How Similar are Polish and Russian? 

And history

@@regorthejoe7953 you didn't get a joke.

lol I was thinking the same thing.

@@regorthejoe7953 Oh no. The story is just general. =) The interaction was constant. over a thousand years of documented shared history.

😂😂😂😂😂

Why is it easier for you to read our text though? I can't read a word of yours because I don't know cyrillic

@@BritishPolak_303 It's pretty simple. We are Russians, almost since childhood we have been able to read both Cyrillic and Latin, and write them accordingly. Although we use the Latin alphabet for writing in Russian quite rarely, however when we see Polish words, at first it seems to us that it is Russian, just written in strange Latin.

70 and 90, but i've looked Polish TV-shows for children in my childhood (without any knowledge of Polish), when on Russian TV was nothign interesting for a kids. "Domowe przedszkole" etc

​@BritishPolak_303 , I suppose the main point isn't the writing system, but the pronunciation that make even close cognates of our languages sound extremely different. Well, I speak about Polish nasal sounds, "Ł"-sound and a large number of sibillants, fixed stress and other its features. I suppose it works vice versa as I heard a lot of complaints from other Slavs that Russian words sound "pronounced backwards" or something like that. You're welcome to comment what is strange in Russian pronunciation for you. It would be interesting to compare experience from the other side of the language barrier. But the spelling tends to be more conservative than the pronunciation. Also you can read a text several times, so you have more time to figure out the details of the sentence. You can try it yourself: find transliterated Russian text( it's better to find the text that you've read in Polish, so it would be easier to figure out the meaning of the strange words) and I'm convinced that you would understand almost everything

I am reading Polish newspapers pretty comfortably, however it is hard for my ears to get the Polish and, mostly, because of its accent - 'psz' kind of the sound. Otherwise, the Polish language is pretty understandable.

I think that's how it is for most language groups. For instance english and german are germanic, but english has had a lot of French/Latin words that have replaced older germanic words.

@@matthewe3813I mean it more with same language origin, for example russian word друг, we have it too in czech, (druh) but it's very archaic.

as a russian speaker who can speak polish as well I noticed it too! I thought like wow many archaic words in polish are used now in russian and vice versa i also speak slovak and I guess it applies here as well

It's similar for Latin languages. I'm native in both Portuguese and Spanish and I speak Italian too

Also, some words existing in both languages may have opposite meanings :) Though this also is not unique to just Slavic languages. Like "Gift" in English and German.

oh my god it's evfŋyə from agma schwas discord!!!!

This may not be the correct Account but i will still say: DOUBLE YETCH, YETCH ON YETCH CHANNLEEEEEEEE -Tino, L'me :3

Ironically though, Polish kept the slavic names for most months while Russian replaced all of them with latinate names.

evfn!!

@@Hobby-Linguistnot the correct accound XD

I am native Pole and do not know many russian movies, but from childhood I still remember russian cartoon "Wilk i Zając" (I am not sure russian title. Perhaps "Nu pagadi") that was very funny cartoon about adventures of wolf and hare, but relations between them were similar to "Tom and Jerry" (they definitely were not friends). From chidhood also remember scouting adventures with russian scouts together in scouting camp for children and we called it "Pałatka" (Tent). I will never forget that great times. Have a good time and good discoveries :)

@@user-glg20 Oh yeah Ну, Погоди! Loved it. I still remember the taste of coockies and juice I had while watching it lol

Yeah: "долгий" and "długi" are cognates that came from Proto-Slavic *dьlgъ. The word "длинный" looks like an exclusive to East Slavic languages. It came from *dьlinьnъ and actually has the same root with the verb *dьliti, modern (про)длить.

​@@RanmaruReimaybe you meant exclusive for east slavic languages?

Polish uses "długi" for both time and size

@@whoeverest_the_whateverest yes, I meant it. I made a mistake.

I guess долгий could be used for long in size in the past. For example a pond in Dolgoprudny is certainly not долгий because it's long lasting in lime.

Greetings from Poland.

Подскажите хорошие материалы для изучения польского

А, что там учить? Я за день в любой славянский язык вьезжаю, и не понимаю, как их могут не понимать другие, для практики советую на македонском тренироваться, если его поймете, другие славянские языки будут идти гораздо легче. В целом просто нужно к акценту принаровиться, но я на себе проверял. Ни одного славянского языка не учил, и сам без переводчика переводил тексты, речи, и песни. Потом когда появлялся перевод, проверял, и перевод был в целом правильный. Но для этого нужно свой язык хорошо знать, и быть готовым воспринимать другие акценты, как будто человек из села говорит.

@@korana6308 а грамматика , сопряжения, рода, падеж, глагол to be" ja Jestem и всё такое.

@@user-fr6sr1mh7e ну ты уже имеешь ввиду общение, и тем более написание. Это да. Я говорю про монимание. Русскому тоже нужно обучаться. С той же украины Русского не знают, и в слове из трёх букв ещё делают 4 ошибки - исчо. Этому нужно учиться безусловно, я не отрицаю. Но я говорил про понимание языка.

