How the "Super" F-22 Dominates the Pacific 

Bruh, the game shows secret military details 😂

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i play warthunder already can i still get the stuff

Dude it's a russian game! :) Think twice before taking money from russians.

Never forget all of the Russians who abused children and their families in Ukraine. From the mass graves (in Izium) to the stolen children. Now if parents don't become Russian citizens and go to flight against their brothers and cousins Russia will take their newborn children at birth. Speaking of Izium. What did those 414 people see? The Russians thought it was better to murder them and bury them all in a mass grave instead of letting them testify. Whatever they saw must have been truly horrific. If Russia want's to sign a treaty they must first prove they will stand by one. If Russia wants to negotiate, start with your original written agreement. Pull back all of their troops back behind their original boarder and then you can start negotiations. If they don't show they will honor the original agreement how can you expect them to honor any further agreements. It's our war to lose. Russia can NOT win. Unless we choose to not support Ukraine of course. It is on us in the global West to pick the world we want to live in. Choose wisely. Thanks. Glory to Ukraine. God Bless Ukraine and her people. 🇺🇦🇺🇸

Under Rated AS FUCK!..... Lets give em an airshow

​@@karther1058"Watch the skies, General."

China will grow larger

Damn, now that's fucking nostalgia

Give it that dark spine livery 🥵

"I've had it with this air to air vegan diet!"

"I'd intercept me so hard" 😂

Let the upgraded kid EAT!

Kid needs a cape now.

@@jamesogden7756 I'm now worried they might not be able to keep the kind in the hangar anymore.

It makes more sense to just replace them with F-35s, though. Those are way more cost effective. F-22s are only marginally better at dogfighting while being many times more expensive. Meanwhile, F-35s can also replace strike aircraft, further bolstering their numbers. 2-3000x F-35s are just better than 700x F-22s at air superiority, while simultaneously offering far superior ground strike capabilities.

​@@Dubanxoptions F35 might not be that great against j32 F22 would have ffet a different threat. Like having two golf clubs instead of one.

@@Dubanx The F-22 is only expensive because they canceled more then 2/3rds of the orders and blcoked it from export 750 orders to under 200 produced, the 35 costs less because they're making more then 15 times as many aircraft. Not to mention its a stealth aircraft thats not stealth when carrying air to ground ordenence and it cant even carry a lot so they're trying to extend the F-15 and F-16 life spans while simutaniously building more of them. The only thing the 35 has going for it is the Electronics suite and even then there's a chance the plane doesnt react to the pilots input upon landing which has been noted not only by pilots but by the plane itself in 3 or 4 crashes.

If you're talking about simple deadliness, no high-end fighter jet is not deadly, on pure speed and the ability to carry deadly missiles, even those from the rotary phone era. The F-15 is as powerful and fast as the F-22; and the latter could shoot down all current high end jets that the Russians and Chinese CURRENTLY have. (.... The reason we know the J-20 is not anywhere near the capability of the F-22 is the same reason we know the South Koreans cars, of the 1990s, were NOWHERE near the quality and sophistication of Japanese, American, and Western European cars of the 1990s.... It takes a few DECADES to catch up to people who've been building some specialized thing for MANY DECADES before you got started....) But we are talking about having AN EDGE over a "near-peer" competitor... We are talking about "RELATIVITY"... If you flew the mighty F-22 against the mid-size, mid-range (in the sphere of physicality) F-35, the mighty F-22 WILL BE SHOT DOWN. It doesn't matter how people who worship the mighty F-22 proclaim it is "the most deadly" fighter jet ever built. The F-35's computational and data processing capabilities are up to 30 times superior to the 1990s F-22. Some historical perspective: when the first 4 Cray Super Computers were made available to public research universities in the US, late 1980s/early 1990s --- one came to my alma mater, in San Diego; and the university had to build a giant 2-storie building to house & to cool it ---- the fastest super computational speeds were in the 3 to 5 G-FLOPS. Today, most of your high-end CELL PHONES could do up to the one T-FLOPS range. TECHNOLOGICALLY --- computationally, data link capability, avionics, "user sensor" (how the F-22 still operate with a helmet made for ANALOG screen), radar, etc --- the mid-range F-35 is about 25 years ahead of the mighty dog-fighting/interceptor F-22 from the 1990s. Anyway, HIGH-END MISSILES ---- both the smaller air to air missiles fighter jets carry and the much larger and faster ground to air they have ---- from all advanced nations don't really care how fast all high-end aircraft fly. You unknowingly fly a giant aircraft (Mach 1.5, Mach 2.5, etc) into a volley of Patriots, S-400, etc. and your chances of dying are very high.... because most high end air to air missiles travel between Mach 4 and Mach 6 and some high end ground to air missiles travel over Mach 10.

