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How Strong is The Phoenix Force ? JEAN GREY PART 1 ~ White Phoenix of the Crown ~ X-Men 

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@aldogrof6700
@aldogrof6700 3 года назад
I feel people seriously underestimate the statement that the phoenix powers come from all life force and psionic from the past, present and future. It's always at full power it's just that certain individuals (Jean Grey) were the only one/s who could access it's full power which is omniversal.
@urickmann7768
@urickmann7768 3 года назад
yep which is why some host are stronger than others for instance jean would beat a namor with the full force even if she had only a small spark or none of its power at all
@Eudjier
@Eudjier 3 года назад
Exactly she's omniversal, and untouchable, she doesn't exist. Hence, the Phoenix Force, it's like there is emptiness, you can't grab her.
@mezmerized4lifejay654
@mezmerized4lifejay654 4 года назад
One of the strongest beings in comics. Only the One Above All is surely above her. The Living Tribunal was beat by The Beyonder I believe. Even The Beyonder was having problems with her. Not to mention her beating Galactus and over seeing his birth. She is power!!
@mrbrandtastic5473
@mrbrandtastic5473 4 года назад
Mezmerized4Life Jay keep in mind cyclops with the PF made god king doom scream. So jean grey could possibly beat him.
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 4 года назад
Beyonder never had problems with her he literally amped her up with his own power and she still couldn't even harm him Lols she's not even in the top 3
@mrbrandtastic5473
@mrbrandtastic5473 4 года назад
CHEESE BURGER FREDDY are you omnipresent or some shit?! You’re everywhere!
@mrbrandtastic5473
@mrbrandtastic5473 4 года назад
big man rasheed. Well a Phoenix host did make him go “...oh...” once.
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 4 года назад
@@mrbrandtastic5473 Lols
@stainshield
@stainshield 3 года назад
To me Jean Grey Summers will always be Phoenix.
@jairogers5876
@jairogers5876 3 года назад
By far the best ever!
@LaotianLover
@LaotianLover 2 года назад
Right Jean grey is the Phoenix. Don’t mess with the original!
@mikaylayore7077
@mikaylayore7077 10 месяцев назад
It’s been stated multiple times. “Jean is phoenix and phoenix is Jean” all other hosts are exactly just that “hosts”
@stainshield
@stainshield 10 месяцев назад
@@mikaylayore7077 yes and she should just keep that Codename instead of using her 1960s Codename Marvel Girl, because Phoenix is much cooler.
@diamantemrobinson
@diamantemrobinson Год назад
Well Defenders Beyond now confirmed she's 2nd to TOAA
@Ordinary_Mortal
@Ordinary_Mortal 4 года назад
I remember some kiddo saying that Raven can beat phoenix 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Edit: This isn't a comment section, this is a warzone
@UNKNOWN-qr7uo
@UNKNOWN-qr7uo 4 года назад
This guy danco made an video with “Top 10 characters that beat Dark Phoenix and Superman prime 1 million and Galactus are on that list.🧐😒
@sammieyoung2529
@sammieyoung2529 4 года назад
Lmao
@sammieyoung2529
@sammieyoung2529 4 года назад
@@UNKNOWN-qr7uo danco is a fanboy of Superman. Those are the worse when it comes to speaking on beings that can beat him. They will hurt themselves frantically searching for a way for their "hero" to beat the unbeatable.
@UNKNOWN-qr7uo
@UNKNOWN-qr7uo 4 года назад
sammie young True that Zeno could beat Superman Prime million.
@johnetheridge5833
@johnetheridge5833 4 года назад
A lot of people don't know that there is an earth where marvel and DC characters live
@silentmonk7338
@silentmonk7338 3 года назад
People always forget Jean Grey has a telepathic link with the Phoenix force. That telepathic link allows her to even tap into the powers of the phoenix force without being bonded to it like it is meant for her. I believe it is her mutation. She has the mutant power to tap into phoenix force. Jean Grey is the one true phoenix. She is the Phoenix and Phoenix is Jean. They are one and the same.
@Eudjier
@Eudjier 3 года назад
She is telepathic. That makes her powerful
@johannes7572
@johannes7572 2 года назад
Actually have a comic scan where death tells jean that the phoenix force like Excalibur is her birthright. And it will continue to be the birthright of her bloodline
@reynaldobariquit5167
@reynaldobariquit5167 2 года назад
that makes sense when she manifested the phoenix during the xmen apocalypse even if the phoenix was not bonded with her during that time
@Lucretia19
@Lucretia19 Год назад
Yes and some stans still saying that jean grey is nothing without the phoenix force
@Lucretia19
@Lucretia19 Год назад
@@reynaldobariquit5167 yes exactly
@danny-jd2gs
@danny-jd2gs 3 года назад
this video literally just made me look at all the other marvel powerhouses like jokes. she really defeats them ALL.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable
@IvaNTheUnStoppable 3 года назад
well she is a concept level being hahahha
@kaasik1987
@kaasik1987 3 года назад
In the Dark Phoenix saga The Watcher stated Phoenix Force to be primal force second only to that of The Creator
@1973Ganesh
@1973Ganesh 2 года назад
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable how strong would that make phoenix king Thor
@omeometeotl
@omeometeotl 2 года назад
@@1973Ganesh still bellow WPOTC. only Jean Grey or her bloodline can tap into the FULL power of the Phoenix Force. But he’s probably up there with the other abstract beings or just below them.
