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HOW RDJ as Doctor Doom Will Work in the MCU 

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Marvel fans, it's been a few days since RDJ was announced to return to the MCU as Doctor Doom, and now we must start asking the hard questions. In this video, I'm going to explain 3 ways this could work based on Marvel Comics and what has been going on in the Multiverse Saga in movies like Spider-Man No Way Home and Deadpool and Wolverine.
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@spartancat343
@spartancat343 Месяц назад
I think the scenario I would like the best is Doom taking over the body of Tony Stark. It has a lot of room for fun and movie magic, while still being actual Victor and not just an evil iron man
@AlessioAlessi
@AlessioAlessi Месяц назад
Well... Tony Stark in the MCU has done most of the things that Dr Doom has done in the comics (i.e. wearing an "armor", create an army of robots, invent "time travels") so it would be straightforward to simply say "hey, this is an evil variant of Tony Stark". And it can easily work: let Howard Stark, his wife and his infant Tony fly over Europe on an airplane and let that airplane crashland in an isolated town of East Europe and Tony be the only survivor, be adopted by a Romani family and grow up in Latveria with the new name "Victor Von Doom". There you have your origin story that still sticks with the comics! 😀
@AlessioAlessi
@AlessioAlessi Месяц назад
Plus, they can definitely do what they did in the "Doomsday" storyline from the Ultimate universe (not a case they might have chosen that title for the movie): in that storyline, the Ultimate universe is menaced by the Maker (that is indeed some kind of Ultimate version of Dr Doom) but then it is revealed that the Maker is no other than a "scarred" Reed Richards. Well, Marvel can do pretty much the same thing, replacing the Maker with Dr Doom indeed and making him a scarred version of Tony Stark (maybe from another universe and called Victor Von Doom).
@shadowkiller6637
@shadowkiller6637 Месяц назад
Imagine them being like: Tony, what are you doing this? Doom : was that the name of this lifeless husk? Well pity he doesn’t exist anymore because you are under the mercy of Victor von doom
@bdrew1111
@bdrew1111 Месяц назад
That is dope
@michaelhanley5808
@michaelhanley5808 Месяц назад
Don't forget three different actors playing Spider-Man in the same movie and also Josh Brolin playing cable and Thanos
@MrKilljay
@MrKilljay Месяц назад
All from different franchises. Not the same as hiring an actor from the SAME FRANCHISE to play another character in the SAME FRANCHISE.
@shamyarhames7002
@shamyarhames7002 Месяц назад
@@MrKilljayokay who cares RDJ is a phenomenal actor I have faith in him and so do his co-stars say.
@mittenil2972
@mittenil2972 Месяц назад
​@@MrKilljaylol bro you're just making up arbitrary rules now
@Paul-se4wc
@Paul-se4wc Месяц назад
Henry cavil as wolverine don't forget plus ed Norton hulk ..... I'm not going to shit on this yet because rdj as a actor has range . He was in natural born killers as the news anchor who interviewed in the prison .
@destinjeanes5166
@destinjeanes5166 Месяц назад
Still not it
@chrisneely3069
@chrisneely3069 Месяц назад
I think he’ll always be victor. Not a Tony variant
@stephenflanagan1177
@stephenflanagan1177 Месяц назад
Yooooo what if Tony has been a Victor variant this whole time!?!?!?
@dzl7822
@dzl7822 Месяц назад
@@stephenflanagan1177that’s what I’m thinking they should do
@bdrew1111
@bdrew1111 Месяц назад
​@@stephenflanagan1177 wooooooow, you just blew my mind literally
@JeffNighswander
@JeffNighswander Месяц назад
@@stephenflanagan1177 They're using a What If storyline in which Tony was Doom's roommate instead of Reed and he put his mind in Tony's body. My theory is that at the end of Doomsday Tony will get his body back and RDJ will be Ironman again.
@alltheworldsastage.
@alltheworldsastage. Месяц назад
It is a Dr Doom variant stole tony identity it's in the comics
@bradytaylor2749
@bradytaylor2749 Месяц назад
Hyped for the first time since Endgame!
@anamikapramanik1910
@anamikapramanik1910 Месяц назад
SAME
@toshtao1
@toshtao1 Месяц назад
No Way Home?
