How Ski Jumpers Keep Flying Farther - Cheddar Explains

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Every few years, the Olympics roll around to prove that, yes, the world’s best athletes can jump farther, swim faster, and generally crush records that would’ve been impossible just a few decades ago. Take ski jumping - the world record has increased by well over 200 meters in fewer than 100 years. Responsible for this is a lot of intentional engineering of equipment and hills, but perhaps the biggest change is thanks to one act of human daring. Watch to find out how!
Further reading:
Olympics.com
olympics.com/en/news/look-to-...
olympics.com/en/beijing-2022/...
Ski Jumping Hill Archive
www.skisprungschanzen.com/EN/S...
The New York Times
www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...
Sports Medicine
www.researchgate.net/publicat...
The International Ski Federation
assets.fis-ski.com/image/uplo...
Scientific American
www.jstor.org/stable/24965846
Smithsonian Science Education Center
ssec.si.edu/stemvisions-blog/...
Sports Engineering [journal]
link.springer.com/article/10....
USA Nordic Sport
usanordic.org/ski-jumping-the...
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@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

Hello! I produced this video. Chuck any questions about this piece below! Or about how us and Vox have very similar interests in niche* sports (*niche from a US-perspective, at least).

@NotHPotter 2 года назад

So is this video the Antz version or the Bug's Life? 😆

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

@@NotHPotter ^^ this comment made me genuinely laugh out loud. We'll have to let the people decide.

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

@@NotHPotter Also, speaking of, check out our older video on "Mockbusters" which is the surprisingly legal Antz/Bug's Life phenomenon...

@JoshuaR.Collins 2 года назад

what happened to your arm?

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

@@JoshuaR.Collins I thought I'd start off 2022 with a nice long bike ride. 10 miles into that bike ride, another cyclist zoomed by me extremely quickly without announcing his presence just as I was clipping my shoes back into my pedals and getting ready to do a U-turn. Startled, I couldn't get my feet back out of the clips in time and I used my left hand to break my fall (a bad call, in retrospect). Minor fracture, so hopefully this is the last you'll see of the splint.

@ivorything 2 года назад

Between Vox's video earlier and this one, I now know everything about this sport and am ready to compete in the 2026 Games. Wish me luck!

@nikkicastle3423 2 года назад

Careful not to break your neck, I’m rooting for you!

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

Check out our tiktok for a short video I made about "Eddie the Eagle" who basically did exactly what you want to do (minus the RU-vid videos since it was the 1980s).

@ivorything 2 года назад

@@nikkicastle3423 they literally explain how it's actually a safe sport? I'll be fine thanks. See, I learned everything I need to know about it

@ivorything 2 года назад

It was a joke, you absolute dork.

@VinesXSkijumping Год назад

@@ivorything I would complain about the safety of flying on 2 pieces of desk, 10m above the ground with speed of 100km/h, but ok :)

@napoleonibonaparte7198 2 года назад

I’m sure Cheddar and Vox had a happy little accident.

@mauricescka 2 года назад

it's interesting how this video is to about ski jumping like the one from vox 5 hours later

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

Oh trust me, it took us by surprise as well.

@Architect98 2 года назад

I was literally wondering the exact same thing I just finished seeing the Vox video

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

@@Architect98 I guess Feb. 7 is officially "learn more than you ever thought you'd learn about ski jumping" day.

@dynomar11 2 года назад

The Olympics are happening so it makes sense to make videos about skis

@Architect98 2 года назад

@@karinshedd7334 honestly it looks like such an incredible sport you literally fly hundreds of feet in the air

@DingDimlewitz 2 года назад

So glad you mentioned Jan Boklöv. The man is a legend. I remember how his jumps were longest, but he never won because of the low score. Then they changed the rules and he won the world cup total that year. However, he was at his best when being the underdog. One got the feeling he didn't like the pressure being the champ and he quit ski jumping 2-3 years later. But a legend still.

@reineh3477 Год назад

He won even though they gave him low points. A few years later it was no point in giving low points since almost everyone was using it. When everybody used his style it got harder to win which might have been the reason he quit.

@dynomar11 2 года назад

It makes total sense that vox and cheddar both have a skiing video. The Olympics are happening right now. Coincidences exist still.

