How Shadow Lugia in Pokemon XD Works 

Fun fact, it was made by mangaka Hiromoto SIN-ichi.

@@jensvide777not quite, Hiromoto conceptualized it but the final design was by James Turner

@@bongjovi4928 fuckin love that guy

Did you fill your entire Purification Chamber with Hoppip? I settled for using Pokémon that already existed in the game, so it never occurred to me to use a bunch of Pokémon who were effective against themselves.

@@WriterKing92I mean Hoppip already exists in XD as well, but it'd take so much more effort to catch 36 Hoppip than it would be to just try out the Pokemon you already have.

@@WriterKing92 Yup. I just hatched a bunch of them in the GBA games to max the chamber out without having to think about it. 😂

I literally did the same thing with hoppip lol. I remember I had friends asking me how I did this & I loved every minute of having Lugia in my Gen 3 games

Really was a weird call in Go to not make Apex Shadow Lugia use this design.

This version was renamed dark Lugia if I remember correctly. I wish they would've used it in go. It would have been so much more interesting.

@@delta5287 It's called Dark Lugia in Japanese too, and Shadow Pokémon are called Dark Pokémon. Team Cipher is called Team Shadow.

I wouldn't want in in just GO because it would be stuck there too

Same 😂

I didn't forget, that method was replaced by the purify chamber in XD, she doesn't accept Shadow Pokemon in XD.

Normal walking was also the only method that worked on Lugia. Besides, even then, considering its replaced by the purify chamber, which didn't work on Lugia, I'm fairly certain even if it did still exist, it wouldn't have worked.

@SaltedNeos They removed it???? Never would have guessed. Still, very cool dissertation of a mechanic most people will never see because you have your chamber maxed out like halfway in.

@@lordlouie3550 Realistically no one was using the daycare (the price was ridiculous) so I think it was the right call. I'm not entirely sure if Purify Chamber just replaced Daycare on the Nature chart from Colo, but if yes, removing Daycare meant they didn't need to rebalance all the purification mechanics again to have a 6th method. (Even though, as you said, most people wouldn't bother with any of the others cause the Chamber is OP, unless you're a weirdo like me who just doesn't allow himself to use it in some playthroughs)

@SaltedNeos Daycare can be a godsend in Colosseum on rare occasions. Pokemon with natures that like it drop their gauges much faster than with anything else. On a recent 100% run, I put Hitmontop there when I got it, and by the time I cleared Mt. Battle and got Entei in the story, it was already 90% empty. Costed 7000 to withdraw, but that's not so bad when considering that sprays cost 1200 a pop and usually don't give you nearly the same return on investment. Having finally played XD though I agree it's gonna be hard going back to not having the chamber and spending an extra 15 hours purifying stuff in a game I already beat.

Thanks! I just want a space to talk about the stupid things I try out/discover in the games I play. I'm glad so many people were interested in this topic, cause I wasn't sure how well this was gonna do lol.

@@SaltedNeos you're appealing to the minority crowd like me that stays up at night thinking about the (non-essential) hard hitting topics lmao thank you by the way!

Shadow Blast is Physical though.

Its unfortunate that scalpers and RU-vidrs overhyping these two games made their price point unreasonably high.

Overhyped? More like underhyped also just use an emulator@@SaltedNeos

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​@@mups4016also probably play a rom hack lol

I do datamine some spin offs actually, but I'm not very good at dealing with code. I'm more of a find things in the files kind of guy.

What?

@@Nickbronline its an inside joke lol.

I'm sorry what? I am genuinely more confused every time I reread this comment to try and figure out how to respond.

I was gonna point out that shiny Lugia predates shadow Lugia, but then I remembered that they went out of their way to change shiny Charizard from purple to black, so there really is no excuse

@@GloomdrakeThe era where they redesigned shinies still predates Shadow Lugia, since XD was the last generation 3 Pokemon game. They only did that to a major extent jumping from gen 2 to 3, and most likely not even by choice, the colour palettes were probably different between the gameboy and gameboy advance games to such an extent that they couldn't get all the same shiny designs. They typically just picked a color palette that didn't look glitchy when they made shiny sprites before XY.

​​​@@SaltedNeos3D shinies before XY were also a crapshoot. A lot of Pokémon clearly just had their entire texturemap hues changed instead of properly recolored, leading to Voltorb being really blue even on top, but Electrode being properly half-and-half. The most egregious I think is most Deoxys forms are like, an off-orange, except default form for some reason, which is properly yellow. Like how does that even happen. Also cucumber Digglet

@@NAFEDUDE Again, you're right, but why would they change shiny Lugia in XD to be confusing with the Shadow? Colo/XD/Battle Revolution share shinies.

​​@@SaltedNeos​oh, my point was they were kind of arbitrarily doing it then but there was never a pattern or real reason to it, so it'd have been odd to be like "yes actually the shiny form now references this specific spinoff for some reason"

Just use a modern randomizer, that AR code is insanely glitchy aside from this. One of the shadow Pokemon I got purified to a blank move slot

October 5th, 2005

@@SaltedNeos Nice one!

It's a very old game for the gamecube. Very fun, if you ever get a chance, I recommend playing it or pokemon colosseum ❤