@joebond545
@joebond545 Месяц назад
​@@toshtao1 loki and wandavision too, at the time they were hype as F
@user-ji2vk5bk6n
@user-ji2vk5bk6n Месяц назад
@ the mirror and the signal of sound reflection, Stream paramore's the new's for the camera signal of projection ut section in target get out of my projection of image throwing a frequency into my body get out of me blowing me kisses through my own projection of image you have no right to be margin into my heart rate Entertainment through the projection of chemical signal space had no right to make neural ink Gert out of my body you had no right to sell your soul to be within my portals get out of my heart echo and get out of my body trying to move me, the projection of signal is just like the camera signals at the check You had no right tot forge my refraction of space by being within my portals already you had no right tot throw a frequency into my projection and kill my space of dream, Get out of my body trying to breath for me get out of my body holding me asleep by each merging into my heart You had no right to force a surgery on my space of mind after merging into my space of projection, get out of my body matching up heart pressures, get out of my body holding me asleep while you fuck and drown my family, you had no right tot kill my space of dream reflection Walk up to a mirror place your hand infront of it and look from an angle you had no right tot throw a frequency into my projection of heart At target they have the same image display going as the space of the mirror walk up to it and look from An angle you should see your reflection break apart within it you are just a frequency and target is talking your images of chemical by projection of space, get out of my camera signals image of heart merging into me you frauds you had no right tot sell you soul to drain me at the right time get out of body matching up heart rates and heart pressure you had no right tot kill me in reality for my heart Stream paramore's running out of time you have no right to be merging into my heart rate to try and snap me into another mind you had no right tot kill me in reality get out of my body merging into my image pf chemical projection god is not real and they are just spatial beings you had no fucking right get out of my body and my image touching my chin and ankles through my swapped frequency get out of my body trying to breath for me you have no right tot be trying to move my body like this get out of my frequency get out of my body trying to blink for me frauds.
@jeraldrobinson6816
@jeraldrobinson6816 Месяц назад
​@@joebond545 they were awesome but when the excitement is spread over months or years it's not going to be as memorable.
@Stagefire420
@Stagefire420 Месяц назад
Mr. Stark I don't feel so good
@KtownMisfit1975
@KtownMisfit1975 Месяц назад
Do people not understand that having RDJ being Doom is a very Marvel, comic book thing to do. It's going to be amazing.
@jfinal2434
@jfinal2434 Месяц назад
I can see him being a victor von doom that arrives with the f4 but loses them once he arrives in our universe. He learns of Tony stark and learns he looks just like him. Manipulates our heroes into thinking he is him. Gains access to Starks technology then it goes from there. It’ll kinda work in a way like in invincible when the audience knows that Omni man is not a hero but the characters in the movie have to discover it. They just need to do it right. It’ll probably be the F4 that’ll raise suspicion as they know what Doom is like.
@coooldontcare9993
@coooldontcare9993 Месяц назад
No
@ReyseanPryor
@ReyseanPryor Месяц назад
This is a dope concept TBH 😎
@ReyseanPryor
@ReyseanPryor Месяц назад
​@@coooldontcare9993 sí
@SJMcFly
@SJMcFly Месяц назад
With that Demon in the Armor storyline they could make an interesting Armor Wars movie. Have Doom stealing Stark Tech and Rhodey dies trying to stop him.
@jangokenobi
@jangokenobi Месяц назад
hypothetically if after Tony snapped in endgame he got so much scaring on his face and body damage he couldn't live with himself being so weak or show his new face to his daughter so he runs and hides in latveria to start a new life and through his pain physically and mentally he unleashes his anger determined to erase all things Tony Stark so he can finally in his corrupted mind create "peace in our time" which leads to the eventual rise of the doctor doom we are more familiar with. but note that im not saying this will happen in the movies all this just a creative fan fiction.
@owenreece3554
@owenreece3554 Месяц назад
I was thinking this right when I walked out of a movie theatre after watching Endgame. I also thought that the contact with the Stones expands his mind to understand magic. Victor Von Doom will be the name that he creates, like Rabum Alal in comics Secret Wars. To create almost a religious masked figure. We will probably think that this is just Victor played by RDJ, or a variant who calls himself Victor. But the truth in the end with shatter everyone - this is our 616 Iron Man!
@christianporter3638
@christianporter3638 Месяц назад
Iron Man had a perfect send-off. Doom will too. I'm guessing he will be recast when Doom creates with Loki the new sacred time-line with FF4, Xmen, New/Young Avengers etc
@jbsargent1396
@jbsargent1396 Месяц назад
I love the decision, I think it’s less about desperation and more about the amazing and crazy stories they can come up with having RDJ as Doctor Doom.
@MatD1979
@MatD1979 Месяц назад
I hope RDJ role has nothing to do with Iron Man. Only Victor Von Doom
@optumisprime900
@optumisprime900 Месяц назад
Variety and the russo brothers already confirmed its victor. So idk why everyone is running with this theory.
