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How Ruin Secretly SOLVED The Burntrap Debate 

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Burntrap has been one of FNAF's most interesting Animatronics, not only because he seems to take the form of notorious Serial Killer William Afton, but moreso because Arguments over what he truly is beneath all that flesh and costume have run rampant in the FNAF Theory Space for years now. But today, I outline 1 HIDDEN TEXTURE from Ruin that cracks the Burntrap Debate WIDE OPEN.
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@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 месяца назад
A few people are mentioning that Burntraps Model was actually made pretty EARLY on in SB's Development. I'll mention this in a planned Future Video analyzing The Mimics Model itself. However the fact that Burntraps Clawmark is in a place only The Mimic ever visits is still substantial enough evidence, despite model discrepencies.
@Vlodya
@Vlodya 3 месяца назад
Could it be that the model is different and that burntrap has flesh on him is a result of the nightmare gas? When you go through the hallway before the pizza place there is a noticeable fog in both sb and ruin, but you only walk through it in sb, in ruin you walk around it. Also there is vapor coming out of burntrap's charging station
@eljasson100mugman
@eljasson100mugman 3 месяца назад
They would be the costumes of Ruin, Tiger Rock (the story of TFTP 7), Storyteller (tree), Mimic1 (Glitchtrap) the blue dog from epilogue 7, the spider from epilogue 8, and the Jester from epilogue 8.
@cicicringe
@cicicringe 3 месяца назад
LMAO he's in the first showcase
@greggoleggo9160
@greggoleggo9160 3 месяца назад
I do think that it’s the same endo but not the same entity in control. I believe that it’s not the mimic endo in control but rather the separate but similar program that is glitchtrap. At the very least the mimic in the ruin and burntrap in security breach have different motives. The character in ruin that acts the most like burntrap is actually the entity/mxes/glitchy purple rabbit. I know people are gonna heavily disagree with this but it’s what I believe.
@longfishy
@longfishy 3 месяца назад
​@@greggoleggo9160 The only way I can see that happening is if Glitchtrap wants to secure the Mimic's body for himself, and that's why he guards it. Though it's clear that Glitchtrap in Ruin actually is in the form of the HelpI programme, or at least the specific Vanny mask we see. This makes sense as Glitchtrap is probably in the mask in HW 2, which is why he can give the memory dolls to bonnie bro. If this is true then that means he is using Cassy to free the mimic, and also infect her since he doesn't have Vanessa anymore to help him integrate himself into the mimic. Two birds with one stone (or mask).
@lastfilms3578
@lastfilms3578 3 месяца назад
Actually a great theory, but now I’m imagining this scene. “Okay, Gregory, you lure The Mimic in and distract it! I’ll pour the concrete and trap it!” “Wait, doesn’t concrete take like, days to set?” “Do a really good job.”
@AngelTheory-M
@AngelTheory-M 3 месяца назад
it is fine the mimic was made to entertain the crying child, now as gregory
@andreix4025
@andreix4025 3 месяца назад
​@@AngelTheory-Mit was n t
@PyroTheRabbit
@PyroTheRabbit 3 месяца назад
@@AngelTheory-M Wrong kid
@JLpiparote2
@JLpiparote2 3 месяца назад
maybe vanessa put that some days before and then Gregory lured the mimic inside through the vent and then escaped through the same vent, thus collapsing it because of the weight. (Probably, also i know its a joke probably i dont know)
@AngelTheory-M
@AngelTheory-M 3 месяца назад
@@JLpiparote2 the mimic can't attack Gregory, he will tries to hold as long possible to protect Gregory from anything
@datajacked4179
@datajacked4179 3 месяца назад
One error I would like to point out is that Burntrap's model wasn't made late in development, He was actually made pretty early on in development.
@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 месяца назад
I'll look into that in a future video. Thanks!
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 3 месяца назад
He was a late addition. And it's obvious
@datajacked4179
@datajacked4179 3 месяца назад
@@novustalks7525 No it's not, one of the modelers said he was the second model he made. so, it was pretty early on
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 3 месяца назад
@@datajacked4179 that doesn't mean he was only the second model ever made. Just that one guy's second creation
@griffysfnafchannel
@griffysfnafchannel 3 месяца назад
@@novustalks7525 good point there.
@michaelcarlton1484
@michaelcarlton1484 3 месяца назад
Help Wanted 2 basically seemed to indicate that the Mimic no longer had William's programming/influence. The giant Vanny crushing Glitchtrap was likely Vanessa not only overcoming her own mind control, but helping remove the same influence from the Mimic by either removing it manually or hacking it with the system we see in Ruin. So the Mimic basically got tired of that 'costume' and sought out a new identity, which happened to be Gregory. Which explains its new costume and why it did so much to copy him. The Mimic is honestly EXTREMELY similar to Ennard the more you think about it and I really wish theorists would focus on those details.
@GospodinWolf
@GospodinWolf 3 месяца назад
Nah, Vanny is actually the Mimic 1 programming after disconnecting from Glitchtrap, since it read all his information. So, Mimic killed Afton.
@hazakurasuyama9016
@hazakurasuyama9016 3 месяца назад
Mimic redemption arc when
@AngelTheory-M
@AngelTheory-M 3 месяца назад
Glitchtrap isn't the originally the mimic, its something else create by william to control it, so what vanny did was elimanted up glitchtrap from the pizzaplex
@rodrigocoockiemonster4460
@rodrigocoockiemonster4460 3 месяца назад
Immediatly after the release of Sister Location everybody thought Ennard was THE purple guy, since the explanation of Michael Afton being the one scooped only came with the release of SL Custom's night, this originally meant the killer had always been a robot and placed Ennard as the main villain this of course was later clarified/retconned. I believe Steelwool is toying with this original idea everybody had.
@andreix4025
@andreix4025 3 месяца назад
​@@AngelTheory-Mglichtrap isn t made by afton more controled by him.glichtrap is made of mimic.1 program after the fazbear entertaiment made the vr game,and no fazbear entertaiment isn t willam
@kitsunemusicisfire
@kitsunemusicisfire 3 месяца назад
As much as the idea of Gregory just sitting around while Vanessa does the work cuz he's just a kid sounds absolutely adorable, something tells me his personality won't really allow him to just sit tight and not help out. And I feel like he's more than capable.
@TechnicalTechnicolor
@TechnicalTechnicolor 3 месяца назад
According to a few arcade cabinets and the books, you are correct. He is an extremely talented hacker.
@greggoleggo9160
@greggoleggo9160 3 месяца назад
I swear steelwool made a tweet or reveal recently that confirmed the mxes machine is older than the pizzaplex. If that is the case then they didn’t make it. Which makes sense I know they’re talented hackers but they couldn’t build a super computer for a security system in one night in a dingy basement with spare parts and have it look that well made.
@longfishy
@longfishy 3 месяца назад
Yeah he literally could have just waited for 6 hours in SB doing nothing.
@PyroTheRabbit
@PyroTheRabbit 3 месяца назад
@@TechnicalTechnicolor Also a brutal kid
@Spiterz64
@Spiterz64 3 месяца назад
​@@greggoleggo9160They revealed it in the Fuhnaff interview
@Joshchive
@Joshchive 3 месяца назад
I still find it strange how the particular purple hue that appears around the vent in Burntrap's room where the clawmark is, is only present in one other place, that being where we find the Mimic during the final reveal sequence, which just so happens to be close by the only other vent that has the claw marks and connects to Mimic's room.
@TheCollector2401
@TheCollector2401 3 месяца назад
I’m slightly confused. The claw mark in the Burntrap area implies Burntrap climbed out of his area through that vent. Why is he down in the basement with the mascot costumes? (Also slight correction the M.X.E.S. system is supposed to be extremely old according to JTop in the Steelwool interview so I doubt Vanessa made it)
@OrtonLongGaming
@OrtonLongGaming 3 месяца назад
the claw mark just shows he was there, he was lured down to the mascot room presumably by gregory and vanessa
@ProfDriftwood
@ProfDriftwood 3 месяца назад
I suspect M.X.E.S. was added or activated at a later point in the timeline, as it didn't really seem to be involved in Security Breach. Though the computer is very old, the statement they made was that Vanni/Gregory had "setup the MXES security program" and "get it up and running." Even if they just hit the on button, that seems like it's probably accurate.
@gameslayer3976
@gameslayer3976 3 месяца назад
The device could have been built during the 80’s but I doubt a supercomputer that old would be able to have AR and VR capabilities.
@theengineer2017
@theengineer2017 3 месяца назад
@@gameslayer3976 It was probably modified after it's initial creation to further contain the Mimic
@gameslayer3976
@gameslayer3976 3 месяца назад
@@theengineer2017 exactly
@at_witts_end3470
@at_witts_end3470 3 месяца назад
It even explains the symbolism of Fazerblast 3: destroying a paper thin imitation of William
@Starfallsupersonic
@Starfallsupersonic 3 месяца назад
That’s actually extremely interesting. I never thought about that.
@at_witts_end3470
@at_witts_end3470 3 месяца назад
@@Starfallsupersonic Reminds me of King Kut Out from DK64 where you fight a cardboard K. Rool, lol
@Im_unknown871
@Im_unknown871 3 месяца назад
@@at_witts_end3470where was that Shown in game that would really help me for future purposes
@at_witts_end3470
@at_witts_end3470 3 месяца назад
@@Im_unknown871 Fazerblast 3 has us fight a cardboard cutout of Springtrap in the burned remains of Fall Fest. It's necessary for the Freddy memory. It represents what you do in that ending: you're killing the Mimics copy of William, tearing off the cosplay by force by killing Glitchtrap
@Im_unknown871
@Im_unknown871 3 месяца назад
@@at_witts_end3470 yeah makes sense,thanks for the notice cuz I was curious why Springtrap was there
@amanul_2474
@amanul_2474 3 месяца назад
It never occurred to me that the Mimic could only replicate Gregory's voice by hearing it ie, both of them meeting at some point. Having the mimic lure Cassie with the walkie-talkie is brilliantly ironic if you believe Gregory did the same to the mimic
@imgood3374
@imgood3374 3 месяца назад
That would've been smart that the mimic use the same tactic use against him for later
@dreemurrprince
@dreemurrprince 3 месяца назад
Fits name wise too. It mimicked gregory’s method of luring it to lure cassie down there.
@TheLegendaryBillCipher
@TheLegendaryBillCipher 3 месяца назад
I don't know about Gregory not having much of a hand in setting up the security system. In Tales from the Pizzaplex, he's been shown to be a talented enough hacker to have hacked the Glamrocks without anyone noticing.
@TurboDawn_7_13
@TurboDawn_7_13 Месяц назад
I'm pretty sure Gregory was possessed by Glitchtrap in Tales from the Pizzaplex.
