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How Slow is the DRZ400sm? DRZ400sm vs YZ450sm comparo! 

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We hear riders say the drz is slow. So we headed out to get the exact answer: How slow is a drz compared to a proper supermoto race bike. We compare laptimes, try not to crash into students, talk drz vs yz450sm, and just rip around with our instructor Scott.

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@johnnypuetz
@johnnypuetz 4 года назад
Hit the like button for the DRZ. Show some love!
@tezzaupnorth
@tezzaupnorth 4 года назад
The drz did well considering the horse power difference and the drz was made as a reliable trail tractor not a race bike.
@6226superhurricane
@6226superhurricane Год назад
sm is the detuned street version and has 23% less power than the Enduro drz.
@tezzaupnorth
@tezzaupnorth Год назад
Yep, but who leaves a bike standard these days. I have an SM and love it, I reckon it handles better with the MX style suspension with dirt rims on it and it only takes like 1/2 hours to change the wheels.
@gjh400
@gjh400 4 года назад
I have a DRZ SM and it's literally one of the funnest things I ever bought.
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
Right?! I’m on number 60 or something :)
@maxbrap
@maxbrap 3 года назад
These and TW200s are way more fun than they should be. I've had 7 DRZ400SMs about 40 TWs (owned an MSF motorcycle school) Slow bikes fast: This is The Way
@__tacocat__
@__tacocat__ Месяц назад
I agree
@EreksonJ
@EreksonJ 4 года назад
Now do 2 stroke vs 4 stroke with a 2 stroke rider and a 4 stroke rider putting down laps with each bike. That would be interesting.
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
EreksonJ great idea, on it! I have the perfect rider for it too
@MotardChris
@MotardChris 4 года назад
socalsupermoto Gina!!
@Georgeqaws
@Georgeqaws 2 года назад
I have a feeling a 4 stroke would win on a track setting.
@brucesmotorcycleshop3729
@brucesmotorcycleshop3729 4 года назад
Great video guys! We're going supermoto riding tomorrow here in Germany and after watching this I'm even more pumped! 😋😉
@lennieliriano87
@lennieliriano87 4 года назад
Awesome video ! Drs400sm rider here 🤙🏽 it feels good to have pro’s give good feedback on the dizzer!!
@tpow2651
@tpow2651 4 года назад
Also it's lacking 50 extra ccs :) I'd say it stacks up pretty well! Good video
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
tpow good point!
@Tommy-iv4cd
@Tommy-iv4cd 4 года назад
Just bought a new Drz400sm here in Chicago. My first new bike ❤
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
Congrats! Fly out for a school day next winter!
@bojangle100
@bojangle100 4 года назад
I bought a DRZ after a session at SoCal Supermoto. So much fun
@michaelpatterson3663
@michaelpatterson3663 4 года назад
I just sold my DRZ sm a few months ago and got a Ducati 821 hypermotard....but I'm already missing that old workhorse! Once I got that bike set up and dialed in I never had to do anything except change the oil. I rode the piss out of it for 20,000 miles. I even won a Nor Cal supermoto race and podiumed in 3 AFM roadraces with it...sometimes I'd commute to work on it the morning after racing it...lol
@HappyHandsGaming
@HappyHandsGaming 4 года назад
Michael Patterson does the hypermotard still have a sumo feel? Or is it its own thing
@coloradosupermoto8046
@coloradosupermoto8046 4 года назад
I really want to do the same test with a novice racer. Great video!
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
Supermoto Informer will do!
@nightwing2348
@nightwing2348 4 года назад
a full comparison of the supermoto range would be wicked! cant find a video of that any where, at least a decent one like i feel you guys would do. thanks for the comparison.
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
We have a older 6 bike shootout that is still pretty relative
@MotorHeadGreg
@MotorHeadGreg 4 года назад
Would be a cool comparison to put a slightly more modified DRZ against the YZ. I have a 434, cams, and FCR in mine and makes 45.5hp to the wheel. May get a slight bump in lap times. All in all, probably cheaper than a race bike build. Also, I run the Conti Attack SM EVO on mine, but been itching to try the q3+ since they arew a bit cheaper and my sportbike buddies love em!
@HeyAddieImTojo
@HeyAddieImTojo 2 года назад
I know this is a year late. But i am in the same tire situation. I have used Conti attack sm’s for a while. Not really ”dared” to switch to another tire if i would ve disappointed. How would you compare the contis to the q3+? IF you made the switch. Thanks.
@MaxysDailyMadness
@MaxysDailyMadness 3 года назад
I really need to get over for a track day with you guys!
