You're so high up you wouldn't even hear it dummy. But if you mean a phone app that does that well... oh snap. (I just jump off the building with a parachute. Its way quicker.)
@@urmomsbf4934 Lets build the tallest building to the heavens. Isn't that like space exploration? In architecture, called the biggest dick analogy. This wouldn't happen to be D'Arcy...a lady engineer?
Imagine waiting two hours for a pizza... then the pizza guy calls and says he’s stuck in an elevator jam at the 700th floor and forgot to bring his oxygen mask
Yeah i'd like to see that too. something that has always peaked my imagination was the domed cities of "Blade runner" where it has it's own ecology an "Logan's Run". Both of these I feel are the perfect examples of Future habitats...something that is tangible. the price tag is quite big but when you compare the budgets that some countries have spent on just their Defence?...well....I think we could already have these built by now.
@@PleistocenePat why are you bringing generations to conversation? Do you really feel the world is not divided enough as it is...furthermore literally nothing the dude said makes him sound like a boomer. I honestly doubt that you even know who the term refers to...
Actually not so much "end times". "Iron Stars" does talk about the theory of the "heat death" of the universe, but his projections are in trillions of years, and how the "post-stellar" universe might last much longer than the stellar one as we know it now. Actually I find him unrelentingly optimistic at times, but that probably naturally comes from being a "futurist".
I wonder how long it would take for someone to live an entire life in one of those enclosed cities. Not somebody with agoraphobia or anything like that, but to live a normal life with friends, school, work, etc. There are already plenty of people who have grown up all over having never left their home town so I'm sure it would be possible.
There have to be systems for putting out fire so they don't spread. Also engineering so that if a fire does happen it doesn't cause a building collapse
You two know how to get a response from me. ;) Haircut may help with the "looking skinnier" thing - I've been working out with a trainer lately too. Trying to get my summer dad bod.
@@Napoleonic_S Yeah all you’ll need to do is just bait some government officials into believing that they’d totally make some dank profits if they did! Capitalists can get conned into building just about anything if you convince them that profits’d be imminent! lol I like your idea, so let’s start a joke campaign to create fake demand for a trip up to the top of an 8km tower sitting on the peak of Mount Everest! 😂
@@realzachfluke1 > Capitalists can get conned into building just about anything if you convince them that profits will be imminent That's what capitalism is all about and it's based
I can see some dystopian future, where we live in such mega stuctures. First day, everything is shiny, 20 years later, the lower levels are grown to a slum and the top levels are partying nonstop :| A hole society stacked on 4km2
Why would there be parties nonstop in oxygen-aided quarters that only the wealthiest could afford? I'd guess they'd be empty most of the time (owned but too impractical to be used often), or be high-end office spaces.
"A hole" society 👈 I see what you did there 😂 but even if they're jerks, I think they'll keep the low levels nice so ppl don't rip off structural steel down there
It's like a vertical Snowpiercer. Interesting question though, would it be the upper or lower levels that would go to pot? Because the richie riches on the top floor would have to go through the ghetto to get there. Maybe they would just start helicoptering in to their residences?
Arthur C. Clarke wrote about a tower that would be anchored at geosyncrhonous orbit level. It is in the book "The Fountains of Paradise," 1978. He hypothesized a hyperfilament that would be the support. I've heard of some carbon fiber chains that are incredibly strong.
Well... it looks like mosses didnt even exist and jesus is also doubtful (actual researched data) so i guess these mega building wont be built.. haha I like the Pyramid building as you have all the mini buildings inside all linked. Plus for the flat earthers out there, you can install a dome over the top and have your own weather...
@@xx3868 This is actually debunked. From historic perspective it is 100% clear, that they lived. We have more prof of Jesus existence than the existence of Julius Ceasar.
Even though Egypt is part of the continent most people consider it part of the Middle East. The citizens, the culture, the language, the ancestry all stem from the Middle East. Same goes for Morocco.
