How The Mandalorian Killed the Past 

I think the Mandalorian will help take back Mandalore

fuck all that. it needs to kill the future

@@doctorwhofan-if7vx Filoni has said that over reaching story arches of the heroes are to finally let go of ego. The appeal of the lone, insular existence on the fringes of society isn't going to appeal to him anymore. He has found purpose in helping others. He is now selfless when his character was initially selfish.

Grogu has to make a light saber at some point. I'm hoping to see that.

It’ll probably be about Mando having to choose loyalties now that his quest is complete. His companions don’t all see eye-to-eye, you may notice, so I’m willing to bet he’ll have to make such a choice during the season 3 climax.

Yeah, gonna miss that guy. It'd be a shame if he'd gotten one of those Disney+ shows.

@@Crick1952 I hope he does. Surprisingly the best character this season. Bill Burr truly killed that role.

@@Chas-OTE impossible, Mayfield has died a heroic death. He will be remembered, but sadly, he will not return

@@psteeg3551 star wars is famous for prequels.

At least it was quick. More than most deaths can say

Oh, here is a Dark Saber that allows to rule Mandalor and mandolorians, one of the greatest warriors in the Galaxy. To hell, wanna take? It’s yours It was so natural of him to just be ready to give it with no back thought. Loved that moment

@@antonknirenko2899 I loved how he just kept ignoring Moff Gideon jabbing at him about how little he understands the significance, he's just "shut up, don't care about you anymore, your word doesn't mean anything, she can have it". It's like he's rolling his eyes under helmet and I can hear it

So Din is like Forrest Gump? A Savant War Hero?

@@mikejohnstonbob935 Pretty much yeah.

@@mikejohnstonbob935 not at all, he was an orphan taken in by the Mandalorians, taught to fight at a very young age and thus far has only been seen getting better. Forrest wasn't even a war hero in the conventional sense, Din is a fighter, Forrest could run really fast so he saved some dudes...

Daigoro! Be brave!

This is the way.

Everything makes perfect sense now.

Thank you urokodaki for your knowledge

Westerns have a tradition of stealing from Japanese film, as George Lucas did when writing his films.

At the end of his journey, i'd love for him to retain most of his creed ideology around his honor and word. become a bridge between the old and new ways.

@@IN-tm8mw I did not know I also wanted this, until I read your comment. That would be perfect.

Well it’s an interesting creed because it only applies to Mandalorians. So he’s not trying to push his ideas onto everyone, just Mandalorians and those who intersect with that world. So yeah, it’s cool to see him be so open minded with the Tuskens for example. (Though they themselves are a masked people, so maybe he feels empathetic towards them for that reason)

@@IN-tm8mw The issue here being that the "old ways" here seem to be an ahistoric projection of fundamentalist beliefs into the past. It's a breakaway sect of Mandalorians who dropped out of the shifting system of Clan structures and civil wars that developed towards a more open and unified Mandalore, right until they picked a fight with the Empire they couldn't win and were scattered among the stars. Never taking your damn helmet off is a really stupid idea, which is why nobody would do it unless it was drilled into them as a core belief. There may have been a thing in that direction, historically. That they would not take them off around strangers because they were an isolated, hostile society of warrior clans that didn't interact with the outside much, making it a non-issue. But as a kind of enclave in outsider societies it's a giant issue, which means it must be a very big deal so everyone would always observe it. We have seen that most Mandalorians have very much for a long time engaged with people face to face unless in battle. And Din has found out very thoroughly how counterproductive his traditions could be, how much he alienates others by never being a full person to them due to the helmet. What I see him do is try to write forth the history of his people and find a way into the future rather than cling to the past. End the clan system that promoted infighting, find if Mandalore can be resettled, probably accept that being outside the galaxy is not a good idea because it means you have no allies on the big scale. They are few enough as they are, dwindling in exile only means their creed will be lost. He managed to get cooperation between settlers and Tusken going, so I guess he can manage his people's remnants, now that he has the Darksaber.

Yes! That's (part of) the reason why the last episodes of season two were so spectacular! Mando realizing that by sticking rigidly to his religion, he was actively harming both himself and others around him. When he took off his helmet at the Imperial base (and again when saying good bye to Grogu), that was the turning point for his character. He's matured both religiously, and as a person. I may have only just gotten around to watching it a couple weeks ago, but the show has amply displayed its directing and writing genius throughout, and I can't wait to see how Mando continues to grow.

She is technically part of Death Watch which is also a cult that went to war with Mandalore proper.

I'm hoping her watching Mando take his helmet off makes her just accept the Saber and we skip right over some forced conflict between the two. The tension next season should just be over keeping it a secret that she didn't get the saber through combat.