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 3 года назад
We're still at it and ready when you are!
@damianbartlett4868
@damianbartlett4868 4 года назад
So fun!
@racingwithbigt
@racingwithbigt 2 года назад
great comparison
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 2 года назад
thanks brother!
@tonyd7164
@tonyd7164 4 года назад
had the same experience on my DRZ-SM at sonoma kart track sumo day. was fun but would get worked by a proper 450SM. just a little down on power, little too much weight. the bike was slow and heavy too. ; )
@WuFluChan
@WuFluChan 4 года назад
Great concept for a vid👍 the only thing that keeps me away from the drzs is the weight I wouldn’t worry about the power if they weren’t so heavy
@oliverzbinden3762
@oliverzbinden3762 4 года назад
A drz is not heavy lol i have a dr750 that weights 200kg/450lbs and that bike is over 3 times my weight. It even outruns my buddies 300 2stroke but its exhausting to ride fast 😂
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
They carry it well. For example a xr650r is the same weight and rides like a tank
@perfectjohnson3510
@perfectjohnson3510 3 года назад
Do some Push-ups with your Noodle 🍜 arms and Get yourself a DRZ
@darthorpheus
@darthorpheus 3 года назад
I already lol when ppl cry about the weight of a vehicle. You’re not lifting it. Learn to use your friction zone and the weight won’t matter. You sound afraid to drop it.
@Pushing_the_cathinone_limits_
@Pushing_the_cathinone_limits_ 4 года назад
Ok , so I had an fcr installed on my drz 400 s and I don't think its made a huge difference . What should I be looking for ? It seems to pull harder but not crazy noticeable. Makes a nice chirping noise when pulling. My fuel consumption hasn't changed at all. Any pointers? Bike is running standard cams with big bore E header
@catalinaracing38super51
@catalinaracing38super51 4 года назад
ThumperTalk, DRZ forum, look for the jetting spread sheet.
@matthewjayjack8143
@matthewjayjack8143 4 года назад
I just bought a DRZsm, why didn't anybody tell me!?! j/k, I knew. Still happy, should be fun to learn the ways of the sumo(and DS with wheel swap)
@cal40888
@cal40888 3 года назад
is the 450cc engine size limit on your website for races only? Would I be able to bring my 2007 525 exc here for an open practice session?
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 3 года назад
The track insurance only covers up to 450cc. That said I see a lot of larger bikes there so no worries
@cmbscx1084
@cmbscx1084 4 года назад
Awesome vid. Going to check our your website to see when the noob classes are.
@moto67e
@moto67e 4 года назад
Every class is a noob class and every class is a expert class. Everyone will get something out of taking a class.
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
What scott said, come on out!
@mmelling4410
@mmelling4410 Год назад
Great video guys. Loved it. Does the drz400 in this video have a flatslide carb or?
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto Год назад
Thanks brother!
@johnboy2251
@johnboy2251 4 года назад
His white boots tricked me. I thought for a second, "this guys in sneakers? "
@abayasugen8446
@abayasugen8446 4 года назад
Lol thought the same thing, I thought he just wore sneakers cos hes a boss.
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
Oh man my ankles start hurting when I see someone riding in sneakers
@smeggysmeg2837
@smeggysmeg2837 3 года назад
sold my drz400sm to get more into dirt, bought a ktm 350 exc-f. miss the drz believe it or not. sure the excf is the "better" bike performance wise, but just something about the dizzer i love. call it character. next bike will be the sm again with a set of dirt wheels. always concerned about racking up miles on the excf and tired of that
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 3 года назад
I hear ya!
@calumkz
@calumkz 4 года назад
I want to see the test done with a DRZ that has a big bore, cams, suspension, slipper clutch and MOTO master front brake set up next! Will be interesting too see how much closer it can come while still maintaining that lower maintenance.
@darthorpheus
@darthorpheus 3 года назад
Lower maintenance come from not doing any of that shit to the engine.
@rtroy66
@rtroy66 4 года назад
On the yz what wheels are you using?
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
Rusty Nuts macaronis! I mean marchesini
@lloyd31alive
@lloyd31alive 2 года назад
Great riding
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto Год назад
That's scott. He's coming back to be a student. I have no idea what I'm gonna be able to teach him :)
@stefanopallini814
@stefanopallini814 4 года назад
Drz 😁👍🇮🇹
@daveross1968
@daveross1968 3 года назад
What kind of tires did you say we're on the drz?
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 3 года назад
Dunlop q3+ ftw!
