc566 look how they massacred my boy in River Dale
@annasxfa
@annasxfa 2 года назад
same, it made me so happy!
@josedensworth1742
@josedensworth1742 2 года назад
(Gay characters kissing) "omg that is too adult", (hetero characters kissing) "aww"
@convolutedconvex
@convolutedconvex 2 года назад
*boy pecking another boy gently on his cheek* the straights: ewwwwwww get that out of my child’s face! *a man and a woman making out on the television that kids are watching* the straights: this is fine
@trim-FN
@trim-FN 2 года назад
Because that's normal
@trim-FN
@trim-FN 2 года назад
It's completely different
@kutubeg
@kutubeg 2 года назад
@@trim-FN how is it different?
@josedensworth1742
@josedensworth1742 2 года назад
@@trim-FN Normal? What do you mean? Are you living around a rock? Gay people have always existed, and society today is much more inclusive rather than those dumb boomer generation that only follows a book written by old men.
@wackyroxy3034
@wackyroxy3034 Год назад
People in the comments when a happy man and a woman get married in a kids cartoon: 🙂 People in the comments when 2 happy woman get married in a kids cartoon: 😨😡😭
@firerain2230
@firerain2230 Год назад
Fr
@C0metm
@C0metm Год назад
It’s called being normal.
@dawnmapeso6560
@dawnmapeso6560 Год назад
@@C0metm being gay is normal tho.
@KingNerdius
@KingNerdius Год назад
​@@C0metm it's called being a bigot
@C0metm
@C0metm Год назад
@@KingNerdius I can literally offend you easily Actually everyone here ✈️🏢🏢 If you want me to delete it than stop being woke.
@julianosvonskingrad7009
@julianosvonskingrad7009 3 года назад
I remember seeing "Ferdinand The Bull" as a kid. I was always much more peaceful and quiet than the other boys. And seeing this muscular, strong bull being gentle and loving flowers was for me like: "There is no rule in nature that one thing is not combineable with the other!".
@SamuelSamuelSamuel1
@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 3 года назад
Same here. When I was little my mom would let me paint my nails (My dad and her would fight about it) but I did it, and my mom loved me every step of my path :). I’m gay, and a have the most lovely mom :)… I don’t speak to my dad, and that kinda hurts… To end on a happy note my mom used to be called ✨The Faghag✨ because all of her friends were gay, trans or lesbian Now all but 1 of her children are in one way or another LGBTQ+ 💀, and she’s proud of all of us 😊.
@Dino-lemon265
@Dino-lemon265 3 года назад
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 awww
@bettievw
@bettievw 2 года назад
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 that's such a wonderful story. So many stories queer people tell are sad, because life is hard for many of us, so it's amazing to see stories like yours!
@asmi14
@asmi14 2 года назад
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 your mother is great
@philcollinslover56705
@philcollinslover56705 2 года назад
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 honestly ur mom is amazing, and i want to be like her when i grow up. what a role model 👍👍👍
@ginntastic
@ginntastic 3 года назад
I still remember when sailor moon was dubbed into English they made edits and cuts to make sailor Neptune and sailor Uranus cousins. I could tell something was off so I looked it up online and saw in the original anime they were partners and lovers. Then Sailor stars was supposedly never dubbed because they didn't knew how american audiences would handle the sailor stars being one gender when transformed (female) and disguised as another when not transformed on earth (male).
@taxevader5386
@taxevader5386 2 года назад
Yo there were lesbians in that show?
@redmims
@redmims 2 года назад
@@taxevader5386 there was also a trans woman I believe that was one of their villains in the later seasons and two of the main villains for season 1 were in a gay relationship but that was only in the 1st anime I believe
@taxevader5386
@taxevader5386 2 года назад
@@redmims that's really cool, It's a shame America censored it.
@megajaredx9679
@megajaredx9679 2 года назад
@@taxevader5386 Several gays and lesbians and sailor stars were trans or something in the anime only
@knightwolf5006
@knightwolf5006 2 года назад
like the baphomet?
@Twig_ccj
@Twig_ccj Год назад
I feel like adults are forgetting lgbtq kids exist…
@incrediblesnn
@incrediblesnn 10 месяцев назад
@@Kanye_westt no tho?
@pjdixon6199
@pjdixon6199 9 месяцев назад
@@Kanye_westt nope lmao
@CoolCjstar
@CoolCjstar 7 месяцев назад
@@Kanye_westthow
@bigboyart1
@bigboyart1 2 года назад
I grew up with Steven Universe. When I was young and saw that prison break episode I realized that I wasn't the only one in the world who was gay. I expected first hand why representation in media matters.
@busterchops445
@busterchops445 2 года назад
CRINGE.
@vuvuo
@vuvuo 2 года назад
@@busterchops445 you're cringe
@notwhiterefrigeratoromgple4085
when i was young i didnt know that gays exist even tho i am one back then when i was 15 or younger To be honest i just didnt care if us gay are not represented cause we do exist THE WORLD KNOWS that we exist and we are a threat their belives ..
@colehansen9491
@colehansen9491 Год назад
But does it need to be in a kids movie?
@notwhiterefrigeratoromgple4085
@@colehansen9491 who cares ?! If parents dont want to watch it then they shouldt show it to their kids we are not hurting nobody
@eliseerickson5994
@eliseerickson5994 3 года назад
People were okay with a BUMBLEBEE dating a human woman but they're mad about 2 nonbinary people kissing?
@charlieemily7319
@charlieemily7319 3 года назад
Yeah, people don’t make sense 😑 If a robot can date a human according to them why cant two humans date?
@dyoufr
@dyoufr 3 года назад
@@charlieemily7319 they can
@charlieemily7319
@charlieemily7319 3 года назад
@@dyoufr I know I’m just talking about tv logic according to homophobes-
@-gummyworm-2606
@-gummyworm-2606 3 года назад
Ikr
@dyoufr
@dyoufr 3 года назад
@@charlieemily7319 oh you talking about women to women dating and men to men dating
@kurtkunklesbiggestfan9311
@kurtkunklesbiggestfan9311 2 года назад
Luz and Amity is also a big step they are openly dating both girls the show even called them girlfriends :)
@khv12345
@khv12345 2 года назад
yes! and luz is a woc as well and there’s not much rep for queer poc
@suikity
@suikity 2 года назад
I'm surprised Disney approved this
@iheartdottore9962
@iheartdottore9962 2 года назад
@@suikity but it’s good they did :))
@suikity
@suikity 2 года назад
@@iheartdottore9962 honestly yeah, it's a good thing. Hopefully they'll accept this more in the future.
@daili12
@daili12 2 года назад
@@iheartdottore9962 I think they didn't want it, but the creator of the show did
@Zappr
@Zappr 2 года назад
Growing up with basically 0 lgbtq+ stuff in kids shows, it felt a bit weird seeing it for the first time, but I am glad it is getting more widespread.
@agestatsega
@agestatsega 2 года назад
@@SamuelSamuelSamuel1 What
@everythingyousayiscorrect
@everythingyousayiscorrect 2 года назад
We were shaped by an era that groomed toxic masculinity into children at a young age.