Marlynne Struwig No, I like the truth to be known many things taught in Egypt were seen in other parts of Africa. Africa also had many great civilizations that were destroyed coincidentally it coincides with the slave trade. So believe what you want but I know the truth.
Gareth Oneill wrote "And in all that time they never invented the wheel or learned how to use draft animals" Your claims are false. You, Sir, are an idiot.
Actually modern skyscraper are safer when earthquakes occurs than regular buildings. There was a good reportage about the Taipei 101 - one of the tallest buildings - build in a region where earthquake of magnitude of 7 is likely to happen. In that reportage the explained why such a slim and high building can cope with earthquakes way better than older and smaller buildings. (its because they are super flexible, have gigantic dampers and counterweights so they can absorb way more of the earthquake energy than normal buildings)
Extending that idea, you'd think it a bad idea to build *cities* on tectonic plate boundaries, old swamps, river flood plains, coastal areas prone to inundation and tsunami... Oh wait, that's like nearly every major city in the world.
I was quite surprised (and also just the slightest bit offended 😂) that you didn't mention the Tokyo Tower of Babel, quite possibly my favorite proposed Megaproject/Megastructure. The story of the Tower of Babel is one of my favorites from the Bible, but also just the sheer outlandishness of the proposal for the Tokyo take on it is so fascinating to me. I'd also never heard of the Ultima Tower before your video, so thank you for including it!
I've been staying in a town in Utah, in the US, which is at 3000 metres elevation. Water boils at 90°, which is honestly more of a pain in the arse than a trip. But yeah, I suppose I don't have to worry about tsunamis.
@@SteveJB When he stops making enough bank from RU-vid videos that he can't afford a fuckin' Tesla. Like. Come on, man. It's capitalism, if you can make money doing it, you have a job.
"Would you wanna live in one of these--"OHMYGOD YESS!!! It's like a university, on steroids that can support itself and the community. Also, if you build and arcology on the water, you have the framework for a self-sustaining environment that can be converted into either a floating nation, or a vessel that can endure space travel, given the proper modifications. Imagine living in the airport with your own barracks, an option to upgrade to luxury suites, and the opportunity to farm crops/animals, and fish for food.
For every 10 subscribers I donate to charity! It really started declining around 2012. But he 2016 is when social media rose to prominence more than ever and it we went down the drain lol
Getting harder and harder to find pristine lakes, though. And I don't need no frickin cabin. Just give me a good place to hang my hammock by that pristine lake.
I have been to the glass floor on the observation level of the CN Tower, and it was unsettling to say the least. That artists conception of Jeddah Tower (6:30) and they're just chilling out on that platform garden thing.....never would I step out on that. I was cringing as I watched and they keep going higher and higher. Great Video Joe!
I'll never be able to visit any tall building tbh, I am too scared of elevators because I always have to think how much of a free fall space is under neath me... (tldr: I don't step into elevators)
@@ritwikreddy5670 What he says is true though. Have you ever went up in an elevator and thought about the space under you or above you for that matter? I mean there are safety measures in place and some good ones but WHAT IF they all failed and the elevator ran away to the bottom? Think about it. Christian is just being realistic.
@@scottcupp8129 The non-industrial permanent elevator fixtures have been in use since 1872. There is no reliable source for accidents before 1902. There have only been 13 such accidents since 1902. 10 of them pre 1920 when there weren't any regulations for elevator safety. One of the recent one was in a Brazilian government built apartment where sub standard elevators were installed due to corruption. Elevators carry 2.5 billion people( the total no. of times) everyday and 912 billion people every year. Assuming the use of elevators have been increasing linearly since 1920, 55 TRILLION people used elevator and there have been 3 fatal accidents and one of them was due to corruption. That is fatality rate of 0.00000000006% . There is a greater chance that you choke on your food while eating and die. And a much greater chance that you end up in a car accident.
