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How the ancient game of Go is a guide to modern life | Silvia Lozeva | TEDxPerth 

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@justin9202
@justin9202 15 дней назад
Honestly go is by far one of the most inspirational games on the planet. It also inspired the QR code in several other creations.
@ShawnRay
@ShawnRay 4 года назад
Finally a Go Ted talk!!
@davidmunhofen7889
@davidmunhofen7889 3 года назад
I hope you are allready working on some rough drafts of "your upcoming" TED Talk...? :) ?Yes? (:
@ksaraf23
@ksaraf23 3 года назад
Knew I’d find you here. You’re one of the first people I found when I got into go. Hope you can get a chance to give a lecture like this one day!
@ShawnRay
@ShawnRay 3 года назад
@@ksaraf23 haha me too!
@gameofgo2008
@gameofgo2008 4 года назад
Beautiful talk. "Don't be greedy" and actively learn from your competition in a respectful way.
@JohnArnoldUK
@JohnArnoldUK 7 месяцев назад
This so perfectly explains why I love Go so much.
@nortonofnorthamerica
@nortonofnorthamerica 3 года назад
I too am a terrible Go player. I love it for the same reasons
@ksaraf23
@ksaraf23 3 года назад
Same here
@BenKyoBaduk
@BenKyoBaduk 2 года назад
Elegantly simple, profoundly deep.
@srinivasanraghunathan8656
@srinivasanraghunathan8656 2 года назад
One of the fantastic talks about how to use gamification in real life and get benefits. GO should be taught in every school curriculum across the globe.
@lovson7276
@lovson7276 Год назад
i went to take my son's first Go class today and found it interesting. thanks for sharing the knowledge. Trying to find more!
@jeffreyphandani5160
@jeffreyphandani5160 Год назад
u should, its really good for brain
@JohnSmith-rr8hp
@JohnSmith-rr8hp Месяц назад
When I was 25kyu, I didn't know two eyes will make a group alive and I would try to surround and kill them, wasting 30 moves to realize they cannot be killed. When I was 15kyu, yes, I tried to save every stones and eat every enemy stones that are played inside "my territory", only to find that "my walls" suddenly become dead, and "my territory" become theirs. The less I wanted to compromise, the more dead stones I have. Since I didn't want to compromise/sacrifice anything, I often have half the board worth of dead stones When I was 10kyu in strength, I try to attack enemy groups by blindly destroying their eye space, only to see them escape and survive, and I ended up behind in territory because my attack did nothing, and my moyo (framework) have been destroyed in the process. When I was 5kyu in strength, I cut them at every opportunity, trying to fight when I have no supporting stones nearby. I'd often lose the fights and will have big groups die in a blaze of glory, blaming it all on luck because my opponent just happened to have stones at the key places as the fights develop. Little did I realize, everything was my own making. Now I'm 2kyu in strength, I play ever simpler move, and much more defensive. The aggression is starting to subside inside me, and my ranks started to climb. I see weaker opponents start a fight against my strong group, like a bird hitting a brick wall. The less I try to forcefully kill them, the more likely they end up dead, it is counter-intuitive.... And I barely understood the very very very basics of go, I think of myself as someone that's trying to learn English (from a non-English background) and have only just learnt all the alphabets. It is a very deep game, compared to Chess. May more ppl discover the beautiful game of Go !!!
@daisydaffsforever723
@daisydaffsforever723 2 года назад
So impressed with your speech.....love Melanie...see you in Perth soon
@gessicacom_g
@gessicacom_g 3 года назад
Thank yoi for inspiring me to contiue learning how to play Go, Silvia 🙏🏻
@glockdookie5231
@glockdookie5231 Год назад
Howd it go? I just spent the last 3 days trying to figure it out and can just now say i kindof get it
@linmengshi2008
@linmengshi2008 2 года назад
Weiqi (Go) is very complex and profound. It has its own beauty.
@jeffreyphandani5160
@jeffreyphandani5160 Год назад
it is really beautifull, complex yet so simple
@rudyteja8977
@rudyteja8977 4 года назад
Thanks very much for the inspiring introduction to the game. Will start to learn it... 😊🙏🏻❤️
@michaelkeane1084
@michaelkeane1084 4 года назад
wonderful talk. Very inspiring Silvia
@TomvanBodegraven
@TomvanBodegraven 3 года назад
Fantastic talk on the game of Go. A long overdue Ted talk. Well done and well presented.