@McFaddenWasRight
@McFaddenWasRight Год назад
It has no business being in children's programing.
@Zappr
@Zappr Год назад
@@McFaddenWasRight Definitely depends a lot on the context
@bakedbeans5494
@bakedbeans5494 Год назад
@@Zappr Context:never!
@marinaheusinger
@marinaheusinger 2 года назад
Imagine feeling offended over this
@cnash3428
@cnash3428 2 года назад
Even homophobes
@charlotterice3839
@charlotterice3839 2 года назад
To me, the holy trinity is Steven Universe, She-Ra, and The Owl House!
@asmi14
@asmi14 2 года назад
trueee
@flapflapflapflap
@flapflapflapflap 2 года назад
The Knights of the Rountable!
@matheussanthiago9685
@matheussanthiago9685 2 года назад
and don't forget the elder one Legend of Korra
@leximarijulienne
@leximarijulienne 2 года назад
@@matheussanthiago9685 korrasami
@izzypaige07
@izzypaige07 2 года назад
Yup. They're all amazing and wonderful shows with great Representation!
@katietaylor8314
@katietaylor8314 3 года назад
I never realised just how important representation is (albeit I supported it) until Todd came out as asexual on BoJack Horseman and I broke down in tears because I had never, ever seen another asexual on screen before. It was the most incredible feeling; excitement and happiness, yes, but also an immense sense of... *relief*. If there had been representation like that when I was a kid, it could have saved me so many years of confusion and shame. But if there was I never saw it.
@bettievw
@bettievw 2 года назад
It makes me so happy to hear about people coming into their sexuality and gender identity, I hope you're doing well! Thanks for sharing this story, I'm reading all these comments and feeling so much better after a really hard day.
@JohnCenaFan6298
@JohnCenaFan6298 2 года назад
Cringe
@annasxfa
@annasxfa 2 года назад
same! it made me so happy to see asexual representation especially in bojack horseman, i felt so happy that bojack and others accepted todd. it made me cry.
@JohnCenaFan6298
@JohnCenaFan6298 2 года назад
@@annasxfa it made u cry? Lol
@annasxfa
@annasxfa 2 года назад
@@JohnCenaFan6298 yea thats what i said lol
@ertwer6980
@ertwer6980 Год назад
Bugs Bunny isn't LGBTQ+ character. Bugs Bunny has girlfriend is Lola Bunny.
@MultiSuperGuide
@MultiSuperGuide Год назад
Idk, could be bi
@ertwer6980
@ertwer6980 Год назад
@@MultiSuperGuide Bugs isnt Bi
@Batmansgaycousin
@Batmansgaycousin 2 года назад
I hate how parents try to hide the lgbtq+ from kids. I went through a small crisis with being called a girl when I was 7, but I didn’t think it was normal for anyone to feel that way. So I kept quiet about it. Now I’ll say proudly: Hi I’m Tom you can called me Tommy. My pronouns are he/they/it.
@jaoulzn
@jaoulzn 2 года назад
🤢
@corsariocapitao
@corsariocapitao 2 года назад
;-):-)
@cigarts331
@cigarts331 2 года назад
Glad to hear you found yourself, Tommy!
@nizar151
@nizar151 2 года назад
How can your pronoun be "it"...
@hakirose696
@hakirose696 2 года назад
Same, I think that's why my parents hate SU. (Also I use they/them pronouns :>)
@_Juice-box_
@_Juice-box_ 3 года назад
Something I love about Steven universe is that Rebecca didn’t care about the push back
@bakugokatsukiytman7863
@bakugokatsukiytman7863 2 года назад
There was a price to pay for that bit
@bakugokatsukiytman7863
@bakugokatsukiytman7863 2 года назад
I think
@calhuh1232
@calhuh1232 2 года назад
Indeed
@niki7411
@niki7411 2 года назад
@Franky Torres they cut the budget for the show cause of the wedding
@zeeshawtys
@zeeshawtys 2 года назад
@Franky Torres bct bule
@sicparvismagna6526
@sicparvismagna6526 3 года назад
Me: sees Catra and Adora Also me: starts crying
@caliberlight2818
@caliberlight2818 3 года назад
Also Skeletor : WAT
@warmccl
@warmccl 3 года назад
Get your emotions in check.
@Silenceisay
@Silenceisay 3 года назад
literally the same god i loved that show
@neopetgraveyard
@neopetgraveyard 3 года назад
DELETE THIS WHY DID IDO THE SAME
@bakugokatsukiytman7863
@bakugokatsukiytman7863 2 года назад
Oh yeah she ra
@animathehallowed1380
@animathehallowed1380 Год назад
If a country said a show isn’t allowed due to topics like this, then screw that country and I wouldn’t want my show viewed there anyway then.
@KingNerdius
@KingNerdius Год назад
Based
@adammyers7383
@adammyers7383 2 года назад
Rebecca Sugar is literally my hero. while you excluded some stuff (like Lumity, or anything outside the US), I thank you for this video Insider. Sometimes it’s just nice to be reminded that progress is, indeed, happening.
@HoDoBoDo
@HoDoBoDo 2 года назад
You know she drew 18+ art of Ed, Eddn', Eddy right?
@gwynzynoodles2553
@gwynzynoodles2553 2 года назад
@@HoDoBoDo she did W H A T (PFFFTTT LMAO)
@HoDoBoDo
@HoDoBoDo 2 года назад
@@gwynzynoodles2553 She used to make NSFW for Ed, Eddn', Eddy and Ratatouille...
@nenmaster5218
@nenmaster5218 2 года назад
Queer vs GOP, just recently covered epicly by Some-More-News.
@bobolobflob
@bobolobflob 3 года назад
They tried to make Ruby seem more male earlier in the seasons because they weren't sure if it would be openly accepted.
@popinmo
@popinmo 3 года назад
She is male
@genreofa
@genreofa 3 года назад
@@popinmo I’m sorry but ‘she is male’ is the funniest thing I’ve ever seen.
@popinmo
@popinmo 3 года назад
@@genreofa well I mean people refer to her as she but she seems more like a man to me tbh
@steriftes
@steriftes 3 года назад
@@popinmo what da fawk?
@yeahsureray5747
@yeahsureray5747 3 года назад
@@genreofa literally a "They hurt themselves in confusion." Kind of moment 🤣
@allandm
@allandm 3 года назад
When i started having crushes on boys in schools I thought something was wrong with me and it really screwed me up. I never saw gay couples anywhere, and when i did it was seen as a bad thing. I spent years pretending to like girls, trying to change, scared and with nobody to talk to... if I often saw gay couples treatated as normal I wouldn't have panicked and had a horrible time growing up
@clartblart3266
@clartblart3266 3 года назад
This is why representation matters, hope you've come to terms with your sexuality and love and accept yourself just the way you are now! :]
@_steamfunk_2271
@_steamfunk_2271 3 года назад
Get some help
@Cube_Box
@Cube_Box 3 года назад
Get some help
@marchosias2071
@marchosias2071 3 года назад
Hope u are doing well, but guess i dont wanna see gay couples on the street often 🤷‍♂️
@Leon-uu4wk
@Leon-uu4wk 3 года назад
Hope u didn't share it with anyone in your class, if then that boys childhood would have been ruined.