@SebMan121
@SebMan121 Месяц назад
​@@optumisprime900True "We need the greatest actor to play Victor Von Doom" -Joe Russo
@franklopez4028
@franklopez4028 Месяц назад
He’s going to kill a variant Iron man.
@juanseortiz1271
@juanseortiz1271 Месяц назад
​@@optumisprime900They're lying that's too obvious. Like when they lied saying that avengers 4 won't be call Endgame. Or when they said that time travels won't happened in endgame as well. He's tony stark. And if you have a problem with that just let me tell you that you haven't understood anything in this multiverse saga.
@juanseortiz1271
@juanseortiz1271 Месяц назад
It's tony stark and that's not bad it's actually really good. I'll remind you that this tony stark has no anything to do with our tony stark just has the same face. But they are not the same
@patrickstraw8217
@patrickstraw8217 Месяц назад
What if Doom is just dreamwalking in the body of Stark like Wanda and strange did in MoM
@Iron_Hawk_12
@Iron_Hawk_12 Месяц назад
Ooo.... Great theory! After all, Dr Doom is a mix of magic and tech. They could use that in a way where the real physical DD is the actor that will be him after Secret Wars. He's just using Tony's body until he's ready to make his debut (next saga) as our next big bad.
@andrewarbogast1
@andrewarbogast1 Месяц назад
I think they'll go with the body swap explanation. I think Doom shows up and everyone is shocked when he looks like Tony. Doom explains that as his universe was being destroyed, him and Tony were fighting and Doom was fatally wounded. He then explains how he took over Tony's body and was able to leave that timeline.
@brimck70
@brimck70 Месяц назад
RDJ as the actual Victor von Doom with a lot of prosthetic makeup can be very similar to Colin Farrell as The Penguin.
@blackshard641
@blackshard641 Месяц назад
Literally the only way I can see this working. You make him unrecognizable.
@reuben8648
@reuben8648 14 дней назад
@@blackshard641 Agreed
@iriehentz
@iriehentz Месяц назад
I've got it! The best option is number 3. They'll do a body swap and yes, it may be weird for the audience, but check this out; Imagine seeing Cillian Murphy portray Tony! Imagine him trying to convince people (in a new universe, mind you) that he is Tony Stark trapped in the body of a villain. This way, we will still get Cillian Murphy. We will still get Doom's full back story (bc eventually every villain monologues). And we will still get the interaction between Tony's face and the people who know it. Boom!
@MouseSki007
@MouseSki007 Месяц назад
I think this is a brilliant move on the part of Marvel. However, only if it's done perfectly. He's also not destroying the scene with Tony Stark and the snap.
@craigd7333
@craigd7333 Месяц назад
You’re missing the simplest option. RDJ is Victor Von Doom from another universe, he just looks exactly like Tony Stark. That way you don’t leave any “flavor on the table” and we still get pure Victor Von Doom. See, not that complicated.
@spanishfalcon
@spanishfalcon Месяц назад
Why do you pay $80 million for RDJ in instead of just paying less than half to get another just as qualified actor to be Victor
@craigd7333
@craigd7333 Месяц назад
@@spanishfalcon Two reasons. Because Doom having Tony’s face is needed for the story the Russo’s and McFeely want to tell. Also because of the hype RDJ returning generates. We’re talking about it aren’t we(?)
@jeffcowell3330
@jeffcowell3330 Месяц назад
Universe that Winter Soldier takes the baby out of car after killing Statk parents
@droberts573
@droberts573 Месяц назад
I think they planned it from the beginning. Look at Tony's helmet in End Game when he's on the ship with Nebula. Kinda looks like a doom mask
@davidjones8043
@davidjones8043 Месяц назад
Well this tracks because RDJ said that he didn’t feel like Iron Man was really using his acting skills, so he gets to come back to the MCU with a new challenge. It makes total sense
@dustinbridges6831
@dustinbridges6831 Месяц назад
I hate it. Im glad others like it but it ruins it for me.
