How Sonic Frontiers Redeemed Itself 

I love how this game was basically the complete inverse of Forces and 06 in terms of comparing the pre release to the final game

one of the greatest redemption arcs of all time

Sonic frontiers is definitely a step in the right direction, I really hope sega listens to the criticism cuz they could potentially make the best sonic game to date using the concepts the game bases itself on

The biggest issue I have is the pop-in. In a 3D Sonic game, seeing what's further than 10 feet in front of you is a must.

The spin dash in this game has such a unique mechanic, like it uses the boost meter in order to work

If they ever make another open world sonic game, I'm hoping for a return to the Sonic and the Black Knight world. Mostly for the sword combat though.

I didn’t like the game at its launch but now after these updates, I have changed my mind.

Before the updates after i beat the game i had no reason to come back to it. But now? I’m playing nonstop trying to collect every memory token and now i can’t wait for update 3

Quality video! I can tell you put some time in to it. Looking forward to the next!

I feel like if i sat frontiers is my favorite game people will go like "is it because its the latest?" No the reason its my favorite is because it has alot of replayableite. Running around in a open world spindashing and flinging yourself around is and i cant wait for update 3 btw generations is my second favorite now cuz of frontiers

Can’t IGN do anything right? I’m so glad that Sonic Frontiers got its redemption!

I hope SEGA makes ALWAYS Sonic games like Frontiers from now on, such as Sonic's combat fighting with his fists and legs, exploring the places instead of running only too fast in one direction, more stylish Sonic outfits, SonAmy moments and more playable Sonic characters (Amy is my most favorite).

Holy crap you are really underrated. This vid is so good i expected you to have way more subs. Lemme add 1 to that amount. If you keep this up you're gonna blow up someday

this is gonna be a big channel and im here for it

yo love this sorta content keep up the great work cuz I'm working on a video/video sersise kinda like your video going over the beginning of the reveal and after when the game released.

You know what would make sonic frontier better??? If they added in wild pokemon he could encounter and do battle with. This the perfect world to have pokemon in.

To me frontiers didn’t need nor give redemption it gave the sonic name a new brighter future. The game was always enjoyable and the updates as they should are just keeping the fun going.

Interesting! Keep up the good work!

Btw sonic frontiers isn’t the highest selling sonic game. It’s the highest selling 3d sonic game

0:45 I’m sorry but no, there’s a huge difference that was explained pretty clearly. Open World - focuses on being a WORLD for the player to exist in. This places an emphasis on story and selling the illusion of a real, lived-in location. Most open worlds are designed with gameplay in mind, but don’t exist expressly for the sake of gameplay. Examples include Red Dead Redemption 2, the Watch Dogs games, Shenmue, etc. Open Zone - The map(s) (often more than one since there are multiple Zones in a sonic game) are designed first and foremost for gameplay opportunities and are action-centric rather than being designed for “role-playing” as Sega put it. Modern examples include Super Mario Odyssey, Yooka-Laylee, and of course Sonic Frontiers. Sega didn’t create the open zone game, but they did finally name it.

One thing that should be stated that definitely had some effect on its positive reception: the music. The OST and specifically the boss music is so stellar that it was actually a prime reason I bothered with the game. I actually wasn’t even aware of the roadmap. Hearing they are adding more playable characters I’ll have to go back and try it out when that happens.

To be honest with you guys i think this game will be peak when update 3 comes out but i know i might get hate for saying this but i still think 06 needs a remake they haven't given that to us that game had so much potential that was lost and i cant wait for superstars and also i cant wait for update 3 and soon this game might be the best sonic game we got in a while

Dont forget it has the best video game commercial idea used "Dont stop me now" by Queen as the music is genius!

i actually found the reused level themes to be one of my favorite parts of the game's cyberspace levels. finding the layout that was sky rail, city escape and chu-nan day made me immensely giggly

I do love Sonic Frontiers but it is one of those games that I beat once but never play again. I was feeling pretty burnt out by the time I was done with just running around the open world. Found myself having no reason to turn it on again. This is fine though. There are games like that.

Subbed, Sonic is one of my favorite gaming characters of all time, he rules awesome video man! 🙌😃

This guy deserves more subscribers

Been enjoying sonic frontiers since I got it from Best Buy which was 2 days ago. Excited to see if we can get more updates 😁

I came for Sonic video, then I decided to stay after hearing P4 music at the end. Great work King, sub for you!