Too bad that isn't the future. The future is more elysium, with Jewish bankers and media moguls rulers over their mixed race slaves with an iron dystopian fist. Have fun; more education on the matter: Europa the last battle & The greatest story never told
Wowww fantastic presentation !!! Exactly what I needed ... to design my own tower :D and yes I would love to love up there as a bird ... thank u so much !!!
@Ryan Plethra Look buddy!.. Iron is an element, steel (in its simplest form, Iron mixed with Carbon) is not. The definition of an alloy is a mix of one or more metals, with the addition (though not a requirement) of even more elements of non-metallic nature. Do you want to keep up this discussion, or go read a bit about material science, then come back and agree with me?
Yup, as soon as he said steel after Eiffel Tower I was... WTF. It is made of wrought iron. For naysayers out there, wrought iron is not remotely similar to steel when it comes to material properties. The distinction is important.
@@conexant51 The Eiffel Tower is made out of "Wrought Iron" which is a type of "Steel". Right now you are having a knee jerk reaction reading this. And you want to claim that it is not. But it is. Wrought iron has about .08 percent carbon. It has slag inclusions of metal oxides and silicon dioxide. The terminology is confusing when it comes to "Iron" because most people have the misunderstanding that when you add enough carbon there is a point when Iron becomes Steel. But even trace amounts of carbon added to molten iron will produce "steel". After you go above 2 percent carbon it is called "Cast Iron". Which further adds to peoples confusion. So if there is a history of the Eiffel tower that the builder chose "Iron instead of Steel"...that is incorrect terminology on the part of the historian. He should have said the builder chose "wrought iron as the type of steel used". If the Eiffel Tower was made of "cast iron" then the historian could say "Iron instead of Steel". But that would be ridiculous to build out of cast iron.
@@andrewpaulhart this feels just like that Doctor who proposed cutting some guys head off and transplanting it on another body. the guy who wanted his body replaced pulled out cause he might have had to live worse then he did with the deformed body he already had.
Prolly cuz 35,786km is geostationary orbit... ... And Joe wasn't trying to show off. " look at me I know all the orbital facts and figures! I understand numbers and remember stuff! I know how to fix canker sores I'm a freaking genius! No, it's okay. Everyone doesn't have to suck my dick. ... Well, I suppose everyone can suck my dick. Since I'm so good at knowing things and being so smart I will allow you all to fellate me! And I'm better than you!" No one wants to be that guy...
A common theme in Blade Runner's brand of sci-fi is "humans playing god face consequences." The Tyrell Corporation's HQ looks like a pyramid or ziggurat, built by some ancient civilization. The Tower of Babel however fictitious, is probably based on a real structure built in the ancient world, the tallest of which were ziggurats and The Pyramids.
I wouldn't mind living in something like the Shimizu Mega City Pyramid or Ultima Tower. Of course, a lot of the basic concepts for something like that, if designed to be nearly totally self sufficient (so that it only needs mined resources brought in from outside) would do wonders for helping us work out the kinks in doing something like building self-sufficient space stations and even figuring out how to build functional colonies on other planets.
Someone once said that we could take the iron of Eiffel tower, and build three and half similar towers that are even better by using modern construction techniques. And thats just by using the original alloys, using modern steel we could make even more towers with the same amount of metal.
@@Aussiemarco They can't build on bedrock, so they use friction with the sand to make up for that. They hammered 192 piles which are steal tubes 50 meters long and 1.5 meters across down into the sand and then poured a 3.7 meter thick concrete foundation using 110,000 tons of concrete on top of those! Funny thing though about all the sand in the middle east, they can't use it for building! It's been blowing around so much it's rounded off the corners and so it doesn't lock together very well! They actually have to IMPORT SAND into the desert! LOL
Thinking about the Ultima tower and X-Seed tower projects both excites and terrifies me at the same time. Warhammer 40k and Necromunda fans will know what I'm talking about. Hive city living in all it's glory!