@deletdelet6532
@deletdelet6532 Месяц назад
@@dustinbridges6831 Yea same. Of all the people they could have gotten to play an important character, they chose an actor that was already their most important character. Pretty obvious marketing tactic and not even a good one imo, just makes things feel convoluted. If he wanted a new villain role that requires acting they should have just reintroduced him as Superior Ironman
@dustinbridges6831
@dustinbridges6831 Месяц назад
@@deletdelet6532 I honestly thought that Dr. doom was going to be the main bad all along. I thought he would defeat king in King dynasty back when that was still a movie for the avengers and then in secret wars, he would have a team of bad guys that the avengers would beat just to have to face a bad team of the original avengers. I thought at some point Loki would find a way to pull the original avengers in the third act and to help the new team win. What I didn’t expect is for them to take the actor who essentially made the MCU famous and say he’s a completely different bad guy that has nothing to do with the character he played before. Even if it’s a variant, then that means they’re not doing Dr doom right. I was also excited to see the new X-Men team with younger vibrant actors and it looks like I’m not gonna get that either. Someone will have to explain to me what the point of buying fox was if they’re not gonna ever have the original avengers with, an X-Men team that we all know
@emt3119
@emt3119 Месяц назад
It just all seems so quick! I don’t mind RDJ being Doom but we still haven’t seen Strange again or Shang Chi or the scarlet witch. Wouldn’t their projects connect to phase 6 as well? I just hope they can keep the MCU Connected as it once was. I feel there should also be a scene where Doom obliterates the council of Kangs to show that they never were the main big bad. Ignoring that post credit scene of Ant Man just doesn’t work for me.
@erenwajeur9089
@erenwajeur9089 Месяц назад
when we learned rdj demanded double chris evans for civil war, we should have known. i really do not like rdj. proper nasty piece of work
@JosheVelox
@JosheVelox Месяц назад
Another thing to consider, Tony Stark from Earth 838 could be totally pissed off because of the death of the Illuminati, blames the Avengers and goes on a multiversal rampage trying to find the Avengers and runs into Dr. Doom and becomes him...?
@nastytechniquez9685
@nastytechniquez9685 Месяц назад
I love RDJ and I’ll do my best to keep my hopes up for him as Doom. This is where RDJ himself will be the one to prove to us he can kill it in acting. I’ve loved his work since seeing him as Wayne Gayle in Natural Born Killers
@Redsnowman04
@Redsnowman04 Месяц назад
One of the biggest things I loved about age of ultron is that they had their own little rebellious trio with Wanda, quick silver and ultron. This time, it’ll probably be Tony and Wanda in a duo team up. I love it. First ultron, now Doom. I see some connections.
@regirantanen
@regirantanen Месяц назад
In ENDGAME when Tony meets his father in the past, he asked Howard when his child is due. When Howard mentioned the approximate due date, Tony looks a little confused. What if, Howard's baby dies and the Starks, to keep up appearances, adopt ( under the table) a newborn from Latveria who is in fact Victor Von Doom. Somehow Tony learns of his parents deceit, and feeling betrayed, denounces being a Stark and takes back his real name and becomes the opposite of EVERYTHING his father stood for. The hatred for his father ( who may of done the swap without his wife even knowing) would be the spark that would eventually light the fire of DOOM. Seems about as logical/creative solution as any.
@jimkettner8363
@jimkettner8363 Месяц назад
Papering over Hank Pym is one thing…DOOM is another…
@kaijukez
@kaijukez 8 дней назад
I think they should take inspiration from phantom of the opera. Make Dr Doom a torn villain similar to the phantom. A variant of iron man but instead iron man accidentally snaps away some of his closest avengers that failed him in saving a character like say “spider man, spiderman died and he has to live with it” so spiderman being the anchor being changes all of iron man’s future path and iron man can have prosthetic from being fried by the infinity gauntlet. he then goes on a revenge arc and becomes dr doom after meeting up with scarlet witch as a different unrecognizable person. but towards the end of secret wars he reveals his identity and becomes more like a loki type character
@ukhouseRJ
@ukhouseRJ Месяц назад
You just nailed it. He will play dr doom but when all the multiverse stuff happens will fight ironman vs dr doom.. at the end
@KeezMuzik
@KeezMuzik Месяц назад
I got bets on, Tom's Spider Man sees the villain Dr. Doom somewhere in the final act. Doom takes the mask off and reveals it's Tony's face, that confuses the crap out of Spider Man, even activates his spider sense on 1000 then Doom decks him a suplex clear into the void to wait till Secret Wars and we get a to be continued kinda ending before the post credit scene.
@jorgej.cruzhernandez9247
@jorgej.cruzhernandez9247 Месяц назад
Demon in the armour + Infamous Ironman = MCU's adaptation with RDJ playing a variant of Victor Von Doom that looks like Tony Stark.