@cheddadoodle
@cheddadoodle 3 месяца назад
While we’re on the topic of environmental storytelling, someone noticed an interesting detail that might further prove Burntrap is The Mimic. In Security Breach, Burntrap’s room has purple lighting, symbolizing the presence of “Afton”, or Glitchtrap. In Ruin however, the room is dark orange, which could symbolize the fact that Burntrap is no more, and now it’s just The Mimic, who as we see in Ruin dropped the Afton persona. It’s a neat little detail, and I personally believe that it was in fact meant to have significance.
@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 месяца назад
Yes you're correct about the lighting. I might mention this in a future video about FNAF's Environmental Storytelling.
@chibk
@chibk 3 месяца назад
u might be onto something cuz colors are very important in fnaf🙏🏽
@Starfallsupersonic
@Starfallsupersonic 3 месяца назад
I would also like to add there’s a specific light that turns on behind mimic in the cutscene Mimic is surrounded by purple like burn trap
@eljasson100mugman
@eljasson100mugman 3 месяца назад
a correction, Glitchtrap is Mimic by Tiger Rock, GGY and Monty Within, in MW (Monty Within) the protagonist is possessed in a very similar way to Vanessa with Glitchtrap. In Storyteller also with the tree thing there is also a theory that says that the Storyteller tree, the head of that tree (which is described in a way that looks like Tiger Rock) that the employees grabbed that head for Tiger. but it's just a theory. That's why the pizzaplex animatronics attack us and act in different ways. And in the Fazbear epilogue Frights Puppet kills William. And that's why Glitchtrap is not William, but Mimic.
@cheddadoodle
@cheddadoodle 3 месяца назад
@@eljasson100mugman I already wholeheartedly believed that Mimic was Glitchtrap. Just feels obvious at this point, and always has since Glitchtrap was introduced.
@TannerNatoli
@TannerNatoli 3 месяца назад
I love how Ruin was built off of the fact that Steel Wool made us believe the Burntrap ending was the cannon one. It was a twist that we weren’t expecting. Popular post, Tehe :)
@KyrusR
@KyrusR 3 месяца назад
steel wool never made anyone believe burntrap was canon, in fact it's _literally a 2 star ending_ compared to princess quest's 3 star ending that alone said exactly which one is canon yet almost the entire community missed it
@Lord_Chibi
@Lord_Chibi 3 месяца назад
@@KyrusR yes but remember one got a comic book ending and one got a cutscene so again it's weird.
@Zanophane_Gaming
@Zanophane_Gaming 3 месяца назад
@@Lord_Chibi its something called a "red herring"
@Takejiro24
@Takejiro24 3 месяца назад
​@@Zanophane_Gaming Either that or Steel Wool wasn't able to give the other endings fully animated cutscenes like the Burntrao ending due to lack of time. Interestingly enough, the cutscene of Freddy being torn apart (which leads into either the "Disassemble Vanny" or "Princess Quest" endings) is fully animated so make of that what you will.
@ashuraomega1000
@ashuraomega1000 2 месяца назад
It wasn't a "twist". The Burntrap ending was obviously supposed to be the Canon one, It even had a cinematic ending and everything. They just used the Mimic as a scapegoat to erase Burntrap from the story and unknowingly fucked up the lore 20x over
@boltindie9011
@boltindie9011 3 месяца назад
Also, another key point of the Mimic showing physical damage from the vent collapse is that its right leg appears to have its best idea of a bolted legbrace, trying to keep itself intact
@AdvSpringBonnie
@AdvSpringBonnie 3 месяца назад
Something i want to mention is that in a Tales from the PizzaPlex epilouge, one of the exact plans to trap the mimic is to lure him into a room, escape through a vent, and seal the door. Of course it failed in the book and the bait person died, and the mimic escaped, but it could be a narrative parallel.
@the_shadowphoenix
@the_shadowphoenix 3 месяца назад
I was waiting for someone to finally take a closer look at this room, and you finally did. Excellent work.
@bentheben328
@bentheben328 3 месяца назад
it’s crazy how much environmental story telling is in sb and the dlc.Its also probably the reason we haven’t found everything in sb yet
@KacpiTheBreadLover
@KacpiTheBreadLover 3 месяца назад
ngl, i love that afton actually died at ffps, it just makes the ending (fpps's one) so much better since we know that it actually killed william
@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo
@ThisIsAHandle-xz5yo Месяц назад
It would ruin the ending if Afton didn’t die, some of the biggest characters in the series (Micheal and Henry) died specifically to make sure William died
@Scar-Predator
@Scar-Predator Месяц назад
You know that just the building surviving ruins the ending, right? Regardless of Afton, Henry's plan was to burn the place to the ground, yet we see not only the building, but also the VERY VENTS HE SET ABLAZE STILL INTACT. Henry's plan failed in one way or another. Not everything in FNaF happens exactly as people would want.
@dragoncatoverload
@dragoncatoverload 25 дней назад
And that ultimate custom night is actually him in his own personal hell
@Cinnamowo
@Cinnamowo 3 месяца назад
Visual Storytelling in Ruin is AMAZING. I'm glad Steel Wool actually improved after their mistakes. Gives me hope for their next game
@chrange9714
@chrange9714 2 месяца назад
It was in SB to begin with, they just added more in Ruin
@Cinnamowo
@Cinnamowo 2 месяца назад
@@chrange9714 yeah, but that visual storytelling was leading kinda nowhere before Ruin (since Scott admitted that Steel Wool came up with their own ending kinda) was released unfortunately. Still pretty impressive
@chrange9714
@chrange9714 2 месяца назад
@@Cinnamowo The exact same could be said about fnaf's one, two, three, and four, pretty much every game prior. It's called setting up questions to be answered later, that's what a lot of series do. Scott never confirmed that, he just said some things weren't what he intended due to lack of proper communication between him and Steel Wool.
@Loloo_Man
@Loloo_Man Месяц назад
7:37 I don’t really know about that… in an interview with the CEO of steel wool, he revealed that MXES is an OLD machine, so I don’t think Vanessa and Gregory built it, maybe they just upgraded it
@Under_Score
@Under_Score Месяц назад
I didn't say they built it, just used it.
@C.S.Raptor
@C.S.Raptor 3 месяца назад
I would like the bring up the first scratch in the burner rooms. The Burner rooms themselves are illuminated by orange lights, no doubt signifying that the Mimic is present, however the ventilation shaft that has the Burntrap scratch mark is illuminated entirely by a purple light instead of orange. Even though the Burntrap ending doesn’t technically happen, something happened here in the burner rooms. We can’t see to the other room through the vent and both doors are blocked by rubble. Whatever happened, I believe the other side of the vent is where Afton ended up(the corpse on Burntrap is undoubtedly William Afton and you cannot convince me otherwise). Because when looking at the purple vent, the light has a spotlight effect and it’s coming from the end of the vent specifically. There’s a reason we can’t see that room.
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh 3 месяца назад
There is a problem . Burntraps claw mark IS CALLED MIMICS CLAW MARK BY THE FILES. Burntrap is the mimic
@C.S.Raptor
@C.S.Raptor 3 месяца назад
@@Sing87eh well yes, I know Burntrap is the Mimic but there is no denying the body on Burntrap’s endo is William.
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh 3 месяца назад
@@C.S.Raptor eh i beg to differ i think it's luca. And I'm stitchline soooo
@C.S.Raptor
@C.S.Raptor 3 месяца назад
@@Sing87eh has rotting purple flesh, 4th degree burns, glowing purple eyes, a Springlock rib cage, and a suit made of rotten flesh and bone. That shit is not a coincidence.
@Skibbutz
@Skibbutz 3 месяца назад
Burntraps Corpse is more likely to just be fake like the AR springtraps corpses. Vanessa made both after all. Not to mention that Tales comes as a package deal with the Stitchline due to Frailty. Meaning Aftons corpse is not something Vanessa or Glitchtrap could ever get their hands on because its not in FFPS and they would have no clue where it went
@BlustreakG
@BlustreakG 3 месяца назад
After Cassie Escapes the Mimic, I can't remember if his hand was cut off by the elevator door too. Making him lose another hand. So chances of the Models of both Mimic and Burntrap not being similar is because the Mimic was yet to become the Burntrap at some point. They'd keep getting damaged in which they'd find replacement parts
@wolfietronic356
@wolfietronic356 3 месяца назад
Oh, hi blu
@GermanFFreddy
@GermanFFreddy 3 месяца назад
If this is the case, why would he remove the Springbonnie suit? Also, fun fact! Before Glitchtrap, they were originally going to use Springbonnie, and when he was scrapped, they reused some parts for Burntrap.
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh 3 месяца назад
Cause he's not mimcking afton any more
@lastfilms3578
@lastfilms3578 3 месяца назад
My guess would be that when Vanny (or at least whoever we see in HW2’s PQ4 ending whether it be Vanny or Vanessa) kills Glitchtrap, The Mimic stops mimicking it.
@lackypub8624
@lackypub8624 3 месяца назад
Well the mimic like to mimic other things and didn't see a reason to mimic the springbonnie suit.
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh 3 месяца назад
@@lackypub8624 he mimicked Afton though ffve not mimicking springbonnie
@lackypub8624
@lackypub8624 3 месяца назад
@@Sing87eh Sorry that's What I meant to say. Still no reason to mimic afton is because it was stuck down for a while and got bored or it and the skin suit sustained too much damage.
@Starbear_Ent
@Starbear_Ent 3 месяца назад
This debate should have ended a long time ago with the Tales from the Pizzaplex books. People always skip this for some reason, maybe because they don't like the reveal, but The Mimic in the Epilogues of these books is described like Burntrap's endo, rabbit ears included! The workers even thought he was a Bonnie endo! I also thought Help Wanted 2 solved it with the Mask bot ending, but apparently people were not convinced. The light in Burntrap's room also changes from purple to orange in Ruin. And the design change can also be explained by The Mimic's ability to reconfigurate his body (He turned into a spider once!). I believe that if they straight-up confirm it somewhere, fans would say that it's a retcon because they debunked their headcanon.
@sophitiaofhyrule
@sophitiaofhyrule 3 месяца назад
I hate that you're right
@GospodinWolf
@GospodinWolf 3 месяца назад
Nah, that's because the real debate was around Glitchtrap being Mimic 1, which he isn't, now that there's lore drops that confirm that. We knew that Glitchtrap was Burntrap, but after The Mimic was shown ppl claimed that this Mimic was Glitchtrap (which he wasn't), which eventually led to people saying that Burntrap isn't Mimic.
