How The Minions Are Changing Animation 

NO never

It happens so often with people I understand at this point and plus genndy did do a lot of work on powerpuff girls just ya know never made it.

it’s worse than shark tale.

Yep

Yes, i liked the whole sixties thing with the music and the king bob

Crab boi is best girl

Their parents' money*

Cheapy The Cheapskate

Argargargargargarg

LOL

am i the only one that now wants to see this?

Nah, they didn't. He lived too long to actually have had them as minions.

The thought of Nazi minions blurting “Heil Hitler” is mildly amusing lol

He probably couldn’t take being around them anymore.

Maybe Hitler was a minion in this universe lol

this is some deep sh't.

Facts

I recently watched despicable 3 in netflix and I really loved it

@TurboTime yeah kinda

All of the Despicable Me movies (Including Minions) are awesome though...

Good.

What a twist!

Maybe that is the point - you are supposed to forget about the side characters, not turn them into the main heroes...

He did while talking about short gags that are meant to be just funny but shouldn't make a whole movie. You would have connected the dots if you had remembered it :p

I think thats just a script rewrite

bestmarty Genndy Tartakovsky for example. The Hotel Transylvania films are good.

Spiderverse took 4 years to make

They were made by different ppl.Spider-verse was made by Phil Lord and Chris Miller who are exactly what we need in animation rn,while I don't even give a sh*t about who made The Emoji Movie.

MatPat did a video about the Emoji movie. The whole thing was one long product placement.

@@logannottheonefrommarvel9917 and it paid off

I only saw the Minions in that film as comic reliefs, just like something out of a Disney movie. But once they're everywhere, even to the point of having their own movie (and an upcoming sequel apparently too), they got pretty overwhelming and annoying.

@@michaelstrong5383 Yeah, it's too much of a unique thing. I used to think they were cute, and now they're just...really annoying.

are minions the reason why we never see fan favorite characters again?

@@pedrosaabedra5653 Guess so. Though, to be fair, they never gave the middle sister anything to work with in all three Despicable Me movies anyway.

I honestly agree.

ohhhh them you have to say my grandma how she love the live action of beauty and beast...

Dumb fun isn't always bad imo. There are probably a lot more worse dumb films than those

@@revimfadli4666 "Dumb" and "dumb fun" aren't the same thing. Also, both are subjective so you're going to get different opinions.

She sounds like a boomer

Let me guess, your aunt is the type of woman who's sending cringe "wish you a happy monday" Facebook pictures with Smurfs and Minions on it, into your family group? 😂

IKR?

This video is kinda pointless, it could've been articulated better

@@florencialopez5119 this comment is poor it could have been articulated better

@@maisonfuller4382 :(((( I'm so sorry for giving a short statement, instead I should've made an essay on it

Aren't they making an animated ghostbusters movie? Well if so I hope it sticks to the same animation style as their very own Spiderverse and Mitchell's vs the Machines. I also hope that it tries pulling off a new story that actually tries being emotional without tugging at your heartstrings like the end of Afterlife. Disclaimer: I liked Afterlife's ending with that Tribute to Harold Ramis.

Same

So true, I’ll never forget Vector. Do people even remember him that much?

@@dclark6029 he was the best villian

@@vee1193 He sure was, too bad a lot of people don't remember him though. :/

Mr. Friendship amen

It looked like shit just like the popeye cartoons it wss based on

@@xxProjectJxx Are we filming a movie in Arizona? Because that was a hot take.

Popeyes had a chance but the problem was more that the original came out before generation nostalgia began. That’s why we see the lion king, transformers and even fuller house but not Popeye.

My disappointment was immeasurable and my day was ruined

The Popeye movie could have been a big thing if the FUCKERS AT SONY DIDN'T CANCEL IT FOR THE SHITY EMOJI FILM.

Especially because it is 2D, something that seems to be rare these days

That movie is amazing

I love that movie!

That was a fantastic movie

Love death robots is really good too

They truly are

Shame they only come out once in a blue moon and make no money, meaning they have a pretty niche audience

I have a bracelet I got from a Kids Meal (Burger King I think?) and it's Kubo's string bracelet from Kubo and The Two Strings. I love the movie, and I still wear the bracelet all the time.

