Maybe not, but I heard that Ahmad Shah Massoud & the Northern Alliance did not get too such support due to political and ethnic divisions from the Southern tribes & Pakistan from where most of the weapons were supplied; yet the Russians could never beat Massoud and the forces that he led - these forces also had major victories over the Russians. Local Emeralds funded a lot of the Northern Alliance.
Ofcourse the USSR would've won without foreign support to the Afghans. Note that "foreign support" isn't synonymous to "the USA". Saudi Arabia, Iran and China were supporting the Afghans too.
@@havanasyndrome3024Simple. The Soviets failed in Afghanistan because they couldn't manage to decimate the Mujahideen, who continued to be a sizable force that eventually outlived both their occupation and defeat the Soviet-dependant goverment they installed. The argument about the pro-Soviet regime is pretty odd, since the same can be said about the Vietnamese goverment installed by the US that managed to survive for two years after US withdrawal. Guess the US didn't fail at Vietnam either, right?
@@havanasyndrome3024 "The Soviets left after installing pro-Soviet government." And? So did the US at Vietnam. Both failed their strategic objectives, both lost ther respective wars. Simple to understand, isn´t it?
There way of living is wrong if they think they can create a global hub for terrorists to perform 9/11 and other international terror attacks, the USA was right to throw Bin Laden and the Taliban, the US mistake was to support the Afghan people, who we all now know are the makers of their own misfortunes
It's not that their competent fighters, it's that every regime that has occupied Afghanistan treats the population like shit and if history has shown us anything: You can't fight the population if you want to permanently hold ground
@@craniumfirst lmao don't insult sun zu by saying the afghans use his level of tactics lmao. The afghans are a fucking joke strategy wise they ride around on horses and surround enemies or hide lmfao that's basic warfare. These afghans were pushing the bolt on their m4s to make it shoot like a bolt action and calling it a sniper button. Also when the soviets starting using 6n1 ammo in their aks afghans who died because their wounds got infected or couldn't treat it in a cave would make the afghans believe the soviets were using poison bullets when they were not lmao
I had a jacket with that phrase on the back..during the time the U.S was in Afghanistan i wore it to Eid one day . .and the local news company was at the celebration and interviewed me . May Allah accept Shiekh Azzams efforts. Ameen
Lol. If the USA wanted to actually destroy Afghanistan we could simply do it from the Persian Gulf with one carrier. Our elected leaders use “military action” to enrich their donors.
Haha! Afghans defeated USA!? Where?? When!? Don't you Know in early 2000's these Afghans(Northern Resistance) sided with USA to kick Talibans asses?? And they won! USA occupied Afghans for 20yrs! Soviet union defeats against Afghans is different story from USA. Russia never defeat, never toppled and never Occupied Afghanistan in there 3years of war campaign.
@@jamesguy3428 You only kicked Taliban with the help of Northern Alliance of the late Ahmed Shah Masoud in 2001,but in 2021 you didn't trust those Tajiks rather entertain Ashraf Ghani!Americans lost so many soldiers.
@@sivaratnamasabaratnam8946 we lost more in 9/11 attack than 20 years of occupying afghan. yet we killed almost 100k taliban. we only left because we realize u guys like living in tribes being uncivilized
@@sivaratnamasabaratnam8946 „Americans lost so many Soldiers“ 2400 My Guy. How many did the Taliban lose? 53.000 and 2000 Al Qaida Members were killed.