@user-wy8ve5nr2n
@user-wy8ve5nr2n 2 года назад
I don’t want obvious steamy romance in kids show, doesn’t matter the orientation or gender , but I would love deep relationships , I feel many people just want well written pair and beautiful art with small burn , just that
@jesterchaosmaster845
@jesterchaosmaster845 2 года назад
I was at first,afraid of making stories with characters more verbally saying they’re sexualities.But after watching this,I am confident in making my characters more vocal about themselves.
@tweetpop22able
@tweetpop22able 3 года назад
Rebecca Sugar changed the game with Steven Universe. Ruby and Sapphire’s love create one of the best characters ever, Garnet. Truly wish Steven Universe was airing when I was growing up. It’s taken this long for representation to evolve in media, and we still have more to go!
@LSniumUwU
@LSniumUwU 3 года назад
Stop being dumb.
@user-jr1mv2ob9k
@user-jr1mv2ob9k 3 года назад
@@LSniumUwU ?
@niga3
@niga3 2 года назад
@@LSniumUwU you'd be cool if you weren't a furry.
@LSniumUwU
@LSniumUwU 2 года назад
@. Mk.
@DUWANGlai_kangyi
@DUWANGlai_kangyi 2 года назад
@@LSniumUwU why u mad?
@zenyogasteve401
@zenyogasteve401 2 года назад
America: look at all our queer firsts in animation! We are so amazing! Japan: have you even seen anime?
@lexdraws1729
@lexdraws1729 2 года назад
Yaoi isn’t a good representation lol.
@o2o_C
@o2o_C 2 года назад
@@lexdraws1729 cofcofSailorMooncofcof
@pileofsocks8287
@pileofsocks8287 2 года назад
@@lexdraws1729 not only that there's alot of different LGBT things in anime example: saiki k, sailor moon and much more
@megajaredx9679
@megajaredx9679 2 года назад
Three anime for you. Sailor Moon and Utena and Yuri on Ice
@ihml.6945
@ihml.6945 2 года назад
@@lexdraws1729 they weren’t talking about that even if they were it’s still homosexuality represented in animation and tv
@joryknuckles
@joryknuckles Год назад
Man Arthur was really ahead of it's time. The fact they turn around (granted 15+ years later) and full on screen two men getting married is fantastic. I remember why I loved this show so much
@xixisolivo9427
@xixisolivo9427 2 года назад
Don't know if it's the pregnancy hormones or me already being a sensitive person but I cried watching this. I got so excited, happy, and ugh it's just great and beautiful.
@Pablo_Martin_aa
@Pablo_Martin_aa Год назад
Prob both, a cat adopted baby ducks bc she was high on mama hormones
@Sh1garak1s_alt
@Sh1garak1s_alt Год назад
Congratulations
@sammyjess
@sammyjess 3 года назад
Frantically looks for Korrasami**
@oldmanramblingatclouds
@oldmanramblingatclouds 3 года назад
Same!
@alexgac1801
@alexgac1801 3 года назад
They obviously meant American cartoons. They can't be assed to look at the rest of the world. They have to maintain an illusion of social progress, even though trans and queer have been present in japanese medias for decades and sex has been around for...well, forever.
@vgfunman
@vgfunman 3 года назад
@@alexgac1801 Korra *is* an American cartoon.
@mau2759
@mau2759 3 года назад
@@alexgac1801 When you said Japanese Media I chocked on my pretzels
@pyschofreak8416
@pyschofreak8416 3 года назад
👀
@meathead2934
@meathead2934 3 года назад
*Insider includes Ruby and Saphire* Lumity: "Am I a joke to you?"
@nolagranola13
@nolagranola13 3 года назад
PLS I LOOKED AT THIS VIDEO JUST TO SEE IF THEY WOULD BE THERE- they will be eventually
@ishaann4341
@ishaann4341 3 года назад
PLSSSSS
@lazuliartz9008
@lazuliartz9008 3 года назад
Exactly
@ishaann4341
@ishaann4341 3 года назад
Yea, but they still could have added Luz since she is the first lgbtq+ main character in Disney
@empoleonmaster6709
@empoleonmaster6709 3 года назад
The creator has been getting a LOT of bullshit from Disney for The Owl House, recently a trailer aired for the newest season, which included spoilers she wasn't even told would be shown.
@DarthVader-jx7qh
@DarthVader-jx7qh 2 года назад
Bugs bunny kissing was to make it funny and for elmer fudd to be frustrated its not queer it was to make it funny you guys are making this WAY too literal
@goofy25x
@goofy25x Год назад
But the fact is they literally said that it wasnt LGBTQ
@katlyndobransky2419
@katlyndobransky2419 2 года назад
I love all of these examples of representation from my childhood, like Him, Bugs Bunny in Drag, the gems (although they’re genderless), etc. It shouldn’t be prominent to young kids, but it should be something that some of them relate to. Just like romance. Romance and sexuality should never be a huge part of television. It should be treated like a normal thing
@user-lr8ow2jg4e
@user-lr8ow2jg4e 2 года назад
Exactly.
@user-lr8ow2jg4e
@user-lr8ow2jg4e 2 года назад
I feel like the internet romanticizes stuff to much WITH LITERALLY EVERY CHARACTER BEING SHIPPED WITH ANOTHER. I doesn't matter if it is a show about object OR FRIKIN GODZILLA MOVIES. PEOPLE WILL FIND A WAY TO FORCE ROMANCE IN SOME WEIRD WAY. I remember being shocked when dora was not shipped with anybody in the cartoon.
@user-lr8ow2jg4e
@user-lr8ow2jg4e 2 года назад
@kqro bassed and red gummy vitamined
@starmaidenvv
@starmaidenvv 3 года назад
Me: **patiently waits for sailor moon**
@tonykhang1984
@tonykhang1984 3 года назад
anime
@starmaidenvv
@starmaidenvv 3 года назад
@@tonykhang1984 anime is Japanese animation/cartoon
@tonykhang1984
@tonykhang1984 3 года назад
@@starmaidenvv yea but they said children and sailor moon is more of a teens show but yea they missed alota shows
@starmaidenvv
@starmaidenvv 3 года назад
@@tonykhang1984 i get what you mean, but yeah
@tonykhang1984
@tonykhang1984 3 года назад
@@starmaidenvv k cool
@mixiegacha4792
@mixiegacha4792 2 года назад
And people say that Cartoon Network isn’t homophobic… Yep… sure….
@xd._.28234
@xd._.28234 2 года назад
Lol, ye
@xd._.28234
@xd._.28234 2 года назад
They're all Homophobes, if we get gei, it's bc idk how, we achieve it
@spootymaniacs
@spootymaniacs 2 года назад
theyre anti-lgbt if it makes them money but also pro lgbt if it makes them money
@mixiegacha4792
@mixiegacha4792 2 года назад
@@spootymaniacs right ::
@danomyte67
@danomyte67 Год назад
Sucks that some countries can’t enjoy these shows to the fullest
@modernrebel9175
@modernrebel9175 Год назад
Blame religion for that
@OmGoshStudios
@OmGoshStudios Год назад
@@modernrebel9175 Yeah
@bakedbeans5494
@bakedbeans5494 Год назад
@@modernrebel9175 Atheism is a failed concept.