That's also (perhaps unintentionally) a comment on religion as well: _my_ religion always has entirely rationale reasons for the things we do. _Your_ cult just does some weird-ass shit. To put it in contemporary terms: Catholic: Having to pray five times a day facing a specific direction is kind of dumb. Muslim: Says the person who has to regularly engage in ritualistic cannibalism.

@@Ryuksgelus I'm just hoping the matriarch comes back. It's such a shame to let that awesome armor go to waste

@@Ryuksgelus wait a second, what if... there's an idea forming here... ......nope nope I lost it. Damn, I could have sworn there was a good idea there

Worked well with his character. He hadn't given a damn until he learned how significant this refinery was to a repeat of what made him desert in the first place. It was no longer only the architect that had to die, but his dream if he wanted to live with himself. I was like "damn, dude."

I thought there was a huge missed opportunity to have Mayfield tempted with a return to the Empire. It would have meant a lot more jeopardy and suspense as we wait to see which way his conscience falls. At the very least we should have seen more of the Mayfield from the first series where he was completely ruthless and would betray without hesitation. I thought they rushed his redemption by making it about pure revenge.

@@questor55 betraying criminals and attacking the republic or the empire is different from rejoining a corrupt government. With the way they displayed his character, the empire tempting him would make no sense.

Yeah, it’s sad that he died

@@BillBilliamson if you could have wrote it better, by all means! Seeing Mayfield, a broken man face to face to the person that killed his former life as if it was nothing. With canon Star Wars lore with operation: cinder that is his pain. What whoopdiedoo could you think could have been better?

"It's Boba Fett! And he's got himself a LAY-DEE!"

He already does that every time he’s in front of a mic.

Honestly the best scene of the season from a writing perspective.

Just watch his stand up

Its pretty cool how they made his character similar to his stand-up personality

Yah, i remember being a kid and loving westerns so much. Adventure stories is what i called them then.

I almost missed a lot of those symbol. I am glad I watched it multiple times.

Western is a classic that’s losing its audience at this time so it’s great that media like this kept it alive

GODLESS did it best tho.

There is a lot of western elements in Japanese media if you're interested. Samurai films are basically identical in story structure, and anime like Cowboy Bebop and Space Dandy are famous for their western elements

Well this was the direction George wanted to go in.

@@KRYMauL And he did SUCH a good job with the prequels... /s

@@benvoliothefirst George wanted to double down on explaining the force, and didn't want to go into the Shakespeare direction. I mean think about it Phantom Menace is Hamlet/MacBeth, Attack of the Clones is sort of Romeo and Juliet, and Revenge of the Sith is Julius Caesar. The only problem is he change to Christopher Lee in the second one instead of doubling down on him playing a Claudius/Duncan character.

They ruined Mandalorians. They steal elements from the EU and then butchered them until they're not recognizable anymore

The tuskens finally got the fremen treatment!

they were portrayed like that in Kotor...then if you listened to the wise HK-47 you just slaughtered them all.

@@manuelaparcedo417 Statement: The meatbags had it coming, master

As others said, they were first made into a real race of people in the game Knights of the Old Republic

Tusken Raiders.* Or just "Sandpeople."

Holy hell that's the perfect way to describe it compared to the sequels

Such a shame, giving his life like that.

rip mayfield

At least it was quick

Err....only he is NOT dead. Cara Dune report "he is dead" to repay him for his help and BECAUSE she saw that Mayfield also had come "to hate" that the empire means to an end were so wicked and cruel towards inocent people. Cara didnt wanted to put him in jail again for that reason. Mayfield escaped and who knows where he is, but we may see him again. I hope.

@@shalotstage his sacrifice will not be in vain

And the fact that they totally stripped the happy ending of episode 6 ;-;

That was the best thing on the internet back then. “Or I’m gonna shoot’cha alrigt?” Lol.

@@MasterOrona it turned into I.M.P.S Relentless.

I loved those two, not just for comedic effect, but because they're pretty remarkably representative of how bored soldiers pass time. When I was in the reserves, we had a motto, "hurry up and wait". There is a lot of waiting in military life.

Also got vibes of Red vs Blue. Almost surprised one of them didn’t ask why they were there.

Maybe I’m understanding tokusatsu as the more strict meaning cuz I don’t see the resemblance.

What is a “takusatsu”?

@@Etticos. that was a typo, my bad

Read this as tonkotsu, please forgive me

Its not a tokusatsu, its western with old samurai tropes like the lone wolf and cub, yojimbo and basically every akira kurosawa samurai film.