@Kintabl 2 года назад

There is no limit on how long can you jump. It's all depend on a hill size. Today, the largest hills allow about 250m jumps. Janez Gorišek (the large hill designer, the designer of Planica and Vikersund hills) already have a design for 500m hill. But he says that we must do baby steps. So we can see the construction of 300m hill here in Planica in the future. Planica was always a place where new goals were set in the ski jumping. First man that jump over 100m, was in Planica, the first man who jump over 200m, was in Planica.

@jeffersonselikemnyame9516 2 года назад

Although it seems they’re gliding just above the snow, it still captivates, how they’re legs do not break or something

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

That right there is one of the things that blew my mind when I started watching these.

@cheddar 2 года назад

Right? It's actually a much safer sport than people assume.

@R4ttleSn4ke93 2 года назад

It is saver than it seems at first, but to compare it with curling is very odd. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-65Lhw55dAvg.html

@SampoSaarela 2 года назад

The level where they start is also adjusted very very carefully for the better jumpers so they don't fly too long. Check some jump, like Ahonen WR (fell) in Planica. That year he was head and shoulders above everybody and that was the last jump of the year so he went all in but the starting level was way too high. He took the flight down from about 10 meters vertical and landed on almost level. Broke his tail bone and shit. If he would have flown that to the end, it would have been easy 250+ and probably death.

@am7ha7 2 года назад

as an austrian im rly surprsed to see a ski jumping video from cheddar.

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

As an American, I'm surprised I didn't know much about this extremely popular sport at all until I did this video!

@justsamoo3480 2 года назад

@@karinshedd7334 I don’t think this video even grasps the surface of how important this sport is in Slovenia. We traditionally hold the last event of the season on the biggest slope in the world. The event pretty much crashes the country for the whole weekend, especially in smaller towns. And it is for a reason: we are good at it. This video was just posted after Slovenia won gold in mixed teams at olympics. Our other two medals also came from female ski jumping: one gold and one bronze.

@GdzieJestNemo 2 года назад

had the same feeling. Someone outside of our little cligue (Norway, Austria, Germany, Swiss, Poland, Czech, Slovenia, Finland and Japan) even knows it exists? wow

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

@@GdzieJestNemo What are the odds you and @justsamo can forward this to, oh, say, the entire population of your countries to give us a lil algorithm boost? Is there a country-wide email panlist in Slovenia? TYSM in advance

@Pwn3dbyth3n00b 2 года назад

Vox literally just posting this topic a few hours ago....

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

Turns out this is fascinating enough that it warrants two separate videos!

@JoshuaKellerCH 2 года назад

Well it's official now: Cheddar has overtaken Vox in making the more informing, funnier and overall more interesting educational videos on RU-vid! Congrats! 🙂 👏

@xBigBean 2 года назад

lol if the world was new york maybe

@techhelpportal7778 2 года назад

And less political

@szaszm_ 2 года назад

@@xBigBean I'm European (i.e. not new yorker) and enjoy both.

@tobiwan001 2 года назад

The US is good in summer Olympics, but not really Winter Olympics. That’s why they have to introduce new snowboard events all the time to keep the US audience interested.

@j0ckel617 2 года назад

I believe the university of Leipzig calculated, that with the right hill construction there is no large difference in flight speed and impact pressure between a 250m hill and a 500m one, the only large exception would be airtime

@flyingsquirrel2620 2 года назад

5:55 Yeah, these ski jumpers are just like us!

@HoffmannGirl8 2 года назад

I just got back from competing in women’s ski jumping at Beijing Olympics this year and loved seeing more interest in ski jumping and it’s technique! Thank you guys for spreading awareness for the sport I love!

@DirtmopAZ 2 года назад

Need more videos with you and fewer to none with the New York voice over guy

@yash_9698 2 года назад

As a Canadian I want to let you know that we officially got a medal in ski jump I knew you’re American RU-vid channel but we officially got one it since 1924 in North America and it’s first Canada medal 🥉and it’s makes Olympic debuts as mix ski jump event

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

And it's a bronze!! Welcome to the club, Canada! As our icy (or, icier) northern neighbors, it seems like you definitely would've had one already, but I'm very happy for you nonetheless.