@modernrebel9175
@modernrebel9175 Год назад
@@bakedbeans5494 Religion*
@KingNerdius
@KingNerdius Год назад
​@@bakedbeans5494 how
@WeirdoHere
@WeirdoHere Год назад
I remember asking my dad if I could watch a show with a couple lesbian/bisexual scenes in it and he said he would talk to my mom about it and he also said it should be fine as long as I knew I shouldn’t be lesbian/bisexual and it’s wrong in gods eyes. Him saying that hurt my feelings so bad bc I’ve already identified as pansexual I just hadn’t told my parents yet and I believe god loves us for who we are- sorry for the long comment, I kinda vented huh? Sorry- and I respect all beliefs as well- and in case your wondering the show name is owl house
@ballchopper3000
@ballchopper3000 Год назад
I’m sorry about that, some parents can be cruel and bring wrongly presented religion over their childs happiness. And It’s okay to vent of course! It’s a hurtful memory and similiar things have happened to me ever since I’ve been partially open to my parents as a lesbian, its good to write out what bothers you and it’s good that you did. It’s been a month but I hope you’re okay. You’re valid
@rainyykitten
@rainyykitten Год назад
Fellow queer kid here, I know how you feel. But things got better in my case, so hopefully they will for you too! You can come to me anytime if you need someone to talk to 💖💛💙
@bluebull399
@bluebull399 2 года назад
What's different between now than 30 years ago is we must accept that these people exist and not persecute them. I've watched gay shows before and enjoyed them because they are good shows. If a gay man wants to act out the flamboyant stereotypical gay character then that's his choice. The way I see it today is that straight people have accepted gay men, however there is still hostility towards lesbian women. I cringe when I see other straight men making lesbian jokes, they are just not funny. Most straight people think trans people are basically drag queens, probably because the only experience we have of them is seeing drag queens in gay clubs (yes, straight people go to gay clubs too). I can't comment on non binary / gender fluid, you hear so much about them but I've never actually met one. I think this group will be the hardest for people to accept because despite what the media say, they are extremely rare. It's not that we won't ever accept them, it's just that we don't understand them.
@Sexyfine3000
@Sexyfine3000 2 года назад
YESSS thank you I'm glad you as a straight man can see this too...gay men are so much more accepted and well represented in media than lesbians it's strange but i think it has something to do with people still holding some sort of entitlement over women's body.
@rinpaisys
@rinpaisys 2 года назад
Well hello there, I am agender which makes me non-binary. I am also aro/ace. Nice to meet you!
@Dakarai_Knight
@Dakarai_Knight 2 года назад
I feel like it's different kinds of non-acceptance. Plenty of straight homophobic men hate gay men but are "ok" with lesbians because they fetishize them and perceive them as less of a threat to their masculinity. I don't think either group has full acceptance or has it much better than the other.
@taxevader5386
@taxevader5386 2 года назад
@@Dakarai_Knight yeah it's annoying, they'll hate us gays but they don't mind lesbians cause there "smoking hot"
@Dakarai_Knight
@Dakarai_Knight 2 года назад
@@taxevader5386 exactly. Like where are gay men mostly accepted but lesbians not. A woman wearing a suit or more masculine clothing is way less controversial than a man doing the reverse. The highest group killed in America is trans people of color especially MTF which transphobes see as men and an attack on male masculinity. We are all oppressed. Idk where this person is coming from saying gay men are entirely accepted.
@waggsmith5889
@waggsmith5889 3 года назад
No Owl House references? I’m surprised
@lincdc12
@lincdc12 3 года назад
Owl House machine broke
@maddiepaints8670
@maddiepaints8670 2 года назад
Wath Luca its pretty 🏳️‍🌈
@introvertion6460
@introvertion6460 2 года назад
@@maddiepaints8670 it's not I mean it is but mostly people make it gay
@cnash3428
@cnash3428 2 года назад
@@introvertion6460 until you watch it
@jackbartson371
@jackbartson371 2 года назад
People say gay characters influence kids to be gay but don't think straight characters do rhetoric
@girthbrooks7645
@girthbrooks7645 2 года назад
the instinct to reproduce influences people to be hetero
@stellakisses
@stellakisses 2 года назад
It’s so sad that the people who can’t accept difference and change in the world are the people in charge
@ChaosWars
@ChaosWars 2 года назад
This is one reason why I absolutely love Steven Universe, I'm actually glad Rebecca was the first Animator to show an Lgbtq couple and have shows with LGBT characters sky rocket
@jocelynecupcake
@jocelynecupcake Год назад
She wasn't the first to show an LGBT couple, she was the first American I guess to do it?
@dazedandconfused5711
@dazedandconfused5711 Год назад
arthur?
@t-ro6176
@t-ro6176 Год назад
Stop projecting
@xrainings2664
@xrainings2664 2 года назад
Don’t forget about The Owl House! It features multiple queer relationships (including one with the main character!) and has one of the best non binary characters I’ve ever seen
@glamorouslynothere4785
@glamorouslynothere4785 2 года назад
Wait what non-binary character 💀🤚
@rochchan4145
@rochchan4145 2 года назад
@@glamorouslynothere4785 Raine Whispers
@Cieln0va
@Cieln0va 2 года назад
@@rochchan4145 AKA best bard
@kovacthesaggy4014
@kovacthesaggy4014 2 года назад
Raine kinda sucks.
@Cieln0va
@Cieln0va 2 года назад
@@kovacthesaggy4014 i disagree, but at least Raine even *exists* Most shows don't have non binary characters, so we take what we can get. Pair that with them being a bard and you have the perfect recipe for a fan favorite character.
@AM_201
@AM_201 2 года назад
if i had this kind've representation as a kid my path down understanding my sexuality would've been miles less miserable and scary.
@jazuqua
@jazuqua 2 года назад
I honestly have never seen two male main characters in an open gay relationship in a Western-animated show, like the farthest I've seen so far is a main character being in a relationship with a side-character or male side-characters being in a relationship. Like either I'm not up-to-date or that's still got a long way to go.
@ashleyjohnson9651
@ashleyjohnson9651 2 года назад
you should check out kipo and the age of wonderbeasts!!
@jazuqua
@jazuqua 2 года назад
I'm pretty sure that Troy isn't a main character, like while it is a good example and a good first step; it is an example of of a main character dating a side-character though
@dogsys
@dogsys 2 года назад
Superman’s son is bisexual so let’s see where that goes
@angelicamorales3842
@angelicamorales3842 3 года назад
I didn't know Rebecca Sugar was gonna be in this video when I opened it, my heart inmediately went 💜💜💜💖 Steven Universe is not only a good representation of love and kindness but also it's so beatiful.