Ojcze(Otche) nasz(nash), któryś(kotoryy) jest(jest') w(v) niebie(nyebye), święć się(svyatitsya) Imię(imya) Twoje(tvojo), przyjdź(pridyot) Królestwo(Korolevstvo) Twoje(Tvojo), bądź(budyet) wola(volya) Twoja(Tvoja), jako(kak) w(v) niebie(nyebye) tak(tak) i(i) na(na) ziemi(zyemlye). Chleba(Hleba) naszego(nashego) powszedniego(povsednevnogo) daj(daj) nam(nam) dzisiaj(seychas). I(I) odpuść(otpusti) nam(nam) nasze(nashi) winy(viny), jako(kak) i(i) my(my) odpuszczamy(otpuskayem) naszym(nashim) winowajcom(vinovnikam). I(I) nie(nye) wódź(vedi) nas(nas) na(na) pokuszenie(pokushenie), ale(a) nas(nas) zbaw(izbav') ode(ot) złego(zlogo). Amen(Amin').

Soglasen!

Amin! 😃

Не совсем точно на русском (некоторые слова). Но на польском смысл понятен, к моему удивлению.

Удивительно,но на 90% понятно😅

Yes, that is very much true. I guess, the root of the words both in Russian and Polish is pretty much the same, that is why it is not much difficult to figure out the meaning of the words. You just need to be a little bit more intellectual to look at the words and the meanings.

Then again "przyjaciel" would probably mean pal or buddy too in polish. It's not really indicative of friendship level at very least now.

Before all that Netflix mess with "the Witcher" movie I tried to find a first version of it a while ago. I could find only an original one and surprised that I could understand most of it:-)

@@olegrudkovskyi7616 Never watched Witcher series (neither old nor new one), only know memes like "Smoku, jesteś piękny"

​@@olegrudkovskyi7616Mihal Zebrovsky is the best Geralt of all time, sorry Cavil

@@RRrRRrrRRGoesBrrrRR LOL.

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Because they are Slavic languages

@@cheerful_crop_circle I know

I travelled to Poland a lot when I was a kid, and I usually talked to polish kids without knowing polish, so they would speak Polish and I Russian It took about 10 minutes in dialogue for us to come to an understanding Good times

I've never studied a slavic language and I don't understand russian at all. It should be banned at this point in Poland.

Same! I find Polish to be a very cute language ❤

Polish sounds ridiculous

Hahaha same here ❤😂❤😂

Greetings from Poland.

​@@szlongster why?

"I can say that Polish language seems like "russian, but with zc-sz-rz-zcszcshzcshzhcshzchsz"" yea, same. As soon as you get over all the funky stuff like that you can read more or less confidently

At least you can read it. To us Russian just looks like gibberish. And well, it is.

@@sharavy6851 not our fault the international language uses same script as you and not the same script as we use

@@sharavy6851 алфавит выучить не так уж и сложно. И все станет вполне понятно.

@@user-se3gv6bu9g the so-called “Russian” is a colonial dialect of the old Ukrainian (Ruthenian/Rus’) language. The first Russian dictionary by Vladimir Dal says as much, it is titled “the greater Rus’ dialect of the Rus’ language”.

studying russian after (specifically) croatian for a long time (and learning serbian cyrillic) was soooo incredibly helpful bcs the grammar is nearly identical, there are just some small differences like with particles, the verb system, some case endings, that need to be worked out. serbo-croatian also employs palatalization less than russian, which uses it less than polish, so it's a little closer in that way too, though russian does vowel reduction to an incredible extent, which is sometimes balanced by the church slavonic loanwords that are often only one or two letters off the serbo-croatian counterparts (like короткий vs краткий vs kratak/kratki, молодой vs младой* vs mlad/mladi; старый vs star/stari is already pretty much there tho).

Polish is the French of Slavic languages - it's easier for Portuguese guy to speak to Romanian than for Italian to French. Polish is the only harsh sounding Slavic language, all other sound upi tupi tipi tapi, russian tries to be scary by doing big guy deep voice but it's still soft, as if big guy had mouth full of dumplings, Polish is ryszyszszhyszczdz ą - snake language, wind whistling in the attic.

@@10hawell Czech too.