@@drippingwax sometimes Karen deserves it.. made my day knowing there is only 1 elevator to the top floors.. serves that b*tch right for pushing my niece out of her way to get a slice of pizza..
@@craigcorson3036 Aren't postmen generally really well paid and unionized? Not to mention that most of these structure are self-sustainable archologies that effectively function as city states, not every place is California.
Joe, mate, this is one of your best videos. Massive respect. I as constantly laughing and gasping at the buildings. This is the stuff of scifi. I really hope these buildings are built.
Here's the thing... One (or more) of these buildings is going to come down before the end of its expected end of life date. It's just how things happen. Eventually, circumstances will align to bring about its destruction. And it will likely turn out to be because of someone skimping on materials or otherwise cutting corners. I'm wondering if you would even be able to sift through that much debris to find the cause. I actually have much more faith in the pyramidal type structures or the ones with wide bases. Sure, some sort of catastrophe could still occur, but part of the structure would be saved, as in the base. At some point they are going to decide that a building needs to come down, but can you even do a controlled demolition on a structure that huge? I mean, the surrounding infrastructure would certainly be unable to escape destruction from so much material coming down. So, I don't know. I think these problems are "something for future generations to deal with". I guess we'll just have to wait and see! ;)
Right, guys. I understand that sometimes space is at a premium. Heck, that's why we started building "skyscrapers" in the first place. And for the most part, it's a perfectly fine strategy. But, these buildings which are essentially mile high needles make me uneasy. When I was a young lad, I remember seeing a building in Seattle, Washington that looked like a normal boxy building except that it's base tapered to a size significantly smaller than the main structure above. I'm sure the reason was it took up less space on the ground, but, really, is that such a good idea? I keep thinking about Jurassic Park and how the scientists were so preoccupied with figuring out if they _could_ recreate dinosaurs, that they didn't stop and consider if they _should_ . I imagine building something that could conceivably last practically "forever" would be preferable to making something unimaginably large that even if it never accidentally falls will need to be replaced at some point. On the other hand, the pyramidal proposal could conceivably stand for as long as, yes, the ancient Egyptian pyramids. Imagine _generations_ of people living in the same "house", possibly rarely even leaving the main structure since everything one would need is all there, such as jobs, food distribution establishments, and entertainment centers of unimaginable scope. Just imagine "mountain" climbing on specially designed surfaces within "wild" safari areas or you could just camp out, even make a campfire (bring in your own city provided special burning material or else the park rangers will suspend your park privileges! Better to just use a small plasma generator. :P ), and sleep under the stars (in sections exposed to the elements, with artificial lighting within enclosed portions) when you just want to get away from it all. So, we need to think more forward instead of just the next 1 to 2 hundred years. Until one of these things comes down, planned or not, it's just going to be a "my...a-hem...'structure' is bigger than yours". ;)
@@CybershamanX When on a sidewalk, or at ground level, with the rectangular way buildings are built, if they built right to property line, you block out the sky... "tall and narrow" is the international mantra of city scape planners today in order to increase density, yet still preserve street and sidewalk views.
@@joescott Well, in a fairness, the pyramids are pretty much solid rock. They were not made hollow so that people could live in them. In essence, the pyramids are closer to man-made mountains as opposed to buildings.
Andrew Walker - consider PASSIVE support. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThothX_Tower *_The tower would be built out of stacked kevlar cells inflated to extreme pressures with hydrogen or helium gas_* There's enough systems hanging on it that it doesn't float away, including a launch platform 20 kilometers (12 miles) up. It replaces the first stage of a rocket/spaceplane. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FVsUyPEN1eY.html
Larry Niven wrote a science-fiction novel about 30 years ago called Ring World. In the book a distant solar system is found that has a ring around it's star. A million mile wide ring that stretches completely around the star at about the Earth's orbit from our Sun. It could be home to trillions of inhabitants. There is an ingenious way night and day would be created on the Ring World. It's a very imaginative concept. And a great read too. Larry Niven is a science fiction writer than didn't get his due credit.