@Starbear_Ent
@Starbear_Ent 3 месяца назад
@@GospodinWolf but Glitchtrap did come from the Mimic1 program. It was formed when Mimic1 was scanned into Help Wanted and created a virtual copy of Afton because it's a game with Faz ent lore. Just like how he created a virtual Glamrock Tiger in one of the VR booths of the Pizzaplex
@GospodinWolf
@GospodinWolf 3 месяца назад
@@Starbear_Ent He wasn't ? Why then would Mimic 1 program kill itself in the Glitchtrap form ? If you're confused i'm talking about Help Wanted 2's secret ending, where Vanny (the identity of Mimic 1 that is now copying Glitchtrap) kills, well, Glitchtrap. That's the only reason why Vanny existed after PQ ending and in HW 2, it was afraid that Glitchtrap would take back control again, and THAT's the reason why Gregory and Vanessa went back to the Pizzaplex, and THAT is why Glitchtrap is NOT Mimic 1. PERIOD.
@Starbear_Ent
@Starbear_Ent 3 месяца назад
@@GospodinWolf I think you are overcomplicating things. The PQ 4 Ending was Vanessa using Vanny for good and killing what was left of Glitchtrap. Mimic1 did not kill itself, I don't know where did you get that from, Gregory made Glitchtrap weak after PQ 3, and PQ 4 destroyed him for good. The death of Glitchtrap caused The Mimic to not be Burntrap anymore. The last thing Glitchtrap did was to give the mask to Cassie so she could free The Mimic
@boltindie9011
@boltindie9011 3 месяца назад
Additionally on the thought of alternative endings that still could’ve happened, the Scooper Ending of Ruin is a mirror to the Burntrap ending, with the clawed scooper acting as the Funtime face-plated Tangle picking up Burntrap, but instead it’s the Mimic Endo, which shows us what could’ve happened after Burntrap was scooped up by the Tangle, with the costume being ripped off and the Endo being spat out. With the Scooper ending being the inverse. In Ruin however, the Tangle escaped without tearing up Burntrap, thus it’s the vent collapse that damaged him instead of the Tangle.
@bubbleshock14
@bubbleshock14 3 месяца назад
The scratch marks are very interesting for sure, but why is the entire rest of the body (except for one hand) completely different as well?
@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 месяца назад
Steel Wools models change a lot. There's the Prototype on Freddy's Foot, and even some of the Ruineds have IMPOSSIBLE Inconsistencies to the Shattereds. Model Consistency is lacking usually, however Burntrap wouldddd be the most exaggerated case of this.
@VOgaming51official
@VOgaming51official 3 месяца назад
@@Under_Score there's probably prototype on Freddy's foot because that Freddy is a prototype. As for the shattereds, you'd have to go into details. Roxy's face is explain in HW 2 if that's one of them.
@bubbleshock14
@bubbleshock14 3 месяца назад
@@Under_Score I was thinking about it after, would it be possible that the mimic attacked Burntrap and dragged him down there? I feel like it's more likely that it took burntrap's hand for repairs than Burntrap changing everything else. As you said, models in SB can be inconsistent, but this is taking it to the very extreme
@TheJonkler1
@TheJonkler1 3 месяца назад
@@bubbleshock14 No not really.The Mimic in Tales was described to be a perfect match for his endo,he has a ribcage,2 clawed arms,2 rabbit ears that resemble antennae.Its pretty much confirmed that he is Burntrap
@lastfilms3578
@lastfilms3578 3 месяца назад
@@VOgaming51officialI think that the prototype sticker was always there, and time has just worn off the paint covering it. Given the overwhelming amount of evidence we have for Princess Quest being the canon ending, it would be really strange to have a decapitated Freddy in the correct spot and not have it be the real Freddy. As to why this choice was made, I think there are two reasons. For one, it help explains why when the Glichtrap virus attempts to takeover Freddy, it fails. And the other reason would to be to complete one of Freddy’s mini-‘arcs.’ In parts and service in Security Breach, you can get unique dialogue where Freddy panics over the possibility that he isn’t the only Freddy, and therefore not art. Ruin answers this. He is the only him, he is the first, he is art.
@Starfallsupersonic
@Starfallsupersonic 3 месяца назад
A good explanation for burntraps corpse suit is the flesh corpse theory Basically when glitch trap is put inside mimic The agony is so strong that it grow the corpse and suit. It’s shown in the books, agony creatures, like pittrap and in the fleshtrap that and they can have flesh and suits from pure agony. The purple smoke is the stench of agony because agony smells bad according to fright. Now I do think glitch trap is also mimic so that does ask the question why mimic is corrupt mimic so here’s my best answers 1. To make himself stronger 2. to reactivate himself and heal himself. (most likely I think since burn traps asleep in the pod) As for what happens to the corpse and costume mimic just takes it off like how he takes off Kelly’s flesh after it gets on him The reason he doesn’t do this on the burntrap ending is because he gets distracted by Gregory and Freddy As for burntrap behavior in the boss fight I think it’s just because he’s not fully charge so he needs to rely on the animatronics to get rid of Gregory
@VOgaming51official
@VOgaming51official 3 месяца назад
isn't Afton heavily assocciated with the color purple in fnaf. Also, in the frights books epilouges, Afton's spirit has that same bad stench. Also, why would the mimic need a charging station? It doesn't look anything like the glamrock endos, which would need charging stations. Also, if mimic can control the animatronics then why doesn't it do it in ruin. I'd have to assume it was controlling the animatronics through out the base security breach game. Also, given mimic's character, what would be the end goal for pretending to be Afton? As for the part of the theory stating that Afton's agony, if not Afton himself, corrupted and changed the structure of _A_ mimic I can see that.
@Starfallsupersonic
@Starfallsupersonic 3 месяца назад
@@VOgaming51official mimic can’t control the animatronics because mxes controls all of them Or he can but he chooses not to because he wants Cassie to save them. (mask bot makes this weird) MXES controls all of the animatronics and ruin tho they only start attacking Cassie after she gets the mask and MXES calls the animatronics to attack her Glitch trap is a branch of mimic and re-creating Afton is not mimic main goal HIs main according to Tiger rock to learn as much as he can he loves learning
@TheStarlingGuy
@TheStarlingGuy 3 месяца назад
Doesn't Fnaf AR also imply/confirm that Glitchtrap can create flesh? Because the Springtrap replicas have flesh in them. I don't think The Mimic would need too charge since he's basiclly a agony creature at this point( and NO a digital-ghost *wouldn't* *need* to charge either) and agony creatures if I remember correctly don't need anything to function. Eleanor can eat a apple apperently but idk if she has to. But I really don't have any other explanation for this so... yeah idk. I think Mimic's behavior in Burntrap's Boss battle can be explained by the fact that it was probally extremely rushed. In AstrallSpiff SB beta video (this one ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-omcuNAdjkpg.htmlsi=-0TIPux5161JGdXy. ) the Burntrap ending is seemingly unfinished. Keep in mind that this is the PlayStation version and that the time between this and fullgame is reportedly around *1* *month*. If the same is for the PC version then (including optimazing) Burntrap's weird behavior is rather understantable.
@pikaland3852
@pikaland3852 3 месяца назад
"the stench of agony because agony smells bad" it's now my headcannon that Agony smells like the most rancid fart that has ever existed but like X10. Why? because it's funny.
@Starfallsupersonic
@Starfallsupersonic 2 месяца назад
@@TheStarlingGuy I’m late but this is extremely good point thank you
@MrStain87
@MrStain87 3 месяца назад
I enjoyed listening to this theory! Using the tool steel wool uses (environmental story telling) as a way to figure out the lore is such a fun idea. Back in the veteran days of fnaf, Scott would always leave codes and clues to help us solve the lore in places we wouldn't expect. (Although a bit more obvious) I'm glad steel wool can keep this franchise going. Even when some don't want it to. Thank you for sharing!
@DJBurns-jq8mn
@DJBurns-jq8mn 3 месяца назад
Once again something new is discovered and helps us theorize. However consider this: The mimic endo was in the Pizzaplex before it even opened to the public meaning it would of had to of been sealed early on in the Pizzaplex construction otherwise it would cause trouble. What is more likely imo is that the Burntrap ending is canon along with the Princess Quest ending with it happening before Princess Quest as it is still labeled as the true ending in Security Breach and with Princess Quest having 3 stars means it's the best possible ending meaning everything that could be dealt with was dealt with meaning Burntrap was taken by the Blob and the Mimic could of found the remains of Burntrap after the Blob unalived him and torn off his limbs like it was programmed to do as well as replaced parts of them with Burntrap's thus explaining why the Mimic endo is uneven in design. With that the Blob escapes, Gregory finds the mimic sealed but the earthquake allowed the Mimic an opportunity to escape and Gregory then tricks the Mimic resulting in it getting Gregory's voice and walkie talkie leading uo to Ruin. This also works well with other things like how Gregory knows the Mimic was down there for so long, how Gregory and Freddy got out, why theres a drawing of Burntrap right before the Blob takes them and how all the animatronics are missing the parts used for Freddy which can only be done when doing the Burntrap ending.
@Pendulum42069
@Pendulum42069 3 месяца назад
I think you're onto something with the vent textures, but there is a few things going against burntrap being the mimic. First, the model differences, specifically the torso area. Underneath peepaw aftons suit has the weird ribcage like thing that springlock suits have. Second I dont know how the mimic would just ditch a random corpse and have 0 trace of it whatsoever but this could just be overlooked as a thing to keep ruin PG13 or something. Third, as someone else mentioned, the claw mark in burntraps area was going towards the place we fight him as Gregory in SB, therefore I'd be weird that he'd just turn around or something, fight Gregory down in the mimic lair area and get trapped. Now I dont have a explanation as to why the claw marks are in the mimic vent, but im sure someone could come up with something. lastly and most importantly, in a the official SB files book, it says this: "Gregory eventually ends up in a secret office where he faces off with burntrap----a withered spring bonnie animatronic merged with the body of Five Nights at Freddy's antagonist William Afton. Defeat Afton, and this ending is yours." (Page 94 btw) so the a official book outright CONFIRMS this is William Afton, now idk if this has been confirmed wrong or something because I haven't really been keeping up with fnaf lore lol BUT YEAH just thought I'd point this out!