​@@laeda39 I'm native pole, for me czech sounds smooth. Greetings all Czech

For Poles, Czech and Slovak sounds like it was made by child, it sounds kinda cute lol @@laeda39

I mean it kinda makes sense, we had less exposure to other branches. Which can differ within regions of Russia and even one family. I feel like we have: - a ton of archaic words that other slavic languages use on day-to-day basis; spodnie = исподние, oczy = очи - we usually use uncommon, to a slavic ear, broader name for a thing than you guys. If I say to you words like "собака", "лошадь", "лягушка" you would probably have no clue what I'm saying. But if you say to me "pies", "koń", "żaba" - I would get out of it: dog (male), horse (male again) and toad (instead of a frog). Context would be pretty much the same for me. - greater exposure to Russian would reveal more common words with Polish through fairy tales and 19th century literature with far more borrowed words from German and recognizable common roots without need for degree in linguistic. On the other hand, - greater exposure to Ukrainian and/or German would have ease my understanding of Polish; - if schools stopped fighting against colloquialism that do often resemble Polish/Ukrainian words or even speech patterns. - I feel like dyslexic when I try to read Polish, which never happens with Czech. Inconsistencies between written and spoken versions makes it very difficult to understand sometimes: Written - rzeka > reka > река = river; Spoken - rzeka > zheka > жэка? = no idea łódka > lodka > лодка = rowboat; łódka > vudka > вудка? = duck, vodka, idk And, yeah, false friends don't make it easy. I don't know which one is my favorite "store" that translates into "crypt" or "cup" that becomes "scull". Either way Polish sounds pretty metal)

@@somestuff7876 The Polish language has a mathematical precision between writing and reading, and people who don't understand digraphs, I don't know where they come from because digraphs exist in most languages. Especially since the Russian language is full of exceptions and dynamic accents, without logic.

@@bobstone0 We were talking about *mutual intelligibility* and written Polish often has more clues to common origin, where spoken version leads you on a wild goose chase. In case of "river" that would be for all Slavic languages (unless Interslavic dictionary lied to me). English has horrendous spelling rules. French has a million and one exception. With Russian language, people, usually, mention cases and verbs of motion... but since you're a Slav you know the drill) So for you it's stress. For me it's written Polish. Which has nothing to do with latin alphabet - Czech made it work just fine. No ones is perfect or have the same level of difficulty. Don't take it personally. But diacritics are clearly superior ;)

@@somestuff7876 This is a very subjective issue, especially when the commentator does not know the languages he is talking about.

@@bobstone0 That is the point. Same as OP. It's all about mutual intelligibility from scratch.

maybe it's a personal preference then, bc in my daily speech i only use "czy" as English 'if', as in "tell me if (…)".

@@alekszewczyk9271 like in slovak we say "či" as in "tell me if", also as "or", and sometimes used for questions too but nowadays people mostly use it at the end of the sentence like "máš to, či?"

i actually want russian language to have such a word too, so i often add "da?" (", yes?") to the end of sentences. still not czy from other slavic languages, but allows to distinguish questions without intonation (or punctuation) too. also russian has "li" or "lj" (ли, ль), but now it is used only in combination with alternative word order to point on the questioned word in yes/no question (?jezdil? li ty v selo, ?ty? li jezdil v selo, ?v selo? li ty jezdil), it's not possible to say "li ty jezdil v selo" to question the whole sentence, that would be nice to have sometimes, the only way to express that idea is "ty jezdil v selo, da?"

@@volodymyrkilchenko Можно ещё сказать: "ты что, ездил в село?" или "ты ездил в село, что ли?".

@@ierof1 а ну что ли тоже вариант, но както тут больше удивление, без что более нейтрально выходит

Ъ and Ь used to be vowels (short U and short I) but it was much earlier than 19th century. By the time of the orthography reform final Ъ was just an etymological relict without any function and in other positions it had the same meaning as it has in modern Russian orthography, and Ь did also just mark palatalization.

Poles would spell съесть as “sjeść”, with “sj” instead of “si”.

​@@brendangordon2168It's not "i". In Russian "e" can make two sounds. First it's just like "ie" in Polish (for instance in word "ciebie" and i talk about second "ie" in that word). And second sound it's just "je". And when you write "sъest" you just don't pronounce and say je after "s"

I find ъ to be so rare (0,02% common) that I streight up dont have it in my latin script russijan alphabet. А = A а = a Б = B б = b В = V в = v Г = G г = g Д = D д = d Е = JE е = je Ё = JO ё = jo Ж = Ž ж = ž З = Z з = z И = I и = i Й = J й = j К = K к = k Л = L л = l ЛЬ = Ļ ль = ļ М = M м = m Н = N н = n НЬ = Ņ нь = ņ О = O о = o П = P п = p Р = R р = r С = S с = s Т = T т = t У = U у = u Ф = F ф = f Х = H х = h Ц = C ц = c Ч = Č ч = č Ш = Š ш = š Щ = ŠČ щ = šč Ъ = ъ = Ы = Y ы = y Ь = ' ь = ' Э = E э = e Ю = JU ю = ju Я = JA я = ja See?

@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 since you're using J as a component of Е Ё Ю and Я, do you write подъём as “podjjom”? Also Щ in modern Russian represents /ɕ/, not /ʃt͡ʃ/, so Щ should be Š' or just Š if a J-vowel comes after it. And I don't see any logical reason to add Latvian soft consonant letters since they don't cover all Russian soft consonants and you still need to use ' for Ь

Spoken polish would probably be a lot easier to understand if russian didnt have fucked up stress :>

​@@benismann It is Polish that fucked up the stress. In Proto-Slavic stress was in most places like in Russian

@@ttgfddfgjvcfyj Protoslavic had a free and a pitch accent. Nowadays only Chaikavan, Old Shtoikavan, Kaikavan dialects have that. Not too forget, some slovene dialects too.