@GabGotti3 2 года назад

You and Vox posted ski jumping videos the same day. Whoa 🤯

@sankimalu 2 года назад

When Swedes tell me something is better done their way, I usually agree...

@alansaxena7934 2 года назад

I guess I learned a lot about the basics of ski jumping from Vox and Cheddar coincidental video

@yass123 2 года назад

I love this Karin 😍

@TheyCallMeNewb 2 года назад

You got Derek'ed! Steve Mould and Stand Up Maths can tell you all about that. Still, it is a different slice off the same cake on offer here. Bravo.

@SampoSaarela 2 года назад

Hello, I usually like your videos a lot but you put the hill size second when it should be first. Also you said in the beginning that points are gained or lost for the starting level, wind and style. The wind points have been there only about a decade or so.

@douglasboyle6544 2 года назад

I was just talking about the evolution of Ski Jumping with my mom a few days ago, I'm going to have to send this video her way! I can't believe we didn't get the clip of the "Agony of Defeat" guy in a video about the history of Ski jumping but I guess that's probably down to you being too young to remember ABC's Wide World of Sports and my age showing. Regardless, you've quickly become my favorite content producer/presenter on Cheddar, and whatever happened to your arm I hope it's not serious and it heals soon!

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

Busted haha. I am too young to remember the Agony of Defeat, although I did run across it in my research! In retrospect, I'm not sure why I didn't include it. I guess just to focus on other stuff! Time constraints, you know how it is.

@VArsovski10 2 года назад

A very old passion of my teenage days.. Not to jump, but to watch.. I especially loved the Championships in the end of the season where 8 nations with 4 jumpers each compete in 2 rounds for the most points total And even the approach was different back at the time, for example (in general) Norway always wanted to maximise the distance of jumps and Japan always tried maximise style points until later things got relatively maximised on both sides of the totals and became more sophisticated but a bit more repetitive I guess can thank YT for the suggestion but weird how this was recommended 🤔

@agnia85 2 года назад

I love ski jumping. It's a huge sport in Poland (to watch)

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

Ah! Is Kamil Stoch a big deal over there?

@agnia85 2 года назад

@@karinshedd7334 He is, but the success of this sport in Poland in terms of viewing numbers belongs to Adam Małysz. He started it all with his amazing 2000/2001 season of winning. Since then there was Stoch, Kubacki, Żyła so we're really lucky to watch it each winter. I still remember Małysz' ski jumping rivalry with Martin Schmidt and Sven Hannavald. Those were the days. There are still millions of Poles who watch the world cup each weekend.

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

@@agnia85 BRB, Googling Adam Malysz ski jump videos.

@kbieniu7 2 года назад

@@karinshedd7334 I would say that Adam Małysz is probably the most known sportsman in Poland. At least, I have such feeling, personally. Moreover, when I was a kid, I remember that a popular thing was to build small ~0.5m high snow ramps somewhere on sides of smaller ski tracks. We could at least for a short moment feel almost like Małysz, haha!

@whoeveriam0iam14222 2 года назад

So how big were the ramps that they used back in those days? I bet the current ones are bigger and thus allow faster speeds with more falling down the hill to get distance

@erockem 2 года назад

I see Karin, I click and watch regardless of the topic. No disappointments yet.

@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 2 года назад

thirst

@erockem 2 года назад

@@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 , lol. its lo-fi if that makes sense. No extra graphics / fluff just for the sake of it. Just direct, to the point info.

@desertstormer7556 2 года назад

Can't wait when we can use this as a mode of transportation

@Harikusa 2 года назад

I really like this new-ish "youtuber?" for the channel.

@SilverSlayer23 2 года назад

Knitted uterus and Apple earphones in the background? ... Right on!

@prabhushankar8520 2 года назад

Good.

@kanedyedstrips3274 2 года назад

Fire

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

and ice.

@AC-im4hi 2 года назад

2032 is a summer olympic year so if we could medal then that would be truly impressive

@FinancialShinanigan 2 года назад

Surprised the jumpers don't flap their arms for more lift.

@queeny5613 2 года назад

Wow

@GabGotti3 2 года назад

This is much better than the Vox one

@hippopotamusbosch 2 года назад

⛷ I wonder if @SciShow is putting out a Ski Jumping video today?