@xxbbbuckoxx
@xxbbbuckoxx 2 года назад
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable actually In her final form she is above concepts & story
@michaelgarcia5680
@michaelgarcia5680 11 месяцев назад
The Phoenix is so overpowered now especially after Defenders Beyond basically revealed it’s not only above entities like Eternity but the Beyonder as well.
@priyanshipatel1467
@priyanshipatel1467 11 месяцев назад
Ikr!? And there r people who think SW stands a chance
@HouseOfWanda
@HouseOfWanda 2 месяца назад
@@priyanshipatel1467 she does. Wanda beat Jean in every encounter they had and held off the Phoenix Force with no issue. They’re definitely equal in power just because Wanda is also overpowered as hell
@IAmPhoenixXxXx
@IAmPhoenixXxXx 7 месяцев назад
Jean’s connection and bond with the Phoenix is beautifully done. Their relationship is a cosmic dance between the two.
@phoenixfire5998
@phoenixfire5998 3 года назад
One thing I find so funny is Jean with her full extent of power had Oblivion, Eternity, Infinity, Death, and the LIVING TRIBUNAL kneel before her lol. And the watcher said once Jean became the host of the Phoenix she didn’t know she was only below TOAA and above everything else. The watcher quoted - “And I saw her reborn as Phoenix! Through she did not know it then, Jean had become one with a primal force second only to that of the creator. It was more power than she - or any human - could ever hope to control. In time, it twisted and warped her soul - until Phoenix was transfigured into dark Phoenix!”
@getitboy83
@getitboy83 3 года назад
When was this??? I’m currently in a debate with some idiot who swears Eternity is more powerful than WPOTC. As if Eternity could take on such power when he lost to Dormmamu.
@phoenixfire5998
@phoenixfire5998 3 года назад
@@getitboy83 eternity had told jean grey that her powers limitless and saying he wanted the mutant race to be greater than the abstract entities, the next time they met she was actually able to absorb him and his powers. And Jean Grey earth- 9250 already defeated dormammu and goblin queen.
@phoenixfire5998
@phoenixfire5998 3 года назад
@@getitboy83 it was in a comic issue where it was showing where she stands in all of marvel. Showing she was above all abstract and celestial beings but second to TOAA.
@iamphoenixCHANEL
@iamphoenixCHANEL 2 года назад
it is an official statement from the marvel through the comic book. That statement is in the Uncanny X-Men comics
@monarch68
@monarch68 2 года назад
True Form Oblivon destroys her she may beat Illusion Oblivion but she is fodder compared to True Form Oblivion but she's still powerful af
@blinkycosmo2158
@blinkycosmo2158 2 года назад
WAIT WTF????? SHE F****ING HELD THE EARTH - 616 IN THE PALM OF HER HAND???????? You mean she Held the Totality of Marvel??? THE PRIMAL UNIVERSE OF ALL CHARACTERS?????? You mean where all the Alternate version of every characters in marvel universe is in the palm of her hand???? Lord jesus that is TOAA level Feat.
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 2 года назад
She makes the living tribunal look like shit
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 4 года назад
A wonder woman fan tried to convince me once that she can beat the Phoenix force if she takes off her bracelets 😂😂. There is no incarnation of Diana whatsoever that can beat Jean grey phoenix
@IvaNTheUnStoppable
@IvaNTheUnStoppable 4 года назад
That retarded TBH
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 4 года назад
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Yeah it is
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 4 года назад
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Although withcmark Wonder woman would be better, but she'd still get stomped
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 4 года назад
@A supreme 23 Probably
@meangirlyboss5536
@meangirlyboss5536 4 года назад
Ugo Spotty some Wonder Woman fanboys😂😂
@joshd8342
@joshd8342 4 года назад
The Phoenix/WPOTC is Life and Death itself, how can you beat that? No one is above her. Anything that has Life anywhere ion the multiverse is under the mercy of the Phoenix and that includes all cosmic being, I repeat including ALL cosmic beings.
@nomorechance4754
@nomorechance4754 4 года назад
TOAA is above her, hence his name "The One Above All"
@joshd8342
@joshd8342 4 года назад
@@nomorechance4754 You are wrong. Technically WPOTC can draw the life out of TOAA. Also, it was insinuated in the comics that Franklin Richards will be the next TOAA. There is absolutely no way that Franklin Richards will be more powerful that WPOTC.
@nomorechance4754
@nomorechance4754 4 года назад
@@joshd8342 About franklin richards, dude those are just statements, even protege stated he was going to be the next TOAA but got imprisoned by scathan, do you even know who TOAA is?? He's omnipotent, phoenix is not, so TOAA>>>phoenix since he is the "God" of marvel, as in like the literal god. Phoenix won't compare
@joshd8342
@joshd8342 4 года назад
@@nomorechance4754 Of course I know who TOAA is. When it was insinuated by the writers that Franklin Rickards will be the next TOAA, I was shocked as the very existence of TOAA means there can be no one greater than him. I think it was stupid lazy writing from the comics writer at that time. I would say that the WPOTC is on par with TOAA given the description of WPOTC powers and abilities as well as the nature of it's existence.
@nomorechance4754
@nomorechance4754 4 года назад
@@joshd8342 well franklin richards was still nowhere near living tribunal so he was never gonna be the next TOAA But WPOTC isn't on par with TOAA, you can't be on par with omnipotence
@justingaffneysamuels2072
@justingaffneysamuels2072 4 года назад
I loved her original green Phoenix mode. Even nerfed as you said, she curb stomped Firelord, a herald of Galacticus. She slammed Magneto around. He was scared.