@@zerrro7 I was talking about the place, not quality. And Western South Slavs often had their stresses retracted a syllable back

@@ttgfddfgjvcfyj Reread my comment

Я Поляк и у меня тоже самое только с Русским языком

Да, будто после инсульта на реабилитации вспоминаешь свой язык 🙂

​​@@mikhaildanilov8240русские должны быть благодарны полякам и немцам за современный русский язык. Где 10 тыс полонизмов и 15 тыс германизмов. Немецкий не знаю, но про польские слова от слова куртка, уважать, петрушка, кролик, пушка, курок, пуля, кружка, кувалда, пончик, замок, почта, повидло, замок, легавый (порода охотничьих собак), птичье молоко, поединок, полконвик, подполковник, заядлый, отважный, тарелка, скромный, наивный, наглый и многое другоеdрусские должны быть благодарны полякам и немцам за современный русский язык. Где 10 тыс полонизмов и 15 тыс германизмов. Немецкий не знаю, но про польские слова от слова куртка, уважать, петрушка, кролик, пушка, курок, пуля, кружка, кувалда, пончик, замок, почта, повидло, замок, легавый (порода охотничьих собак), птичье молоко, поединок, полконвик, подполковник, заядлый, отважный, тарелка, скромный, наивный, наглый, паскуда, стерва, ведьма, быдло и многое другое. Без полонизмов русский язык был бы очень бедный.

@@kananrzazade3030 Когда у страны активный культурный и торговый и, может быть, религиозный обмен с соседями, обогащается и язык. Русский язык тому пример - из-за долгой культурной и технологической изоляции ему не хватало средств описывать современный мир. Еще, кажется, к полонизмам относятся: клянчить, отчизна, быдло, танец, гонор (честь, проявление которой у поляков русские оценивали отрицательно)

@@mikhaildanilov8240 какая ещё изоляция? с изначальных времён Русь активно взаимодействовала с множеством народов. один только путь "из варяг в греки" чего стоит.

But in Polish it's: 1 dom, 2-4 domy, 5-21 domów, 22-24 domy, 25-31 domów etc. so its a bit different

Also, I personally think it's much easier to write and read cursive with the admittedly bulky Polish script than with the slimmer but much hairier Czech script. You must remember that it was most of written language before the ballpoint pen.

Did you mean to write "rz" instead of "zz" in the first sentence?

@@wojtekkkk No. Rz is a different thing to what was i writing about.

@@kacperwoch4368 why should "zz" be a thing?? I thought what you meant to say is that there's ż bc rz can in a few cases also be pronounced as, well as r-z as in zamarznąć where the rz isn't read as ż.

@@wojtekkkk Because every other sound of this series in Polish is written as letter+z diagraph. c+z, s+z, r+z, you get the idea. ż is the exception, we write ż instead of z+z.

Interesting but as a Pole I dont agree. When russian, Belarusian or Ukrainian start talking to me in their language, I have no idea whats goin on. Its much easier for me to understand a Croat or Bosnian.

@@Kuzyn Personal experiences, exposure, linguistic skills and many other factors determine which languages feel the closest to Polish to different listeners. Most Poles would say either Slovak or Belarusian feel the most understandable, but there are outliers of course. For example Serbian/Croatian has "treći" which sounds almost like Polish "trzeci" and other stuff that feels very familiar, but there is also a lot of vocabulary that's really unfamiliar

wow! there's only like 2 millions of you out of 8 billions of population

Buryatia is next to Mongolia and people there speak a language close to Mongolian. There's a lot of Mongolic languages, unfortunately a lot are endangered, but many are still alive and thriving. Definitely not a language isolate. (If anything, Hungarian would be much more isolated as their closest linguistic brothers are much more apart than Buryats to Mongols)

@@gamermapper Really, they teach better mongolian in China than they do in actual Mongolia.

Isn’t Turkic considered a distant relative of Mongolic, or is that still speculative at this point?

Please, could you make a conquest of Russia again? 🙏

Honestly, you could say the change is even younger, you can still watch movies or listen to music from like 60s or even 70s and still hear the Л. Still long time ago of course.

@@annafirnen4815 maybe that's coz of russian influence or smth coz yk, soviet union and shit

No, it already started in the 17th century but it was at first limited to some low colloquial and peasant dialects, and then spread throughout the country.

​@@annafirnen4815 Yeah, but that's to do with the "sceniczne ł" at least in some part. Also it'd be important to establish where particular people came from, both geographically (or in fact, dialectically; thinking of "Kresy" and whatnot?) or socially (higher strata of society?) or their nationality (for instance, cinema and theatre have been filled to the brim with Jewish people who had their different way of pronuncing some sounds). In my neck of the woods which is rural area situated 50 km away from Warsaw my Great-Grandparents, who were born around 1900 did not pronounce the Л, I'm told. I have heard quite a number of people born in the 1910s talk and there was not a smidgen of a trace of the Л in their speech either. I've scanned through some articles about the "wałczenie" and you can find statements that the phenomenon already started in the 16th century. I wonder how they were able to establish that considering the nascent and sketchy state of Polish linguistics (in a broad sense) of the time?