@Cabin_Fever13
@Cabin_Fever13 3 года назад
Might be the best Ted Talk i’ve ever seen
@lisbethabad
@lisbethabad Год назад
fantastic, i didn't know this game, nice talk
@princess_kishi
@princess_kishi 2 года назад
Started yesterday playing go.
@elshisu
@elshisu 4 года назад
Interesting. I have played go for years (every now and then) as chess and I love both in their own way. For me Go is only second to xianqi.
@imlarge
@imlarge 3 года назад
You only start to see the possibilities on the GO Board only after u reach below 20kyu
@xxsnow_angelxx3953
@xxsnow_angelxx3953 9 месяцев назад
Looking back, chess have similar compounds but it feels more aggressive. After certain time the growth in it isn’t the same margin as Go
@sharingmatters
@sharingmatters 2 года назад
Thank you, Silvia, for you meaningful talk!
@KOUGA108
@KOUGA108 4 года назад
Wait i was in the same Go club as her a few years ago in Curtin University.
@alexcoyg3281
@alexcoyg3281 2 года назад
Choices is part of any game, life is choices, make them yours
@YSFmemories
@YSFmemories 4 года назад
Who came here from r/baduk? :D
@gameofgo9172
@gameofgo9172 4 года назад
We!!! 😄😄
@johngibson4874
@johngibson4874 3 года назад
Me
@YSFmemories
@YSFmemories 3 года назад
@@chefkoo no.
@ClarkPotter
@ClarkPotter Год назад
I'm a board game aficionado and competitive chess player, and imo, Go is humanity's greatest board game. I prefer it to chess and they're not even in the same ballpark. It takes a couple dozen games to feel like you have any idea wtf is going on at all, which can turn off those that aren't comfortable with ambiguity and not knowing for a while, but then it begins to flourish in your mind like nothing else.
@studentofsmith
@studentofsmith 10 месяцев назад
My strong recommendation is to start beginners off on the 9x9 board. It's much easier to understand what's happening and you can learn basic tactics before graduating to the 19x19 board.
@osXcanada
@osXcanada 7 месяцев назад
A couple dozen? Try 6,000 games and I still really have no clue!
@StormWolf01
@StormWolf01 4 года назад
The sequence they play at 4:50, they play again at 7:40. Whoever edited botched the job.
@NoHandleToSpeakOf
@NoHandleToSpeakOf 3 года назад
Nice catch!
@davidmunhofen7889
@davidmunhofen7889 3 года назад
I was wondring why at least a move or two seemed to disapear, later in the game. :)
@AndIChoseToSpeakFAX
@AndIChoseToSpeakFAX 3 года назад
Woah, insane observation
@lyde73
@lyde73 2 года назад
Literally was about to comment that lmao
@quach8quach907
@quach8quach907 Год назад
Very good. But there are 2 other contenders. Chess Poker. "You've got to know when to hold 'em know when to fold 'em and know when to run . . ."
@kevinwang6412
@kevinwang6412 9 месяцев назад
The real question is, how did the match on the side go?
@JohnSmith-rr8hp
@JohnSmith-rr8hp Месяц назад
They both missed big opportunity to kill the opponent.
@rbpompeu1
@rbpompeu1 4 года назад
Beware of the right way to hold the stones!
@davidmunhofen7889
@davidmunhofen7889 3 года назад
The upper class Chinese and "their proper" way of doing everthing... :) I played a elderly retired Professional Wei-Qi/ GO board player in the 2000 GO Congress. And I was pleasently taken back by his every regular person kind of way of just picking up the stone with his thumb and forefinger and then very gently moving to the place on the board and very quitly placing his stone. I really enjoyed watching him do this each time. And thought to myself, we are deluding ourselves on "proper" picking up and thunking our stones down to make a noise each time. :) I am glad that I was able to take this lesson with me from that day foward.
@rbpompeu1
@rbpompeu1 3 года назад
@@davidmunhofen7889 The exception cannot be taken as a rule. There is a right way to hold the stones and that is part of the game beauty.
@alexcoyg3281
@alexcoyg3281 2 года назад
@@rbpompeu1 is there? Rules can be broken, laws can be bent, that is what you learn in any game
@musikkimies
@musikkimies 4 года назад
That was great!