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

COMPLETE THE TRIFECTA.

@c.w.8200 2 года назад

I'm Austrian and ski jumping is the only sport I regularly watch, ski jumpers and skiers are super stars here. I've heard people say it's more of a religion than a sport 😁

@ZYvetica 2 года назад

Vox had the same video idea ^^ oh well, happens!

@pattongilbert 2 года назад

Ayyy!! Vox/Cheddar collaboration, anyone? (Probably just a total coincidence but funny that they are both about the same thing released around the same time)

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

^^^ Apparently we need to cover our collusion tracks better (*for legal purposes, I am obviously kidding). Turns out ski jumping is just equally fascinating to us both!

@cheddar 2 года назад

Just a coincidence. Each brings a little something unique though!

@pattongilbert 2 года назад

@@cheddar Yep! :) You guys focused more on the specifics while Vox was more just the history part.

@pattongilbert 2 года назад

@@karinshedd7334 Haha.😂 I guess so!

@blackkissi 2 года назад

seems like Vox and Cheddar both bad the same idea for today's video :)

@JustMusic75 2 года назад

You made science cool again!

@ericwright8592 2 года назад

Ok now I just want to see ski jumpers wear those flying/gliding suits to glide super far!

@Taradaktyl1 2 года назад

As a ski jumper

@Darth_Sai 2 года назад

Gotta love this woman, being an American and beginning with metric ,you represent the crème de la crème of the empowered American women.

@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 2 года назад

thirst

@sinsayne_5137 2 года назад

are cheddar and vox related channels?

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

No, but apparently we have very similar people working at each.

@l1nus0nl1neproductions9 2 года назад

Interesting ”coincident” that vox also did a video on this topic…still fascinating tho Btw 🤔 if 90km/h = 56mph, does that mean that You would ruthly drive 80km/h on a 45mph speed limited stroad? …Jesus! No wonder ther dangerous to live by

@kbieniu7 2 года назад

3:10 - Zakopane!

@SlackActionBumble 2 года назад

I just want to see more old timey ski jumpers spazzing out flailing around in the air like "oops I made a terrible mistake"

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

That was truly the most entertaining part of this whole production process.

@adnankaisarkhan2837 2 года назад

Cheddar x Vox production!

@esclatvia4382 2 года назад

8:18 I don't know if she knows but that's the year when summer Olympics will happen

@NeonNijahn 2 года назад

They should just add wing suits.

@skylineXpert 2 года назад

I learned what i needed to know about skiing from Goofy

@Cloud7050 2 года назад

Hehe Vox just posted a video about this

@Pyszu Год назад

I think I have a new crush

@Ryan.zelenski 2 года назад

Thank you for putting your face on the internet 😊

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

Thanks for watching my face on the internet!

@koppadasao 2 года назад

Who's Bock-love? I think his name is Boklöv, as in book-leaf, or if you want, he's a page

@afhdfh 2 года назад

Is that a plushy uterus on the wall in the background?? :D

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

Indeed! It's a prop from a previous video of mine.

@AlexxTheGreat18 2 года назад

I really like her! The girl in the video. She's really cool!!! Great way of making vids.

@rustymustard7798 2 года назад

Yeah i agree with a bunch of the comments here, this sport needs wingsuits!

@markthomasson5077 2 года назад

I wonder why the skis have a rectangular cross section, surely a wing section would be better…may not allowed?

@Gebri3l 2 года назад

They should combine wing suits with this.

@rustymustard7798 2 года назад

Exactly!

@Ripz-TnT 2 года назад

There's apparently limits to the size of clothing in the sport for this same reason. A few people got disqualified today cuz their clothes were too big.

@Gebri3l 2 года назад

@@Ripz-TnT it can still be done outside of the competitions.

@Ripz-TnT 2 года назад

@@Gebri3l Wouldn't that just be the sport of Wingsuiting?

@deedeedoit5901 2 года назад

Vox posted it first though

@BassBanj0 2 года назад

We all know it's because Red Bull gives you wings

@shirtsVskins 2 года назад

This is soooooo 6 hours ago

@Mr3344555 2 года назад

Are Vox and Cheddar the same company?