@mountaineer1706
@mountaineer1706 4 года назад
I always wonder how my xr650L supermoto would match up against a drz. I also have a wr450f supermoto. The wr is wicked.
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
Those are pretty equal
@MelvinMelv10
@MelvinMelv10 4 года назад
wich dunlop tire was on the drz ?
@moto67e
@moto67e 4 года назад
Dunlop Q3+
@MelvinMelv10
@MelvinMelv10 4 года назад
@@moto67e thanks ;).
@shreveswat
@shreveswat 4 года назад
why didnt you guys run the dirt section?
@moto67e
@moto67e 4 года назад
The track had the dirt section closed.
@michaelmckay
@michaelmckay 4 года назад
What pressure do you run on the Q3+?
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
Mike McKay 21ish trackday, 27ish street
@michaelmckay
@michaelmckay 4 года назад
@@socalsupermoto Thank you! I bought these because of your recommendation.
@etyrnal
@etyrnal 2 года назад
is this comparison being made against a "completely prep'd" race dr-z?
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 2 года назад
in between. Rubber killers, q3+ tires, suspension clickers turned, so track prepped but not race prepped if that helps.
@John-vr3po
@John-vr3po Год назад
I have 2021S. Thinking of putting 17” front and putting street tire on 18” rear. Any thoughts? Trying to keep from buying stuff I don’t need
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto Год назад
That will work. In your situation I'd simply buy some 18/21 "90/10" tires, but it on the stock bike and go to town. Basically ride supermoto, trails, street, whatever. Basically a awesome modern day scrambler. Then if you find yourself doing sm trackdays a bunch then spring for the 17's set.
@John-vr3po
@John-vr3po Год назад
@@socalsupermoto thank you very much for the reply. As you’re involved in racing you seem valid. Do you recommend any certain brands?
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto Год назад
@@John-vr3po if you go 17s I'd go with toxic moto racing and dunlop q5. for 90/10 tires I havn't played with them in a while
@PeterOlexa_
@PeterOlexa_ 4 года назад
I have 2020 KTM EXC-F 500. Want to convert it into supermoto, whats some good supermoto gearing?
@bastihuber7477
@bastihuber7477 4 года назад
Depends on what u want to do with it
@PeterOlexa_
@PeterOlexa_ 4 года назад
@@bastihuber7477 Riding in town and during the weekends on 60mph roads.
@rolandtiiroja
@rolandtiiroja 4 года назад
that's so sad that they dont sell drz's in europe any more. some bs laws. drz is my goals bike atm :(((
@filmedit8555
@filmedit8555 4 года назад
Sick video! Is the drz healthy backfiring like that? mine has started to sound the same.
@markhalden3922
@markhalden3922 4 года назад
If I'm really hardnon the engine braking my pops and crackles but under normal riding it's fine. From what I've read if you have backfires just slowing down normally you have problems.
@luisguzman3848
@luisguzman3848 4 года назад
Mark Halden what kind of problem we talking about mine does it :( i think it's just the jetting
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
If it’s bad just means you gotta repack your Pipe most likely. If bad then exhaust leak
@natesv04
@natesv04 Год назад
​@@luisguzman3848 exhaust leak, timing, valves needing adjustment
@nealpennington223
@nealpennington223 4 года назад
Skinny Santa can ride!
@user-dv7hb2sc9m
@user-dv7hb2sc9m 3 месяца назад
I'm just looking to buy a bike & the difference I see is the YZ is gonna require a lot more attention if I understood correctly? For the average dummy like me, changing oil & doing valve checks isn't my strong point. I think how road friendly & maint free it is is more attractive. If I wanted, "Fast"... I'd want the YZ. We like to compare but reliable & low maint is what most people want. Thanks for the videos, now I know you guys. peace
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 3 месяца назад
If street just get the drz! Or a wr250x
@user-dv7hb2sc9m
@user-dv7hb2sc9m 3 месяца назад
Ahh, yes.... both those are high up on my list although the DRZ's are plentiful which might be a good thing at my current stage. Thanks for taking the time, I do appreciate it. peace
@karlsbikestunts
@karlsbikestunts 3 года назад
What purpose does dangling your foot out on every corner like an Uber eats deliveroo on a scooter serve apart from snapping your ankle Just asking
@karlsbikestunts
@karlsbikestunts 3 года назад
No need to reply your next vblog answered my question Cheers
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 3 года назад
sorry, I'm horrible at answering comments. As long as you don't do the "leg dangle" no need to worry about snapping it. Keep it close to the bike and foot forward and all is good!