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 4 года назад
Do you think Batmans ' Final Batsuit' could beat Phoinex?
@lucifermorningstar8425
@lucifermorningstar8425 Год назад
​@@oisinreilly2639Nah White Phoenix of The Crown scales higher than current batman (The Darkest Knight)
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 3 года назад
To be fair Jean Grey is really powerful even without the Phoinex force
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 2 года назад
EXTREMELY powerful!
@lucifermorningstar8425
@lucifermorningstar8425 Год назад
Fax
@mikaylayore7077
@mikaylayore7077 10 месяцев назад
It’s hard to beat telepathy let alone an omega telepath who’s telepathy has no bounds.
@savagedark916
@savagedark916 4 года назад
She's definitely one of the most powerful beings in Marvel with the Phoenix Force obviously, I'll rank her slightly below the Living Tribunal or possibly even above, but she's above other cosmic abstract entities like Eternity and Mistress Death.
@megawatisoekarnoputri9373
@megawatisoekarnoputri9373 4 года назад
One above all > Phoenix
@ecor150
@ecor150 4 года назад
Especially when Death and Infinity are literally bowing down to her.
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 4 года назад
Do you think batman with his ' final batsuit' could beat her? Some batman fanboy said he would because it's apparently " Above Gods"
@ecor150
@ecor150 4 года назад
@@oisinreilly2639 anyone that worships batman is mentally unstable and should be automatically ignored for life
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 3 года назад
@@ecor150 I agree. Especially when they said he could defeat Spiderman, cap, panther or the Phoinex etc
@HandriaTubal
@HandriaTubal 3 года назад
I felt like the Phoenix Force fell in love with Jean lol it couldn't resist her, kept coming back for her, revives her, chose her 🥴🤣
@Eudjier
@Eudjier 3 года назад
Lol, I dont think she likes the Phoenix Force resurrecting her, if you notice, she told the Phoenix not to resurrect her a few times, if you're eternal, that can get old
@ahayahsgirlteamyashaya7650
@ahayahsgirlteamyashaya7650 2 года назад
I 👍 agree!!!
@308719236
@308719236 2 года назад
It's implied that it created Jean Grey and is practically one with it therefore like Wanda Jean Grey is a Nexus being
@308719236
@308719236 2 года назад
More like it created her to be it's perfect vessel
@blinkycosmo2158
@blinkycosmo2158 2 года назад
Lol Phoenix Force is a Female. What do ypu mean fell in love?
@thomasallen7799
@thomasallen7799 2 года назад
The White Crown is Jean Grey with the _full power_ of the Phoenix Force. She is more powerful than everyone except The One Above All. Her White Hot Room is the _beyond of Beyond,_ the realm of the Beyonder and the Ivory Kings.
@pretty_sure2148
@pretty_sure2148 3 года назад
White phoenix of the crown can deafeat beyonder
@thanoslp96sanmil37
@thanoslp96sanmil37 4 года назад
One of the most powerfull entitie, Great video as always
@Indeedjj
@Indeedjj 3 года назад
entity
@alondrafloress9451
@alondrafloress9451 3 года назад
Bruh and then some people still say Hom wanda can defeat jean grey 😏😂
@PatrickStar-tg4gi
@PatrickStar-tg4gi 3 года назад
Wanda can put up a fight. But she will NEVER be able to beat Phoenix.
@blinkycosmo2158
@blinkycosmo2158 3 года назад
@@PatrickStar-tg4gi she can put up a fighy with a regular Phonix and still lose. Now imagine going up against White phoenix of thr Crown. Bye House of M 🤣
@phoenixfire5998
@phoenixfire5998 3 года назад
@@blinkycosmo2158 that wouldn’t be fair to put wpotc because wpotc is above the LT. The watcher also stated that once hens bonded with the Phoenix she only became second to the one who created all (TOAA)
@mutefalon
@mutefalon 3 года назад
Yeah it’s funny when someone says Wanda can beat her 😂
@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556
@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556 3 года назад
@@phoenixfire5998 wpotc is not above tlt he's quite stronger, and wanda vs wpotc is debatable as doom even said pre retcon beyonders power felt like nothing compared to wandas
@moragev2606
@moragev2606 4 года назад
PHOENIX is OMNIVERSAL. lol
@silentz3428
@silentz3428 4 года назад
Mor Agev are u serious ???
@moragev2606
@moragev2606 4 года назад
@@silentz3428 Yes it exist accross all the universes simultaneously. There is only one Phoenix in the omniverse.
@silentz3428
@silentz3428 4 года назад
Mor Agev everyone low balls her to multiversal
@mrbrandtastic5473
@mrbrandtastic5473 4 года назад
Mor Agev hmmm you could be correct. What about the megaverse? Could other PF’ exist in other marvel multiverses?
@moragev2606
@moragev2606 4 года назад
@@mrbrandtastic5473 No there is only one PF in the Marvel Omniverse. Megaverse is way lower than Omniverse. OMNIVERSE is the sum of all megaverses, or the totality of all universes.
@adampender3685
@adampender3685 3 года назад
They ruined the Phoenix/Jean Grey relationship
@HandriaTubal
@HandriaTubal 3 года назад
They had to 🤣 more drama, more 💰
@tjm11015
@tjm11015 Год назад
Also the White Phoenix of the 👑 is a multi universal being, it is literally the force that creates and destroys on the multiversal level. Thanos with the infinity gauntlet teamed up with Silver Surfer and Galactus backed up by the Living Tribunal would be made bitches if the fckd around and found out.