Ryan Johnson seems like a filmmaker who like mystery and possibly horror, but somehow got to do Star Wars. JJ is just a fanboy who only made one good film that was an homage to horror movies and Tokusatsu, but got to do both Star Wars and Star Trek. I think both film makers failed to capture the essence of Star Wars being a Space Western/Samurai film first and a Sci-fi Fantasy Space Opera second.

"That's how we're gonna win. Not fighting what we hate. Saving what we love." -Rose Tico.

@@KRYMauL Agree with your take on JJ, strongly disagree with you saying Rian didn't capture the essence of Star Wars. Star Wars is silly, adventurous, full of movie clichés, a coming-of-age hero's journey, and makes relevant political/social statements. I can't imagine George Lucas not loving The Last Jedi tbh.

@@ZacLJones From what I heard George wasn't the biggest fan of the sequels because they went off to create their own story. Also, I think Star Wars is more a Space Western/Samurai that deals with different problems.

@@KRYMauL Yeah George did have plans for Luke to be exiled by himself and unwilling to get back into the fight, but his movies were mostly going to go deep into the specifics of how the force works, which TLJ touched on very briefly, and that's all we got. Definitely. George loves old cinema, Star Wars references: Western films, Samurai films, WWI/WWII films, heist films, old sci-fi serials for kids, etc.

Such a shame

+Jim #FACTS

I personally started watching old western serials because of The Mandolorian. Two major ones are Have Gun Will Travel and Wanted Dead or Alive. I didn't realize old western serials went into so many gray areas throughout their run.

@@jmrtnez Yeah Westerns are sometimes mischaracterized as morally simplistic. Shane (1953) is another good example of why even the older ones are not.

Unlike The Last Jedi, The Mandalorian was 2 seasons of 4+ hour content. Literally, everything in the Last Jedi is in The Mandalorian...having some more time to throw in a bit more sugar so you can swallow the same pill doesn't make it more genius. It's rather clear Disney proper still holds the ideals for the future of Star Wars present in The Last Jedi...they are just retooling what was presented in different ways because, it's very clear, the hangups weren't just about the plot...it was about identity, current politics, and the speed at which the change occurred. The reason The Last Jedi couldn't "reject its prior philosophies and move forward with something new." was entirely because of the pushback from fans who felt change was at its core a fallacy and not allowed in the franchise "Luke Skywalker isn't X". It definitely changed the formula and set the stage for something new...but it's 2 hours. Moving Star Wars from The Force Awakens...which was a statement of glorification of what existed in the OT...to saying we need to move on...can't happen in 1 movie when the series is this long. If Rian Johnson got a whole series, we'd be in the same situation, praising him. The only problem was that Disney wasn't willing to commit to their philosophy after TLJ, TLJ itself did a great job of presenting a critique and then presenting a new way to move the plot forward outside the constructs of previous entries.

@@magvad6472 What would you say TLJ's final message is after Luke returned to perpetuate the conflict between the Light and and Dark Side that he'd been trying to teach Rey was wrong then? I hadn't meant to imply that movie's failure was caused by TROS reversing direction. I believe that merely solidified it. Star Wars historically works in a structure of arcs or acts, giving each each idea equal time to be explored. In that way, it was kind of set up to fail by what came before as well. The idealistic whiplash between the glorification and deconstruction of the universe was incredible jarring. The Mandalorian does the inverse, starting with an Outer Rim left to rot by the actions of our heroes, and then dedicating equal time to building a more practical lifestyle from the ashes. I don't think it's the extra runtime that makes The Mandalorian shine, but how it makes strategic use of it to divide its messages into focused acts. It's difficult to look at The Last Jedi as its own product apart from the movies preceding and following it because everything Star Wars has always worked in a multi-act structure, so as fans we've been trained to think that way about its storytelling. Even in that light though, I struggle to see what the takeaway is, because everyone's actions seem to drive home the morals of the original trilogy, not the new ideas in The Last Jedi

@@ThreeProphets Well, not really. The point of the Last Jedi was to redefine what 'balance' truly meant in the force. It isn't the darkness destroying the light, and (unlike what all the movies that came before tell you) it isn't the light destroying the darkness. In their final standoff, Luke has gained this understanding and, as he looks at Kylo, he doesn't see an enemy or something to be destroyed; he sees his mirror image, his counterpart on the other side. With this understanding, he is able to win the battle not with a physical struggle but instead an ideological one and die in peace knowing that he has carried out his part. Because as much as Kylo wants to kill the past, he is unable to learn from it or understand it and so is cursed to relive it. I would say that Mando has done a very good job of putting these abstract concepts into practical characters and plots, but we need to recognize that it was really the Last Jedi that started this shift.