@LSniumUwU
@LSniumUwU 3 года назад
Yeah luckily they wont have kids if they were real!
@roseyann1722
@roseyann1722 2 года назад
Growing up as a bi girl in a Christian household I never had anything to count on and I felt so alone. These characters really helped me find myself. I've always felt like a background character in my own life, but now I feel like I don't need anyone's permission.
@cherrybomb2706
@cherrybomb2706 2 года назад
@Joshua we dont care
@cherrybomb2706
@cherrybomb2706 2 года назад
@Joshua she don’t care
@lukamilosevic661
@lukamilosevic661 2 года назад
@- CottageWinnie - How is he rude?
@lukamilosevic661
@lukamilosevic661 2 года назад
@@shinysweety9822 Used it, still see nothing wrong with it In Orthodoxy, we believe that Jesus is the ultimate being and that in order to achieve heaven we must aspire to be like Him, as this gentleman's comment said. Mind you, I'm not religious at all, in fact I only go to church for my krsna slava.
@shinysweety9822
@shinysweety9822 2 года назад
@@lukamilosevic661 Just because you believe in that doesn’t mean you should force those believes onto other people
@thandolwethusigasa534
@thandolwethusigasa534 2 года назад
Garnet was my gay awakening😭😩🔥🫀🫀-I’m a gay teen btw❤️- Garnet was exactly what I needed to be comfortable with myself after I realised I was queer at age 9. I literally cannot thank Rebecca Sugar enough🥺❤️
@carterfaust5236
@carterfaust5236 Год назад
TF
@really194
@really194 2 года назад
I wonder how gen alpha is gonna change the world.. I hope more of them grown up to accept whoever they are and more open about themselves! Spread the love guys not hate 😌🌈
@girthbrooks7645
@girthbrooks7645 2 года назад
well, conservitives are having most of the babies, thank God.
@LostinTranslation479
@LostinTranslation479 2 года назад
That's why villains always felt so much cooler than the princesses.
@moereece855
@moereece855 2 года назад
So then "Straight people = uncool bcs they are not lgbt+ " Ok
@Zoyiekka
@Zoyiekka 2 года назад
@@moereece855 yea and what about it ?
@moereece855
@moereece855 2 года назад
@@Zoyiekka that's literally discrimination against straight people just because they're straight
@roronoa876
@roronoa876 2 года назад
She said they are “cooler”. She wasn’t erasing any coolness from straight people all together. And it is true that Disney hero’s are meant to be perfect and heteronormative and at times it makes them bland and a little boring. Like aurora for example,. Is there any defining trait to Aurora? She’s perfect and she’s beauty and that’s about it. Maleficient was a whole lot more interesting
@lexdraws1729
@lexdraws1729 2 года назад
@@moereece855 that’s not what real discrimination is, why do you want to be oppressed so bad lmao
@yeahsureray5747
@yeahsureray5747 3 года назад
Low-key kinda disappointed you didn't mention Korrasami more. While it is true that we wouldn't be where we are today if it wasn't for the groundbreaking work Rebecca Sugar did. Korrasami was literally the stepping stone that started it all and it's kind of annoying that they get overlooked when we talk about lgbtq rep in western children's media.
@cryptidnip
@cryptidnip 2 года назад
Korrasami was NOT good representation. Holding hands at the end of the series in the last 5 seconds is not good representation. I’m aware they’re openly together in the comics, but children watching the show (and like 90% of avatar fans) most likely don’t read those.
@15jewjew
@15jewjew 2 года назад
@@cryptidnip you missed the point. Korrasami allowed for better representation they literally covered so much in terms of LGBT representation that had stereotypes. The point is that when the whole country is against who you are you need visibility no matter what. Korra had there hands tied and could not do much else. Without the brave decision of Legend of Korras ending there probably would not be a Steven universe in the way we know today.
@cryptidnip
@cryptidnip 2 года назад
@@15jewjew speaking as a queer person, no. Nothing about that was “brave” or “allowed” any representation. Holding hands isn’t representation.
@sparklemittens8301
@sparklemittens8301 2 года назад
@@cryptidnip well it was in 2014, especially considering the restrictions from the network. I mean they almost didn't even make the show because the creators wanted a female protagonist. It was the representation they could get within the context of their particular time and it contributed to more explicit portrayals being made.
@cryptidnip
@cryptidnip 2 года назад
@@sparklemittens8301 again, holding hands is not representation in any way, shape or form.
@blimm8995
@blimm8995 2 года назад
my little sister is in the sixth grade and came out as bi recently. my girlfriend and i like to sit down and watch cartoons that have representation in them with her. we've watched the owl house, she-ra, steven universe, and all of adventure time, along with any other ones we can find. me and my girlfriend started watching the harley quinn show today as well. (not for kids but oh well) i wish i had more things like this growing up. when i was a kid, i had to headcanon characters so i could have someone to watch who was like me. im so so proud of what the community is achieving and i hope it changes things for the better.
@buttercupbakery9438
@buttercupbakery9438 2 года назад
:D
@monkeystudios1
@monkeystudios1 2 года назад
You are the worst sibling anyone could ever have.
@The.Viewer
@The.Viewer 2 года назад
@@monkeystudios1 No she isn't. Literally stay mad I guess. Lmao
@blimm8995
@blimm8995 2 года назад
@@monkeystudios1 thanks Abu Gaming
@RatatRatR
@RatatRatR 5 месяцев назад
That actually sounds like a good example of how saturating children's culture with this stuff leads to suggestible kids saying things about their identity that they don't even understand.
@lemonboy200
@lemonboy200 2 года назад
You know, I watch Kip and The Age of the Wonderbeasts and I just love that they let lgbtq+ into there and it just made my day
@Jarvalicious
@Jarvalicious 3 года назад
The removal of _Religion_ from government and media has played a massive role as well Edit: yes I am talking about _your_ one specific particular religion Edit 2: *FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT*
@kaiokenzone855
@kaiokenzone855 3 года назад
Lgbtq dising on religions
@cyberchicken3156
@cyberchicken3156 3 года назад
It really annoys me when people accuse religious people (especially Christians) for hating LGBTQ. The only religious people like that are a few american boomers. As many Christians hate LGBTQ as other people. (not that many)
3 года назад
@@cyberchicken3156 it's mainly christians who spew anti-lgbtqia+ rhetoric, publicly that is. and Christianity being one of the main religions practiced around the world, allot of lgbtq+'s families give them religious trauma. it's also important to remember its not personal, hope that helped you understand some things!
@vivosmartphone2280
@vivosmartphone2280 3 года назад
You guys want religion to return to goverment and media?
@jadenthiviyan1271
@jadenthiviyan1271 3 года назад
@ How about religions like Islam. Surprising how much the left supports Islam and hate Christianity when Islam despise homosexuality and would publicly execute homosexuals and all Christian's do is... just not support. Very curious. Oh... that's right. Because they wouldn't dare say anything against Islam because their afraid of getting executed. Wasn't Christians who made homosexual marriage legal. But, of course the left have to blame the religion that built their country because they can't blame any other.