@lumberjaxe8910
@lumberjaxe8910 2 года назад
@jonny allan Helps prevent the front wheel from drifting, resulting in more control and faster times.
@patw9175
@patw9175 4 года назад
It's only been 2 weeks and I already miss my drz :(
@camarotwofast
@camarotwofast 2 года назад
You need to do a drz with bb440 and a 41mm for carb
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 2 года назад
Not sure the youtube dollars will justify the cost :)
@burgersquid
@burgersquid 4 года назад
Q3s on the DRZ feel like your favorite pair of sneakers.
@grumpysquid
@grumpysquid 4 года назад
Sat on a DRZ400SM and was turned off by the heavy weight, carburetor. I’m new to bikes, 5’8, 175, 32” inseam. Those KLX250’s kinda appeal to me
@atypical_moto
@atypical_moto 4 года назад
What is the approximate power difference? 15hp?
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
Interesting View 10ish
@atypical_moto
@atypical_moto 4 года назад
@@socalsupermoto would you attribute most of the time gains to that HP difference or is there some advantages in suspension and brakes as well?
@toad3222
@toad3222 4 года назад
@@atypical_moto the drz is a bit heavier too
@atypical_moto
@atypical_moto 4 года назад
@NoNoNoNii how does the 701 Husky compare? That will probably be my next bike. I ride a motorcycle full time so if it's not setup to be street legal, I don't want it. I feel like it's cheating to haul a bike to the track. If you didn't ride it to the track, it doesn't count lol. I know the 701 is heavy, so there's that.
@thekamikaze789
@thekamikaze789 4 года назад
@@atypical_moto get a 650 husaberg :P Its even streetlegal. 65ish hp and ~120kg if you remove e-start + batery. But yea its still a racebike. So racebike service too. (5-7h oil etc)
@sciencemilitia1853
@sciencemilitia1853 4 года назад
You would love an XR650R.
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
I’ve ridden em all, freeway bombing the brp is amazing, track not so much
@sciencemilitia1853
@sciencemilitia1853 4 года назад
socalsupermoto I agree if we’re talking stock forks. USD fork swapped xrs are good
@chamodhpathum237
@chamodhpathum237 Год назад
Drz ❤
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto Год назад
yup!
@Mike-hk6rw
@Mike-hk6rw 3 года назад
Miss American supermoto on tv
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 3 года назад
Me too, but here in socal all the pros are at the local tracks, so we get to watch it in person. I really do enjoy the s1gp euro series as well
@iShowUnusualBehavior
@iShowUnusualBehavior 3 года назад
To be fair though the guy was alot more comfortable on his personal 450.
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 2 года назад
yep, but pretty damn comfy on the drz too!
@wheeleking9049
@wheeleking9049 4 года назад
I never understood why anyone would want a tall awkward Super-moto bike over a nice low crotch rocket. Especially, if you like going over 50mph like on Fwys. But, If I *had to have one*. I would rather save a lot of time & money & just get a plated XR650r.
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
WheelEKing I find sportbikes zero fun and uncomfortable, but to each their own. Everything you learn on a sm crosses over
@wheeleking9049
@wheeleking9049 4 года назад
@@socalsupermoto Yup, everyones different. Most my videos are just offroad.
@csplmr
@csplmr 4 года назад
I rode sportbikes all my life , had them all. I had a ninja 600 back in 1988. I have never had so much fun on a motorcycle then my wr450 sm. Sure it is not a freeway bike, but for backroads, and in town it is fantastic. I can hop curbs, wheeile all day, and then take off down a trail or dirt road.
@Tommy-iv4cd
@Tommy-iv4cd 4 года назад
@@socalsupermoto I started riding dirt bikes now I ride a Drz400sm around Chicago and drive across country on road trips. A harley or sport bike are boring and uncomfortable to me.
@moorepower13
@moorepower13 4 года назад
I wanna think " ive never understood" is easy to translate to "ive never ridden an SM"
@garrison2574
@garrison2574 2 года назад
drz sounds lean at idle from the pops
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 2 года назад
wouldn't doubt it, many of the pipes could use some packing. These bikes get ridden hard!
@catalinaracing38super51
@catalinaracing38super51 4 года назад
DRZ 35-38 RWHP, YZ +50 RWHP
@ThePleds
@ThePleds 4 года назад
@NoNoNoNii why dont you show us on the doll where the drz touched you?
@mtang2595
@mtang2595 4 года назад
he is fast cause he took your class like 100 times already
@moto67e
@moto67e 4 года назад
You're not wrong.