@mikan9167
@mikan9167 3 года назад
I’m so anoying scarlet witch fans saying they can beat. Me
@Eudjier
@Eudjier 3 года назад
Scarlet witch is not as 😎 cool. Shes weaker dude.
@cleopatraayourbae
@cleopatraayourbae Год назад
Delusional fans as always
@dragosanders4234
@dragosanders4234 Год назад
It's because wanda was able to minorly hurt the Phoenix five but then when Scott nearly became dark phoenix her power had no effect .Hope had to take the phoenix into her and then copy wandas chaos magic where they both said no more phoenix .And banished the Phoenix from earth and used it to break wandas no more mutant spell
@charlie6134
@charlie6134 3 года назад
Fun fact: DC copied the Phoenix force and turned it into a demonic Raven as you can see the Raven is black and the Phoenix is goldenish fiery reddish orange
@charlie6134
@charlie6134 3 года назад
@Dope Love exactly they changed Phoenix power color cz raven has all of Phoenix's powers but just black. And she has umbrakinesis. And they changed the Phoenix by put raven characteristics.
@regularguy89
@regularguy89 4 года назад
What I have been waiting for!! 🎊🎉🎊😱
@Think1stMedia
@Think1stMedia 3 года назад
Wow deep. She may be more powerful than even Classic Beyonder. Great Video.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable
@IvaNTheUnStoppable 3 года назад
She's pretty insane! You definitely can't start her out at full power in movies in my opinion LOL Maybe like a big movie crossover event or something of that sort LOL
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 2 года назад
The white phoenix of the crown would dog walk the beyonder lmao
@DaNIGHTz
@DaNIGHTz Год назад
The greatest story ever told in comics. The phoenix is basically stan lee`s (the one of above all rumored) pet. The jean grey saga is so brilliant. I read the comics when it released it took one of the weakest characters in marvel and suddenly made her super powerful. But at its core its almost a love story of the phoenix and jean. Phoenix is like a baby just wanting to learn about the host. But with jean it became more of alike a child and saw jean more as like a mother. What would a god think of human arguing and fighting over such petty little things? Phoenix only cared about the emotions jean experienced during those fights. It wasnt until the hellfire club tried to manipulate her that god got upset about being used or exploited. The jean saga as i remember was ment to write jean off in a blaze of glory. But because phoenix and jean became so well loved by fans even all these years later they will always live on even if they are thought dead and gone. Phoenix as a second to only the one above all in power. Funny you have this super OP character. But seems to lose almost every fight. This is what separates her from so many godly characters. She has all this power and doesn't use it for her own ends. The only thing the phoenix truly seems to want is for jean grey to except it. Like jean is playing hard to get in a new relationship. But when Jean and phoenix actually talk the phoenix never tries to force jean into excepting it. With that much power phoenix could will jean to do it, but the phoenix never does. But as the phoenix has no idea of what it ment to be human. Jean has no idea of what it ment to be a god and do what the phoenix does for the better of all existence. But the writing is brilliant. The xmen animated series did great touching on it for newer fans. But left so much more to discover. 1 day we will get a phoenix movie that is not a cluster of parts thrown together. It took 3 movies for us to get a fiery bird but it was amazing to see.
@simplybeyond2459
@simplybeyond2459 2 года назад
Does the Phoenix Force have any speed related feats? Wait, the Phoenix Force is OMNI.
@josephblue838
@josephblue838 2 года назад
PERIOD! 😂
@PatrickStar-tg4gi
@PatrickStar-tg4gi 3 года назад
Me not knowing the full power of WPOTC makes me theorise that there is a much HIGHER than White Phoenix. Just a theory. (Imagine a Golden Phoenix.. OOOO BITCH BYEE)
@magnaz26
@magnaz26 3 года назад
Excellent video. Finally caught up on Phoenix Force Jean Grey.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable
@IvaNTheUnStoppable 3 года назад
I'm glad you enjoyed yourself and I'm glad you are enjoying yourself on the channel!!
@magnaz26
@magnaz26 3 года назад
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable I'm surprised you responded lol... Thanks for sending me this link😃. You have a long list of interesting videos; I loose track of what I'm doing every time I go through it due to there being such a wealth of knowledge lol... I'm an online vs-debater. When ever I need to be more informed on a characters capabilities for an upcoming debate I always check your vids first. There are a lot of power scaling RU-vidrs that I have examined and they all have there strong points and there weak points. So far I think you are the best at providing the most exaustive list of comic pages and sources that confirms every claim you make to be true, and just as important, you explain the comics in there proper context. Most power scalers aren't good at proving there argument cause it does take a lot of time and effort to collect all of the canon evidence, which most aren't willing to do. So I respect your hard work cause even I myself is too lazy to read and watch all of this material. So I'm glad you enjoy doing the work for me ...😂
@IvaNTheUnStoppable
@IvaNTheUnStoppable 3 года назад
Those were the days lol(I retired from debating on Instagram hahaha) But glad my vids stand out from the rest
@gafraavrilt2297
@gafraavrilt2297 Год назад
Jean Grey+Wanda Maximoff+Ororo Munroe = Lightning Scarlet Phoenix
@willejones1918
@willejones1918 3 года назад
The Phoenix Force is second to the One Above All in Marvel. It is the only true Omniversal being in Marvel, besides the The One Above All and Oblivion. The Living Tribunal is Multiversal. Cosmic Abstracts can be Mutliversal or Universal. Cosmic Entities are universal, but can go to other universes. The Beyonders are Outerversal (or Beyondverse). Some say Oblivion is the opposite of the Phoenix Force. One responsible for all Psionic Force and Creation. One responsible for all destruction.