@@charlesscott4722 Carpet bomb? In WWII. Carpet bombing is a waste. The US is far away, transporting bombs that don't hit anything useful is so Vietnam. i forgot how much it costs to transport one gallon of diesel from the US to Afghanistan, I do remember thinking it's crazy expensive. Go back and watch footage from Iraq, it was a thing of beauty. Cruise missiles hitting communications, ammo stockpiles, military bases. That's just the first wave. No communication, the enemy gets confused and they panic. In a few days, Iraq was wiped out. There were more prisoners giving up than they could handle. I don't care if you like the US or not. The US military is decades ahead of everyone else. Satellites that see thru walls, can pinpoint a cell phone and drop a bomb on it. Facial recognition from space. Real time, in HD in any weather. They know if a match has been lit. Why do you think Ukraine is whooping Russia? Any move Russia makes is seen and reported on. Even a tank being refueled. Seriously, Russia needs to go home, fire Putin for screwing up and elect someone who will bring the Russian people into the 21st century, Russia could be a good world partner that is loved by all. That's sounds better than dying, doesn't it?
it was Afghans army was defeated. US never went in a war they withdraw cause Afghans are cowards didn’t want to put up a fight after 10 yrs of training by US military was the biggest failure!
Unfortunately they were played by foreign (American) financing which united various factions in the country that had extremely different ideologies, but together all formed the Mujheideen. After the war was won against the Soviets all these groups had no reason to be united anymore and they splintered. One of these groups was the Taliban, and the rest is history.
So you're saying it was a bad thing that they were united for a while? Would you rather they fought each other instead of the Soviets then? Would you rather America didn't support them during that time? What is your point and why blame America?
@@Peopleunder The whole country would've been enslaved by Communists anyway. It really was a lesser of two evils situation. The Soviets being a global superpower were a bigger threat to the whole world than the Islamists.
The country is beautiful unfortunately their mentality still stuck in the 1400 years when the Taliban took over to oppress their own people as what Iranian have gone through and wanted to be out and unfortunately the world is in their deaf ear without the support to the Iranian people to call out for their freedom ...
@ⲰⲜϪ ⲮⲀⲖⲘⲞⲤ What contribution to the muslim world contributed to the world except keep brainwashing their sheeps by building Mega Mosques around the world for easily control ...I guess you are one of them unable to unchain yourself isnt it ...They got trillions of dollars because of the west who have discovered oil for them or they are still riding camels to this date...Give me one of the contribution their big brothers Saudi have change some of their third world muslim countries they have contributed
@ⲰⲜϪ ⲮⲀⲖⲘⲞⲤ Really in your dream and What humanity you have when muslim will kill muslim for leaving the arabic belief in the majority muslim countries ...And I guess the discovering oil will be the muslim isnt it ...
Muito obrigado pelo documentário! its super interesting especially to see those pictures of Afghan society in the 50s-60s, how modernist it was. Seldomly in the West we are presented pictures of afghan society in that way, always more of a colonial look. How a difficult war in a foreign country played part in bringing down the Soviet Union now rings familiar with the russian war in Ukraine. Peace to all Afghan people, may they now find liberation without foreign interventions.
One Thing ie observed in during withdrawal of the Soviets , that they had their planned exit in an organized way the democratic government setup after their withdrawal lasted Almost 6-7 years which means almost a term this was unlike American withdrawal in which the government fell in 3 months
They had plans to get out when they realized they were losing as they thought 💭 t was a piece of cake like they did in europe and had a rude awakening. Also many of their soldiers were defecting too.
Interesting/informative/entertaining. Excellent still-motion pictures/maps. Enabling viewers to better understand what what the orator is describing. 😉Had I had the final decision. Afghanistan 🇦🇫 wouldn’t have been invaded. Afghanistan’s rough rocky terrain makes for very difficult military operations. As the Soviet armed military forces encountered.
4:21 Introduction of socialism/communism. 4:58 1965 Nur Mohammad Taraki, Babrak Karmal and others establish People’s Democratic Party of Afghanistan (PDPA). 5:19 PDPA splits into two main factions. Khalq (more radical) and Parcham (more moderate). 6:23 1973 King Zahir Shah/Mohammad Daud Khan, bloodless coup. 9:00 / 9:22 April 1978 Saur Revolution.