@@benismannno, that’s been the case for centuries all the way till around 1970s, some Poles always said Ł like the English W though, like mine (they’re from Cieszyn and Trinec)

Ты молодец! Удачи в дальнейшем изучении русского

@@pawlo_sanycz Спасибо! Я учу русский язык с середины 2021 года, но из-за экзаменов не могу😑😢 Но я не сдамся. Русский не так сложный

Пожалуй помогу тебе с правильным написанием: Наконец то, я долго ждал это видео, теперь я вам рекомендую сделать видео на Кириллице и о других Славянских языках. Я люблю твои видео, а так же хочу ещё видео о Славянских языках! Я всё ещё учу русский, извините, если есть ошибки. Я переписал твой коммент более правильно, надеюсь это тебе поможет в понимании. У тебя хорошо получается, продолжай учиться!

​@@vulpeculaetanser3684Поправка: "наконец-то" пишется через дефис.

@@vulpeculaetanser3684 Более правильно, но всё ещё с ошибками😅

Really? 🤡 *RUSSIAN 🇷🇺 & POLISH* 🇵🇱 Kto zvonil? (Russian) Kto dzwonił? (Polish) Who called? (English translation) Eto takoy milyi zapakh. (Russian) To taki miły zapach. (Polish) It’s such a nice smell. Gusenitsa polzala po stogu sena. (Russian) Gąsienica pełzała po stogu siana. (Polish) A caterpillar crawled along a haystack. Kaplya dozhdya vysokhla na kozhe. (Russian) Kropla deszczu wyschła na skórze. (Polish) A drop of rain has dried on the skin. Na stole lezhal pushistyy kot. (Russian) Na stole leżał puszysty kot. (Polish) There was a fluffy cat on the table. Zimniy den' i ulitsa v snegu. (Russian) Zimowy dzień i ulica w śniegu. (Polish) Winter day and the street is covered in snow. U menya bolit gorlo. (Russian) Boli mnie gardło. (Polish) I have a sore throat. Vorona sela na derevo. (Russian) Wrona usiadła na drzewie. (Polish) The crow sat on the tree. V Prage yest staryy most. (Russian) W Pradze jest stary most. (Polish) There’s an old bridge in Prague. Levaya stena byla zelenoy. (Russian) Lewa ściana była zielona. (Polish) The left wall was green. Kon yest ovyos. (Russian) Koń je owies. (Polish) A horse eats oats. U tebya charuyushchiy golos (Russian) Masz czarujący głos. (Polish) You’ve got a charming voice. Letnyaya pogoda za oknom (Russian) Letnia pogoda za oknem (Polish) Summer weather beyond the window. Kazhdyy imeyet pravo na schastie. (Russian) Każdy ma prawo do szczęścia. (Polish) Everybody has the right to happiness. Ty videl yego v shkole? (Russian) Widziałeś go w szkole? (Polish) Have you seen him at school? Nemtsy byli nashimi sosedyami. (Russian) Niemcy byli naszymi sąsiadami. (Polish) Germans were our neighbours. Pey bolshe vody. (Russian) Pij więcej wody. (Polish) Drink more water. Moy otets rodilsya vesnoy. (Russian) Mój ojciec urodził się na wiosnę. (Polish) My father was born in spring. Eto bylo trudno. (Russian) To było trudne. (Polish) It was hard. Gde (yest) moya mat'? (Russian) Gdzie jest moja matka? (Polish) Where’s my mother? Chego ty ot menya khochesh? (Russian) Czego odemnie chcesz? (Polish) What do you want from me? Ya nenavizhu zlykh lyudey (Russian) Ja nienawidzę złych ludzi (Polish) I detest evil people. Moy muzh zabavnyy chelovek. (Russian) Mój mąż to zabawny człowiek. (Polish) My husband is a funny person. Yego zhena poshla v les. (Russian) Jego żona poszła do lasu. (Polish) His wife went to the forest. Zvezdy padayut s neba nochyu (Russian) Gwiazdy spadają z nieba w nocy. (Polish) Stars fall from the sky at night. To narusheniye bylo strashnym. (Russian) To naruszenie było straszne. (Polish) That violation was terrifying. Vchera ya uvidel byka, kozu, zaytsa, medvedya, lva, i inykh zverey. (Russian) Wczoraj widziałem byka, kozę, zająca, niedźwiedzia, lwa i inne zwierzęta. (Polish) Yesterday I saw a bull, a goat, a hare, a bear, a lion and other animals. Ya khotel by vyrazit' svoyu mysl'. (Russian) Chciałbym wyrazić swoją myśl. (Polish) I’d like to express my thought. Tvoy strakh kradet sily. (Russian) Twój strach kradnie siłę. (Polish) Fear is disempowering (steals strength). Kazhdaya zhizn' vazhna. (Russian) Każde życie jest ważne. (Polish) Every life matters (is important). Eto testo sladkoye. (Russian) To ciasto jest słodkie. (Polish) That dough is sweet. Dobroye slovo raduyet kazhdogo, kto yego slyshit. (Russian) Dobre słowo raduje każdego, kto je słyszy. (Polish) A kind word pleases everyone who hears it. Moya babushka lyubit myod. (Russian) Moja babcia lubie miód. (Polish) My grandma likes honey. Ya boyus ognia. (Russian) Boję się ognia. (Polish) I’m afraid of fire. Proshu, ne priblizaisya ko mne! (Russian) Proszę nie zbliżaj się do mnie! (Polish) Please, don’t come near me!