@thomascreegan6813
@thomascreegan6813 3 месяца назад
have you read the mimics original story it's able to shrink grow and do any thing to get in to a costume
@Pendulum42069
@Pendulum42069 3 месяца назад
@thomascreegan6813 admittedly, not all of them, BUT I do know that it can't just grow a corpse, now I do know that it springlocked Kelly, but considering ruin takes place after SB that means the mimic would have ditched the corpse somehow which I find hard to believe
@FNAFfan23.lovesFNAF
@FNAFfan23.lovesFNAF 3 месяца назад
Finally someone mentioned the book. At this point I am not that sure if it’s 100% accurate but I’d really like to believe that. I like to think that Burntrap and the mimic are two separate characters. There’s been too many theories about the mimic being Burntrap or the mimic not being Burntrap that I’ll rather wait for the next game to come out and we’ll see. Even though this theory seems as the most believable due to the environmental storytelling. As I said. Nice point with the book. In the official character encyclopaedia there’s also written that Burntrap is Afton. But the book has a few characters missing and some mistakes about character appearances in games, so I don’t believe it 100% too
@scprwbysportal7202
@scprwbysportal7202 3 месяца назад
​@@FNAFfan23.lovesFNAF what I drew from the dudes vid he seems to be saying mimic is a even further damaged burntrap. And even then being able to grow or shrink doesn't mean you can remove the earholes where the nunny ears would be, ontop of the many endoskelital and fleshy diffirences. Some people probably thought to change out burntrap for "the mimic" as to keep the rating low for the children playing and the sales, but kept some pieces of burntrap to say they're the same but burntrap became the mimic. I also Agree with your point of burntrap and mimic being separete enteties. Also I hate the mimic because the concept is overused but thats my own personal thing.
@xandercrosby3757
@xandercrosby3757 2 месяца назад
@@scprwbysportal7202 I personally that Burntrap is Afton barely clinging to life, and when he gets tricked by Gregory and Vannessa into the vent basically gives up. The Mimic was a seperate character who was unearthed/damaged by the collapse, and uses the busted Afton to repair himself.
@GxmrLf
@GxmrLf 29 дней назад
Here’s has a theory Vanny found a very destroyed scrap trap and then gathered a bunch of parts to fix him up and that created burn trap
@neverland8974
@neverland8974 3 месяца назад
I've watched this video three times now and I'll never reach the high I did when you first revealed the claw mark in the Mimic Tunnel. I gasped out loud and then started screeching "I KNEW IT. I KNEW MIMIC WAS BURNTRAP" on repeat.
@andreix4025
@andreix4025 3 месяца назад
Its was so obious that burntrap was never meant to be afton, ever since Tales relesed
@hazakurasuyama9016
@hazakurasuyama9016 2 месяца назад
@@andreix4025 explain the purple then? Or the fact that it’s literally just a better springtrap design (yeah I said it)
@andreix4025
@andreix4025 2 месяца назад
@@hazakurasuyama9016 the Purple smoke doesn t mean nothing when you relise the same smoke is found in ruin near Mimics room and on Mimics digital form
@hazakurasuyama9016
@hazakurasuyama9016 2 месяца назад
@@andreix4025 purple is william’s color though, orange is the mimic’s color
@andreix4025
@andreix4025 2 месяца назад
@@hazakurasuyama9016 coulour doesn t mean evrything lol,its Like saying Purple is bonnies colour and saying that he is a glich when he isn t,again it doesn t matter if its a Purple coulour,its Like saying glichtrap is willam cuz of the coulour when its the Mimic mimicing him
@JinxeBlaq
@JinxeBlaq 3 месяца назад
One thing that contradicts a part of this theory is the fact that, during FahNaf’s interview with Steel Wool, they confirmed the machine is REALLY old. So they couldn’t have set that system up. That aside this is a pretty solid theory!
@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 месяца назад
I said they set the system up, but didn’t say where it came from ;)
@JinxeBlaq
@JinxeBlaq 3 месяца назад
@@Under_Score Clever, very clever lol
@ahmedmed8021
@ahmedmed8021 3 месяца назад
The only thing that still hasn't been commented on about Burntrap is: How does he have decaying flesh? on a sidenote, Burntrap's endoskeleton should've been a human skeleton with metal joints and wires and his suit could've been stitched up fabric to look like a rabbit
@vomitedthoughts
@vomitedthoughts 3 месяца назад
I hate to say it but I think they really just threw that Afton ending together just to call it done because of time constraints because I can't see them trying to hint the mimic at all in SB
@at_witts_end3470
@at_witts_end3470 3 месяца назад
The P46 therapy tapes actually make it pretty obvious mimic was the plan. A therapist mentions at one point that Gregory is talking to an AI that takes in information from prompts. A generative AI, but one that's manipulative and asking questions to Gregory. Only problem is...Gregory's playing him.
@vomitedthoughts
@vomitedthoughts 3 месяца назад
@@at_witts_end3470 unfortunately I never found all the disc because of that stupid no saving after 6:00, no idea why the hell I thought that was a smart idea to implement that, that being said if the mimic was planned it doesn't seem like that was really focused on. So either they just didn't know how or had more important things to focus on and it didn't actually put any major hints along the game, and I mean like obvious I know FNAF is supposed to be kind of vague but at some point you have to just basically making a neon sign of it's this, after all they call it the Afton boss fight in game so either they just threw it together and thought they can twist it and later or something
@at_witts_end3470
@at_witts_end3470 3 месяца назад
@@vomitedthoughts they fixed saving and you could just google all the therapy tapes. It's also not the "Afton ending". It's the Burntrap ending. MAJOR difference. There's also the Mimics damaged head in Help Wanted's files.
@vomitedthoughts
@vomitedthoughts 3 месяца назад
@@at_witts_end3470 really I remember going into the files and having Afton referenced a lot, and damaged mimic head, HW 1 or 2?
@at_witts_end3470
@at_witts_end3470 3 месяца назад
@@vomitedthoughts he is not. And in Help Wanted 1. It was one of the images on the exotic butters screen before people found out it was from Showbiz.
@Crystal-pro-2024
@Crystal-pro-2024 3 месяца назад
While were talking about reused assets, mimic also reuses a lot of assets, he has nightmare chicas leg and hand, and an endo 01 head, but modified, as an exsample. Which isnt exsactly un common for ruin given that practicly every character is an asset flip, even cassie herself seemed to use gregory as a base, which is why her ruin modle just looked so... off, tho that ones speculation only. I guess here keeping the tradition of physical mimics only being asset flips
@Unknowncameraman15
@Unknowncameraman15 3 месяца назад
Hey man how are you
@Skibbutz
@Skibbutz 3 месяца назад
The Mimics head in Ruin is a completely uniqe asset, its not similar to Endo 01 at all idk how you came to that conclusion But yes he does reuse nightmare chicas endo foot. Although like his nightmare hand, its technically a new model with unique topology, it just isn't a new design. So its only kinda half of an asset flip
@Samantha517
@Samantha517 3 месяца назад
Wait, but what happened to all of the dead and rotted skin that was covering Burntrap in SB? Did the Mimic rip it all off while it was chasing Gregory?
@at_witts_end3470
@at_witts_end3470 3 месяца назад
Tore it off after Vanessa and Jeremy took Glitchtrap out back with a shotgun and painted the ground black with his weird code goo. No reason to pretend to be William if the code of you that says "be William" is dead. Might as well imitate the person you hate most (after Jeremy). The person who beat you.
@Samantha517
@Samantha517 3 месяца назад
@@at_witts_end3470 Ok that makes sense.
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 3 месяца назад
​@@at_witts_end3470why would the mimic even have that corpse in the first place
@Starfallsupersonic
@Starfallsupersonic 3 месяца назад
@@novustalks7525 because of glitch traps agony he grows the corpse
@Starfallsupersonic
@Starfallsupersonic 3 месяца назад
The books have mimic rip off Kelly corpse after it gets on him so After he leaves the pod because there’s no tangle and Gregory he walks around the location and takes it off
@THGMR-ox7sd
@THGMR-ox7sd 3 месяца назад
Huh... interesting. I've seen people saying Burntrap isn't the Mimic. I've seen people say he is the Mimic. But this is some interesting environmental storytelling. I bet someone will find a way to disprove it somehow but this seems pretty convincing to me. The thing is why do this though other than the obvious "people hated that Afton came back so we're gonna pretend that's not Afton"?
@Crystal-pro-2024
@Crystal-pro-2024 3 месяца назад
Mostly because mimic was kinda teased as far back as hw2 with glitchtrap mincing tape girl, and that being the only speech he ever has, which is how mimic also works I ruin.
@nationalpv
@nationalpv 3 месяца назад
People only say they retconned BurnTrap because there’s the Mimic. This video actually has evidence as to why BurnTrap isn’t a retcon and is the mimic we see in ruin. Nothing ever said that BurnTrap was even Afton in the first place
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 3 месяца назад
It's easily disproven. He couldn't explain why the mimic doesn't have the springlocked corpse
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 3 месяца назад
@@nationalpv burntrap was literally springtrap, had a voice actor in the security breach trailer that said his character was afton, has the whole purple colour association and much more. The mimic IS a retcon
@Crystal-pro-2024
@Crystal-pro-2024 3 месяца назад
@@novustalks7525 he had a voice in the trailer, but thw trailer isn't what we got. If it was, we'd be arguing over how the hell Mike has multiple lives while working in fnaf 1, all we have is what's in the final game they gave us, which is no voice at all. At that point, just start using cut content if your going to use very outdated trailers.
@CalebStearns
@CalebStearns Месяц назад
Princess quest 3 wasnt really shocking as the confirmed ending. It was pretty obvious it was the cannon ending as its the only ending that has an achievement behind it, and the only 3 star ending.
@HolasoyConejito
@HolasoyConejito 3 месяца назад
I don't know if Burntrap and Mimic are the same, since with the exception of the left hand, they have nothing in common, and it's not even completely the same, and Mimic has no traces of flesh, or anything like that.
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh 3 месяца назад
He does have traces of flesh his marks on him
@HolasoyConejito
@HolasoyConejito 2 месяца назад
@@Sing87eh Where, donde?
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh 2 месяца назад
@@HolasoyConejito on his claw hand
@dant3_rodant395
@dant3_rodant395 2 месяца назад
I get from where your coming from but you have to remember mimic can fit into anything.
@ashuraomega1000
@ashuraomega1000 2 месяца назад
Yeah. Burntrap is the charred corpse of Scraptrap that was fixed by Vanny and possessed by Glitchtrap. The Mimic looks nothing like Burntrap. They are obviously two different characters
@Switchblade77
@Switchblade77 Месяц назад
Why do they always just try to trap the animatronics, get some dynamite and blow them back to the hell they came from
@themaskedshark
@themaskedshark 3 месяца назад
So steel wool didnt know how too explain burntrap so they came up with a whole different character just too solve it?
@Personian
@Personian 3 месяца назад
No, The Mimic is Scott’s creation, since he wrote the lore. Steel Wool has no involvement in actually writing the lore Plus Mimic was a planned addition since 2019
@themaskedshark
@themaskedshark 3 месяца назад
@@Personian oh so they used one of Scott's old book characters too explain burntrap
@longfishy
@longfishy 3 месяца назад
​@@Personian Yes SWS actually creates all of the lore since UCN. They just run all their ideas by through Scott and he either agrees with the idea or shards some light on what he wants them to change.