Lukee The documentary. Would love If you could deal with civil war and The war crimes commited By The mujahadeen. Alot of our people never Have had good Image of mujahadinian or in pashto toppakian
Whats crazy is how from the beginning of times countries/civilizations would come into another's country/territory trying to tell them how to live etc.. No wonder these people fought for their home land and it created decades long resistance.
Zbigniew Brzezinski : President Carter signed his first order on the secret assistance to Kabul’s pro-Soviet regime opponents(six months before the Soviet invasion). That day I wrote a memorandum to the President in which I told him that that assistance would cause the Soviet intervention, we did not force the Russian intervention, we just, conscientiously, increase the intervention possibilities. --When the Soviets justified their intervention by affirming they were fighting against a secret American interference nobody believed them, though they were telling the truth. Don’t you regret it? Zbigniew Brzezinski : Regret what? That secret operation was an excellent idea... VOLTAIRE NETWORK 22 OCTOBER 2004
I am an Afghan and from a warlord family. Who says Afghans have defeated the USSR? Don't be stupid, we were west mercenaries and the west defeated the USSR in retaliation of the Vietnam war.
Советский Союз не только воевал против исламистов Афганской Исламской Партии, но и против союзников США, военных советников и инструкторов, которые поставляли оружие и боеприпасы. На стороне афганских исламистов воевали регулярные части пакистанской армии. Но СССР с 1980 по 1989 год построил сотню заводов и фабрик, 2 миллионов квадратных метров жилья, дороги , электростанции , плотину ГЭС. В Афганистане была ещё 90 тысячная афганская народная армия , союзница советской армии.
It was not really unusual for resistance leaders to negotiate cease fire, hostage exchange, bartering territory and such with the enemy, either on a local level or even with high command. The partisans and the resistance, even the Chinese and Japanese did it. Even the Taliban or the IS did that at one point,
May God protect my mother's people. The fiercest, proudest, bravest and most humble and hospitable of warriors. They give honor when received with honor and retribution when sullied. No man has ever enslaved or conquered them though many have tried. They are the tribes and they have their covenant with God. It brings tears to my eyes to think that these simple people have become a benchmark where hubris-filled empires venture to earn a feather in their cap. And like all the rest they lose. But they leave a trail of blood and death. The arrogant U.S. learned that lesson after 20 years.
How do we learn our lesson because we pushed them back so how do we learn last night the only reason why they why they came out because we left there in 2021 after 20 years they came out the mountains after we love we thought that they had their country back but no so as isis came out of the mountains they just gave up and and then I assist take over the country again
@@gregoryking8574 I will tell you how. Curb your latent racist/my culture is superior tendencies...or the classic "white man's burden" and let these societies evolve on their own. They do not need your help. And the bitter reality is that you do not go into the third world to "assist" or "help." You go to exploit. Your soldiers fight for ExxonMobil, Microsoft, various defense contractors, government contract companies and so forth. And in the last 40 years, thanks to your rabid and insane feminism, your society has become soft, weak, and feminized. Feminized males can never win in close combat against third world fighters.
When it comes to heckmatyar and the accusations of desired and attempted territorial expansion he’s no different than most of the mujahideen leaders except for basically two groups one being Massouds Northern Alliance and ‘The One Eyed King’ Mullah Omars (if I remember correctly 🙏) Taliban. In fact when I think about Afghan history between 1930’s-2000 I tend to compare it to Chinese history between 1910-1970’s they both went from kingdoms/dynasties to republic and coalition style governments, they both had a warlord period except at different points in their time lines being 1918-1934 for China and then about 1987/88-1997/8 for Afghanistan, they both had to fight off the yolk of a much larger invader with almost incomprehensible tactics and technology and came out on top using gorilla war supplies from the United States, for both nations the last two factions standing after years of fighting a technologically advanced occupier and themselves was a secular and democratic faction and a radical faction, and for both beautiful countries sadly the radical faction won out.