​​@@kiabtoomlauj6249f22 has double the radar range of f35. It has thrust vectoring. Better stealth by almost double over f35. The f22 Caries more missiles. And has supercruise. F35 was a cheap f22. The f22 would wipe any f35 from the sky. And why the military kept it top secret unlike f35.

F22's will likely be retired once NGAD's are deployed en mass. F22 upgrade is just supposed to be a stop gap so America doesn't have its pants down if China decides to invades Taiwan before a significant amount can be built to counter.

@@floofy5529 I doudt it because NGAD is likely not made to do all the things the Raptor can like dogfight and point defense...

@@floofy5529 Floofy is correct, it's to catch the F22 with recent advances. Missiles are catching up to with the AIM-260. I hope the NGAD is a combination of the F22/F35. Just because most engagements will be BVR, it doesn't mean the enemy can push into WVR. Making the same mistake that we did in Vietnam and didn't have guns. Granted, they are more advance and accurate now but nothing is 100%

​@floofy5529 yeah, given the military's history of failed programs and their delayed roll out, the F22 is gonna be here with us for a while longer

@@gld1010 the guns myth isn’t really all that true though The issue wasn’t the lack of guns but rather a lack of training with missiles After Top Gun was established, naval aviators were slaughtering the enemy with missiles and did better than the USAF pilots Technology always wins BUT it REQUIRES solid training and tactics too

He was also an F-105 squadron and wing commander who flew a combat tour in Vietnam!

rest in peace ace

He was also an F-105 squadron and wing commander who flew a combat tour in Vietnam!

Rest in peace Ace

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Like guam, kadena (okinawa), misawa, yokota, osan, or another Allie nation. I still remember when raptors first showed up at kadena, along with patriot batteries. And the protestors and their raptor go home signs.

technically, it can be launched from one, but can't LAND on one

F-15EXS Space Interceptor

​@@heartlessangel1460 F-15EXSI

F-15X/WING

Long live the BUFF!

Space hen.

Littoral was horrid, it was plagued with issues before even reaching the sea

No. We and all our allies now have hundreds of the f35.

​@@ZOV24-2-22Nah, the lessons learned from them will be worth their weight in gold in future warship design. Besides, I heard that the ones built are being considered to be converted into hypersonic missile cruisers.

@@bowencreer3922F-35 was meant to operate with the F-22. The Raptor would sweep the sky while Fat Amy would sweep ground defense and strike targets. If the F-35 on its own was adequate, the USAF wouldn’t see the need to buy the F-15EX.

@@bowencreer3922 ya but its a multi role strike fighter.. our doctrine as always been to have a high end interceptor like the f14 15 and 22 and strike fighters usually more of a economic work horse. think f 16 and 18 they work well together. that decision left us with the f15 being our front line interceptor while its pushing 60 years old also it left us with few than 200 raptor for years before the f35 ever flew it was a short sighted cost saving measure. It also drove up the price of spare parts being that there are few of them. on top of all that it increases the use of each airframe making them fatigue rapidly.

The problem is that a lot of the Raptors that won't get the upgrade isn't due to cost. But a little bit of right to repair with lack of schematics for a few of the items and they have been victims of one of the WORST enemies out there that attacks and can kill any craft, both civilian and military, and can't be shot down. Rust / Corrosion... there are images out there where you can see the front of the canopy heavily rusted, and when you see the rust, it is usually a lot worse underneath. With the schematics gone, getting replacement parts is difficult, and the cost to fix would exceed developing something new, which is why the older ones are vanishing.

I think that's what makes western militarys superior. Problems are discussed and addressed. Look at Russia, their leadership believed their own propaganda about it's military and then Ukraine happened. Not that the Russian military isn't capable but knowing ones shortcomings helps to compensate.

That's why it was funny when he showed the Su-57 "Pipedream" as a threat. I get China is working on things with tech they stole from us, but Russian computer graphics and props that rust in the rain without electronics aren't exactly impressive.

Name one thing or weapon that China has said is the best thing ever and better than usas. You can't name one except the ones that actually ARE superior, like certain hypersonic missiles. And that's mainly American generals etc who are saying it's superior. It's Americans who say China is a peer competitor, not China. Chinese don't brag or talk and are humble. It's Americans who's motto is Americans exceptionalism or America fuck yeah. Chinese let their actions do the talking otherwise they wouldn't even talk.