@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556
@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556 3 года назад
Oh no shes definitely not 2nd in marvel, not even top 10 in marvel, she's probably top 30
@willejones1918
@willejones1918 3 года назад
@@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556 It has actually been officially stated that the Phoenix Force is second to The One Above All. Look it up online. You will find it. Many fan boys of other characters like Thanos and Thor hate that it is cannon, and the Avengers writers have even stolen the concept from the X-Men. But, it is officially stated. The Phoenix Force is similar to DC's Source, in that the PF is the Force that The One Above All used to create the entire Marvel Omniverse. Like how the Presence uses the Source, as well as others, like Elaine and Perpetua (who was given authority to use it). On Facebook, and in my phone, I have the scans, but it cannot simply post on youtube like that, but a simply search is all that is needed.
@willejones1918
@willejones1918 3 года назад
@@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556 And, Fandom has the Phoenix Force at 1 - A on the tiering system, and Jean as the White Phoenix at 1 - B. The highest it goes is Boundless. Next is 1 - A. Boundless would include TOAA, Monitor-Mind the Overvoid, and Pre Retcon Beyonder. And Pre Retcon Beyonder couldn't even do anything to the Phoenix Force. Matter of fact, PF stole much of the Beyonders energy.
@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556
@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556 3 года назад
@@willejones1918 yeah neither pre retcon beyonder or wpotc are top 10, that statement of her being second to toaa was a long time ago marvel has gotten much stronger and has got much more powerful characters added. Ill just name people above her (not in order btw) : True toaa Writers Toba/toba hulk Aao Zadkiel Angel rider Koh ghost rider Hoi vision Hoi nyx Then and now True TLT Never queen Divine creator Peak man thing Maya Current wanda Current molecule man Gaea Khonshu Current Thor Black winter True eternity True infinity GoS Loki Lords of shamballa Job burke
@willejones1918
@willejones1918 3 года назад
@@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556 The Phoenix Force is the Force of TOAA that was used to create everything in the Omniverse. How is anything but TOAA going to be stronger than it? Lmao. WPTOC recreated teh entire Mutliverse after the Chaos Wave. No, none of the above but TOAA beats the PF. And any aspects of TOAA are still just TOAA, including the PF, which has also been stated as an aspect of the TOAA. lol
@Alex-jd2yx
@Alex-jd2yx 11 месяцев назад
Phoneix does deem to be more poweful then Eternity but its clear they to are almost ome in the same being and must survive together, also Storm is the closest mutant to Eternity ever and im wondering if we see more of Eternity using storm as his host and if Stormernity and Jeanix will have a play fight one day 😂😂
@playerback7722
@playerback7722 4 года назад
They are faster than light. Spidey dodged their attacks and blitz them making him FTL as well if we count that. Not saying he beats them but you know what I mean. Anyhow Jean is extremely powerful. She had enough strength to hurt the Thing who go toe to toe with Hulk.
@mrbrandtastic5473
@mrbrandtastic5473 4 года назад
Playerback 772 emmm!! Are you forgetting that cyclops with PF made god king doom scream?
@Eudjier
@Eudjier 3 года назад
They're all faster than light travel, theyre mutants
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 2 года назад
I don’t think Spidey is faster than light. Y’all are delusional. 😭💀
@GinGouki
@GinGouki 2 года назад
@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 People don't understand what scaling is😂 that doesn't make him faster than light he's able to react that fast not move that fast
@_jayblaze1
@_jayblaze1 Год назад
You should have brought up avengers 1,000,000 story on why the phoenix really loves Jean
@priyanshipatel1467
@priyanshipatel1467 11 месяцев назад
Is it because of Jean being red head or good telepath or telekinetic? I'm sorry I don't know much about that issue
@CarlosRamos-km7ku
@CarlosRamos-km7ku 4 года назад
I love your videos man, you are helping the power scaling community a ton. Could you do a video on darksieds father
@JKINgz786
@JKINgz786 Год назад
So is she way more powerful than Scarlet Witch with the Darkhold something. Right??? Or not I'm still learning and curious.
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 4 года назад
Definetly a Multiversal threat that rival's someone like HOM scarlet witch easily
@mrbrandtastic5473
@mrbrandtastic5473 4 года назад
CHEESE BURGER FREDDY I’d say more powerful than HOMSW.
@mrbrandtastic5473
@mrbrandtastic5473 4 года назад
Hold on! YOU again?! Damn I find you almost every comic book video.
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 4 года назад
@@mrbrandtastic5473 Lols
@mrbrandtastic5473
@mrbrandtastic5473 4 года назад
CHEESE BURGER FREDDY lols indeed.
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350
@cheeseburgerfreddy6350 4 года назад
@@mrbrandtastic5473 Wouldn't say more powerful as SW chaos Magic is a weakness and is like the yang to the PF
@carloa.portugal7859
@carloa.portugal7859 8 месяцев назад
The Phoenix Force is indestructible and invincible.
@christopherjones5827
@christopherjones5827 3 года назад
One my favorites. The Phoenix force is off the charts.