Whosoever have more support, more people, more fighters along with leadership of exceptional quality in their camps had won.Majority of population were with radicals due one reason or other resulting in defeat of other side. Along with this we 98% heard, watch, read the propaganda suits to the west to shape our liking or disliking.
If one goes back in history Rajputs conquests of afghan Maratha conquests of afghans is not mentioned and conveniently forgotten Russians leaving Afghanistan in 90 led to massive Islamist movements across af pak and we see the results of it across the world
6:31 from the famine that occured in 1971-72 according to a documentary i saw, zahir shah apparently didnt do much about it, a factor that led to daoud khan taking the situation in his hands. 7:22 Pashtuns of the northwest were unable to join Afghanistan/declare an independent Pashtunistan, they were forced into Pakistan.
I am pakistani pashtun, our grand fathers chose to join pakistan instead of Afghanistan, keep your opinions to yourself, we don’t need you تل به وي زمونږ ګران پاکستان🇵🇰❤️
@@kaleemulhaq1683 I am pakistani pashtun continue hating yourself you embarrassment 😂 NWFP was forced into Pakistan, there was no choice other than that. But stay happy as the government levels your province you slave.
@@kaleemulhaq1683 you're delusional. We pashtuns wanted to either join afghanistan or create pashtunistan. The punjabi government only allowed specific areas of kpk to vote, 90% of the areas weren't allowed to choose. You're brainwashed if you think we willingly joined pakistan.
@@3x0ticContent nah it is called difference in opinion. Its normal for human even people that have similiar skin colour to have differeng opinion. Jusf look at america with their polarisation
We didn't learn anything. The Russians recommended that we not enter Afghanistan but off we went. I see too many parallels in both wars and I was foolish enough to join the army thinking I'd be making a change and be "protecting" my country...
Why would USA listen to their rival? USA and Russia sworn enemies without fighting each other. Of course USA wanted to show Russia how things are done. I wouldn't listen to my rival. If anything I want to accomplish something he couldn't do and throw it in his face.
16:10 We can’t know the real answer, but don’t be so sure that America didn’t play a part in baiting the USSR to get involved in Afghanistan. America certainly wanted the Soviets to think they were involved, real or imagined, to suck them in.
Thank you, you tell us the history, we most not have time for the usa government, we have to bring back the OTTOMAN EMPIRE, as for RUSSIA crimes is less then usa crimes, RUSSIA most apologies to us, and have AFFIES WITH us, but all we want is to build a Islamic state country, independent Islamic state country, under no super power.
My relatives were in the Afghan Army during this war. They fought against the Mujahideen. My uncle was in places such as Kabul and Jalalabad, and more.
Again this is more black and white history about “Afghanistan” and the British colonial terms such as “graveyard of empires”. Afghanistan first emerged in the late 1800s as a buffer state between the Russian empire and British India raj. Before that such a state with these political boundaries didnt exist. “Afghanistan” is also a multi cultural society with different cultures, languages and phenotypes. So it’s not correct to term all these people as “afghan”. The war against the soviets today is seen as a glorious time by the non Pashtuns/afghans but seen as a dark period by the Pashtun/afghan. This war enabled the non pashtuns(especially tajiks) to gain weapons and power, gain back their ancestral lands that were given to Pashtuns by the state (which was backed by Britain and then soviets). Today ahmad shah massoud is seen as a hero by the tajiks. In this video you seem to make him out as a traitor for signing a truce with the soviets, which is part of war, but failed to mention the 7 soviet invasions on his base in the panjshir valley that terrorised its inhabitants. But due to that truce massoud was able to regroup his forces, expand to neighbouring provinces and by the late 80s he was in control of most of northern Afghanistan, traditionally known as the Tajik country.