@NoHandleToSpeakOf
@NoHandleToSpeakOf 3 года назад
The game can make you laugh 11:53
@davidmunhofen7889
@davidmunhofen7889 3 года назад
seemed like both were eather a kind of beginner level or just at least pretending to be, for the audiance, for some reason...? :)
@bozmar1
@bozmar1 10 месяцев назад
Shogi japanese chess is as good as go maybe better . Go is good but very static compared to shogi that is a very dynamic and ballanced battle between strategy and tactics and where captured pieces can be introduced back into the game . The biggest problem of shogi to be popularized into the world is that the game is played with unconfortable oriental characters on the pieces . Anyway all is about tastes both being great games
@pipedreamkahuna
@pipedreamkahuna 4 года назад
Aloha. Hilo, Hawaii has a Go club.
@davidmunhofen7889
@davidmunhofen7889 3 года назад
Aloha. Do you have to learn a certain traditional native Hawaii dance to become a member at this club...? :)
@versathaiyoga
@versathaiyoga 3 года назад
@@davidmunhofen7889 haha. no need for any of that. Unfortunately, the club meetings have been suspended due to virus protocols.
@cragjones1799
@cragjones1799 2 года назад
Everything was about getting along in all sorts of ways . Then its about GO taking over chess...lol I know she didn't mean it that way but it still seemed funny..
@Shizaru2723
@Shizaru2723 2 года назад
Kind of weird that they aren't actually playing the game, no? Compare 4:53 to 7:42
@FishKungfu
@FishKungfu 3 года назад
That was cool.
@the_thunder_child
@the_thunder_child 3 месяца назад
Go is a great game with a lot of complexity. But to relate it to the philosophical matters of life is quite a stretch, to put it lightly. It's just a game, where you try to win based on a set of rules.
@Romanyoni
@Romanyoni 9 месяцев назад
Too deep. It looks like if she had played chess as a child, the title would have been "How the ancient game of Chess is a guide to modern life"
@TheRockMorton
@TheRockMorton 3 года назад
GO (game), I CHING (oracle), DNA (manifestation of Nature's game and oracle)
@jacksonfitzsimmons4253
@jacksonfitzsimmons4253 3 года назад
Take your meds.
@AndIChoseToSpeakFAX
@AndIChoseToSpeakFAX 3 года назад
What??
@AT-AT-AT-AT
@AT-AT-AT-AT 2 года назад
shocked to learn that people from the former soviet union didn’t like socialism!
@dannychen1768
@dannychen1768 3 года назад
As a 5d Go player, I would say the two players in this Ted talk played at a beginner level while using an expensive, professional Go set.
@hrushikesh708
@hrushikesh708 3 года назад
I wanna learn to play but the set is too expensive and there aren't people who can play help
@dannychen1768
@dannychen1768 3 года назад
@@hrushikesh708 You can play online with other internationals.
@Lamb785
@Lamb785 3 года назад
@@hrushikesh708 You can buy a magnetic set on Amazon for about $20, that's what I use (not sure if it's the exact same one, I got mine awhile ago). I usually play online and play out the game on my board at the same time, since I don't really know many people IRL who play (and, well, there's covid now anyways).
@totalhenry
@totalhenry 3 года назад
Its kind of weird to see that level of play on such a nice board. That being said, I'm probably not much better and I also want to play on a board like that
@bikesroget1
@bikesroget1 2 года назад
It looks better for the talk than a cheap set. The game they are playing is hardly the point
@mohammedmansoor4347
@mohammedmansoor4347 2 года назад
Chess is nothing when compared to GO game, and when chess player plays GO game they say chess is easy compared to GO game. Go is very hard board game.
@amanahmed6057
@amanahmed6057 2 года назад
ME WHO IS HERE AFTER "HIKARU NO GO" AND GOING TO LEARN "GO"
@eydaimon
@eydaimon 4 года назад
I don't know why she says it's just 1500 years when recent movies like "the surrounding game" said 5000. 1500 years is the lowest number I've ever heard
@lemonz1769
@lemonz1769 4 года назад
eydaimon She said 40 centuries ago
@rumfordc
@rumfordc 4 года назад
she made it very clear its 4000+ years old.
@phelan_pt
@phelan_pt 3 года назад
There are legends, and there is history. I think the oldest found Weiqi artifact is 2000-3000 years old, and any references older than that are ambiguous as to what game they referred to, Weiqi vs other ancient abstract games. The myths and legends place it much earlier, as 4000 years or older, but there is no basis to believe they are true.
@TomvanBodegraven
@TomvanBodegraven 3 года назад
She never actually said "1500 years".
@elchinpirbabayev5757
@elchinpirbabayev5757 3 года назад
behind iron curtain I had access to ... books... on eastern philosophies.. I thought they could read only Marx ))) Bulgaria which once boasted that they had the biggest colony in the form of USSR and were ranked 29th on human development index, of all nations.