@@sempreviva4564 most of those are still completely unrecognizable when spoken. "звоил" in Polish would sound like "zwanił" like a completely different word. Some for "miod" & "miut, "zviezdy" & "gwiazdy" and most of those things that only looks similar but sound completely different. You won't even get a context from a longer speaking.

@@BartoszSewerynWilk Zgadza się, albo "sela" - "usiadła" pfffff

The biggest difference between Russian and Polish grammar is that in Russian, the word "to be" is more frequently omitted.

It sounds vulgar in some south Slavic languages too.

Also “sklep”

(macedonian) we have word “спица” meaning splinter, “пичка” meaning, well something else :) :). But demunitive from спица wold be спицка :)

Well, telling about Russian girl that she’s “urodziwa” is also not the best way to start the conversation 😂

​@mordegardglezgorv2216 Sklep is a borrowing from Polish. The original meaning of the word has not changed in Russian, but in Polish it has changed

Finnish and Hungarian are completely mutually unintelligible and have very little common vocabulary, i could not understand a single word from the Hungarian swadesh list ( words statistically least affected by changes ), based on my knowledge of Finnish except the second person plural ( "Mi/Me" ), so you can imagine what happens to words not on that list Estonian and Finnish are almost mutually intelligible but not quite, there's a lot of similar vocabulary but barely not enough to reliably understand anything.

@@U20E0 I know about that, but it would still be interesting to see whether there are some similarities here and there between Hungarian and Finnish. Mainly very old vocabulary, of course.

Yep you're right about the ć, it's correct in the example: 11:56 as "ci" in "przyjaciel". I think "ć" sound is closer to "cz" than to "c" really.

@@thinksie you absolutely right

polish ć sounds like louder, more hissing ch

Так русская Ц в Царь твёрдая. Мягкая в Цюрих.

@@user-uu4kz8sr5i Ц в русских словах всегда твёрдая, 99% произнесут Цурих, цырк, цэркафь; мягкая Ц есть в украинском. Ш тоже всегда твёрдая (парашют = парашут). Ж твёрдая практически всегда, кроме редчайших исключений диалектного свойства (дрожжи = дрожжы или дрожьжи; дожди = дажди/дашди или дажьжи) . Ч и Щ всегда мягкие; твёрдая Ч есть в белорусском, а вместо Щ там ШЧ.

Ok. That’s your first lesson: try to pronounce this: sootvetstvuyushchiy

Możesz się przydać w przyszłej wojnie żeby tłumaczyć język wroga kiedy zaatakują.

Just like in Polish. Another similarity

Я слышал Хиллари Клинтон. :)

Vocative is doing well and is not going anywhere. It's just used in other places than those you might be thinking about. For example, when addressing someone by their title. Try to address Mr. President without using a vocative. It would sound completely rude in nominative case. But in vocative, "Panie Prezydencie", sounds perfectly good, and I don't think there is a better substitute.

And although we might not use "Panie Prezydencie" in our everyday speech, I'm sure "Panie doktorze" is quite common.

It's commonly used as insult eg. "Ty debilu"

vocative case is weird, in czech they use it, in slovak we mostly don't use it, in eastern slovak dialects they use it, in other dialects there are only a few words that use the vocative case like "bože", "mami", "bratu"

Vocative case is still used in Polish for example when insulting another person

Yeah. Different Slavic langauges are as similar as different Arabic dialects and definitely much closer than "dialects" of Chinese like Mandarin, Cantonese, Hokkien, and so on

Произношение реально сильно отличается.

It seems to me that it would be convenient to write Polish in Cyrillic. What do you think about it?

@olyansky211 there are many sounds in polish that are not covered in cyryllic. I guess it would look quite funny, like Belarussian. :D However, there are attempts to do that. However with polish rusophobia, I would doubt it woud ever happen in big scale.