@Personian
@Personian 3 месяца назад
@@longfishy Steel Wool literally has nothing to do with modern FNAF lore, they just do what Scott says, where the hell did you get this information from.
@Personian
@Personian 3 месяца назад
@@themaskedshark No, Scott is in charge of everything that happens in the games, although he himself does not make them
@LunaCecropia
@LunaCecropia 2 месяца назад
i remember thinking that vanny was just insane and wanted to bring her favorite fictional killer to like like me with jeff the killer when i was 12
@darkhumour741
@darkhumour741 3 месяца назад
Theory - Mimic’s replacement arm and foot in Ruin came from one of the mass produced Mimics referenced in the Tales epilogues Mimic’s room not only has old costumes he or his clones presumably wore, but Steel Wool confirmed in John Fuhnaff’s interview the MXES machine was intentionally designed to look old. What if Fazbear Ent used that room and MXES to contain/destroy the Mimic 2 endos?
@Starfallsupersonic
@Starfallsupersonic 3 месяца назад
I definitely think mimic is burntrap and glitchtrap as well Mimic is literally the only endo in the basement and he can shapeshift his endo to fit any costume mimic ends his story with him getting springlocked and leaking oil And the first place we see burn trap is in a “recharge station” And burntrap couldn’t have been killed by tangle in ruin since the office is still intact and the burnttrap ending has tangled, destroy it And another thing is that Cassie goes down the elevator, however glamrock Freddy states the elevator is a one-way trip
@VOgaming51official
@VOgaming51official 3 месяца назад
shave shift ru-vid.comgaming/emoji/7ff574f2/emoji_u1f480.png
@GospodinWolf
@GospodinWolf 3 месяца назад
Mimic ain't Glitchtrap
@theraptorblue6675
@theraptorblue6675 3 месяца назад
@@GospodinWolf he is
@ender01o66
@ender01o66 3 месяца назад
@@GospodinWolf I like how neither of you provided any evidence.
@GospodinWolf
@GospodinWolf 3 месяца назад
@@ender01o66 Do I need to explain Vanny existing after Security Breach? Do I need to explain that Vanny killed Glitchtrap, which means Vanny is Mimic 1? Do I need to explain how purple theme that was in SB is seemingly gone in ruin, while main antagonists still exist? By last one I mean Mimic1 and The Mimic which was Burntrap, but Mimic1 killed Glitchtrap so he gained control and his knowledge of luring people. Do I?
@SkulduggeryPleasant1
@SkulduggeryPleasant1 2 месяца назад
It can't be. Burntrap's head is different. And his structure. The Mimic has that bar on his shoulders,plus those ringlets on his limbs. Burntrap doesn't.
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh 2 месяца назад
We never see burntraps endo head. And springtrap and scraptrap look nothing alike yet there the same . Also burntraps claw mark is found right where mimic resides the files also call burntraps claw mark mimics. Confirming there the same
@ripeverythingout
@ripeverythingout 2 месяца назад
Fnaf characters change designs in impossible ways frequently. Springtrap and scraptrap, circus baby and scrap baby, classic freddy and withered freddy, ennard and molten freddy, ext. The mimic’s endoskeleton visibly changes when it wears the mascot costume in ruin. The mimic is essentially capable of shapeshifting. It has previously reconfigured itself into a spider with nine legs, a worm-like thing with three limbs coming out its front, and its head once expanded out from a metal plate it ejected.
@SkulduggeryPleasant1
@SkulduggeryPleasant1 2 месяца назад
@@ripeverythingout oh,I hadn't heard of that. Was that in one of the books? Because if so I haven't read any except the Silver Eyes,Twisted ones,and Fourth closet.
@KiddieStranglerALLEGEDLY
@KiddieStranglerALLEGEDLY 3 месяца назад
some people may think that just even though burntrap could very well be the mimic that that means that William isn't still around, he always comes back after all, but beside that William is a very strong spirit and can control more than just the spring bonnie suit as is seen in the fazbear frights books, thus meaning that he still can come back.
@namesmitt
@namesmitt 3 месяца назад
You mean those same books that called him very weak and barely clinging on to life?
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh 3 месяца назад
Those same books that kill him for good
@CompyComputer
@CompyComputer 2 месяца назад
3:16 TANGLE?! THATS THE BLOB!
@evanlim9098
@evanlim9098 2 месяца назад
Well his name in the files is tangle_blob so its interchangeable
@CompyComputer
@CompyComputer 2 месяца назад
@@evanlim9098 It's the blob
@CompyComputer
@CompyComputer 2 месяца назад
@@evanlim9098 Not tangle
@evanlim9098
@evanlim9098 2 месяца назад
The wiki literally calls him tangle
@bmaxbearlove6667
@bmaxbearlove6667 2 месяца назад
It's tangle now Previously it was called blob but they changed it to tangle search the wiki I got the same result from 10 internet search
@Eagle-EX
@Eagle-EX Месяц назад
To many differences to convince me that Burntrap and the Mimic are the same character.
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh Месяц назад
Ig springtrap isn't afton then
@at_witts_end3470
@at_witts_end3470 2 месяца назад
scott basically just confirmed this. In the original intent, however, Burntrap was seemingly meant to be a new form of Glitchtrap both Gregory and Vanessa saw in their heads. Steel Wool got confused, so now, the explanation is "Vanny gave them Lucas corpse from Pressure. Idfk."
@chrange9714
@chrange9714 2 месяца назад
That's not what Scott said, in Dawko's recent interview with him he said Bunrtrap was supposed to just lay in a corner you could just barely see as an easter egg and lore hint to where you were at. The fnaf6 location, he would've never moved around and was literally supposed to be Afton dead.
@the_godbodor7026
@the_godbodor7026 3 месяца назад
Honestly, on their way down to the Pizza Place Gregory and Vanessa probably saw The Blob escape the sinkhole before luring and trapping Burntrap/Mimic in the costume room. Then once he was sealed Vanessa set up the MXES terminal while Gregory drew the Burntrap Ending panel, incorporating the two monstrous robots he had just encountered.
@springtrap4225
@springtrap4225 3 месяца назад
New theory to explain Gregory and his different ending drawings: Gregory is secretly frisk Undertale and has the ability to reset timelines and shit and that's why he knows about the different endings and draws them... for some reason. idk.
@Kirasque
@Kirasque 2 месяца назад
I was staunchly opposed to Burntrap = Mimic, but those claw marks have convinced me
@randomaccountwithmusic4206
@randomaccountwithmusic4206 3 месяца назад
"but burntrap and mimic dont look the same" No, no way? Really? Oh I guess all the mismatched parts couldnt be, idk. Replaced?!
@dant3_rodant395
@dant3_rodant395 2 месяца назад
Exactly, also Scott has always changed models to the point they look nothing alike ( example scrap and springtrap )
@rasyasejati
@rasyasejati 2 месяца назад
the Scott interview kinda verified this
@Julia-sc2qb
@Julia-sc2qb 3 месяца назад
Guys burntrap's eyes are black and the mimic's are white.
@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 месяца назад
Thanks, this actually helps! The Mimic has the ability to change its eye color.
@MrShadowGuy
@MrShadowGuy 2 месяца назад
Burntraps eyes are purple. You can clearly see when he comes out in sb
@pepperonipizzaproductions6179
@pepperonipizzaproductions6179 Месяц назад
Burntrap’s PUPILS are purple, his eyes are black.
@Scar-Predator
@Scar-Predator Месяц назад
Burntrap himself doesn't have actual eyes, just the spots where the eyes of a Glamrock endo would go, which are giving that illuminated purple light, signifying Glitchtrap, while the Mimic, it's got animatronic eyes, with color changing pupils, but they're there. Take notice of how never once does Burntrap look somewhere that his head wasn't already pointing. His eyes are fixed forward, like Glitchtrap, and unlike the Mimic.
@the-autistic-spider
@the-autistic-spider Месяц назад
so in the recent Dawko and Scot Cawthon interview Scott mentions how he would of called MXES ar trap or vr trap jokingly meaning he confirmed MXES is glitchtrap/William
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh Месяц назад
No. He directly calls him ai as in no soul and says mxes is a character and we know for a FACT mxes is ai. And Gltichtrap is mimic1
@lordvik2259
@lordvik2259 3 месяца назад
Your discovery is really interesting, but I don't believe it's enough to prove that Burntrap and the Mimic are the same. Your point was that the claw mark was the same on both characters, and that their claws were practically the same, but you yourself said that Steel Wool reused assets they already had for Help Wanted, which probably also happened with The Mimic , use an asset they already had. I believe that Burntrap and The Mimic are two distinct characters, with The Mimic being the creation of Edwin (or perhaps Henry in the games' timeline), probably dating back to the 1980s or later, while Burntrap is literally what's left of William Afton as Scraptrap from Fnaf Pizzeria Simulator (considering that Scraptrap was just a bad design and was retconned by making Burntrap have parts of Springbonnie's original design), but enhanced with new parts possibly Glamrock or from another model line, but not being William Afton is the one possessing it. Analyzing Burntrap's design, we can see that the disproportionate shoulders do not connect with the rod of the original Springlock model, as if they had been placed later, in addition, Burntrap's eyes are very similar to Torture Freddy's eyes from the Fnaf film, who is speculated to be a Springlock. We know that the eyes of Springbonnie (with William Afton), Springtrap and Scraptrap are gray, but in Burntrap they are purple, which leads me to believe that Burntrap does not have the spirit or soul of William Afton controlling him, but rather the program Glitchtrap, as if he were remotely controlling a physical body. With his discovery of the claw marks, it leads me to believe that Burntrap escaped, just as shown in the Fnaf SB trailer, where we see his hand outside the sinkhole. Regarding Burntrap's whereabouts, it is possible that he found the Amalgamolten (Blob), explaining how Blob suddenly started moving around inside the Pizzaplex. Any error or flaw you find in my theory, feel free to point it out! By the way, great video!
@Starfallsupersonic
@Starfallsupersonic 3 месяца назад
Burntrap can’t be William corpse because William blows up his corpse in the man in room 1280
@AustinPlayzNothing
@AustinPlayzNothing 3 месяца назад
@@Starfallsupersonic fazbear frights isn’t in the same timeline
@AustinPlayzNothing
@AustinPlayzNothing 3 месяца назад
Your argument with the handprint is flawed, because the handprint is a new asset which means stealeool had to make that asset during the creation of ruin. The asset likely had to be drawn with the intent of it being a mimic hand print.