@VVM2024
@VVM2024 Месяц назад
What I'd want to see personally (and i don't know much about comics or the character of Doom, only a marvel movie fan) Pedro Pascal's Reed in the F4 movie next year, well he and a Tony Stark variant from that F4 movie universe were buddies, eventually having Stark Industries finance the F4's mission but with time it's revealed that this Tony Stark is much different from 616, he starts showing manipulative tendencies, he starts looking for more and more ways to improve his tech to the point where he becomes insane... he gains a lot of power but he loses everything and hides behind an iron mask, creating a new identity for himself and now looking for ways to have revenge on other timelines. That's what I'm picturing. And as for the potential conflicts with Tom Holland Spidey seeing him. I'd LOVE to have a scene where maybe Spider-Man has the chance to kill Doom but seeing how it's Stark he gets weak and doesn't have the strength to kill someone with the face of his mentor. Maybe that moment of weakness from Spider-Man is what makes the Avengers lose in Doomsday... And when Spider-Man gets the symbiote in the next movie, in SECRET WARS like the comics debut of the suit, the symbiote takes over and he's MUUUCH more aggressive.
@cosmictruthtortoise
@cosmictruthtortoise Месяц назад
No chance he's a variant. They just familiarized the audience with concept of variants with Chris Evans as Johnny Storm. RDJ is literally the only person that can hold the weight of Doom THIS late in the game.
@tquenched3210
@tquenched3210 Месяц назад
He always was and always be Johnny storm
@AlessioAlessi
@AlessioAlessi Месяц назад
No, he will be a variant 🤣! Accept it!
@Capinguns
@Capinguns Месяц назад
They said on stage he was going to be Victor Von Doom, and that's who he should be. Making him evil Iron Man would do what people are complaining about and ruin the ark our Tony had, because even if you make him the most evil version of Iron Man, people will say "well they brought back RDJ Tony but made him bad because the MCU cant exist with out him and Iron Man😠" He needs to be Victor Von Doom so RDJ can be sewn as his own entity away from Iron Man, and that is simultaneously the only way to give us the best version of Doom. Not bringing the real Victor to the screen would be an injustice to both characters.
@JuanEnriqueFloresJr
@JuanEnriqueFloresJr Месяц назад
Agreed. I sincerely hope that people are just overthinking and that RDJ is literally just playing Victor Von Doom. They announced that he was and I hope they keep it that way.
@andreoliveira191
@andreoliveira191 Месяц назад
Tony in the comics was adopted by Howard and Maria, and they could bring that to the movies. In the MCU, perhaps he is the son of Werner and Cynthia Doom (Dr Doom's parents in the comics) Maybe they died when he was a baby and Doctor Doom comes from a universe where his parents didn't die when he was a baby and was never adopted by the Starks. And he grew up as Viktor von Doom and became Doctor Doom just like in the comics
@CircusOfFive
@CircusOfFive Месяц назад
this move by marvel with RDJ and the Russo's and McFeely is a total Avengers move. After your fail, you go in big, you go in hard, and you think outside all the boxes. Time travel! That's never gone be good -- and then me an everyone in the theatre jumped not just out of our chairs, but out of our minds when Cap summoned Mjolnir!!! Wait for Doom!
@PapiFuegito
@PapiFuegito Месяц назад
I think the best way to go about it with Dr doom and Peter Parker is have Dr Doom know that Peter Parker’s mentor Tony stark looks like him in that universe. So he uses that to his advantage and gets Peter Parker by himself and makes him think that he’s Tony stark and manipulates him into helping him with his plan. Then later Peter finds out it’s not Tony stark and it’s just a crazy F***ing moment.
@PapiFuegito
@PapiFuegito Месяц назад
The avengers could also be trying to tell Peter he’s not Tony and they try to fight him and Peter is defending him and kind of fighting back at them too.
@minzy421
@minzy421 Месяц назад
Josh brolin was thanos and cable. No one batted an eye
@ADub-oy6jh
@ADub-oy6jh Месяц назад
The hard core fans want Victor Von Doom
@JuanEnriqueFloresJr
@JuanEnriqueFloresJr Месяц назад
I want that too. I really hope that it’s the actual Doom. Who cares if it’s RDJ and that RDJ already played Iron Man? They did the same thing with Chris Evans as the Human Torch and him and Cap are definitely not variants of each other or anything.
@717MEEK
@717MEEK Месяц назад
I LIKEEEEEE That 3rd option 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Natsu19981
@Natsu19981 Месяц назад
I think they will adapt the demon in an armour storyline. Because in one universe Tony was so successful that he created the time machine and all. That universe victor has seen tony's potential and decided to switch his body and later kill him . After that doom destroyed his family and their universe avengers. After that he discovered the multiverse and its potential and went on to become god emperor doom . And who knows he might have an army of ultron bots to conquer the multiverse .
