How Scratch Golf Looks According to the Stats 

Hi Playa excellent. Keep on keeping on I understand I had similar the last couple years for months at a time including struggling to get out of bed. Some serious scheisse happening in life. I don't like when people recommend too much what 'helped them' because we are all different but I can safely say that reframing my brain has kept the bad juju away. I read REFRAME YOUR BRAIN by SCOTT ADAMS and I have hacked my brain from getting into those dark places for too long.

@@GolfSidekick Thank you Matt, much appreciated.

Keep going mate

This might be more valuable than getting better at golf!

​@@Choubob Scott Adams books are immense. Reframing your views on everything is crazy powerful

Playa if you've been around golf and gotten any wisdom in golf, it's clear. No lost balls Play inside your ability Assess the lie Aim for your shot shape AND CHIP AND PUTT YOUR LITTLE ARSE OFF!

@@GolfSidekickThis!

John Daly and Bill Bryson Dechsmpane were or are two of the longest drivers on tour and they won far fewer majors between them than Nick Faldo and Gary Playya.

@@marksimpson2321 lol. what a dumb comparison

@@marksimpson2321 Bill Bryson writes a good book to be fair

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Good thinking playa Waddalife and wadda confidentiality

Get ur own patter fs

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I'm glad I'm not the only one that is completely lost when anyone starts talking about strokes gained and lost.

Your loss... Read the book. It was written by a recreational golfer in order to improve with the least amount of effort.

Francois here getting all sorts of triggered because his religion is coming into question

totally agree. I love his videos however I think strokes gained is the secret for alot of single digits to get to scratch. The prob is a lot of people don’t understand strokes gained and take low percentage shots to hit it further.

I like what you said. You came to rely on them. Anything that gives you confidentiality is good.

Yeah people think they out there on the tour. I track it exactly the same as you

Precisely playa. For putting we only have pga tour starts that are actually accurate. Nothing really for amateurs because the tech is not accurate. But could we say that for us amateurs a nice 6 footer up hill is gonna be more makeable than a downhill 6 footer with 3 inches of break? YES INDEED! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-4yuA0bfLN3k.htmlsi=c8QEW5GUnqi9UjKX

good, not just me then

Nice playa, good luck! Let us know how it goes. Keep that Stimp hand Strong and put the pitches in their place

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Brodie invented SG for himself (a 6 hcp at the time) to know what to work on in the limited time a math/finance professor has. Anyone with brains can now use the same information not to "play a certain way" but identify what they're not doing as well as the average of players of a certain handicap (SG is not just against PGA tour) and understand where the score is being made. Idiots and entertainers on TV or the interwebs may not get it, but it's a godsend for every player, of every level... provided they use it as it should. It should be fairly obvious that you're more likely to make a putt if it's shorter rather than longer. It's more likely that your ball ends closer to the hole if you play it from a closer location, and you get to a closer location if you driver long (and in play). Quantifying that and seeing how it works respective to your game is what SG gives... Read the book.

Here’s the best part about strokes gained. Your app tells you what to work on. But doesn’t tell you how. So you just end up going for lessons. Here’s a way to skip all this wankery. Go for lessons. And practice. No matter what your app tells you, you are gonna have to do those two things. SG on the app tells you youre weak in these areas: Driving: practice driving. Approach: practice irons. Chipping: practice chipping. Putting: practice putting. Deep. Only idiots and entertainers on RU-vid will tell you this: Idiotic strokes gained by RU-vidr idiot: These are very obvious you don’t need to have sensors to tell you. If you’re 3 putting more than one per round, work on speed control putting to a tee in the ground. Minimum one hour per week. If you’re three putting or missing short putts, or both, practice 1 foot putts. Make 100 in a row three days a week. If you’re losing balls off the tee, take the driver out the bag and go for a lesson. Begin to understand your distance and shot shape so you can aim better to avoid losing balls. If you need distance, Go for a lesson. Don’t buy a new driver yet. If your approach play suck’s and you not hitting greens, maybe it’s your bad drive. Pick a tee club that gets you in play. 200 yards is plenty until you learn the driver at lessons. Then learn to aim properly. Account for your shot shape. Aim to something left if you fade. Something right if you draw. Do this approach. Identify the short side and hit the ball to the fat side. That will improve where your finish in relation to the green, for chipping and putting and pitching. Avoid the short side. Work on toe down chipping. Try chip to inside 6 feet and increase your chance of up and down to 50% or more by doing that. Practice your short game three hours for every hour on long game. Visualize. Create a pre shot routine that is consistent. You get these religious zealots who get very nasty because they know they’ve been sold a bill of rotten goods with this strokes gained nonsense. All they had to do was take lessons