@@Blodhelm while the cornercut trophey wife «F-22» which can't really guide its AIM-120 and evade doing that, and doesn't have the third eye yet has PYLONS(Rimembah: stelf tiknologii, "myh reptor has less RCS than a bird"©)

​@@ex0duzz hyper sonic missiles are their claims but they haven't proved the capability. They claim the J20 is better then the g22 and f35 so yes they overplay their hand, not as bad as the Russians though

True although Modern AESAs are often harder to detect

No, not harder to detect, but harder to jam or disturb. Output effect is output effect and any semi-modern EW suite will detect and track it.

There are also radar modes which have been in use for a long time that are passive. Track while scan is one of those. It is possible to detect and lock onto a target using this passive method but it is not as precise.

@@Wargasm54 What "features" do the Russians "prominently on their aircraft"?

@@user-xp5id1kh4r IRST

As someone who lived back then, I can say it's an accurate description. People WERE more civilized and sophisticated back in those days.

​@@scratchy996I think people's brain were more specialized and thus, focussed on important informations for their daily lives. People nowadays have access to all the information in the world and can't stay focused on one thing at a time. Now we need AI to compensate. Simpler people in simpler times.

Haha same, even made my own comment about it. I think they actually intended to put it there 🤣🤣🤣

IKR! I joined the USAF in 1998 and have been retired from service for over 5 years😂

That was actually a forecast of life after WW3, or Weapons Technology available for WW4 ... ! ☹

F-22: 😏 "This isn't even my final form!" Evolves even further into the F-22 King Rator from "C&C: Generals", just like that.

Consuming Super Steroids

"King Raptor ready for takeoff!"

Wow interesting 😮

Huh! I was an IMIS Administrator at Holloman for 2 years. Learned something new today. Thanks!

In other words, it has effectively an infinite range.

@@TheRealAaronSmith it is limited to specific airfields in the region. I'm not sure "infinite" is the right word when there are humans on board or the mission is time sensitive.

Yeah I was looking at it going "Yeap that famous carrier variant the US made"

​@@TheRealAaronSmithBy that logic every single aircraft capable of aerial refueling has an infinite range.

@@IndigoSeirra pretty well, yep. Assuming you have the logistics to support a 24/7 refueling schedule across multiple points of the world. Which the US has. At least in theory, maybe not in current practice.For some time now, the limiting factor has been pilot endurance. We need to eat, drink, sleep, and relieve ourselves eventually, and those issues can only be mitigated for so long on an aircraft.

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How long would it take for a NGAD to become operational?

​@@LongWalkerActual, we are aiming for prototype testing by 2027 & initial production by 2030.

@@CoffeeAndPaul So.... Operational development (fully equipped units) is when?

​@LongWalkerActual full integration probably 2040 maybe 2050 gonna take a minute to make the amount we want train pilots and work out any kinks

now i feel like reinstalling C&C Generals Zero Hour

I just started mine.

Lol ! No doubt !

Don't you hate that. Sometimes.

Don't forget to take a DUMP 🤯

yeah, and conversely it works by using a low-bypass engine engine that performs more like a turbojet than a turbofan, which also makes it less fuel efficient because the bypass ratio is half that of the engines on the F-35, F-15, or F-16

I wonder if there is a secret NGAD delay so AF decided the upgrades were required?

@@redrockengineer There could be delays, but the main thing is that 2030 is a really long way away when war with China could start practically at any time. If the war starts before NGAD can take over, then the F-22 is going to be our air superiority aircraft. Though probably if war looks likely they'll just keep the F-22 around a bit longer.

It did shoot down a balloon !

Just say special interest payed off the congress, Lockheed Martin

the F-22 is a compromise design to placate the fighter mafia, built around supermanuverability. But classic dogfights haven't been a thing since Vietnam.

@@MrRinoHunter Lockheed gets plenty for a new design. The F-35 cost $1.2 trillion and they say it still needs reworking, like a second engine. Lockheed wins either way.

They do you just can't see it. It is so stealthy it deleted itself from all media.

on the bright side, finally not mistaken for Indonesia

The mighty F-106 also had IRST, plus TADIL A datalink.

That's basically the F-35.

It's more of a flying ninja. Stealthy, highly maneuverable, and lethal against adversary aircraft. The F-35 would fit the sniper rifle analogy much better. It is mostly a long range/BVR focused aircraft, stealthy, and performs recon.