@InterstellarInerstate
@InterstellarInerstate Месяц назад
Great video josh puts things onto perspective i like the last idea am definitely checking out robs video too thanks Nerd for life!
@PunkassErnie
@PunkassErnie Месяц назад
Disney needs the lead up movies to be awesome for the Avenger movies to work. Confidence is low at this point for them to do this. If they were good the past few years they wouldn't have needed RDJ.
@rjreyes3664
@rjreyes3664 Месяц назад
There is another option. Don't get me wrong I think he is a Tony Stark variant but if you really want to go down a rabbit hole. Could you imagine what if the Tony Stark we knew was a Victor Von Doom variant?
@rjreyes3664
@rjreyes3664 Месяц назад
That would mean RDJ is and will remain Dr. Doom moving forward in the MCU even after the soft reboot
@jamestribie3387
@jamestribie3387 Месяц назад
@@rjreyes3664just as disney intended. More RDJ 😂
@dchiznit209
@dchiznit209 Месяц назад
Imagine if Julian McMahon was the Tony Stark in another universe
@jdhitc
@jdhitc Месяц назад
I like that your giving disney this much credit like variants. Not just oh are movies are doing bad whats something we know people like about all the other movies.
@mateomenache
@mateomenache Месяц назад
nah it shouldn’t be a Tony variant, it should be Victor von Doom and the 616 heroes should be confused because of his face
@SmokeGSU
@SmokeGSU Месяц назад
There's an option 4 that already ties in with not just the early info on the new F4 movie but ALSO Captain America: Brave New World. Earth-5012 and Iron Maniac. In that universe, Reed makes a mistake that causes the death of a bunch of heroes during a fight against Titannus. Tony becomes disillusioned with Reed, fights him, and eventually gets banished to Earth-616 by Reed-5012. Tony is then captured by SHIELD where he is in prison with a robot decoy clone of the villain Diamondback whooooooooo is a member of the Serpent Society. And who did Giancarlo Esposito just reveal is coming to New World Order? Yep - Serpent Society. So the Tony in this story breaks down this decoy robot and turns it into a suit of armor. So all that being said, I think Tony-5012 will appear in the F4 movie, and Reed will make some mistake that causes a bunch of people to die to Galactus - perhaps Pepper and Happy? So Tony doesn't end up as a Von Doom varient, and he doesn't get body swapped. He's a Tony Stark that becomes Dr. Doom, or specifically Iron Maniac. This gets you your evil Tony AND Dr. Doom in the MCU.
@jimmehrabbit
@jimmehrabbit Месяц назад
Theyre just adding so many hoops tojump thru when they could have just cast a new actor. REALLY trustrating
@txtit2me
@txtit2me Месяц назад
The ultron bots from earth-838 and the evil iron man sounds a lil similar to the doom bots and rdj doom
@dburton1999
@dburton1999 Месяц назад
I think you bring RDJ back for charisma. I want to see him with the Mask on, it’ll feel more serious
@ThegodofMovies-영화의신
@ThegodofMovies-영화의신 Месяц назад
Doom's universe dies and dream walks into tony's body in to the adjacent universe
@wakaneut
@wakaneut Месяц назад
Iron-Man was good because of the story and character. RDJ is a good actor, and he magnified that. If the film's plot and characters is not good, even a good actor can only help so much. Hopefully Marvel improves on the most important parts as well.
@SmallMindEd69
@SmallMindEd69 Месяц назад
What if... it's a clone play where an embryo of Tony Starks senior was abducted then cloned at birth and the doppelganger turns out to be nurtured by a warlock that eventually turns out to be equally brilliant Dr. Doom.
@HennyBuBuProductions
@HennyBuBuProductions Месяц назад
I wonder if this is will end up being similar to how comics Kang threw Ravona Renslayer into time stream
@andrewgardner769
@andrewgardner769 Месяц назад
I think he's from a universe where doom and stark have a common ancestor. Like where branches converge and branches out. He has traits of both
@Spartan-qw2tr
@Spartan-qw2tr Месяц назад
I think he's going to be a version of tony stark that ends up with the name victor von doom (probably from the fantastic 4 movie) and ends up in the main mcu universe. But after secret wars (or maybe even during) there will be a different actor that plays a traditional dr doom going forward
@KIDSOUL777
@KIDSOUL777 Месяц назад
What if Dr. Doom escaped the 1960s F4 reality to end up in the 616 universe only to have been the MAIN villain pulling ALL the strings with magic this whole time? MAYBE He also plays a part in all the Incursions going on. Perhaps he seeks out Tony's body as a host because of his intelligence aka his Brain. How cruel...That's the villainy of Dr.Doom for ya! It's hinted that in these MCU movies, their reality can be tweaked and messed with. Especially at the end of the Loki show. Perhaps Doom also wants to use magic to alter reality and wants Tony's brain to try to one-up Reed Richards? His motivation could be to save someone...If any of you read 'Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom Triumph and Torment' Him and Dr.Strange have a lot in common with their motivations. I don't know if they tie in story arcs to make it all make sense. But if they pull it off this way I would be mindblown.