@@pablopolyansky211 Belarusian texts can be written using either of the Cyrillic and Latin alphabets with lossless reversible conversion between them (for the valid Belarusian words): У рудога вераб'я ў сховішчы пад фатэлем ляжаць нейкія гаючыя зёлкі. U rudoha vierabja ŭ schoviščy pad fatelem lažać niejkija hajučyja ziołki. The Latin variant doesn't need the apostrophe and doesn't need the soft sign. But it uses more diacritics.

I learn russian as a polish and the funniest thing is that I don't even need books to learn.I only listen.

Just a correction, it should be "Wy macie kota"/"Czy wy macie kota?"

@@annafirnen4815absolutely right.

i drop czy 99% of the time

"Czy" isn't determining if the sentence is a question. It just determines whether it's 50/50 question or whether it's a 99/1 question for confirmation. The intonation determines if the sentence is a question. "wy macie kota?" = "you have a cat, right?", "czy wy macie kota?" = "do you have a cat?", "wy macie kota." = "you have a cat".

@@ajuc005 so, basically what I said. Gotcha. This is what an interrogative particle does: it makes a sentence into a question with one of two equally plausible outcomes. The meaningless do performs this function in English. In languages that don’t have the meaningless “do” or this interrogative particle, they rely on word order or sometimes intonation to derive a yes/no type of question. Confirmatory questions are another class of questions which are often asked by introducing a statement and then using a word or phrase which functions to ask the addressee to confirm that the speaker has the correct information. See か (ka) vs ね (ne).

Dropping the vocative is only common when adressing someone by personal name and nothing else. If you adress them formally (Pan/Pani) or by their function it doesn't happen.

I don't know about you but whenever I am calling someone I use the vocative, and so does everyone I know.

If your name is Paweł then I will say "Paweł" and not "Pawle" but if I want to call you an idiot I'll say "idioto" not "idiota".

Russky jezik ne maje vokativa, ale vlasny nazivy, konče'se na A, Ja, maju krotku formu adresovanja, gde ovy litery znikajut, napriklad: Lena - Len, Vasja - Vas' itd. Ponekde to može biti i nominalny imennik: Papa - Pap, Mama - Mam. No to nije neky osebny pripad - samo forma adresovanja.

@@dmitriysmirnov9084Is this Serbian or Slovenian?

Slavic langauges are very similar. In fact as much as Arabic "dialects" ahah

@@gamermapper Mhm.

@@gamermapperand yet Slavic people love to fight over whether their dialect constitutes a language. Serbian vs Croatian and Bulgarian vs Macedonian. Russian vs Ukrainian too, but I think it’s fair to categorize Ukrainian as its own language.

​@@greasher926Macedonian is a language and recognised as such by linguists whether you like it or not

@@greasher926if we treat it purely scientifically, almost all separate branches of the slavic language families represent actual separate, but still very close languages, while what we call languages in those families are actual dialects of those LF.

you have to listen the language for some time to make some transformation in your mind passively.

@@volodymyrkilchenko Yes, that works with Polish for me, because it's close enough, but Russian is a problem becuase their vowels are very unclear, everything sounds like schwa to me, so it's hard to catch something when you can't even understend when they are trying to pronounce separate letters, like we don't even have letters for their sounds, I can't hear it and repeat it, when I typed "vada" it's nost actually vada, becuase first A is a schwa sound in Russian, I don't know if there was supposed to be A or O.

After 2 weeks in eastern Slavic country you "get" how the sounds change and you can understand most of these words :) I just ignore "a/o" distinction altogether when trying to understand Ukrainian, Russian etc. And I also ignore additional vowels they like to put before some consonants (like głowa vs golova or galova or whatever the a/o situation is there).

​@@ajuc005 BTW Ukrainians reduce vowels much less. Less or even absence of vowel reduction (with almost full proficiency in most aspects) is how Ukrainians an be told apart from Russians if they're speaking Russian.

​@@MatveyTsivinyukНо во многих говорах такой редукции нет, в т.ч. нет и "аканья", -- например, пишется как слышится у северян (прежде всего поморов), волжан (например, нижегородцев), многих кержаков (сибиряков). Так что формально "стопроцентного пробника" нет, хотя мы, когда слышим говор, зачастую сразу понимаем, откуда говорящий.

feels like just an oversight to me

true

@@enricobianchi4499 что вы имеете в виду? Что это не значительно "просто" или ужасно плохо "оплошность"?

Polish people don't pronounce it like that, you probably just can't hear a difference

he pronounces it completly wrong

Khodit' is just to walk generally, while idti is to walk to some place

@@o_s-24 I understood that from the chart

*хОдит (hhOdeet) и ходИть (hhadEEt') - разные формы слова.

Exactly the same as in russian

My favorite Polish sentence is "To to to."

,,o to" ma spację pomiędzy sylabami

@@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaghasvdghvsjh you'd be correct 500 years ago. Today? No

Russian doesn't even have any other way other than to drop "to be". Technically speaking "быть" in present tense is "я есть" but it's literally never used in this way. Isn't even correct. It's only used in different grammatical ways ("у него есть" - he has) - so otherwise it's kinds forced to drop the verb

Miło widzieć ludzi uczących się mojego ojczystego języka

powodzenia!

też uczę się polskiego, powodzenia, to bradzo trudne

@@aro4cinglife To żeście się porwali na głęboką wodę. Powodzenia!