It was definitely a good game, the open world segments wete hit and miss for me. But you can definitely see the developers really tried in places. I would have loved to see something like the choas from sonic adventure as a nice break from the main game. Soundtrack was rocking as alwasy.

I'm still playing the Game even with the new updates, and still having fun finding new ways to complete the world challenges, fighting the Titans, and enjoying the islands, and music.

great video!

Frontiers really did pull through after that initial gameplay reveal. I personally found the game to be good and the updates have only helped the game become more quality. Here’s to hoping that Sonic team simple does what worked in frontiers and the updates and simply improves on those concepts.

Still wish we could play as supersonic in the over world and cyberspace

i recently bought this game and didn't do before bc i was afraid of another delusion, but man i really enjoyed it! the last game that i enjoyed this much was unleashed, and i'm so happy that frontiers is the most sold 3d sonic game, hope that is the new direction of future games 👌

Hey what's the level music at 5:25? So familiar!

I need to know the mods you used. That jump ball and the lack of homing delay looks really cool!

I bought this game on release day and played it for a few hours and never touched it again. As a big sonic fan and seeing these updates I’m probably going to get back into this game now

and there still update 3 to came out... really i cant wait for that moment to happen and see how is the game gonna look at the end.

I loved sonic frontiers at launch and I want a story dlc and a sequel in the future

Correction: Combat was a significant element in Sonic Heroes, in addition to Sonic Unleashed's Werehog stages.

Are you using a jump ball mod? I dont remember the blur behind it

When those first showcases released I wanted to just completely drop all interest in the game, but I held out hope that it was just bad marketing. Once the better marketing started, I guessed that it would be a 7/10 Once I started playing, I had it as 8/10, but the second half dropped that to 6/10. Honestly, the sonic fan in me wanted to say 7/10, but the game developer in me won out. After my first playthrough, I never touched it without mods. But when Update 2 came out, I could finally play without mods again! The biggest issue is the story, which Update 3 will seemingly fix. As you can tell, my respect for fellow game developers makes me kinda stubborn with rankings, but Sonic Frontiers could honestly end as a 9/10 in my eyes. I'm finally hopefully for Sonic's future! And great video!

I deserve more subs for all the effort u put into those videos

I am SO HYPED TO PLAY AS THE OTHER CHARACTERS AGAIN

I remember when they released the first gameplay reveal and it looked slow and everyone hated it but then they more or less released the same trailer but slightly faster and slightly more stuff and people just lost their shit. It was hilarious

Are you going to do videos about main line sonic games first and then spinnoffs

Super sonic looks like the original super saiyan depiction from the frieza saga on the thumbnail😅

I knew i played some of those levels in Generations before! Wish they'd do more levels that wasn't just, Green Hill, Chemical Plant, Sky Sanctuary, and the oddly City Escape esk cyber levels

9:27 They shouldn’t make a “Sonic Fromtiers 2” they should make a new game using and improving upon the mechanics and concepts of this game, they don’t have to directly make a sequel if this story has found its conclusion, that will hold back potential choices for what their next open world will look like

My greatest criticism of Update 2 is how you unlock it's Spin-Dash. Honestly felt like they didn't have any real faith people would be interested in playing the Action Chain Challenges, so they dangled a well requested feature like a pair of shiny keys in front of us, and basically hinders it's overall usefulness to VERY late game/post game cleanup. I love it, don't get it twisted, but they really should've put it behind the Skill Tree, or really, just let us have it from the get go. And even with Update 2, I'd hesitate to say the game is "Redeemed" it's certainly miles better than what it was in 2022, but we still have stuff like the final act basically taking a huge faceplant in terms of story and aesthetics. The rumor mill does imply Update 3 will directly address these concerns, and hopefully that will be true, but still can't really say the game is redeemed in good faith just yet

Love the persona ending :)

“Longest sonic game up until that point” Bro forgot about Sonic Unleashed.

I don't think the game was all that bad at launch, even now it's still got problems. But I still use default controls and I think the game has decent navigation, but I do appreciate getting new things to do. But some flaws will probably always be there (combat, automation, later islands being frustrating to navigate)

this game was so fun when i played, probably my favourite sonic experience in a long time

Even Sonic Team agrees that they were rushed for the ending...here's hoping for more manpower and a more flexible deadline for Sonic's next 3D adventure!