Yeah, same here!

lol lol strokes gained wanking watching rgc psige springnac +10

Learned to hit them on the beach when i was 13

Nah, I don't really care much for the strokes gained. I like the expecttion management xxx distance off the tee is 0 strokes gained to a scratch PGA Tour putting percentages water -1.5 ob -2.0 fairway bunker -0.5 rough -0.25 +20 yards +0.1 in the trees +1.0 xx feet Proximity to the hole from every distance 0 strokes gained to a scratch shows you what is a good shot vs what you expect is a good shot

@@GolfSidekick Excellent points. Thx for doing the video.

Hmmm that situation i was luckily in my comfort zone at that distance with that wedge or 9 iron. So it was easy. But if it were less comfy like a tight tee shot on a long par 4, i just gear down to the go to club of the go to club. Just something im automatic with. Then i get some space after that shot to collect myself. Bitch and moan for a good 2 minute walk then boom back in the process. It’s over. Any repurcussion must be dealt with by the course since it’s their issue. Back in the process. The next hole, i had to stick with the scratch length tee shot. But i wanted to hit a big driver. I took that annoyed energy and stuck it into committing to the big driver mentally. Thats why i hit that mini driver so bad. If i hit the big driver, that hole finishes with a par. Then by the next hole, i was playing normal again forgot about that guy.

@@GolfSidekick Love that, allow the moaning for a bit then back to the process. Thank you sir!!

Shot Pattern?

Butterfly. This time of year there are a lot

You don't have to compare to a tour pro. If your handicap is 25, you can compare to a 20 handicap to see where you are losing or gaining strokes. Then you know where it is easiest to improve your game.

Let’s say your app tells you that you need to work on ‘approach’ or ‘driving’ because you lose the most strokes to a 20 handicap. For a 25 handicap who has limited knowledge, how would they do that? Smash buckets of balls at the range trying to add distance? Do they know that for every 10 yards added, an increase of 5% dispersion makes the new distance not worth it? Maybe buy a new driver? Lets say it’s a 14 handicap comparing with a 10. The 14 handicap is ‘losing strokes gained’ to a 10 in putting. What does he do to get better? Practice? Do we need an app to tell us that we should not three putt 5 times a round? All roads, regardless of handicap lead to the solution which you could do without getting involved with strokes gained: LESSONS. Either that, or a new driver. No one really needs an app to tell them to go get lessons and practices

Then you understand Strokes Gained Tiger Woods style immediately maboi. No need to watch. Back to rest and relaxation

Yes sir and then when you know your StRoKeS GaInEd in the app like arccos or shotscope...what is their suggestion to imrpove that area? Do they give any helpful suggestions? Everything leads to.....LESSONS. Because as far as I can see, there is an easy way to skip Strokes Gained in an app altogether. Get lessons and then you don't need to have a sensor tell you that your chipping sucks and you're losing 6 balls a round off the tee. LOL I could have told anyone that for free

@@GolfSidekick you know I don’t look at strokes gained. But I do religiously look at the data behind strokes gained. My GIR% and proximity to the hole by distance category and my distance to the hole on short game and up/down%. I’ve improved my 25-50 yard short game dramatically with a couple of drills I do.

I also know that you are an anomaly. You really do get It and use data being the percentages. Your the ultimate strokes gained Target and you use it wisely. Love chatting to you on Facebook

@@GolfSidekick The biggest problems the tracking apps face is that they just tally your averages. Anyone who's studied probability and statistics knows that you can't characterize a process (golf swing) using just a single parameter. You need to know the shape of the distribution. My average SG driving to a scratch golfer is roughly 0. However, if you actually take a deep dive and look at the distribution instead of just the average, you'll see it's bimodal. I still need to work on my driving (or course management) because about 10-20% of the time I'll hit a gawd awful drive into Narnia. So, strokes gained tells me my drives are good, on average. But they're not really.

well, that and GIGO is a real thing....