@markkujawski6502
@markkujawski6502 Месяц назад
Deep dive on Doctor Doom next month for member streams!! let’s go!!
@TrevenGilley
@TrevenGilley Месяц назад
Right on time
@mrlij6534
@mrlij6534 Месяц назад
Im surprised no one has mentioned that there could be a showdown between RDJ and RDJ, a variant of ironman played by RDJ himself versus RDJ as doom, the theater would lose its mind if that happened, lol
@thousandyeargems4360
@thousandyeargems4360 Месяц назад
They will most likely go with the story of Doom transitioning to Ironman at the end of secret wars. Maybe not to Ironman directly, but to give Doom more Ironman ideals instead of being all amoral.
@mikeymunson9504
@mikeymunson9504 Месяц назад
Bringing back RDJ as an evil Tony Stark variant is enough to get people hyped. Making him Doom just needlessly complicates things
@ryanmaughan5244
@ryanmaughan5244 Месяц назад
It would be SUPER awesome if Dr Doom was played by Julian McMahon for the body swap into RDJ
@TrevonBrown306
@TrevonBrown306 Месяц назад
Let’s go RDJ🔥🤝🏾
@michaelignatz822
@michaelignatz822 Месяц назад
So like Clu was in Tron and Sam thought he was his dad but it wasn’t. They could play that out with Doom and Spider-Man essentially and Doom just kill Spidy
@owenreece3554
@owenreece3554 Месяц назад
I think it will be a combination of options 1 and 2. It will be a mostly true to comics Victor Von Doom, but it will be stated that he is a variant of Stark. If you look back at how different variants are in the MCU you will see that it’s possible. Victor Timely for example is a Variant of Kang, that looks just like him, but has a different name (Victor lol), is born in a completely different era in a completely different environment. The body swap thing would need to be shown, if it’s just a comment that states this, that won’t work in terms of a story. And showing someone else being Doom before he changes to RDJ is kind of weird and defeats the whole reason for having RDJ.
@jacobshexladder
@jacobshexladder Месяц назад
YOU NAILED IT. This is gonna be a Demonic Doctor Doom possessing Tony's Body. Possession movie.
@postdebut6241
@postdebut6241 Месяц назад
Feige is not going to let Tom Holland's Spider-Man be the anchor being of anything. Sony only allows the MCU to leverage Spider-Man in a few/select appearances outside of his own movies. They're not going to go through all that trouble for a character they can't use as much as they want to.
@shadowkiller6637
@shadowkiller6637 Месяц назад
I will go with a Victor Von Doom inside the Tony Stark body
@zackmeaders6199
@zackmeaders6199 Месяц назад
Really depends on what happens but ive lost so much failth in Marvel. I think the haters were right. It ended with endgame
@redblue7646
@redblue7646 Месяц назад
Praying big daddy Doom Supreme Cillian Murphy appears towards the end of Doomsday and kills variant Tony and Tony Doom in front of Spider-Man
@movelikeslugg
@movelikeslugg Месяц назад
I want Cillian to be Victor him or bring back Julian McMahon
@kristagalllie
@kristagalllie Месяц назад
this is proof i needed to let marvel go. all too aware of their real life desperation with this. watching it in cinema i'd just be knowing how grim of a man kevin feige is now. and as for robert. just yuck.
@danteespinoza8119
@danteespinoza8119 Месяц назад
They are doing the what if scenario
@whoschicken
@whoschicken Месяц назад
Secret wars will be 10/10 Tom Holland spiderman with the venom symbiote and rdj as doom. Feige is cooking
@NolaNerd
@NolaNerd Месяц назад
I hope he is a variant and the real Doom will show up in Avnegers 6
@SsickMusic
@SsickMusic Месяц назад
For what's worth, I think the body swap option (happening in another universe) is the one they're going to go for.