The Generals from the Bradley program: "There's some space on the nose, just stick another couple missiles there."

This can’t be real 😂😂

I think there's a few issues with how the missiles were displayed. As far as I understood, sidewinder were carried, ironically, in the side bays, where AMRAAMs or whatever would be in the belly. I don't see how or why they'd switch them around, just to have 2 sidewinders in that huge belly bay that can hold 6 AMRAAMs and 2 in the nose on top of that? Weird.

incorrectly modeled in the video, the 6 AMRAAMs are stored in the center bays and the sidewinders are in the side bays

Have you people ever seen a photo of the F22 it has a side door on each side for the aim-9 seperate from the big missile bay just google f22 missile bays open

I remember a war game a while back. The US vs china. The givens were that every missile china fired missed. Every missile the US fired hit. The US lost. We didn't have enough planes/missiles. The Chinese fighters then took out all of our AWACS and tankers.

@@dave4882 I suppose the distances involved will severly reduce availability of US jets near china. China has a natural advantage there. Even if you could 100% stopgap the fuel issue with tankers, the pilots cant stay in the air forever in some narrow fighter cabin. They're out of the game while they're making the long way back.

@@dave4882 Its just war games, scenario's in rl are vastly different. Otherwise you had that one war game where you put a US general with a bunch of ragtag iraq's and they achieve the same shit, killing seals, destroying destroyers and carriers etc. Basically put, impossible scenario's or just incredibly cheating. Its a good way to learn

@Battl3Cry My point was basically that a few super weapons. No matter how good they are, will not win against a bunch of less than super weapons. Essentially, that's why the f16 exists.

@@dave4882 I'm going to need a citation for that war game as I'm unable to find anything resembling what you described.

True, but it's very difficult to predict the future and they are spendy. Too bad, moving on

That's how the NGAD will be. Might just have a directed energy weapon on board for missle defense.

This will also allow the NGAD to be super thin and stealthy.

If that's the direction, remove the internal bay for internal tanks. Or figure out stealthy CFTs

why not have 3 drones up at once you are on something and a couple AI drones at your 6 oclock just to be safe ! close air support for the ground assault drones your commanding .the AI drones to cover all 4 plos themselves your situational AWareness wil;l then be invincible... ask Tony Stark ,lol.

LOL

in the scenario you describe, we would have literally no air dominance fighters. Imagine asking our adversaries to wait a few more years, until production is ramped up.

@@aneececoltthe thing is, the F-35 can fill this role en masse The F-35 already has better Radar/EW/frontal stealth giving it the edge in BVR so we’re fine in the meantime. We should prioritize 6th Gen

@@prodigalsoniv48 that's only part of air superiority, and that's air superiority you're talking, not air DOMINANCE. There is a difference. The F-35 is great, but not perfect, and not good enough to almost depend on exclusively.

​@@aneececoltChina has maybe around 200 J-20's, we have abou 450 F-35's and about 180 F-22's. With the next generation fighter rolling out, if we lose an engagement, I dont think it'll be because we dont have enough F-22's

​@@aneececoltIs there anything out there better than the F-35's Block 4, or even in the next 10-20 years?

Relative to problems: "...We usually drop a bomb on it." -- Air Force General in Space Force the T.V. series.

Hmm? The F-16 didn't transition from fighter to bomber. Bombs have just become more advanced, and being able to deliver bombs is a basic requirement of combat aircraft.

All 8 Felons?

King Raptor ready for take off!

​@@Rimasta1 my bad. yeah, it was king raptor, not super raptor. thanks for the correction.

Scammer.

@@THE-X-Force🙂‍↕️

China surprised a bit with volumes of j22. The unknown is what will china surprise USA with in five years?

I feel like NGAD won't be ready prior to any showdown over Taiwan.

the problem is we may very well be in a war with China before 2030, at least we need to be prepared for that possibility because China is preparing to have the option to start that war in that timeframe.

Or get even more advanced planes for the same cost

It would cost far too much time and money to restart production, it would be overall less expensive to build a whole new more advanced fighter which is what they are doing with the NGAD

I say we keep the production going just for the cool Factor alone 🔥

Look at the problems getting the T-7 into production. You don't get that and the training pipeline straightened out, who is going to fly the things? Figuring out the adaptive cycle engines, latest block of F-35's power capacity, and moving into NGAD seems better spent money than starting production.

Less than 150 is not really “a bunch”