@danieldansoowusu4869
@danieldansoowusu4869 2 года назад
And white phionex is above peak galactus and eternity and celestials, which she should be atleast Oblivion tier and white hot room tier
@davidshirley4696
@davidshirley4696 3 года назад
Rune king Thor and white Phoenix of the crown are two beings that really seem invincible
@efxnews4776
@efxnews4776 3 года назад
You didn't get it... Jean is the PERFECT host. Thor isn't really "worthy" in the eyes of Phoenix, ONLY JEAN GREY.
@1973Ganesh
@1973Ganesh 2 года назад
@@efxnews4776 Phoenix king says hi
@Slyfer80631
@Slyfer80631 2 года назад
@@efxnews4776 Hi
@308719236
@308719236 Год назад
​​@@1973Ganesh unless Thor is a White Phoenix of the Crown he isn't 100% compatible or capable of of the full power of the Phoenix. Only Jean grey is as she is its true host/perfect host.
@viniciusribeiro6451
@viniciusribeiro6451 2 года назад
I like green Jean. More controled, level headed and independent. The wreak havoc red is way too dramatic.
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 4 года назад
Some little Batman fanboy child said that she would lose to ' the final batsuit' and that it's" above gods ". Do you believe that? Also if batman fought phoinex with that suit do you think he'd beat her?
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 4 года назад
@A supreme 23 The one where it's sixth dimensional, that's it one of or the most powerful in the six dimensions or something idk, said something about the metal of connected to superman or something idk, and that it defeated Lucifer and Darkseid. They also said it could control reality. Tbh the guy was talking like a child and was 100% biased. His username is called ' X-Ray Gaming' I think and his pfp is a red X with black as the background color. I think he's just being an idiot. He kinda repeated something I said which he said " Phoinex may be death or something" and even said " Ironman did pretty good damage to the Phoinex with the Phoinex buster and the final batsuit would make him look like a homeless fool". I can't believe the shit he's been saying 😂🤣
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 4 года назад
@A supreme 23 idk whether when the person said ' him' they meant Ironman or the Phoinex
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 4 года назад
@A supreme 23 They also said that ' Phoinex wouldn't be able to reach it or do anything to it'.
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 4 года назад
@A supreme 23 I can give you the info on where to find the person
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 4 года назад
@A supreme 23 Oh Ok but if you wanna check out what that said it's on a Spiderman vs batman gta video but you said you don't want or need their info so ok
@malkum77ify
@malkum77ify 4 года назад
Infinity ÷ 5 is still Infinity
@sammieyoung2529
@sammieyoung2529 4 года назад
Wow, you can slow down a little, bruh! Lol. You've spoken more informed than any on RU-vid thus far.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable
@IvaNTheUnStoppable 4 года назад
I need to stop posting vids?? 😢
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 4 года назад
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable No don't
@IvaNTheUnStoppable
@IvaNTheUnStoppable 4 года назад
Yayyy 😁 I was scared for a second because I love doing this stuff!
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 4 года назад
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Yeah you shouldn't your good at it. Especially this video, the Phoenix force is downplayed and overlooked and it hurts, it's easily above multiversal. Great video 👌
@chomniversefanpresident3360
@chomniversefanpresident3360 2 года назад
Isn’t Phoenix High Outerversal? Isn’t Terrax and Silver Surfer multi-galaxy bare minimum?
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 4 года назад
Some little biased Batman child said Batmans new suit ' The Final Batsuit' is above gods and above the Phoinex just because it ( may) have defeaten Superman, Darkseid and Lucifer /Presence and he said it's sixth dimensional and that phoinex wouldn't be able to reach it and that phoinex wouldn't be able to do anything to it and he said something about the metal of it. Is it true it's above gods and the Phoinex? Tbh to me it sounds so stupid.
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 3 года назад
@Jesus Judai Cavazos Dude, just no. No version of batman CAN NOT beat the Phoinex.
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 3 года назад
@Staffordshire Comics No just no. No batman whatsoever touches the Phoenix, I don't care if he has 2.5million years of prep time
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 3 года назад
@@ugospotty678 I know right? He's been turned into a plot character it's so laughable 😂😂
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 3 года назад
@Ianira Rumplestiltskin Yeah I don't see what Lucifer Morningstar can do the the white crown of the Phoenix
@necrozmautra3685
@necrozmautra3685 3 года назад
Travis Scott batman can beat the wpotc lol
@19751phoenix
@19751phoenix 19 дней назад
Easy way to describe The White Hot room. It's the wall of white light our souls pass through when entering Heaven.
@comicsexpertise1178
@comicsexpertise1178 4 года назад
Can you cite the issue that gives the info that the phoenix force allowed galactus to survive the death of his universe? I told this to someone but cant remember where i remember this from when they asked me
@IvaNTheUnStoppable
@IvaNTheUnStoppable 4 года назад
readcomiconline.to/Comic/X-Men-Phoenix-Force-Handbook/Full?id=88649 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆 HERE !!
@fishnewt1331
@fishnewt1331 4 года назад
Originally it was in the last issue Adventures of the X-Men.
@danieldansoowusu4869
@danieldansoowusu4869 2 года назад
And green phionex is above peak heralds which they scale to universal plus to multiversal plus for med ball
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 4 года назад
Didn't she defeat Dormammu?
@Emerly808
@Emerly808 3 года назад
She did?when?