I was on the par 3, about the 6th hoel or something, dude tees up on the hole, hits 3 balls in the water, i'm like WTF. I got 4 people behind me. If he wanted to cut in, he should have cut in on hole 9 or start on 10. Usually it's just common sense. If you're gonna be slow, wait at a par 3 to let people through. If you're gonna be quick, skip 2 holes ahead of a 2 ball, 1 hole ahead of a 4 ball

Where is the raw data? Everyone quotes this but no one has access to the raw data. The individual course’s and holes and player profiles. Which courses? What do those holes look like? Is it links? Parkland? Municipal? Manicured? Resort? Florida? Midwest? Jungle? Tight? Generous? Hilly? Flat? Blind shots? ‘20+ handicaps going for par 5 in two?’ - let’s just allow that to sit inside our heads for a bit. 450 yards. 20+ handicap. 220 yard drive with a 10 degree driver. They don’t hit it long and straight but let’s give them 220 yards which generous. Dispersion will be 50 yards left or right at any time. No guarantee of a straight shot at such low loft. 18° or more will give much less dispersion. 230-240 remaining best case scenario. They hit a low lofted 15 degree 3 wood maybe. Off the ground, how far left and right does shot that go? How long does a 20+ handicap hit that club reliably? 190? Not a high percentage of 20+ handicaps should have it in their bag but they try anyway because of the data, so let’s assume it’s 2 perfect strikes on both shots with 10 degrees of loft and 15 degrees of loft. What is the design of the hole? What happens at 50 yards? Are there bunkers? Fairway bunkers from 50 yards for high handicaps the hole is over. Does the remaining shot finish on a downslope? Is it a raised green? Can they hit partial wedges to raised greens? Does the rough pinch in the fairway? If they top the shot with a three wood, what is in front of them? Are they proficient with a 50 yard partial shot if they get the best case scenario? How often are playing? Do they have situational awareness for the lie? Can they read the lie in the rough on the third shot? So many factors. Lets just say, 20+ handicaps going for par 5 in two is ridiculous on the face of it. Blanket statements do not work in golf. They usually try to hit two perfect high pressure shots because of these stupid blanket statements from the data pole and destroy the score. Accepting that a bogey is a SUPERB score on the par 5 and playing it as a par 6 or par 7 is much more effective. We are trying to reduce big numbers, not trying to make birdies. When 20+ handicap tries to play like a pro, that’s when they stay at 20+ handicap.

@@GolfSidekick thanks for the reply. i've had more success following your advice personally, but always wonder where gaps could be in the knowledge. (i'm a 12 hdcp that can't hit a 3 wood off the deck, so I don't!)

And dingleberries

There is a lot of data not available Putting: innacurate because GPS is not accurate enough to the yard/foot/inch and people are supposed to edit their rounds in the dashbord from memory to insert their putts. Only PGA Tour is accurate and close enough to scratch putting too. Approaches: Number of strokes taken from every distances in the fairway and rough are only available for PGA Tour golfers. Gotta patch it together best we can with the poor data that is out there

Yeah for real bro, what is going on - thots talking politics as bots lol

Exactly

Don’t create conflict in your mind

Bro legit 10 pages

@@GolfSidekick 😂😂😂

surely no-one does that though, do they? SG helps you average out your strengths and weaknesses over many rounds easily, but it isn’t going to help you with course strategy during a round. For example, I’ve worked on chipping a lot more than putting recently because it turns out my putting is generally stronger on average.

lol I hurt it in the gym in December and it hurt now when i started learning tennis. The tennis has actually strengthened the wrist to the point i don’t need the guard anymore.

Friday or Sunday playa Filming it tomorrow

Wow … you say it better than I can!

Bro stop talking dirty to me!!! Most people who claim to be strokes gained maxis don't even use the information anyway. They repeat some line they read somewhere like that "literally millions of data points literally" But when I played golf in Scotland on the links courses in the wind...that's when Strokes Gained made a lot of sense to me. It's for wide American Tour courses, for people playing the same course, four days in a row, against people with very tight skill variations, on courses selected for TV. For the average man? Just get some lessons, get a better impact position and strike. The ball goes straighter and knock on effect, distanc eincreases because of the STRIKE. Also putting stats are all hogwash on those arccos and shotscope, because no GPS is accurate enough to pick it up. And then you rely on people actually editing every round to inch-accuracy. Impossiblé as the spanish say Wait for my 10 DUMBEST THINGS GOLFERS SAY VIDEO coming soon. You will like it.

@@GolfSidekick The #1 entry would be any sentence that starts with “Let me show you this swing tip I saw on You Tube…”

@@berrberr Yes! It’s amazing how many people don’t understand the concept of “Correlation does not imply causation”