@Starbear_Ent
@Starbear_Ent 3 месяца назад
​@@AustinPlayzNothing it is in the same timeline. Fnaf fans convinced they weren't because they don't like them.
@lordvik2259
@lordvik2259 3 месяца назад
@@AustinPlayzNothing Not really, the handmark is the same for both, Considering that both have the same hands, It is not unlikely that Steel Wool used the same handmark asset for different occasions. Not really a flaw, but just not enough evidence to prove or disprove the idea
@Sejoseon
@Sejoseon 3 месяца назад
Gregory the stuntman of the series Also great, can i add that the burntrap ending has a lot of parallels with into the pit "functionality" wise? Theres a pit, an organic springwilly, father figure almost gets kidnapped, springwilly dies by enTANGLEment, the event is hugely speculated to be an acid trip (by agony)
@Serial_Designation-3-N
@Serial_Designation-3-N 3 месяца назад
but the mimic is alot more taller then burntrap? so.....does that mean burntrap some how got taller?....also did he just loos his bring bonnie suite along with his body flesh?
@sh1myuu
@sh1myuu 3 месяца назад
Yup, the Mimic can change his size in order to fit into suits accordingly, and also swap damaged body parts. As for the Burntrap suit, he might've removed it after Princess Quest 4 in HW2. Maybe he stopped mimicking William after Vanessa crushes Glitchtrap, but I'm not sure.
@Rajd_is
@Rajd_is 3 месяца назад
1:53 Not really. Because the main "argument" for PQ ending was Free Vanny and a sword in Arcade machine in Vanny's hideout However Help Wanted 2 shows that this might not be the case, because to free Vanny we had to defeat ALL games about this princess, and HW2 reveals that part 3 wasn't the last one
@sambar2772
@sambar2772 3 месяца назад
Nice Spring Bonnie mod you got there ;)
@Mr.Spade1
@Mr.Spade1 Месяц назад
Personally I thought that Burntrap was just Springtrap’s remains that Vanny had put back together and put Glitchtrap into, but I like this theory too.
@cenobittten
@cenobittten 3 месяца назад
A very convincing theory. I like how you went over the evidence. Personally I disagree because the endoskeleton torsos are so very different but I credit your narrative regardless
@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 месяца назад
Glad you enjoyed the Video!
@Pizza-Supremacy
@Pizza-Supremacy 3 месяца назад
The mimic tends to not just switch out costumes, but also switch the endoskeletons. Therefore, this theory is actually a very convincing one.
@Starbear_Ent
@Starbear_Ent 3 месяца назад
The Mimic was described to look like Burntrap's endo in the Tales from the Pizzaplex Epilogues, rabbit ears included. That might convince you
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh 3 месяца назад
The endos being different rlly don't matter when epplouge mimic matches burntrap
@cenobittten
@cenobittten 3 месяца назад
@@Pizza-Supremacy I get your point but the endoskeleton is totally different stylistically. Burntraps is a more modern, springlock suit with comparatively very little metal whereas the game Mimic's is bulky and makeshift and looks like it was built a very long time ago. While I can see a mimic replacing some of its own limbs, short of transferring its head onto a whole new body post-SB (where did it find these older parts?) I just can't see that as a solution. I say this as someone who has read The Mimic and the epilogues (neither of which have the mimic fixing itself or switching parts).
@BlackRaveBow
@BlackRaveBow 3 месяца назад
A big part of me still thinks that they originally meant for Afton to come back and saw the public backlash, then changed it to the mimic between ruin.
@MasterChaosL100
@MasterChaosL100 3 месяца назад
Or. A simple observation. In Ruin, Burntrap's recharge station is still closed. And in the Burntrap ending we clearly see it open in the cutscene for Burntrap to emerge from. Not to mention the fact that the whole Burntrap area is pretty much still in tact as well. So if the recharge station is still closed, that could mean Burntrap never emerged from the recharge station at all. Also if the mimic is the one who made the claw marks, maybe it's the mimic that was roaming around those areas, between the end of Security Breach and Ruin. This can be also be supported by the fact that they only appear in Ruin, and not Security Breach. Since Burntrap didn't make them nor the Mimic during Security Breach.
@crossbraun
@crossbraun 3 месяца назад
Scott also likes environmental storytelling! In the very first game the entire store is hidden behind paper clippings that are only visible in one of the hallway corner cameras.
@gabrielbridge-sp9mq
@gabrielbridge-sp9mq 3 месяца назад
good theory.............BUT if you paid attention burntrap's charging station door was not open. if burntrap IS the mimic and the door opened before the power for it shut off, the door would be wide open. That door was not open. so there is a high chance burntrap is still in there. and as gregory says the mimic has been down there for years. that would have been before burntrap was made cause in ruin Gregory and cassie haven't aged a day. so yes I do think that Gregory knew about burntrap, but he never interacted with it so it would have never been activated. I rest my case for now
@at_witts_end3470
@at_witts_end3470 3 месяца назад
The charging station is empty in Ruin. As well, we see that the door shuts automatically when we play as Gregory. It probably just shut after the mimic left it.
@gabrielbridge-sp9mq
@gabrielbridge-sp9mq 3 месяца назад
@@at_witts_end3470 ok but how would that explain the 2 different head shapes hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
@at_witts_end3470
@at_witts_end3470 3 месяца назад
@@gabrielbridge-sp9mq there isn't 2 different head shapes. One has a human skull on it, covering the head. The other is just the Endo head, with a bit of bone attached.
@gabrielbridge-sp9mq
@gabrielbridge-sp9mq 3 месяца назад
@@at_witts_end3470 thing is.........that isn't bone on the mimic that is dirt
@syweb2
@syweb2 3 месяца назад
0:50 His eyes seem to be unique as far as I can tell, given that they aren't open in the front and have a little indented ring on the flat part. 1:20 They could use _literally any Glamrock endo_ for that, it doesn't have to be Bonnie. They have plenty to spare, and Vanny clearly has been down to the Endo Nursery before, she can just grab a few spare parts and be on her way. 6:08 Okay, that's a pretty nice catch! I don't think anyone else has pointed that out, as far as I've seen. 7:45 If JTop in his interview with FuhNaff is to be believed, then MXES is _oooold,_ so it probably predates Vanessa and Gregory's involvement by a couple decades - or at least, the original machine does. 10:23 It's also literally the _only piece that matches._ If they really wanted the Mimic to also be Burntrap, I'd think they'd at least make them a bit more similar, since they already have Burntrap as a base. Ruin's other characters have differences that are explainable, like Roxy's extra "endo" bits visibly being attached outside of her actual endo, or Monty's extra tooth probably coming from some spare parts, but the Mimic has virtually nothing in common with Burntrap _except_ that one hand. I remain unconvinced. This comes down to what each person values in theorymaking, though, and I applaud the research.
@chewy99.
@chewy99. 3 месяца назад
Dang bruh I wanted the actual William Afton not the mimic…
@dant3_rodant395
@dant3_rodant395 2 месяца назад
William coming back would be extremely lame tho
@chewy99.
@chewy99. 2 месяца назад
@@dant3_rodant395 Why tho he’s the main character and he’s been through the whole story. He’s the scariest one in the series. The mimic isn’t even a ghost, it’s just an unconscious ai.
@dant3_rodant395
@dant3_rodant395 2 месяца назад
@@chewy99. he’s not the main character he was the main antagonist, there is no main character in fnaf the closest thing was Michael afton who’s also presumably dead, William isn’t the scariest in the series, and the concept of the mimic is millions times better than William coming back for the 100th time
@chewy99.
@chewy99. 2 месяца назад
@@dant3_rodant395 Main antagonist, same thing basically. Remember what he says… “I always come back”.
@dant3_rodant395
@dant3_rodant395 2 месяца назад
@@chewy99. main antagonist isn’t the same thing as main character, also he may very well still be alive, he could be kept alive by the vengeful spirit in ucn but more likely than not, hes dead and wont come back
@RayzWay-0109
@RayzWay-0109 25 дней назад
What I believe is burn-trap is a mix of old parts including a corpse using a little bit of afton's flesh thrown together by vanny after she was hypnotized by glitchtrap.
@eljasson100mugman
@eljasson100mugman 3 месяца назад
Burntrap is Mimic. In epilogue 7 of Tales From the pizzaplex it is mentioned that Mimic puts on a rat suit and also in Ruin we see animal suits (mimic like the rat suit and so on). That means that Mimic changed suits as we see in Ruin, Lucia in epilogue 8 turns off Mimic and we assume that Vanny activates it again since Glitchtrap is the Mimic_1 program (the one that appears in Tiger Rock, The Monty Within and GGY ) activates it and Mimic enters the recharging cabin and here we have everything (Mimic changing his suit), possibly when Blood swallowed Burntrap possibly Mimic put on his suit imitating William, his original design is shown and we have Ruin's Gameplay .
@Commander_Doom442nd
@Commander_Doom442nd 2 месяца назад
William loosing more and more of himself as the story progresses is kind of sad with no background
@andreix4025
@andreix4025 2 месяца назад
This isn t willam
@blueiron_yt
@blueiron_yt 3 месяца назад
TLDR: Burntrap is the mimic
@M.animatiom
@M.animatiom 3 месяца назад
No
@youngkingdav
@youngkingdav 3 месяца назад
No
@Toniejira7801
@Toniejira7801 3 месяца назад
On google it says the mimic is david Murray and sometimes Afton himself
@__ocean_arts__
@__ocean_arts__ 3 месяца назад
Plz dont go to google for info. Google is the same thing that says c.c is "chris" and a fallen angel 😂​@@Toniejira7801
@TomatoTrap-kj4yw
@TomatoTrap-kj4yw 2 месяца назад
Yes
@The_Foreman
@The_Foreman 3 месяца назад
I'd like to make the counter that gregory was never in the mimic's room (at least during the luring), it was just his voice through the walkie talkie, and that his backpack was placed next to the vent to convince burntrap that he had crawled through.