I miss when games were for fun and we didn't have all this reviews where everyone is expert and where internet influences the value of any thing ..

Is the ball part of a mod or the game itself?

We just need an official release of a more complete Green Hill Paradise - Act 2 :D

I wonder if the trend of sonic looking bad only to be good on release will continue. First the sonic movie and now sonic frontiers

Wait they've added momentum? I think I need to go back and play the game again, momentum was sorely missed the first time round!

I just want to correct you: Sonic Frontiers already had that momentum you talked about when it released. It just was not used in the game that much, mostly just launching off rails and platforms when boosting. The new platforming challenges however do use it kinda, they make you boost off the platforms to reach other platforms, which is a neat touch.

Haven’t touched a sonic game since heroes and battle 2… time to cop… can’t wait. Reviews are going nuts.

One thing I've always wanted to do that you still can't do is.. Once you've finished the game like, you should have a mode whereby you can transform into super sonic at any given time like in the old mega drive games sonic 1,2,3 when you got all the emeralds you could transform as soon as you got 50 rings or whatever, that was the coolest shit man.

I disliked the lack of momentum, however once I saw they addressed that on update 2, I brought the game. This caught out of guard, they actually did it.

Frontiers 2 is gonna be godlike

Looks like in need to update my file. Haven't played in months

I enjoyed this game at launch and will just wait until all updates are released. I just wish all of this stuff was there from the beginning.

Sega is like nintendo, 10 years behind on their rivals

First sonic game I wanted to play since generations I love sonic he’s literally my first video game ever and frontiers was amazing like it wasn’t perfect but it ain’t suppose to be perfect people will trash this game and not even make it out the first world like I get it not everyone is going to like it but sometimes I feel people are hating just soo they can be different from the rest 😂😂

Loved this game since the initial reveal. I did not understand the negativity. Just imagining myself running at 1000 mph as Sonic through the revealed level and climbing towers ❤ the popping was bad but I grew up during the psx games so I am ok with objects popping out 😅😂 I finished Sonic Frontiers twice and had so much fun. I hope they remove stupid minigames for the sequel and improve the animations, offer more biomes and better cutscenes. The rest for me was great: music, atmosphere, exploration, moves, fighting…

What mods do you use?

I'll give it another shot. By inland 3 I got tired of digital stages. Just skipped the last ones because I had enough whatever to advance and beat the story. Good overall but just that. Updates? I'll wait for 3 and replay I suppose.

I had no motivation to replay the game up until update 2

Never fully completed this game but I'm so glad we have something that's leading 3D sonic in the right direction.

I’m still not done even playing it ! 🔥

Every sonic game i played has been good

I haven't played any of the updates yet. I don't think it's worth playing little by little .... I'm waiting until all 3 updates come out and I can play a massive chunk of DLC at 1 time.

Genuinely a really good, fun game.

Even om launch Sonic Frontiers was, to me, a step in the right direction And the updates we got have proved to me that they're trying not to go backwards again

I really enjoyed Frontiers overall, but it ultimately left me with a sour taste due to the ending being pretty bad. I went back to it a few times until a bit after update 1's release and I haven't touched it since, but the recent update 3 trailer has me interested again as it seems it might be fixing my biggest issue with the game. I didn't even know until earlier today that update 2 added momentum. It really seems like the game is slowly getting every feature people have wanted from it and I've been totally oblivious to it the whole time, and Final Horizon is gonna be the icing on the cake. I think now I'm still gonna wait until update 3 to touch the game again, but I'm gonna replay it in its entirety with all the new changes. I'm interested in how momentum is gonna change the game and what uses the Spin Dash will have since I've always said boost games don't need it, and of course I'm hyped for this new Supreme battle and Super form. Frontiers was already a game I liked, but now it has a second chance to really wow me.

3:48 I dont think the model has changed since unleashed.

Frontiers is such an important sonic game.

Am i living in a parallel universe? I was there for the launch, i played it again 3 months ago to check if it had improved. The game is rife with pop-in rendering issues, reused assets, and they only used 4 texture packs in the cyberspace levels, the texture packs we already saw in Generations (the city theme is essentially just Unleashed's Skyscraper theme but dulled). Who the f*ck wants to visit Green Hill 9 whole times? This game felt like and still feels like a Unity Engine experiment tacked onto a Generations demo disc.

personally im not a big fan of sonic frontiers as of update 2. it was okay . i feeling there's a few things that 's missing with the game but i can't put my finger on it. here's hoping update 3 improves the story and i hope we could get more cyber space stages with the other characters. its not my favorite game but im Happy sonic is back on top

Even without replayability, i think sonic frontiers didnt need a redemption. A 25 or so hour game that is fun overall and has some amazing peaks is enough for me to give it the goty. And I LOVED Elden Ring. As much as I love it, it didnt make me sing loud and hop from my chair out of the sheer amount of fun I had playing frontiers for the first time.