@mtang2595
@mtang2595 4 года назад
@@moto67e hey scott, btw where did you get ur MICHELIN POWER SUPERMOTO tires
@moto67e
@moto67e 4 года назад
@@mtang2595 From Alex at DRT racing. I have Metzlers on my bike in the video that I got from Alex.
@OnceUponASundayxxx
@OnceUponASundayxxx 4 года назад
It's the rider, not the bike...
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
Which is why we used the same rider!
@ShaneZettelmier
@ShaneZettelmier Год назад
I think it’s like every other category of bike, people just like to complain and nitpick because they read magazines and have ridiculous expectations. Just like any other bike in any other category, the truth is 99% of the riders out there have more bike then talent. You take this guy races and put them up against 99% of the riders out there and on a DRZ he will blow them away on a full blown race bike. The DRC is a pretty good all-around bike. It’s not the greatest it’s not the fastest, but it’s more than capable and most people will be better putting that extra money into gas and practicing, because it’s far more Kibodeaux than most writers. Or you spend tons of money upgrading everything as much as I could doing all the performance mods and that’s fun but it gives you potential but unless you’re a serious racer putting in tons of hours you’re not gonna have the skills to outride a DRZ 400 SM anyway so it’s really not gonna make it much faster, if you’re drag racing and doing long straightaways then yeah the mods help but on a twisty Turny track the bike is 5% of the equation the other 95% is your skill And I’m not bagging other people I’m the same way, you put me out there on a race bike and this guy on a DRZ and he’ll run circles around me but a lot of people have this attitude like Bikes like the DRC just suck and are useless but the truth is the bike is much faster than 99% of the riders who have them anyway and the upgrades aren’t gonna give them much faster lap times
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto Год назад
Yup! that's pretty much it!
@seanhoke22
@seanhoke22 3 года назад
4 seconds that's it? Shoot drz works for me!
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 3 года назад
that's the point. in racing that's huge, in feel and in having fun it's no real difference
@seanhoke22
@seanhoke22 3 года назад
@@socalsupermoto fun factor is all I'm after
@sdqsdq6274
@sdqsdq6274 4 года назад
stock drz ,of course its slower then yz450 a off road bike with more hp
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 2 года назад
that wasn't the question. We figured out exactly how much slower and the question is wether that's worth the trade for you?
@soamazzzing
@soamazzzing 2 года назад
well dam find me DRZ SM for 3200 then ...Please
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 2 года назад
There's some very clean ones in the 4200 range.
@hersheytate8304
@hersheytate8304 2 года назад
I cannot like this video because it currently has 666 likes and I'm a douche like that. Just wanted to say my guess was 10% and I feel validated by this accuracy.
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 2 года назад
fair enough!
@hersheytate8304
@hersheytate8304 2 года назад
@@socalsupermoto LOL - I do in fact like this video so I'm gonna let my childish tendencies take a back seat. Cheers!
@DavidSmith-jj5pr
@DavidSmith-jj5pr 4 года назад
wear are your masks. it's right there on the whiteboard
@1CreativeRider
@1CreativeRider 4 года назад
Yeah... duh, guys... come on... we want you to be around a long time talking SM.
@ThePleds
@ThePleds 4 года назад
Yeah we wouldn't want you to get that overblown flu with 99.94% survival rate
@grumpysquid
@grumpysquid 4 года назад
The Pleds LOL right??????
@smeggysmeg2837
@smeggysmeg2837 3 года назад
chill out and live your own life
@adrianmarcinczak2104
@adrianmarcinczak2104 11 месяцев назад
Your father?
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 11 месяцев назад
no but I'm gonna tease him about that. if he was I'd have faster genes
@lumberjaxe8910
@lumberjaxe8910 2 года назад
Funny enough the Drze is faster.
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto Год назад
well it's close is the point.
@hypernothing9832
@hypernothing9832 3 года назад
Please wear a mask inside... busted.
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 2 года назад
was wondering how long that would take? full vax healthcare worker here so no worries.
@MrGrace123
@MrGrace123 2 года назад
I am gonna type here the percent that the drz will be slower, let's see how close I will be. 18% slower Btw I have a drz 400s too :)
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 2 года назад
only 9 percent!
@tylersmith261
@tylersmith261 4 года назад
What a stupid video. Why would you compare an enduro to a race bike? The comparable bike is a Rmz450. At least compare 2 bikes that are in the same class.
@socalsupermoto
@socalsupermoto 4 года назад
To answer one of the most common question that riders have for me: how does a drz compare to a race bike! Just because you’re not interested does not make it stupid right?
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