@Omarmu
@Omarmu 2 года назад
Surprised that no one is talking about how Steven Universe was canceled from being aired on Cartoon Network Arabia half way through the show after being hard censored since it started airing there
@niga3
@niga3 2 года назад
Time to move to Arabia
@LSniumUwU
@LSniumUwU 2 года назад
Arabia is smart.
@bakugokatsukiytman7863
@bakugokatsukiytman7863 2 года назад
@@LSniumUwU no there not they have dumb minds I thought you were a furry
@bakugokatsukiytman7863
@bakugokatsukiytman7863 2 года назад
Change ur name
@metaknight859
@metaknight859 2 года назад
@@bakugokatsukiytman7863 dumb miinds are better than minds filled with nothing other than sex like yours.
@lolno6975
@lolno6975 Год назад
I mean, its good theres LGBTQ marraige now, but on the same episode as the villains attack? Really? You cant let the gay couple have even 5 minutes of actual happiness without gatecrashing it on the same level as Jesus arising from the dead on the 3rd day?
@MADLADYATDMV
@MADLADYATDMV Год назад
I'm not against gay people but I do not think children should be shown this at this age
@user-mo7cd9jd8v
@user-mo7cd9jd8v Год назад
Okay, why?
@kingsaracoon9594
@kingsaracoon9594 3 года назад
I don't normally comment but seeing a lot of dense people here I have to share my thoughts: Being gay or lgbtq isn't inherently sexual y'know... just like being straight isn't automatically sexual. Whenever you see a girl crushing on a boy do you go "oh no stop it you're shoving it in everyone's faces". Having crushes on people at a young age is normal and healthy to have. You get to learn about your different relationships with others; and it's not like that boy and girl are gonna automatically end up dating right? It's just normal to show kids that "it's ok to have interest in other people, and have feelings of love for them, someday when you're older you'll find that person to share that interest with". How come it all suddenly comes to a stop when queer kids come into the equation? There are such things as queer kids too, yknow. Why can't *they* be considered normal? Please reevaluate why you think this way and become humble enough to have the compassion to educate yourself. You can end up spitting the same rhetoric that homophobes and transphobes preach that send us backward. The reason lgbtq characters are important in children's animation is to show that is normal for these people to exist; most importantly, that it's normal for kids who ARE lgbtq the exist as they are. Kids learn about straight, crushes, straight relationships, straight marriages at a fairly young age... so why not queer ones? I promise, kids are more intelligent than you think. (Also this is coming from a person who's country their from is doesn't support same-sex relationships or gender non-conforming people; I know people like me need this more than you do)
@clemtoe
@clemtoe 3 года назад
So, what's happened here is that you've become confused. The language used in normalization is designed to do that. Allow me to break it down for you. "Homophobia" is a nonsense word. Correctly transliterated, it would mean "fear of the same". A "homophobe" would be someone who is frightful of people who are like themselves. Of course that's not what the word is supposed to mean. It's supposed to mean fear of people who are different, or something like that. And of course the accusation isn't of fear, but of "hate". "Heterosexual" is also a silly word because it's redundant. There is nothing denoted by it which isn't denoted in the root word "sex". "Sex" means sexual difference. So, union between male and female is the only sexual "orientation" which is describable as sexual. The only purpose for the word "Heterosexual" is to prefigure a false paradigm by which normal sexuality lies as a point on a gradient coequal with "homosexuality", a word for same-sex eroticism, which is in fact anti-sexual. But there isn't a gradient between these points. There is a dichotomy of 97% normal sexuality and 3% disordered erotic fixations. This normal condition is therefore attacked by the champions of abnormality with another nonsense word, "heteronormativity". "Heteronormativity" is the word cultural arsonists use to problematize normal sexuality. They posit that an injustice is evident in the way children may freely be exposed to images and messaging which normalizes normal sexuality: Things like mom sleeping in the same bed as dad and marriages and girls kissing boys and male-female dance couples and so forth. Why, they demand to know, is it not so for men kissing men or men performing drag or worse. It's not so confounding in reality. "Heterosexuality" is, quite simply, the method by which the human species reproduces. It is not a "kink" or a fetish or a deviation from health and normalcy as "homosexuality" is. One may as well ask why fisting isn't as socially privileged as respiration. With all that understood, perhaps it's clearer that, for people who socially identify themselves by their aberrant erotic fixations, reference to their secondary social identities as such are references to their aberrant erotic fixations.
@mgspatheticchannel1496
@mgspatheticchannel1496 3 года назад
So, if you are reading this, you came to the wrong part of the comments section. There are people who like to write essays around here. Why? Good question. The first guy could've simply said that heterosexual childhood crushes are considered fine, so why aren't gay crushes? However, he choose to use about 3 paragraphs. So unnecessary. I think he makes a good point, except for that I don't like the idea of LGBT so he must be wrong. The second guy took it way overkill. He wrote about 10 paragraphs. Just to simply say he disagrees and the first guy is wrong. However, I am not sure if that is what he said in the end since it was too long to read. These guys must be on computers, typing up thier college entry essays here. It doesn't matter, just prepare to see lots of "Too Long, Didn't Read" comments or "TLDR" comments. Or from the extra lazy, expect the comment "T" Because this was too long to read.
@dogezillathelegendary2695
@dogezillathelegendary2695 3 года назад
@@clemtoe word
@tonykhang1984
@tonykhang1984 3 года назад
finaly
@sankalp2520
@sankalp2520 3 года назад
@@clemtoe he might not be confused but you are certainly confusing him. lol. You can't be a good debater if you don't see things from the opponents viewpoint. Humans (or neologists or whatever) create new words to convey a meaning that cannot be extracted by already existing words. What you were doing in your whole essay was breaking down the terms/words to create new meanings out of them. And when you tried to do that you *confused* yourself even more. Now, here are the things which are most probably wrong in your reply: 1. Homophobia has been defined as "fear, hatred or discomfort with people who are gay". While it does seem like it is some sort of anxiety disorders like arachnophobia or acrophobia, it might not always be associated with it. Like I said, there is no point in arguing if its a non sense word or not. Its definition matters. Besides, there are plenty of other words in english which don't really mean what they seem to convey. 2. Hetersexual isn't redundant. Let me explain this by an example. Centuries ago, mathematicians used to think a number can be either rational (1.23, 0.99(bar)) or irrational (pi, e). Then after some people started giving meaning to numbers like sqrt(-1), mathematicians realised there is a whole set of new numbers whose inclusion can solve many problems. They called them "imaginary numbers". _Now that we have imaginary numbers, what would we classify rational+irrational numbers as?_ Inclusion of new numbers became the necessity to classify rational+irrational numbers as Real numbers! The same thing happened with the inclusion of term homosexual as classifying others as heterosexual. So I don't think its redundant. 3. Have you ever met a gay person irl? You frequently used the words like "anti-sexual", " disordered erotic fixations", "abnormality", "fetish", "deviation" as attributes of homosexuality. If you met any gay person did you find these attributes inside them? There are many examples of lgbt people who have contributed to the development of society as much as other straight people. Like Alan Turing who gave us the algorithms and computational strategies by his Turing Machine, most of which have been used to create today's computers and this digital world. Tell me how he could have done this if he was abnormal or deviated? Tim Cook present Ceo of Apple inc. since 2011. Tell me how he has been running the company for so long if he's been subject to disordered erotic fixations and fetishes? Certainly you are wrong somewhere my dear. Sally Ride an Astronaut and a physicist, who also did researches on nonlinear optics and thomson scattering. Tell me how she was able to do all of this just like any other straight person, if according to you, her mind was polluted by sexually stuffs and deviations? Freddie Mercury, of course, I don't need to tell you who he was. How could such a good person write such beautiful songs if according to you, he is abnormal? What I have come to conclusion is that you are biased, blinded and inexperienced. Biased in the way that you never have took time to think from any single gay's perspective. Inexperienced in the sense that you never actually have any real life experience with lgbt person, blinded by the adult websites you spend time scrolling through to get orgasm, and concluding that all gays are like those pornstars. sry if I said anything wrong. thx for reading. :)
@alttoomeansstop1151
@alttoomeansstop1151 3 года назад
Steven's universe's writer looks exactly like I imagined.