7:17 is this a script error? It's the best selling 3D Sonic game, not the best selling Sonic game

I boycotted it on release but now I was thinking wat happened to Sonic Frontiers I literally forgot about the game, ngl I hate the fact that there is no drift or sidesteps that's literally the best part 6:50 Bruh just look at this, I was thinking y didn't u just sidestep but remembered u can't, plus I have the cyberspace levels feel like forces levels

Sure, it seems that way for now, but I have seen a heck of a lot of comments from fans regarding Sonic games and their mixed feelings (mostly dislike) of them for years now, people first say that said Sonic game has "redeemed" itself, but after some time, some of them will "sing a different tune" and realize that game has certain faults that they didn't see at first and afterwards deem it mediocre or lousy at the worst. Just you wait, it always ends up the same at the end of the day, it's things like this that made me apprehensive to play any Sonic game at this point, redemption or no redemption, it's gonna be the same song and dance, period.

I've heard many people say that sonic frontiers "is one of the worst games they've ever played" (most notably, Jonny RaZeR) to wich I say, what games are you playing? this game is the most 7.5/10 game ever, which means it's good, it's fun, but certainly not perfect.

They should have had a smaller zone or green hill as open zone

When talking about what Update 1 added to Sonic Frontiers, I often see people gloss over Power Boost in Cyberspace and Extreme difficulty. The power boost in Cyberspace give a very nice speed boost in most cyberspace stages and Extreme difficulty is the only somewhat challenging difficulty in the game, since you die in one hit and all the S-ranks are around as hard to get as 1-2 normally is. This are big improvements to the game, so to see people just not mention them gets on my nerves a bit. Update 2 is probably better overall, since it gives us momentum and the glorious spindash, but it feels wrong to underrepresent Update 1 like that.

Sonic Frontiers never failed to be redeemed in the first place. Is easily the best sonic game we've gotten since sonic generations and easily one of the top 3 sonic games ever made.

sonic frontiers could of been was a stand out hit, it was really good on release after up dates amazing but looking at the ideas they had for the game and the footage of the game. What it could of been is really just a bit sad tbh cause they had so many amazing ideas with gameplay and islands

11:17 fin.

did anyone else catch the Jpeg artifact in the top of Sonic's eye @ 2:41 before i did? How the f*ck do you miss a golden bar code like that? XD

Last time I saw gameplay of a game I was sceptical on was Star Wars Fallen Order. The gameplay shown off for it didn't make it look that interesting, but when it came out, people loved it. Bugs not withstanding (It's been a couple years so i doubt EA has allowed the first one to be patched)

Is momentum really that much of a game changer for the game?

After update 2, I went from my initial 25 hours of gameplay to 80!! Momentum, spindash, the option to turn off the cinematic camera and the list goes on. Can’t wait for update 3 :)

As a game artis opinion, I had much fun while playing the game, the only down side I had with this game was island 4 and the finall bosses. The first 3 boss battles with the titans in this game were so good with the music, and then you had supreme and the end. For me it felled like a letdown because supreme didnt had a creative new look like the other titans and was more like a 2.0 version of the first boss. It also didn't had any cool fight animations like the other titans. Also for 'the end', that was just a sphere with a purple moon texture. And the battle self wasnt really fun because in the normal mode, the battle was just a cutscene and in the difficult mode, it was just an shoot em up battle that wasn't really sonic style. I would like to think that these bosses had so much potential because of the hyping up during the game play but was never used. And for the 4th island, it was just a part of the first island lacking in area creativity. It was also a downside because There wasnt any real combat or new enemies during that time were you just run around aimlesly from tower to tower, making it les exciting to explore. But I have to say, I dig it with the huge forest theme, all in all, sonic frontiers was in my opinion a good sonic game until the part of the 4th island eploration and the end part with the finall boss battle where it kinda felt more like a rush job for me lacking in creative combat and excitement 🏝️🤖🌕