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 3 года назад
@@Emerly808 I can't remember where I heard that exactly, sorry.
@Emerly808
@Emerly808 3 года назад
@@oisinreilly2639 It's alright" I already found out that she defeated dormammu in the comics😄
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 3 года назад
@@Emerly808 Are you able to send me a scan or link?
@oluwadamilola6233
@oluwadamilola6233 3 года назад
Actually dormammu once defeated a phoenix users who was more powerful than jean was with it.
@jibriljinno
@jibriljinno 5 месяцев назад
the Phoenix Force is omniversal..its the sum of ALL life force past present and future
@dragonballtalk8527
@dragonballtalk8527 3 года назад
What about the phoenix male character from guardians of the galaxy in the 90s. Touch the ball and I pop up no homo
@edwardscurry3285
@edwardscurry3285 3 года назад
I think Jean Grey the Phoenix are wanted to say because in the beginning the Phoenix is one of the most powerful beings in the universe and she in Jane the kissing each other's equals in that stature cuz they both are Papa bees in their own right at the Philly sports shows has a worthy candidate to become one with and I believe Jean Grey can use this power for good as much as the it was accidentally used for evil but she stands on a high-ranking of a list of those Marvel beings were powerful in the universe
@dionneking8
@dionneking8 Год назад
Phoenix has no equal
@viniciusribeiro6451
@viniciusribeiro6451 2 года назад
Jean is a freakin' God.
@19751phoenix
@19751phoenix 19 дней назад
Favorite is White Phoenix when she is Balanced
@GothicXlightning
@GothicXlightning 3 года назад
.. love you Jean with same passion that both Cyclops and Wolvie will always love you
@tjm11015
@tjm11015 Год назад
The white hot room sounds like a shady massage parlour in Thailand 😘🤣
@rezdenied2890
@rezdenied2890 3 года назад
Beat Jean grey debatable Phoenix force never.
@insulareshdxo9454
@insulareshdxo9454 3 года назад
She is an omega level mutant
@dragosanders4234
@dragosanders4234 Год назад
Her bio says she's a alpha
@jalingaming9996
@jalingaming9996 2 года назад
Can we get an updated video of how strong the Phoenix force is did a great job would love to see how strong she has gotten then especially with rkt ?
@sartemarkify
@sartemarkify 2 года назад
Who needs that stupid gauntlet if you are the POWER itself?i want to see jean toasting thanos
@danieldansoowusu4869
@danieldansoowusu4869 2 года назад
I thing dark phionex can go toe to toe with ful full powered galactus which scales to eternity
@loverofripandtear6578
@loverofripandtear6578 3 года назад
I see oblivion neel
@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556
@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556 3 года назад
It was only an m body but yeah she beats him still
@SuperTople
@SuperTople 2 года назад
What video game is in the first few second of this video? Looks really cool
@blackpanther6885
@blackpanther6885 2 года назад
i have a doubt did jean(after becoming white phoenix of the crown) and scott had a happy ending or not can someone tell me
@dragosanders4234
@dragosanders4234 Год назад
Yes but it was only after phoenix ressurection where jean gave up the Phoenix that her and Scott tries to have a relationship again
@booms1000
@booms1000 2 года назад
Always been my secret favorite
@Power3DHD
@Power3DHD 4 года назад
Do one for Kitty Pryde (shadowcat)
@chicago_beats
@chicago_beats 9 месяцев назад
Cool
@adamverdejo8696
@adamverdejo8696 3 года назад
DO MANGOG.....ASGARDIAN BUSTER
@Universeknight10055
@Universeknight10055 6 месяцев назад
This great videos and keep make great videos. This video get two tumb up 😊😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊😊👍👍. Jean grey and lot characters are my favorite characters. Jean grey is great character.
@mosharafhossen766
@mosharafhossen766 3 года назад
Can Galactus beat Darkseid?
@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556
@april-ludgate-karate-dwyer9556 3 года назад
Yes, easily
@gramkumar7462
@gramkumar7462 3 года назад
Phoenix ranking is 12. Eternity is 5 or 6 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@joshuaswartz2844
@joshuaswartz2844 3 года назад
Are you ok
@slibertas1996
@slibertas1996 3 года назад
Phoenix is 3 or 4 not 12. Only Jesus, Living Tribunal and maybe Molecule Man are more powerful than the Phoenix.
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 2 года назад
Lol
@eivor5453
@eivor5453 3 года назад
Hey look Thor's mother
@omarscarborough4274
@omarscarborough4274 3 года назад
I hope that turns out not to be true . The only way I'll except this is if Thor turns out to have three parents like one of his sisters.
@SleeperFantasy
@SleeperFantasy 3 года назад
Im pretty sure it was one of her hosts like she is literally energy dont know how odin could bang that
@Slyfer80631
@Slyfer80631 2 года назад
Nah
@shaunessyalmeida2830
@shaunessyalmeida2830 3 года назад
Tbh I don't really see Phoenix of the Crown being Omniversal. It's never stated in the comics. She's only considered Omniversal in theory-wise. If Spectre were to fight with Phoenix of the Crown at his most powerful, the Phoenix would eventually die out and lose! Make this White Raven or Protege and it will be a Curbstomp against the Phoenix! Raven cuz everyone states her as being a threat to reality (Everything, including the Omniverse). Don't even get me started on what that Divine Entity can do!