@half-lifescientist5184
@half-lifescientist5184 3 месяца назад
might as well put in my own piece for this Debate, being that Burntrap is still Afton, and that the Mimic wouldn't bother with pretending to be him, as it gives itself no advantages. Burntrap is still Afton, as there would be no ways the Mimic could know EXACTLY where parts for Springbonnie, Springlock Endoskeletons, NOR Afton's Corpse would be, as well as finding and getting a charging pod functional, along with having LITERALLY just Glitchtrap's ability to control tech practically just ported over. On top of this, The Mimic LITERALLY wouldn't have any help to piece everything together, as Vanny(controlled or not) either wouldn't or couldn't help them, with the wouldn't being in the case you believe Glitchtrap is Afton, and the Couldn't being the case that you believe Glitchtrap is the Mimic(for whatever dumb reason). The Mimic wouldn't bother with pretending to be him, because the Mimic and Afton are POLAR Opposites. Afton's patient, methodical, and efficient while the Mimic only ever thinks in the short-term, is Impatient, and only ever Mimics as a Means to an End. They'd get NO Advantages, and, in fact, it'd be LESS Advantageous if they were to mimic Afton as Burntrap, as they'd be sitting in the backline, doing nothing. On top of this, there's plentiful reason as to why Burntrap COULDN'T be the Mimic, while the only evidence towards Burntrap truly NOT being Afton being "The Mimic's an Old Animatronic, so the Data they pulled for HW CLEARLY belonged to the Mimic!" and "Afton died like, 8 times by now, there's no way he'll come back again!" despite the former being debunked literally by just understanding the timeline, and the later being just flat opinions. here's some extra stuff to add onto my case here just to cover some other bases. 1. The Mimic has only shown the ability to control machines in the scope of making lights flicker, and that's really just about it. 2. Springbonnie(and Afton by extension) has been company property of Fredbear's/Fazbear's significantly longer than the Mimic, and would make more sense to use THEIR code for the Pathing, Routines, and Models than some rusty, pieced-together robot. 3. It's shown that the Mimic is impatient through how it mimics Gregory, not being like Gregory actually is, but instead impatient and kinda whiney, all things considered, and it mimicking as a means to an end through literally the entire story of Ruin. 4. The Mimic would've just killed Vanny if they WERE Glitchtrap, and also wouldn't have stayed down there if Burntrap WAS the Mimic, unless a dramatic amount of people go down there on a regular basis. 5. Burntrap's movements are TOO Human for it to be the Mimic at work there, even for an advanced machine. And unless the Mimic spent years studying Limping, Feeble old men so that they can walk 10x slower and do their job less efficiently, I don't think it'd be doing that any time soon. 6. The Mimic is still, JUST a Machine. There's no Soul, no thoughts, just Do This in order to Achieve This, except the "Action" is most often "Mimic" and the Outcome is most often "To harm people", as it was taught Violence and to harm people, and it's goal is/was to disassemble. It won't care to stay in a sinkhole to wait for a single child to go down there once so it can hack into a different robot with abilities they don't have to kill them, they'd just rush people down and kill them. 7. Though the hand does line up, literally not a single other part lines up, from the extremely-vital torso and head, to the admittedly less-vital legs and arms. While sure, the Mimic might replace faulty pieces, I don't see how they could manage to literally replace their entire torso and head without destroying themselves in the process. Feel free to do whatever with this unreasonably large info-dump on why the funny Corpse Rabbit man in the quirky Robot game is a Serial Killer and not a Violent Machine.
@Dipa7659
@Dipa7659 3 месяца назад
Brotha you cooked i 100% agree with everything
@F3lipe-u8x
@F3lipe-u8x 3 месяца назад
You forgot to mention that Gregory is very good at hacking and also a bit of mechanics, it is quite possible that Gregory messed with Mxes and helped Vanessa
@cobbygamer17
@cobbygamer17 2 месяца назад
Shake your screen at 5:16
@teo_does_transition
@teo_does_transition Месяц назад
wtf
@crazypro715
@crazypro715 Месяц назад
@@teo_does_transitionwhat what is it
@robek-qf3st
@robek-qf3st Месяц назад
@@crazypro715rick astley
@crazypro715
@crazypro715 Месяц назад
@@robek-qf3st oh
@AloneTheorist
@AloneTheorist 3 месяца назад
As of Ruin, the underground was undergoing renovation. This was pointed out by Helpi, which explains why there's nothing there, the renovation work and eventual sealing of the mimic caused all viable fazbear property to be removed from that area, hence the many construction materials, tools and access routes passed through to reach there. Also help wanted 2 had a cutscene that appeared to show burntrap's pod before a mob of nightmare staffbots turn the player's character into maskbot. Meaning burntap still has a canon element even if his ending isn't.
@jolo6051
@jolo6051 3 месяца назад
I gotta say, you need more attention. You're underrated. And to me, Burntrap was just Glitchtrap being brought into the real world. We know Vanny worked under the control of Glitchtrap (which is either an entity using the Mimic's programming or an extension of the Mimic itself) and we know that Vanny went down into Freddy's Pizza Place several times. My guess was that she was building Burntrap out of the original corpse and several parts from within Pizzaplex animatronics. This body was created for Glitchtrap to take control over, which it does in the Burntrap ending, as signalled by Burntrap's purple eyes. That's how we know it isn't Afton since his eyes are silver while one of the most striking things about seeing Glitchtrap in Help Wanted and Security Breach was his glowing purple eyes. We get further confirmation this is the case since in one of the HW2 endings we see Glitchtrap coming out of a recharging pod, not too dissimilar to Burntrap exiting his pod in SB which kind of just further sements the idea. And it would make sense if this Mimic program mimicking Afton would tell Vanny to do this. After all, what better way to immitate William Afton than to actually use parts from the ORIGINAL William Afton? But the theory you posted holds more weight too as in the books it is stated that the Mimic can shapeshift its endoskeleton to fit any costume, meaning it could very well shapeshift to become Burntap. But there's still a very high possibility that Burntrap is just Glitchtrap's way of being brought into the real world. But if both these possibilities are equally likely considering there is substantial evidence to say that Burntrap is the Mimic and that Glitchtrap was using Burntrap to come into the real world as a physical entity, then we are left with the idea that the Mimic and Glitchtrap are one in the same. But... they're not. At least not at first glance. I personally think that Glitchtrap was working with the original Mimic since Glitchtrap is using the same or similar software. The Mimic is kind of using an extension of itself that just HAPPENS to be mimicking Afton to control the Pizzaplex and help it escape. Plus, if Glitchtrap is immitating Afton and the Mimic is programmed to essentially spread mindless violence, then that would kind of mean that both Glitchtrap and the Mimic's goals align pretty well in terms of motive and I think both entities are smart enough to know how to work together. But then, as seen in HW2, Vanny gets rid of Glitchtrap, thereby freeing herself and cutting off the Mimic's control over the Pizzaplex and everything in it. But I don't think Glitchtrap was just killed off. I think that Glitchtrap was REPURPOSED. My headcanon at the moment is that Vanny's crushing of Glitchtrap is symbolic of Glitchtrap's programming being removed and I believe that what was left of the Glitchtrap program actually became the MXES program. After all, it takes the form of a bluish-purple rabbit and has a great deal of control over the digitial world and can influence the animatronics to act, similar to Glitchtrap did. And I think the way it looks is more evidence of that. It looks more like a ghost that's broken up, representative of how Glitchtrap was essentially taken apart to be reused and I don't doubt that Vanessa or Gregory could reprogram it to do this and it could have all been done with that MXES machine we see down in the basement. Plus, the way it moves in contrast to Glitchtrap is further evidence of this. Glitchtrap in Help Wanted starts off moving very jittery and laggy but then becomes smoother and more realistic as we piece him together and his final form looks realistic and human-like, showing its development. And then there's MXES which still takes the basic form of a rabbit but is now much more digitised with a less defined model and it moves in a laggy and broken state. And we know that the MXES program that was formally Glitchtrap can be controlled as we see it become trapped inside the machine in RUIN, showing just how much it has lost its power and is now restricted to its security nodes. So I don't think Glitchtrap is GONE, I just think that he was reprogrammed after essentially having all the power stripped from him in SB with Princess Quest. He is now repourpsed to hide the very thing that he might have been working with. After all, it's just a program. Once you delete some code, you're left with a blank slate. What better way to deal with an enemy than to make it your ally? After all, Glitchtrap as a Mimic program was only doing what it was programmed to do - mimic whatever it was exposed to which was Afton. But THE Mimic? It as a physical entity and being a much older piece of technology from decades ago is not so easily controlled. But what do you think?
@SQUIRSEE98
@SQUIRSEE98 3 месяца назад
Its funny that everyone is talking about burntrap being the mimic but none are talking about how the blob is trying to destroy burntrap
@funtimefredboi4456
@funtimefredboi4456 3 месяца назад
I really enjoy the concept of The Mimic honestly.... I really didn't feel like dealing with Rotten British Rabbit anymore....
@andreix4025
@andreix4025 3 месяца назад
The funny thing is we thought se were Still dealing with those since 2017,but yeah the devs Got up hand on that
@Mickeymousevr-puppet
@Mickeymousevr-puppet 2 месяца назад
3:18 The tangle…? I thought everyone called it “the blob” because we already have a “tangle” which is a green and orange mangle from the game : fnaf world
@ripeverythingout
@ripeverythingout 2 месяца назад
The tangle is a name used for it in the files for security breach. The blob was confirmed to not be it’s canon name in a guidebook, but it’s still officially recognised.
@wilymoto6501
@wilymoto6501 3 месяца назад
The Burntrap model was one of the first to be designed, and Burntrap and The Mimic are almost nothing alike. The Mimic bears the same resemblance to Burntrap as it does to Nightmare Chica.
@wafagdplqs4421
@wafagdplqs4421 3 месяца назад
Considering the Mimic is both an endoskeleton AND an IA programme. I believe Burntrap (and by extension Glitchtrap) is just a version of the Mimic programme used to mimic Afton and Burntrap's body is a combiantion of a Glamrock endo (the Glamrocks endos being basically modernized Mimics), William burned a d rotten (and definitively dead) corpse, and some of the original Mimic's part. However if we consider the Princess Quest ending as canon, and it seems to be the case, this project of giving Glitchtrap a physical body wasn't completed because Vanessa was freed from his influence. At least that's my interpretation of it all.
@VOgaming51official
@VOgaming51official 3 месяца назад
burntrap has a few things from nightmare animatronics, like a few of n.BB's fingers and...well, the hands. the only similarity I can definatively see between the two is that one hand, and even then there's a difference. Also, I'm pretty sure the mimic model is taller than burntrap anyway. The mimic's head is also to big to fit into burntrap's mask without clipping, let alone fit in the skull. The demeanor between the two is also extremly different. Through out ruin the mimic is shown to be impaitient, sure he's using Gregory's voice but he doesn't become Gregory, which is what the theory of burntrap = mimic hinges on. Afton finally dying after that "boss fight" would be fine if it felt like more. Granted, I wouldn't mind him being a background presence from then on, but that's the writers'/writer's choice. Hell, mimic being burntrap would've been fine (to me) if it made sense, character, design, and story wise. anyway, sorry for ranting. TL;DR: mimic being burntrap doesn't make sense because ruin shows us he wouldn't change his personality just his voice. Also, the mimic model is to big to fit into burntrap.