@MrJadeskies
@MrJadeskies Месяц назад
Doom is heavily scarred and wears a mask, RDJ is a great actor and completely capable of playing two different characters in the same universe like cable/thanos. They have already confirmed he is just playing doom, not Tony from alt reality.
@Bobbytwizzle
@Bobbytwizzle Месяц назад
I'm not diggin a story line that we have DOOM a Tony Stark variant. I'd rather RDJ be Victor Von Doom that looks like Tony. Also hoping RDJ plays a Tony Stark variant in DOOMSDAY and SECRET WARS.
@JustinYale
@JustinYale Месяц назад
Josh hear me out. What if the start bites in MoM were actually Doom bots. 🤯 You heard it here first.
@LordJD10
@LordJD10 Месяц назад
Excited for RDJ but I hope that we see main marvel universe latverian Doom in future sagas
@Jalapeno_Chorizo
@Jalapeno_Chorizo Месяц назад
in the reveal RDJ got a purple heart!
@josebermea3843
@josebermea3843 Месяц назад
i can see RDJ doom manipulating symbiote spider man to join him
@brannon811
@brannon811 Месяц назад
The official marvel Facebook page introduced him as Victor Von Doom
@vq-gamesblitz
@vq-gamesblitz Месяц назад
i'd really would love a pure doctor doom but option 3 sounds interesting too. I really don't want to see it being a Stark variant.
@ensabahnur827
@ensabahnur827 Месяц назад
Option 3 makes sense with changes of course but in the end the switch back would allow Robert to end secret wars by returning as Ironman for final show down, after soft reboot we get new iron man Doom cap widow and move on into new mcu
@ensabahnur827
@ensabahnur827 Месяц назад
Also this doommwould come from 838 a universe that knows the ins and outs of the Multiverse already
@erikacornia
@erikacornia Месяц назад
I think he'll be Victor, for sure. Won't matter if he looks like Tony.
@Grifffffith
@Grifffffith Месяц назад
Doom in a Tony variant's body is the only good idea.
@PatBrennan24
@PatBrennan24 Месяц назад
I don't think we need a big explainer for RDJ playing Doom. He can just play Doom!
@fatherlucid4995
@fatherlucid4995 Месяц назад
I don’t think he signed on only to play a different version of Tony Stark. He signed on to challenge himself as an actor by playing a completely different character. And his name is Victor Von Doom
@JeffNighswander
@JeffNighswander Месяц назад
My theory: They will use the What If storyline where Doom takes over Tony Stark's body. Then at the end of Doomsday the heroes will get Tony's mind back in his own body and RDJ will be Tony Stark again.
@blackshard641
@blackshard641 Месяц назад
There is no more tired trope than that of the evil doppelganger, and there is ZERO chance of avoiding that trope as everyone's first thought thanks to this casting. At best, they're starting at a creative deficit, with lots of baggage to overcome, but might make it work. At worst, they're leaning into Multiverse shenanigans, and will only end up staining the legacy of both characters.
@dustinbridges6831
@dustinbridges6831 Месяц назад
The problem is i don’t care about RDJ, but I love RDJ as ironman. I want an actual Doom and an Actual Ironman. If RDJ doesn’t want to be ironman he can be recast and play Doolittle or whatever he did since leaving.
@ohctascooby2
@ohctascooby2 Месяц назад
The female Loki introduced the Mci audience already to body swapping. And we have seen it in lesser ways through people that the mind stone manipulated. We even saw in the X-men movies such as through striker’s son.
@giesimelendez2744
@giesimelendez2744 Месяц назад
Could have something to do with 838 Iron Man & 838 Wanda seeking revenge
@comic_sports8878
@comic_sports8878 Месяц назад
I have a theory that it's not Robert Downey Jr. and it's actually Cillian Murphy. Ryan Reynolds originally had the idea to make Deadpool and Wolverine advertised as a fake buddy cop movie. It was about two cops who share a brain. but then five minutes into the movie they would have Deadpool wolverine just start playing. Ryan Reynolds didn’t go with that idea because he felt that if people found out about it even a day before it was released, it would be devastating to him. They made posters, and he was thinking about having fake film, shoots all around cities across the US with Hugh Jackman. I wonder if #Marvel loved that idea, and they are going the long game with the fake out. The only reason that this would work is because the buzz for Robert Downey Jr. is so big that no one would think it was fake.
@megabugginout
@megabugginout Месяц назад
He Tony Starked that money?!?😅😅😅😅
@jussieeeeyunnv
@jussieeeeyunnv Месяц назад
the man who started this franchise off, is the one to end it, shatter it all totally. via greed. i love it. ha wtf man
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