Thanks Joe. I'll bet Isaac Arthur will be sad you didn't mention active support buildings which will dwarf all or most of those buildings you did mention. I however found this video very interesting. Lots of buildings I'd never heard of. Thanks
Hell no I don't wanna live there. Even small groups of people make me feel claustrophobic and uncomfortable. I can't imagine being trapped in a building filled with millions of people
I'd love to live in a massive arcology. I wouldn't need a car, as I can walk everywhere and take convenient mass transit for the further away points. Also we could transform a lot of the unused land in low density areas back into natural space.
Stumbled onto your channel through RU-vid voodoo....and ended up binge watching your vids for 10 hours yesterday...and i`m back this morning, still enjoying your content. New sub, keep up the great work.
In 2011 the Netherlands suddenly got real insecure about the fact that we didn’t have any mountains and we wanted to build a 2 kilometer high mountain out of concrete just so we could cycle on it
OriginalTharios Why? Look at our world and think how ridiculous it is from the perspective of just a hundred years ago. And AI is something already in quite successful development. You can argue the possibility of creating consciousness, but that’s just playing with the defection if AI. An inconceivably complex computer system controlling a society is totally possible. It might not happen though if something fucks up all the electronics or a crisis happens, or people rebel against such an idea. But the technology for it is here
@@Johnny-rx4hs - You are correct... for some reason, we are unable to drill deeper. I personally dont think its a good idea to try and drill deeper, incase we hit a Trillion billion cubic feet gas pocket that blows out and destroys the earth....hmmm
I've eaten a steak 3 course meal at The Meat Co. In the Al Bahar Sook, drinking absinthe, watching the fountain show, synced to the lights on the Burj Khalifa. I've been to Dubai and Jabel Ali twice while in the Navy. I would go again in a heartbeat. Dubai is a beautiful place, and an experience of a lifetime.
The other crazy woman at the top of the tower wasn't doing the place any favors either. I've seen her at the top of more than one tower. Neither went well.
I remember there was a theory about when a city builds its tallest building, it’s in danger of an economic crash. Happened multiple times in history. Maybe coincidence.
that makes sense, new cites that want to show off how good it is going are likely riding on a bubble, meaning if they don't diversify before the bubble burst the economic crash.
The Renaissance Center in Detroit came following a long downhill slide for decades. But after it was built it's economy stayed crashed for several decades.
Just a coincidence. Everywhere is always "in danger" of an economic crash. For that to have any predictive power, you need to define what a crash is and how long after the building is built. End result: you won't be able to. Most of the countries where supertall buildings have been built recently are still going on business as usual several years on.
Excellent question. Especially for the termite concept. Doesn't quite have the phallic quality that seems so important, but id imagine you could go quite deep n use that for more than just foundations. Count me out tho... i travel bout 55km a day, each way, to have cows in my backyard. Not my cows, i don't own em. Talk to em tho. Dont say much, but exellent listeners. The Buddhists are onto something...
We have NOT dug to the mantel. We dug so deep everything melts, but we never penetrated outside of the crustal layer of the Earth. The mantel is an entirely different layer of the Earth, theoretically formed of at least semi molten rock. Though quite a bit of recent theories and evidence suggest the outer layer of the outer mantel might actually be semi-rigid and filled with bodies of super heated water, or consist mostly of water-logged spongy rock. We actually don't know for sure what the mantle is made of, as we've never seen or sampled it.
The problem with that is everyone else doing the same. Land is running out. I'd like to have a big ugly boat in international waters. An electric hybrid with solar and turbine generator(s) that can run on a variety of fuels. If it has enough space to grow algae (reserve fuel) then it will need minimal battery capacity and ideally never have to dock and resupply.