@ThinkTwice2222 2 года назад

Assuming you don't Quit on your team

@matfhju 6 месяцев назад

Yess skii jumping is suuper safe, as long as you land propperly. Jokes aside when somone starts out training to doo skii jumps like these, they train on smaler jumps first, there is also a lott of practice in the gym they then gradually increase the sice of the hill along with their skill. So when they are on these bigg monster jumps. They have already learned everything nesseseary to do this madness safely.

@ScrappyPower 2 года назад

Wait, what? Vox make a video about the same thing literally a few hours before you! Was there some kind of collaboration here? If not, who copied who?

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

Hi! So neither of us copied the other. Given that these videos take at least a few weeks to produce, what likely happened is that each of us in our respective team meetings thought that some Winter Olympics-themed videos would be nice. And this topic seems to have a particular appeal given that it's fairly niche for American audiences and very visually interesting.

@SnailSlugSlut 2 года назад

2032 is Summer Olympics

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

Omg you're right....how embarrassing of me to not just add 12 instead of 10 like a FOOL

@tomtheplummer7322 2 года назад

I hate when they start adding style points to stuff that farthest, fastest, highest, heaviest, etc. should be the only measurement for winning.

@AvB.83 2 года назад

As others have said already, the limit is pretty much determined by the hill. There is a video by german TV station SWR ("So weit können Skispringer maximal fliegen"), sadly yet without english subtitles, where they are quoting scientists who calculated all the air resistance, distance, angles etc., coming to the result that with the right angle of the hill, going from 233 meters to 500 meters would only result in an increase in landing velocity of about 1.5%. Their suit & the skies basically work as the worst wingsuit ever, and they reach terminal velocity before the current world record mark. As far as I know there are also rules that limit the size of the hill, but if anyone with enough money to modify an existing slope (I'm suprised Red Bull didn't already do this, but Elon Musk, if you're watching this, buy a mountain and convert it into the greatest ski jumping hill of all times) or with a mountain big enough gets in on it, there will be athletes willing to try it. Although when it comes to the size of the mountains you build those ramps on, you can't go too high above sea level, or else the lack of air will prevent long jumps.

@FedericoTrentonGame 2 года назад

idk why this one felt too much patronizing in the exposition compared to previous cheddar videos or it's just my impression?

@geropereyrairaola7984 2 года назад

C'mon, Vox just uploaded the SAME video on this very particular unpopular topic, coincidence? Or enigma of the Mystical??

@bowbow1034 Месяц назад

No mention of Michael Phelps in lots of medal category is stupid

@ThePapaja1996 2 года назад

womens have newer been allowed to compete in nordic compination in os.

@munozrick 2 года назад

So you injured your left arm trying a jump? ;)

@raymondmeyers8983 2 года назад

There isn’t a Winter Olympics in 2032

@anonymousme4583 2 года назад

I kinda like the presenter now, with the humor and stuff, i was slightly against it when it started, the format. 🙂

@vladrazym9955 2 года назад

Farther or fUrther?

@TheNoerdy 2 года назад

Man they must be bummed that Vox beat them lol

@karinshedd7334 2 года назад

Nah! Now we can all ride the ski jump hype wave together.

@YASIRALIVIRK 2 года назад

@Kassap.72 2 года назад

There will be no winter games in 2032 🤣

@maxi-g 2 года назад

please no facecam of the host

@1SlipperyPenguin 2 года назад

Who is she

@isaacstone7899 2 года назад

Swimmers who have more fat more floats, skate figure changed rule no longer accept flip. I think gymnastics beam and floor should change rules too, they need to land once. They can’t make up balance after twice jumping land.

@mosesmilliman 2 года назад

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@greenmilklatte 2 года назад

Why's she talking like William Shatner tho🙃

@NeonNijahn 2 года назад

They should just add wing suits

@rustymustard7798 2 года назад

Hell yeah!

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@Hanfmeister 2 года назад

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@swaggery 2 года назад

How can ski jumping be as safe as curling. I'm sure having your face sandpapered by snow pass you at nearly 100 km/h doesn't feel great.

@liefschneider3123 2 года назад

RIGHT?!? WTF was that comment. I could maybe get behind if they said something like hockey, snowboarding, etc, but curling?? No, I find that completely insulting and I don't even ski jump.