@ter404 tak, bo lubię challenge

Old polish is somehow so similar to russian

​@@russianyoutubeAnd old-russian is so similair ro polish.

@@user-zv9zc9bc2y might be true lol. Beauty of slavic languages...

i think what you said is more like the english short "i" like in the word "him". i think the russian ы is more like и but you move your tongue back, maybe trying to say и but in the middle of your mouth

Русское Ы больше похоже на американское "-ly", к примеру в словах "softly", "Alyx", или на "e" в "roses".

On the subject of "Y" - I left a comment about it but I'll copy part of it here: the tongue isn't actually in the middle and it's not a fully closed vowel [...] Try saying ɘ and bringing it forward. Using the ɨ symbol is just a convention and doesn't reflect actual phonology

I’m a native english speaker and I think about the pronunciation of ы in Russian as being similar to the и sound but spoken further back in the mouth. The closest I can get to recreating the sound occurs when I pull my tongue back, but I’m not sure how close that is to the way natives say it naturally

@@hearingninja я же написал выше.

Так говорят для упрощения. Ни русские, ни поляки, ни белорусы, ни норвежцы не имеют истинных ретофлексов, это просто английский ш с отводом языка чуть дальше альвеол и немного веляризованный (поэтому произносится ы вместо и после ш, ж)

Not much. But it's very easy to learn one if you know the other

Russian is my fifth language and second non-native language, which I took in uni. Once I was in church and a Pole sat through the service and tried to talk with us after the service. As the Polish couple was out that day, they asked me to interpret. I understood about half of what he said, and I think that was mutual.

Check out the channel "EcoLinguist" and he has many videos with titles like "can polish speakers understand Russian?" "can russian speakers understand polish?" With excellent subtitles in both languages and English translations. I can understand about 90-95% of the Polish spoken in these videos (as a russian speaker) because they usually use formal, clear, slow speech. It's really fun and interesting :) I especially like the game show type format

To add to that though, if I heard a casual conversation between polish speakers, my understanding of it goes to like almost 0% lmao. Well, like maybe 10-20% And in very rare occasions, I can understand a whole sentence. But in the EcoLinguist videos somehow I can understand like over 90% of Polish, Czech, Slovak, Bulgarian, Ukrainian etc

@@louiserocks1 thats because they try to make it more comprehensible in these videos

"Дюжий" also means "strong"

Стоит подучить русский.

@@SteelyGlowМои родственники из Курской области до сих пор говорят дюже в значении очень/большой/много

But дюжий would become dziuży in polish.

It's the same in Polish yet we don't have such associations in our heads. You can insult a woman if you call her kobyła too but I don't think the word itself sounds anything like kobieta.

Swadesh list, I guess.

Czyżby przyszły czysty szczyt strzygł z przyczyny pychy styrty wszy z Pszczyny?

@@WindowsDrawer I stand corrected

Z potencjalnym przyrostem liczby osób jawnie niebinarnych możliwe, że takie formy staną się bardziej powszechne. Czas pokaże. Póki co, zagadnienie bardziej teoretyczne i może literackie.

Lol

No , Bulgarian and Macedonian makes more sense

@@cheerful_crop_circle You mean Bulgarian and Western Bulgarian?

@@ivan2003boy They are still different languages because they belong to different countries. Macedonian has a lot of influence from Serbian

*compare

No, Belarusian is still closer to Russian than Bulgarian

😅❤ You are using Polish language very intuitively. Widzić would pass in a village dialect but standard polish would be "widzieć". "Wideów"- this is an awesome word, I wish we used it like that, but idk why we don't change forms of wideo. Więcej wideo, na wideo, z wideo.

@@askarufus7939 thanks. I never get widziec right lol. yeah I am learning Polish now, it doesn't have to be perfect but I want it to be

In Polish it would actually be "Chciałbym zobaczyć więcej filmów o polskim". So: 1. in this situation, we would use a perfective version of the verb "zobaczyć" instead of the imperfective "widzieć". 2. we do use "wideo", but as "video games"("gry wideo"), as a VHS, or when paired with "audio". For Yt videos, we would just use the simple "film" or the diminutive "filmik". 3. we have the opposite capitalisation rule to English in the case of adjectives created from country names. So, the adjective from "Polska" would be "polski". Plus, you would have to decline the adjective for instrumental, so "polskim". I do applaud you for trying though, it was nice to see that 😊

@@sallomon2357 myślałem że, po "o" używamy miejscownika 😔 Powinienem wieć 1 i 2. Szkoda!

@@josephbrandenburg4373 oops, yeah, it's locative, you're right. Sorry, I don't know the English names for cases that well 😅

Same with Polish. If I see it written, then its easier

@@ad5792I think most people in Poland don’t even know it’s very similar since we can’t read Cyrillic