@Charles Yuditsky Salt water electrolysis can make sodium hypochlorite (bleach), hydrochloric acid, and/or sodium hydroxide. With NaOH and oil from algae it'll be possible to do saponification, at the expense of slightly less oil for fuel, but then there's no need to stock up on soap. Sails take too much time to maintain and are difficult to operate (for one person) compared to engines and propellers. They would also compete with solar panels for space. It's just another method of propulsion, so I don't think it's worth their hassle. Growing the algae with LEDs in the ship wastes some solar power and space, but frees up the ship's exterior and keeps the algae protected. It's very vulnerable to pests so isolating it will help reduce one of the most common problems it has. Also, transparent plastics wouldn't be exposed to UV and deteriorate as fast this way. I just consider it excess energy storage, as an alternative to an over abundance of batteries. So, if less than half the ship's volume is used by the algae system and if it can make enough oil or starch/alcohol to power propulsion at least 1/10 of the time, I'd call it practical. I think I could keep the ship anchored or drifting 90% of the time anyway. I'm a bit of an extreme hobbyist so I plan to have DIY methods of making everything beforehand and I'll be bringing that equipment with. I'm aiming for maximum redundancy. I think a big ship with several propellers and even a couple outboard motors or tugs might be a bit funny looking, but avoiding multiple shafts through the hull has practical advantages. Dampening buoys (in a loose sense) could double as tugs if they were powered. For many years I considered russian ice breakers to be an ideal kind of ship, but attempting to get one or make my own equivalent ... would draw too much bad attention, so I decided to give up on it and use basically green alternatives. In the near future, I'm going to get a boxy commercial van and convert it into a hybrid vehicle. A smaller step, basically. It'd be handy to have something larger than a car or truck that beats their gas mileage. Some of the Micro RV stuff parallels the problems that need to be solved for living on the ocean, but without requiring special parking.
I'd say the Ostankino Tower was more of an achievement compared to the other transmitter towers because of how cool/futuristic/beautiful it is in comparison :D
@@Skylancer727 "So, when do we make a Matrioshka world?" ... sad to say my estimate is never. Several reasons, but the most obvious is heat. Doing active support, such as multiple orbital rings to support a layer will have losses due to the fact that perfect vacuums are not happening. These losses will be small locally, but over an entire layer it will really add up. IMO it will be more than enough to make a Matrioshka world look very wasteful. Much better to just keep extending the swarm.
@@boring7823 Well the answer is even easier than that. We still haven't found the monopole and until we do we can't really make anything bigger than a regular O'Neil cylinder. Granted those can still be the size of a freaking continent but still. If we ever do find it, we'd probably still go with ring worlds anyways, but it's a cool idea. Matrioshka worlds are pretty hard to maintain, and we likely wouldn't want to use our own star as we would likely already have a swarm there relying on the sun. If we ever do out of shier boredom, I'd say it would take about 4000 years before we even consider it. Like he said in his video on the Kardashev scale. A small finge group in a tier 2 civilization could still be over a few billion as the entire population could reach the trillion trillions. Ah you gotta love the ability to dream.
Also i am afraid of heights. For people like me, prison would be preferable. These towers are venerable torture devices to me. I´d go insane. Seriously, i would be one of those crazy, whimpering core-hugers, who slowly starve to death in a pool of their own panic-sweat. Constant. Mortal. Fear. I´ll pass.
@@mrscruffy8045 same, but if I managed to get a place somewhere in the bottom skyscrapers of that pyramid it wouldn't be THAT bad. Imagine telling somebody your adress if you lived in that monstrosity "remember, apartment number 1 on the first floor of the bottom most southwest skyscraper in the giant floating pyramid"
I studied Arch in college (have a Minor in Arch). The Chrysler Building was an enigma to me. I did not care for it much in study/books/pictures...THEN I saw it in-person = it is gorgeous, beautiful and one of the greatest building ever designed and built. (Antoni Gaudi is the greatest Architect...EVER and Sagrada Familia is the greatest building/structure ever designed and built.)