او بسته نسل قومت را گایم تاجک غیرت میداشت زن خود را زیر لنگ روسیه بزرگ نمی کرد خاندان لک لک تان را گایم بر در تاجکستان غیرت شما تخم موردگو معلوم میشود که زیر کیر کی تغذیه میشود نسل نجس شش پدره شینگری تان
Sikhs Iranians Turks Huns and Mughals all defeated and conquered Afghanistan Red army came to help not conquer They killed 10 times more dushman so won And dr Najeebullah defeated dushman even after Soviets left in jalalabad Until money ran out
Yes you can walk in someone's homeland and tell them what to do and how to live. The Soviets got caught out. Just like us Americans. The Afghanis have been fighting each other and foreign powers forever. You can't do anything to make them like your government or their government. Get over it.
First the English then the Soviet’s, finally the American and its allies French British danish etc. all these Christian’s failed to conquer the land of my mujahideen brothers
Why Allah left Afgans alone during this period of lack of food during hunger ness, lack of Medical aid medicines during this time of disease ? Above that natural calamities like earthquakes, floods are killing the people. The western banks at least should return their cash deposit to purchase food and medicines from abroad.
If you had continued watching, you would have learned that they sent the Spetznaz to assassinate that very same UN Recognized government 3 days after unilaterally sending 80,000 troops into Afghanistan under the guise of a preexisting "friendship treaty". Lmao.
And who put that government in power? Afghan Communism revolution was only 20-30% of the country the rest of the country was against it. Therefore the Afghan people did not want the Soviet puppets in charge but could not do anything about it militarily. Forced and pressured by the Soviets against the will of the people.
According to wiki, the Mujahideen began not from the soviet union but from the initial people's party overthrow in 1978. The soviets did not know about the revolution and were actually previously allied with the king. Though these days, it is characterized as the soviet revolution.
The Soviets invaded Afghanistan and stormed the king's palace and assassinated him He was replaced by his relative The king was previously supported by the Soviets untill they realised he wasn't socialist enough for them
The true reason why the USSR tried to take Afghanistan is because they viewed them as a subservient who they had been supporting since the beginning of the Cold War and thought that they could have an ocean port that was free of ice year round. Period...
But think about the after affects of dropping of those large consignments of weapons on nations all around Ukraine. Pakistan, iran, Northern Indian regions also bleeded badly by a part of these weapons smuggled outside Afganistan.
MI6: Yank, stop stepping on our shoes in Pakistan that is our turf! CIA: Your "shoes" are killing civilians and intentionally creating ethnic tensions with genocide being the stated outcome. MI6: Clearly. What else would British shoes do?
Hmmm....the Soviet retreat from Afghanistan not because of Taliban's but from similar reason US retreat from Vietnam. In Soviet case it was destruction of the USSR and Warsaw pact among other things...
It would have taken longer, but would still have happened. American soldiers would still die and public opinion would become a political problem. Eventually, with little to gain and more to lose, operations in Afghanistan would cease. The only difference between the Americans and Russians is the fact that Soviets left the country with their equipment. Documentaries on Afghanistan duriing the western occupation display problems Afghans experienced.
Idk if the content creator is Muslim but o asume he, or they (the team), are. So seeing the use of such misnomers like “Islamist” is sad 😞. Granted I know this is all produced within a western ontology but still ….. much love though I enjoy this channel a lot
In the West, the term "Islamist" refers to a political group that is centered on Islam. There are similar groups in America, who are called "Evangelical Conservatives", due to being people who base their conservative beliefs on Evangelical Christian theology. I don't know how it's percieved where you live though, so it may be different.
I think the Soviet Union was better at defeating itself, its economy was barely functional, based on ideology that could not be made to work in practice. Involvement in Afghanistan was a big mistake for an already stressed and overstretched system.
You should remove hikma from your channel. Massoud was a lion and charisma in his work. He was brave, intelligent, and a true muslim. Doing ceasefire is something that even our prophet did with his enemies. How you can attack when you give your work not to? A muslim should be a man of his word. It seems this channel is talibani/pakistani