@AustinPlayzNothing
@AustinPlayzNothing 3 месяца назад
Where did you hear burntrap was one of the first to be designed
@Starbear_Ent
@Starbear_Ent 3 месяца назад
The Mimic was described like Burntrap's endo in the Tales from the Pizzaplex Epilogues, rabbit ears included. Most people skip this part because they don't like this reveal.
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh 3 месяца назад
Burntrap is a huge asset flip. He doesnt rlly matter
@Toaster844
@Toaster844 3 месяца назад
The lore in the newer FNAF games has so much going on I can’t tell even tell what is going on. Especially the whole thing with Burntrap and the Mimic
@sophitiaofhyrule
@sophitiaofhyrule 3 месяца назад
I don't dislike the concept of the Mimic. With how AI is dangerously growing currently, a monster that's an AI is a terrifying concept. But I hate that the Mimic retcons Glitchtrap and Burntrap. "It was an AI all along" seems like a desperate attempt at satisfying critics who got frustrated at Afton coming back. Also Glitchtrap and Mimic don't act the same at all... Glitchtrap can possess people and is smart and calculated, while the Mimic is impulsive and blows his cover almost immediately. The current story of FNAF sucks ass and I hate it, which is a shame because I like some of the elements a lot (The Pizzaplex, Vanny/Vannessa, Gregory, Cassie and the Glamrocks to name a few). It reeks of the writers just making stuff up as they went along. Nothing is clear, nothing makes sense, nothing means anything and anything can be retconned at any moment.
@paul-burger8269
@paul-burger8269 3 месяца назад
Its not a retcon baby....
@andreix4025
@andreix4025 3 месяца назад
Its was never a retcon all the hints in games were pointing to the mimic
@namesmitt
@namesmitt 3 месяца назад
I was wrong = It was a retcon
@andreix4025
@andreix4025 3 месяца назад
@@namesmitt wasent
@vnmememan8657
@vnmememan8657 3 месяца назад
@@paul-burger8269it is
@LeoONeill-r2e
@LeoONeill-r2e Месяц назад
Well this just makes more sense
@Kammy_dafox
@Kammy_dafox 3 месяца назад
You can not convince me that Mimic and Burntrap are the same entity. LOOK AT THEM. And, Mimic acts nothing like William.
@Ледянаяимперия
@Ледянаяимперия 3 месяца назад
Gregory literally drew burntrap as Mr. Beast 2:28
@l_herobrine_l2762
@l_herobrine_l2762 3 месяца назад
The mimic and burntrap CANNOT be the same. There are too many physical discrepancies.
@TheStarlingGuy
@TheStarlingGuy 3 месяца назад
Springtrap and Scraptrap
@AHumagen
@AHumagen 3 месяца назад
​@@TheStarlingGuy you have a point
@_C_Boy_
@_C_Boy_ Месяц назад
I feel like the answer is much simpler. Burntrap is Scraptrap refurbished by Vanny. She was under control of Glitchtrap so its pretty reasonable to think he told her "repair my arms and body", not to mention the purples, the rabbits, the file name saying Afton, the fact that Vanny/Vanessa 100% has been to the old pizza place before so had access to scraptraps remains, the only adult corpse in a suit we know of in the genre is from William Afton, the fact that GlamFreddy knows him and doesnt like him (Henry/Michael GlamFreddy Theory)... There is too much evidence pointing to Burntrap just being a continuation of the character; Springtrap->Scraptrap->Afton gets scanned into Fazbear tech->Glitchtrap->Glitchtrap controls Vanny->Vanny repairs whats left of Scraptrap->Remnant repairs organic flesh->Burntrap is born and secured in the Pizza Place ruins. Who is the ONLY adult corpse we know that was inside an animatronic? William Afton.
@TheStarlingGuy
@TheStarlingGuy Месяц назад
The file name for the ending doesn't say Afton actually, it just says "Burntrap_Ending". Also "Afton getting scanned into VR" only works if he possesses circuit boards which Scraptrap... obviously wouldn't have. And during one of the first teasers for VR there was included an image for an endo head titled "0Rg1N" (or something like that) and then in the first Epilogue for Tales we are introduced to Mimic who has burned body and a shiny new head which implies something happened to theirs previous one. I think you see the implications. To sorta add onto that GlamFred knowing Burntrap can be explained... by the fact that he was used to clear the way. Also if he's running/has some variation of Mimic1 then that could explain the lines "I found myself" and the infamous "I AM NOT ME".
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh Месяц назад
The files NEVER said afton where are you getting this from.
@canyouhearmehellocanyouhearme
@canyouhearmehellocanyouhearme 3 месяца назад
thats cool, but if they make glitchtrap being the mimic ill quit the game
@Starfallsupersonic
@Starfallsupersonic 3 месяца назад
So uh Glitchtrap mimics The silver parasol logo Tape girl Bonbon And glam rockFreddy, getting jumped in the bad ending of VR 2 And also mimicking the ending of Princess quest 3 in princess quest 4 Steelwood interview also confirms that vanny kill him so that means he’s not a soul It might be over bro
@AustinPlayzNothing
@AustinPlayzNothing 3 месяца назад
Glitch trap was already pretty much confirmed to be the mimic
@Starfallsupersonic
@Starfallsupersonic 3 месяца назад
@@AustinPlayzNothing yeah Vanny kills glitchtrap in vr2 according to steel wool in the interview That’s basically glitch mimic confirmation because how is Vanny supposed to kill a soul?
@TheJonkler1
@TheJonkler1 3 месяца назад
@@Starfallsupersonic I mean not really.The last remains could've escaped and turned into Helpi but Helpitrap is kind of a slippery slope
@TheStarlingGuy
@TheStarlingGuy 2 месяца назад
​@@TheJonkler1Sorta unrelated but I find kinda weird that one of the main evidence for Helpytrap was that when Glitchtrap dies Helpy also disappear's, but when JTop confirmed that Glitchtrap is dead is was suddenly evidence against it.
@TheMetalRiot
@TheMetalRiot 3 месяца назад
Lil bit off topic but I think the mimic could be a really cool antagonist. A few things I’d hope is for 1)Steel wool make the future games’ atmosphere a lot less cartoony (Ruin is an improvement) 2) Steel Wool Drop Afton with this new timeline, his story is about paranormal stuff and ended with pizza sim. 3) Make the mimic a real scary threat in future games. The mimic is actually a pretty cool idea that I hope they don’t drop the ball with.
@andreix4025
@andreix4025 3 месяца назад
You do know that Mimic is already the antagonist of previous games
@TheMetalRiot
@TheMetalRiot 3 месяца назад
@@andreix4025 yeah. I’m just saying I hope they don’t drop the ball with this.
@andreix4025
@andreix4025 3 месяца назад
@@TheMetalRiot i hope so too, litterlly his full epirence gave me the chills,leading to a chase made my hear stand up even more,and if you read the books your hair woud stand up even more
@daviddimitrov3696
@daviddimitrov3696 3 месяца назад
OMG! Burntrap is NOT the mimic, I'm SO TIRED of all these people literally saying things that are clearly wrong, the mimic and burntrap don't even look alike at all, screw the arm all the rest of the endo doesn't fit and the teeth aren't the same, besides the mimic would not have SEEN afton to mimic him and the mimic's head would NOT fit in that corpse head.
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh 3 месяца назад
1. Mimic can change his sizes to fit in any suit and corpse 2. The teeth are covered by the corpse 3. Springtrap and Scraptrap look nothing alike yet there the same
@daviddimitrov3696
@daviddimitrov3696 3 месяца назад
@@Sing87eh still the mimic can't just fit in a corpse and still would have no way to observe a man who'se been dead for who knows how long
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh 3 месяца назад
@@daviddimitrov3696 hw is about afton mimic was put in there then starts mimcking. Mimic can just fit into a corpse by resizing his body
@at_witts_end3470
@at_witts_end3470 3 месяца назад
​@@daviddimitrov3696Mimic was around since the early year of FE, and there's even some hints he had a role in FNaF 2, 4, SL, and the Fall Fest fire. There's a part where the mimic crawls into someone's back like a mascot costume in the books.
@Under_Score
@Under_Score 3 месяца назад
Y’all forget the mimic can shapeshift and definitely could fit into the the corpse
@Takejiro24
@Takejiro24 3 месяца назад
8:55 Either the arm being modeled that way was because it was replaced as you said or it was for when it eventually will get cut off in the elevator ending of Ruin.
@chibk
@chibk 3 месяца назад
modern fnaf is actually so underrated😭the way the story is told is so peak
@sophitiaofhyrule
@sophitiaofhyrule 3 месяца назад
No...
@TomatoTrap
@TomatoTrap 3 месяца назад
Fr actually
@TomatoTrap
@TomatoTrap 3 месяца назад
@@sophitiaofhyrule yes
@SunkDaMunk
@SunkDaMunk 3 месяца назад
It’s not like the 2nd game contradicts the whole lore of the series lol
@Jedi-ge6lr
@Jedi-ge6lr 3 месяца назад
@@SunkDaMunk Elaborate.
@The-amazing-speaker
@The-amazing-speaker 2 месяца назад
I have a theory that because of Gregory seeing the other animatronics he had them stuck in his mind then he mixed them together and like you said “glamrock endo” “glamrock freddy” the bunny parts being from Vanny he mixed them together to create burntrap
@jorgyt754
@jorgyt754 3 месяца назад
burntrap is william afton you cannot change my mind.
@Sing87eh
@Sing87eh 3 месяца назад
He's the .mimic
@theraptorblue6675
@theraptorblue6675 3 месяца назад
bro,even games tell you,william dead,forget him already,afton lover
@Personian
@Personian 3 месяца назад
Bro would still be in denial if Scott himself said Burntrap wasn’t Afton
@ZacharyWaldo
@ZacharyWaldo 3 месяца назад
@@Personianfr
@ZacharyWaldo
@ZacharyWaldo 3 месяца назад
People need to accept the facts the mimic is both burntrap and glitchtrap now
@darealdreamlessdude
@darealdreamlessdude 3 месяца назад
I KNEW BURNTRAP WAS THE MIMIC! BUT NOBODY BELIEVED ME 😭 Lmfao
@Chicken1997
@Chicken1997 3 месяца назад
I really like this theory, and I think it might be canon. But, if Burntrap was really the Mimic (Which I would be happy about because that makes Fnaf 6 relevant to the timeline) how would we add all the human corpse stuff? How could he fit a whole gosh darn skull on his head?
@MrNiceGuy249
@MrNiceGuy249 2 месяца назад
Personally, i think that using The mimic, they had retconned Burntrap and glitchtrap by making Burntrap not real and glitchtrap probably being the mimic mimicing William afton (i dont know if this is really related but decided to throw it out there)
@andreix4025
@andreix4025 2 месяца назад
You were on a point
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