@xeno4693
@xeno4693 3 года назад
Is that supposed to be an insult?
@lucaskp16
@lucaskp16 3 года назад
@@xeno4693 not really a surprise that with how her characters look she wouldn't really care about maintain personal appearance. then again I love both stevens universe and adventure time. hope she makes many more cartoons in the future.
@shanechannel7066
@shanechannel7066 3 года назад
She looks like your typical 2020 feminist. The only thing missing is blueberry hair coloring and weekly updates on the length of her armpit hairs
@alttoomeansstop1151
@alttoomeansstop1151 3 года назад
@@xeno4693 maybe
@porkypy
@porkypy 3 года назад
@@shanechannel7066 is that supposed to be an insult?
@briskthesodawoo1355
@briskthesodawoo1355 2 года назад
I was expecting for The Owl House to be part of this, Aside from SU, The Owl House has a nice story that made the protagonist befriend and care for someone who was once her enemy!
@alexislennon4973
@alexislennon4973 Год назад
I really hope we get a openly Aroace character at some point It's a tough thing being Aroace in a world that literally revolves around romance and love I think it would be really neat and helpful for those Aroace kids finding themselves 🙂 I mean I guess we have Peridot so that is good
@guestc142
@guestc142 Год назад
Those people only exist in discord and twitter.
@alexislennon4973
@alexislennon4973 Год назад
@@guestc142 Well The people on Discord and Twitter exist and talk about it online 😅 I am here and I talk about it It's a real thing believe it or not I would know Because I am one of those people 😅
@Bubblysyrup
@Bubblysyrup Год назад
Perhabs peridot?
@christie6515
@christie6515 2 года назад
IT'S ABOUT TIME WE ACKNOWLEDGE KIPO AND THE AGE OF WONDERBEASTS
@PrincessBlack04
@PrincessBlack04 2 года назад
I KNOW RIGHT!? So hard to find any fanart of it too😭😭
@gwynzynoodles2553
@gwynzynoodles2553 2 года назад
SO TRUE
@garnett2350
@garnett2350 2 года назад
We should have more protagonist LGBT characters, LGBT characters with a happy ending, not the ones who are a joke, villain, or with a sad ending
@xd._.28234
@xd._.28234 2 года назад
Also, even the kid from my pfp. Ercole, a 17 yo villain teen, from Luca movie(pixar,aka Disney,since owns it) (Suspiciously) queercoded🌈 because his exaggerated effeminacy (not that explícit,since happens fast,his movements are so so fast when he talks or does stuff, to not be noticed at first, ig, but if you rewatch it or slow down the scenes a little bit when he appears,you can notice easily. You can actually realize it) I mean,u just need to stare at his hands,legs positions or face movements,and...dang😂(like 80% of the movie is like that,less when...well,the end of the movie,but...heh) Also,the scenes seem done on purpose to make you hate the character at 1st min on screen, or they make the scenes turn up to the main characters fastly to you as watcher not focus on the villain that much but the main characters (i had to rewatch the villain's scenes compilation to notice it properly, since in the movie, idk how, they made me get distracted and not notice the kid's body expressing) And i was like...but...how? This kid is even gayer than my ACTUALLY FEM GAY FRIENDS FROM HIGHSCHOOL! ._. And... yeah, the villain again 💀 Maybe we wait 10 yrs and they just say the kid is gay or whatever, i mean they've done this stuff so many times, so... LMFAO Also with how to train your dragon(not disney, it's dreamworks) The viking village's lumberjack is gay, confirmed in like 2016...? Idk but yrs later after 2nd movie it came out (2014) since ppl were sus and asking creators ab his behaviors (queercoded) The creators said he has been gay since 1st movie appearance or even the serie they did(between movie 1 and 2,also it kept going after movie 2) But confirmed it like 7 yrs later lol
@garnett2350
@garnett2350 2 года назад
@@xd._.28234 exactly
@fo3858
@fo3858 2 года назад
The character in full metal, your pfp is kinda nb
@garnett2350
@garnett2350 2 года назад
@@fo3858 Envy is genderless, so I think it might be non binary
@mrmikeyrobin
@mrmikeyrobin 2 года назад
@@garnett2350 creep
@agustinconde330
@agustinconde330 Год назад
Rebecca made a HUGE impact on this topic, which turned the table upside down for kids shows. first she made a beautiful story, that many kids (and adults) fell in love with and then all of a sudden she inserted so much queer in so little time that made many of the homophobic fans change their point of view. and for that i'm sure that i speak for all the lgbtq+ community when i say thank you, you are one of our voices and i'm glad for that.
@tam6116
@tam6116 2 года назад
i have so much respect for Rebecca sugar. she fought for some much representation and she honestly makes me so happy
@McFaddenWasRight
@McFaddenWasRight Год назад
You can't have respect for a fictional character. They aren't real.
@tam6116
@tam6116 Год назад
@@McFaddenWasRight lmao rebecca sugar isn’t a fictional character she’s the creator of Steven universe
@sexy0rthrus
@sexy0rthrus 3 года назад
Animation network companies are extremely disconnected from their audiences these days. So when new animators join, they fail to realize that the ideas and concepts and identities they bring to the table, were at one point inspired by them, that the artists too were once the audience. That their opinions on their own content is just as much as our own opinions are to us. They should be listening more than telling, and allow the artists to express themselves free of limitations. It is unfair to hold rightful success from someone because they want to expand outside of the common ideals that are ' thought ' to be successful. Time and time again I see such amazing stories cut short because the companies supporting them didn't believe in them, and ends a good thing far too soon. No story should be left unfinished. ( Symbiotic Titan for example. Cartoon Network can bite the big one for that. )
@lucaskp16
@lucaskp16 3 года назад
Is a business, they hire creators and animators to make money not to win prizes. you may think making the best possible show at any cost will always pay back in the end but that is not always the case. also most shows make most of the money from merchandise. so some shows were making or selling merch for it is harder already puts it in the sight.