Yes and I think it is more than “kill the past” if anything It honors and pushes to something new

And I think you’re right that the show outright “kills the past” as the video interprets. There are still many great points but I think that the binary oppositions of past and future are in a more grey zone, like you said being that Din Djarin will take from both. Also it feels like Cara Dune is doing something similar by being a marshal for the new republic, accepting an imperfect but new system that still, in a way, reflects her past from the old rebellion than just being a mercenary.

Well one is made by industry favoured directors, to make money. And the other is made by Star Wars veteran directors, to make great art. It's not comical, it's just sad.

Not anymore. 😆

What is he referencing?

@@rafaelalodio5116 Gunsmoke is a tv western from back in the day

Me too

They casted an actor for Force Unleashed 1 & 2. Mo-cap is the most cost effective way of getting high quality acting translated to video game characters, you'd do this regardless of whether you plan to tie in any live action stuff. Besides they easily brought in Katee Sackhoff without any struggle then changed Ashoka's actress. Luke was the only real choice at this stage, someone like Cal would need to be explained and the story isn't about that, someone like Mace would be more recognized but need equal amounts of exposition. Luke is able to fit in without needing to be justified, so works where these other characters couldn't for the story it seems they are trying to tell.

I'm just here for Ahsoka...

I think Cal would be reserved for the rumored Luke Skywalker Series or Ashoka Series. If EA would let Respawn make Jedi Fallen Order 2-3 if he is still alive ofc then Cal would slowly be transitioned to the TV series. I think Cal (If alive) would be recruited by Luke to make a restore a newly reformed Jedi Order.

@@jonsmith5058 yeah definitely they do all the mop cap with the actors, jus sometimes they don’t do the fight choreography and he did

I second that

Tenet is dumb because I can’t hear shit and there is no emotional investment. It’s a great conceptual film

I'll be honest I thought Tenet was dumb

You catch references like that the same way you catch a cannonball. To the teeth.

P.S. its just weird to see them with their paid ads these days LOL still love you guys

waiting to see what you’re talking about

@@sucemaindex236 their socialists and thus want to take away people's second amendment rights.

It's not just one person doing the research and giving his insight. There is a production team of academics, writers, editors, producers, directors, and videographers working behind the scenes. More and more of RU-vid is becoming this. To Wisecrack's credit, it at least provides production credits. All channels should be required to do the same. Written by: Ross McIndoe Hosted by: Michael Burns Directed by: Michael Luxemburg Video Title Card by: Amanda Murphy Editing by: Mark Potts Produced by: Evan Yee

Would you stop with the Japanese stuff already? Star Wars mostly draws on Western sources, and I mean Western culture, not the genre. Flash Gordon, 2001, Metropolis, Dune, Westerns which weren't influenced by anything Japanese, The Dam Busters, and yes, the Valerian comics from France.

@@Nonamearisto Read "The Secret History of Star Wars" by Michael Kaminsky. Everything you mentioned, along with Kurosawa and more, influenced the original trilogy.

@@Maoilios12 I know. And the highly influential and morally questionable "Triumph of The Will."

@Aristocles What if, and bear with me here, Star Wars can be influenced by a number of sources be they samurai films of the 50s, action serials of the 40s, or propaganda films of the 30s It doesn’t lean on one particular reference it’s a cultural melting pot.

@@leer6871 Most of those things were from the West. America, the UK, Germany, France. A few references to samurai movies were there too, but it was almost all from Western European or American sources. This isn't something up for debate, it's a well-proven fact. Flash Gordon and Metropolis aren't Japanese, you know. Neither was The Dam Busters, The Searchers, or Silent Running.

Loved Cowboys and Aliens I'd like another movie just like it!

Yeah. I was surprised he put them with the classics

You natural care impulses were hijacked, not every Disney face deserve attention, today it's just tool of capitalism 😁

@@Feefa99 Nah man I serve the Soviet Union.

@@InfinitiSin So you're Russian hacker... BUSTED!! 😁

@@Feefa99 If only it was so easy to catch one hehe.

it ate fertilised eggs that had developing babies inside them. would you be saying the same thing if it ate a human foetus?

That'd be superfly!

Got tiny bits of that in TCW But that sounds great!

Tom Riddle No it still is, infact you basically just perfectly described it

The High Republic looks like completely garbage

@@NhBleker We've seen what, one comic and a book? Give it some time. Kennedy is on her way out soon, and I'm sure Lucasfilms will be a million times better without her pulling the company and the entire franchise down.