@IvaNTheUnStoppable
@IvaNTheUnStoppable 3 года назад
I think u meant to reply to that giant debate under here! Cause here it just looks like u posting a comment praying that someone accidentally sees it
@aldogrof6700
@aldogrof6700 3 года назад
The phoenix is literally the source of all (life, creation, destruction and rebirth).It can never truly die just re-manifest which is the same for the Spectre because even though he is also powerful; he is also still finite.
@aldogrof6700
@aldogrof6700 3 года назад
@Giovanni Balbosa-Mc Intosh No he just doesn't like fanboi who prefers who they like rather than actual factssss.Honestly it just annoys me when people try to put there favs over objectively powerful beings a thing I like to call the 'The Batman Effect'.
@vebzuia4336
@vebzuia4336 3 года назад
Phoenix is beyond the concepts of dimensions, time and space. It's already been stated to be outerversal easily. You can't destroy something that IS rebirth and destruction itself. People don't understand that the phoenix firebird form is merely a infintismal fragment of the abstract concept of the Phoenix force. The fact that the infistismal fragment(dark phoenix) was stated to be a threat equal to the M'krann crystal(a object being a nexus of all realities) and waged war against professor X across all of the infinite planes of existence. That just shows how powerful the actual concept of the Phoenix force actually is.
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 2 года назад
What did I just read 🤦
@jays.dresden554
@jays.dresden554 4 года назад
Who was the man white Phoenix was talking to in the white hot room.
@oisinreilly2639
@oisinreilly2639 4 года назад
Do you know what ' The Final Batsuit' is?
@aldogrof6700
@aldogrof6700 4 года назад
Death..I thinks it manifest as a he hobo right..
@thegamingking3509
@thegamingking3509 3 года назад
Bob the builder
@slibertas1996
@slibertas1996 3 года назад
Cyclops
@dragosanders4234
@dragosanders4234 Год назад
Scott/cyclops
@interzine1505
@interzine1505 10 месяцев назад
PATO ¿YA QUEDO EL NUEVO ACAPULCO PINTADO DE ORO?
@FraginDrag
@FraginDrag Год назад
Who knows. These entities are nerfed whenever it serves the plot.
@michaelgarcia5680
@michaelgarcia5680 11 месяцев назад
Considering Phoenix was already considered a cosmic entity in just its normal form alone it’s fair to assume it is above them in forms like wpotc
@Lysergi25
@Lysergi25 6 месяцев назад
Cosmetology. Hahaha jesus. Thumbs down.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable
@IvaNTheUnStoppable 6 месяцев назад
Huh
@blackpanther6885
@blackpanther6885 2 года назад
white phoenix of the crown vs oblivion who will win
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 2 года назад
Wpotc
@Slyfer80631
@Slyfer80631 2 года назад
@@ugospotty678 is it true that White phoenix can take power form other Phoenix force hosts?
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 2 года назад
@@Slyfer80631 Yes
@Slyfer80631
@Slyfer80631 2 года назад
@@ugospotty678 Damn it.
@Slyfer80631
@Slyfer80631 2 года назад
@@ugospotty678 Where would you place me in your strongest versions of Thor list?
@magnaz26
@magnaz26 3 года назад
I think Yhwach could beat White Phoenix of the Crown Jean Grey. Like if you agree.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable
@IvaNTheUnStoppable 3 года назад
Oh heckkkkkkk naaaaaaaa oh ahhhhhhhh
@magnaz26
@magnaz26 3 года назад
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Lol😂 brah... But I'm dead serious, Yhwach is "That" powerful. But I would have to spoil for you what happened in the "Thousand Year Blood War" Arc of Bleach in order for you to understand why he's so powerful. I have a collection of "Concrete" evidence supporting this, but I wanted to confirm that my case was "Rock Solid" which is why I mentioned this here cause I may be overlooking some important feats of the White Phoenix that you would surely make me aware of, but from all the feats you listed in this video Yhwach would destroy her with low difficulty which I know sounds far fetched but I can prove with the canon sources.
@magnaz26
@magnaz26 3 года назад
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable By the way man, let me know if you want to see those scans I claim to have. I've been waiting for you to do a powerscaling of Bleachverse so I can give these scans to you.
@IvaNTheUnStoppable
@IvaNTheUnStoppable 3 года назад
I need them to animate that junk so I can get interested in bleach again hahaha
@magnaz26
@magnaz26 3 года назад
@@IvaNTheUnStoppable Lol 😂 Ok, Bet...
@suppaseakcharoensin135
@suppaseakcharoensin135 2 года назад
1.TOAA 2.Ar-thanos 3.AAO 4.True from oblivion 5. Nyx hoi 6. First firmament 7. Molecule man 8. Eternity 8th-never queen 9. Wpotc 8multi 10. hotu 11. galactus LB 12. chaos king 13. god emperor doom,pr- beyonder 14. logos 15. pr-living tribunal , protege 16. eternity seventh cosmos, true from lady death 17. infinity 18. dormammu, umar
@edgargalicia5071
@edgargalicia5071 2 года назад
wrong
@suppaseakcharoensin135
@suppaseakcharoensin135 2 года назад
@@edgargalicia5071 เหตุผลครับ ตรงไหนผิด
@suppaseakcharoensin135
@suppaseakcharoensin135 2 года назад
@@edgargalicia5071 why
@ugospotty678
@ugospotty678 2 года назад
Molecule man, eternity and oblivion don't scale above the phoenix
@mistressmaria9320
@mistressmaria9320 Год назад
Can you do a power level comparrison to Jean and Wanda?
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