@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人
@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人 2 года назад
The blonde guy doesn't know how to hold the piece. The young boy holds it correctly. Also, the Chinese rules since 1400CE has one rule called 還碁頭 which gives the connectivity aspect of 圍棋. The Japanese rules are very ambiguous and missed the original philosophy of 圍棋.
@corrick4339
@corrick4339 Год назад
can you explain?
@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人
@@corrick4339 The ways the two hold and place the stones.
@corrick4339
@corrick4339 Год назад
@@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人 ah I meant the concepts/philosophies that differ between Chinese and Japanese rules and what the Japanese got wrong
@燕北山前萬梅山莊主人
@@corrick4339 I see. The definition of a life territory is to have at least two eyes. So the original Chinese rules require not counting one stone for each and every territory. This is know as 還碁頭. The implication is ideally to have the smallest numbers of territory, and Weiqi is not only a territory game but also connection game. This rule was abolished by the Chinese government in official games in the 1980's to align with Japanese and Korean rules, but still used in non-offcial games, for example in Internet Weiqi websites.
@АфаАфар
@АфаАфар Год назад
Any info about Go philosophy ??
@makalagarrettowens4329
@makalagarrettowens4329 4 года назад
Somebody please get her some water!
@gold6917
@gold6917 3 года назад
She is not a native speaker.
@jacklonghearse9821
@jacklonghearse9821 3 года назад
Go will never take over chess, they’re both extremely well-crafted, balanced and valuable games. They are the Yin and Yang of board games. The masculine and feminine. You should absolutely learn both ways. Chess also doesn’t require you to capture every piece, it’s up to you to make that decision. The point is to corner the king.
@nickgutierrez7884
@nickgutierrez7884 2 года назад
It depends. I think they both have their niches. I hate chess but I love Go indeed. Chess is too structured and Go is more creative.
@maciejgulak3530
@maciejgulak3530 2 года назад
For sure Go is a female 🤣
@Ungoliant85
@Ungoliant85 Год назад
Partially agree with this. Philosophically speaking, both games are perfect in embodying archetypal approaches to our human nature. Chess, with rows of soldiers marching forward to capture each other, embodies the conflict of "man vs. man," committing regicide and eliminating the opposing faction. Given that the handicap system in Go indicates a player's standing relative to other players, an honest player can expect to lose about half of their games. Therefore, Go can be seen as a quest for self-improvement, "man vs. himself." If you make strategic decisions for your own benefit, victory naturally follows. You need the opponent to populate the board.
@GGMarkoff
@GGMarkoff 10 месяцев назад
In Chess you are Al Capone fighting for power in Chicago. In Go your Winston Churchill fighting to win WW2. In Chess you are fighting a battle, in Go you are fighting a war.
@pulsar2842
@pulsar2842 3 года назад
Uncle iroh brought me here ☺️
@swank0808
@swank0808 3 года назад
can you say "i think you freaky and i like it alot" once for me .
@alexcoyg3281
@alexcoyg3281 2 года назад
😂😂😂✊👍🙋
@dhardy8760
@dhardy8760 4 года назад
Great video but she could of used a glass of water. Sounds like she had glue drying in her mouth.
@slaiyfershin
@slaiyfershin 8 месяцев назад
Lol both players are just playing a horrible game, adding nothing to her talk.
@alfonsoviejo8917
@alfonsoviejo8917 3 года назад
This is ridiculous xdddd
@firstnlastn3571
@firstnlastn3571 4 года назад
바둑은 중국에서 만든 것이 아니다
@CL-po8ud
@CL-po8ud 4 года назад
😏
@Manhwa108
@Manhwa108 3 года назад
그럼 어디서 만드는 거?
@passenger1670
@passenger1670 3 года назад
so tell me where is go from? from korea? Does Korea have 4000 years of history? i know koreans like to say we create this, we create that, yes, koreans create suns, create univers, hehe...
@passenger1670
@passenger1670 3 года назад
Stop stealing Chinese culture , koreans !!!
@孙笑川-d5f
@孙笑川-d5f 3 года назад
围棋是中国发明的,韩国人偷窃中国文化、韩国人都是小偷
@xXSpamMeNotXx
@xXSpamMeNotXx 3 года назад
This Ted talk is seriously deep for a board game
@romeolachapelle5349
@romeolachapelle5349 3 года назад
i saw a weapon of war right away...genghis khan weapons of bend the knee or die in the middle crush...go game...war game between Xi and the west.
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