@Sexyfine3000
@Sexyfine3000 2 года назад
DUDE yes symbiotic titan was such an og show!!!
@sexy0rthrus
@sexy0rthrus 2 года назад
@@Sexyfine3000 * Cough * Generator Rex * Cough *
@v4mp_rot
@v4mp_rot 3 года назад
These comments did not pass the vibe check
@cjtm5298
@cjtm5298 3 года назад
Most def
@BrokenXDI
@BrokenXDI Год назад
I remember seeing the wedding in steven universe, i was confused with my sexuality and barely even knew what LGBTQIA+ was, yet something in that scene made me fearful of my family and yet feel so powered, i didn't know why i felt like i needed to hide that i liked it Then the loud house and multiple others cartoons later... I'm now figuring things out, I'm genderfluid and omnisexual, it took awhile to figure myself out but animation always helped me, it wasn't inappropriate or anything, it was brought in a normal light and helped me more then anything.
@giulianamoore123moore3
@giulianamoore123moore3 Год назад
Even though this was an year ago, peppa pig got lesbian parents now, it’s clear because there child wrote a picture of them and it was the CUTEST thing EVER
@Bubblysyrup
@Bubblysyrup Год назад
I hope they make part 2, they also forgot owl house lol.
@giulianamoore123moore3
@giulianamoore123moore3 Год назад
@@Bubblysyrup yea
@VibhavSaraf
@VibhavSaraf 2 года назад
Y'all should title this American cartoons. Anime has been putting stand outs for LGBTQIA+ representation for years now
@_Error__
@_Error__ 2 года назад
There is even a genre specifically for LGBTQ+ representation too. Yaoi being one of them.
@josephwodarczyk977
@josephwodarczyk977 2 года назад
G̶a̶m̶e̶r̶s̶ Weebs rise up!
@konanxhidan3202
@konanxhidan3202 2 года назад
@@_Error__ Yaoi is the worst, most of those ships were abusive, toxic, pedophile or incest. Yuri (girlsxgirls relationship), was very underrated back then but most of those lesbian pairings were more healthy and realistic and were not extremely sexualized like Yaoi pairings.
@whathell6t
@whathell6t 2 года назад
@@josephwodarczyk977 What about the Tokusatsu weebs?
@annee.p9885
@annee.p9885 2 года назад
@@konanxhidan3202 yeah yaoi can get pretty toxic, which is why I prefer shounen ai, since the relationships depicted are way more wholesome than yaoi
@imfrfr
@imfrfr 2 года назад
Everyone Deserves a good character and representation
@videoms1271
@videoms1271 Год назад
What about homomisians?
@GMAV3RICK
@GMAV3RICK Год назад
What about child predators? 🤔
@LibShitted
@LibShitted Год назад
What about straights?
@McFaddenWasRight
@McFaddenWasRight Год назад
But it is no one's obligation to create that so called representation. It isn't anyone's obligation to do anything in the world of entertainment.
@imfrfr
@imfrfr Год назад
@@GMAV3RICK a character can be anybody, and any character that is represented truthfully fully, and unapologetically. There is good bad and the mfn middle, but we won’t understand different walks if people can’t even create good characters.
@Alanshee-Valera
@Alanshee-Valera 2 года назад
I am apart of the Lego Ninjago Fandom, Ninjago was released a year after Adventure Time so in that on the fence era and yet we have one character that is definitely LGBTQ coded. In fact it's what we call Fanon that this character is Gay and season 13 which released in 2020 caused quite a riot because it was hinted that the character might be put with a female... Nobody was having it fortunately that wasn't the case and everyone calmed down. After 10 years on air the Creator Tommy Andreasan has stated recently Dogmas need to change so we are thinking Legos gonna soon finally going to join in and put representation in one of their most popular lines.
@gwynzynoodles2553
@gwynzynoodles2553 2 года назад
YESYESYESYESYES-
@megajaredx9679
@megajaredx9679 2 года назад
I have mixed feelings about that
@zilasgregersen2956
@zilasgregersen2956 2 года назад
The importance of this is deeply underrated. Amazing work with this video.
@elios-0001
@elios-0001 3 года назад
8:20 these scenes are so beautiful. I cant wait until they're not just LGBTQ women, its gonna be so much harder to tear down the gay male walls of stereotypes, maybe even harder for trans people.
@dar2406
@dar2406 3 года назад
YESS
@LSniumUwU
@LSniumUwU 3 года назад
Ah i see, you make everything sexual in life, nasty.
@ailinzhou4841
@ailinzhou4841 2 года назад
@@LSniumUwU you know, for being a blatant furry you'd think that you'd be more accepting of marginalized groups but unfortunately it is not the case.
@elios-0001
@elios-0001 2 года назад
@@LSniumUwU i dont understand what you mean by "sexual" its a beautiful scene with amazing cinematography, and its two people dancing through a forest expressing their love, it has nothing to do with sex, or anything sexual. And even if you say it has anything to do with sex, why was the straight version allowed on children tv? Or were you brainwashed to think that anyone remotely LGBTQIAP+ is just nasty and only cares about sex? Please, I truly belive that you can also learn to understand, and I know youre a good person despite the words you say in these comments.
@LSniumUwU
@LSniumUwU 2 года назад
@Elios Look, im fine with only LGB. Thats it remove the rest, no TQIAZLMNOP+ X pro max You dont need to question your gender, you have a rod or a hole, when youre born.
@lockedwes1334
@lockedwes1334 3 года назад
Love how crystals don’t have genders 🥱
@popinmo
@popinmo 3 года назад
Well they don't technically have them in reality they do like how garrnet ,pearl and amythiest and saphire while ruby to me honestly seems to be shown or is more male
@EdricCoconut
@EdricCoconut 3 года назад
Pronouns =/= Gender, the gems go by female pronouns, but are non-binary
@popinmo
@popinmo 3 года назад
@@EdricCoconut pronouns imply gender
@he96765
@he96765 3 года назад
@@EdricCoconut always*
@EdricCoconut
@EdricCoconut 3 года назад
@@he96765 in that case, people should refer to groups by each person, or say shes' hes' or theys' if the whole group is the same gender. Because they is a pronoun, and it "always" implys gender, so using they/them on that context is just wrong
@pjenk201
@pjenk201 2 года назад
I literally cry everytime I hear a song from Steven Universe It was my most favorite show ever since elementary cause it just made me feel so represented so much and I just love everything about Steven universe! the songs are just so attached to me, Its also one of the things that got me into art... I miss Steven universe so much.
@bbgirl373
@bbgirl373 2 года назад
I feel like him was one of the best gay villian's, the creator himself stated him was his favorite character or villain I don't remember
@flapflapflapflap
@flapflapflapflap 3 года назад
Idk but its a real Baka Mitai moment for Kipo when she found out her crush is gay
@Wildkratticusfever
@Wildkratticusfever 3 года назад
I love that it cut to Voltron when it was said to not have done justice xD they're not wrong xD
@maeannengo4908
@maeannengo4908 2 года назад
Is it more accurate to say that Gems are Genderless than Non-Binary?
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