@@megaascension2748 They put a Laika movie in a kids meal

@@superninja493 Yeah, Burger King had Kubo toys. I wouldn't have known unless I got a Kids Meal at Burger King for a snack.

Children's media is proving that a child's eyes belong in a book.

@@TheFakeyCakeMaker Wich... are part of media... and... still have a lot of trash just like the rest of media...

For real, my childhood was shaped by my favorite game and it's story. Persona 3 taught me how to appreciate art, all kinds. Writing, Paintings, Animation.

BACK IN MY DAY, we had some texture to our media. The media people remember, at least. Batman TAS and the rest of the DCAU were insightful and engaging stories that are accessible to children while being enjoyable to adults. We don't remember our Minions, but I'm sure there was one.

@@solar2696 My game was HoMM 4, because the stories got translated into my language with cool voice actours (really good quality imo) so as a kid I could understand them.. and Heroes 4 had a lot of cool campany stories and you could play with heroes only, build your char etc. and have a feeling of RPG.... In Heroes 4, there were a lot of long emotional texts that popped up during your gameplay, way more than in HoMM 3... and for young me, new graphic felt surreal and realistic, new animations etc. so I preffered IV grpahics over III... now, in modern times when I looked at 4's graphics I was like - wtf is this, I dont remember it that way, and HoMM 3 has cool timeless graphics but back then it was vice versa for me xD

Same!

Actually, I think that is a myth, but the point still stands. They cancelled what could have been a MAJOR hit and then made one of the worst animated films of all time! It's a travesty!

It was the Sony hack, stop spreading a myth

Banana Child popeye can still be made by any company he’s in the public domain.

I couldn't agree more

No

Perfect examples are "How To Train Your Dragon" or "Kung Fu Panda"

@@user-ir8er1bh4q then you have Madagascar

@@user-ir8er1bh4q Not really

What? Dreamworks movies are retarded compared to Pixars. Pixar movies have substance. Dreamworks are like “alright” movies

@Azure Disk Special mention here for Tron uprising, a phenomenal show that was given a terrible timeslot on a channel for an audience a little too young for it, and then disney canned it.

It got cancelled for the damn emoji movie. Never forget, never forgive.

@Azure Disk I forgot Tron Legacy exists. I need to rewatch it.

Alright. That profile pic is so OwO. It's just OwO. A perfect OwO/OwO.

Terry R. It didn’t, it’s just a coincidence of timing that led to many people making an assumed causation

"The celling is right Squidward. You're not very good employee." Patrick

This is why capitalism sucks tbh. If the profit motive works, why does Adam Sandler still have a career?

Scientist Walter without capitalism, you wouldn’t be making a RU-vid comment from your phone/laptop.

Tyler Johnson sure, maybe? An argument about governments and technical revolutions doesn’t really apply here though, since we’re discussing capitalism’s negative effects on the entertainment/film industry.

@@beefchillingham6790 Except the internet R&D was funded primarily by the State so yeah. That being said, that doesn't make it socialism but it does make it done by public funds.

Yup, minions only work as side characters, not main stars

Good animated movies were literally what inspired me to start animation and learn animation, in fact, as a kid i always wished to learn animation soo i cloud make my own short, my own movies and more

Consume product, then get excited for next product

@@SparkTFS then repeat

What about the LOONEY TUNES? Their stories had no continuity or morals. It was done for pure kiddie entertainment

@@JishinimaTidehoshi definitely false. The cinematic animated shorts of that era, above all Looney Tunes, were written for adult audiences. Kids didn't get the Robinson and Bogart gangster and film noir references, or the adult innuendo rife in old Looney Tunes, but they enjoyed the hijinks. There was something for everyone

Is that really true?

@Azure Disk To be fair, Kyoto animation is not the average in terms of animation even within their contemporaries (studios from Japan). They are on the cutting edge of both techniques and worker treatment. If we are to see the entirety of Japan's animation industry you can see it trending more towards Illumination, make as much with as little as fast as possible. I hate the 'animation is for kids' mentality too, but it does spawn from logic. Western animation tends to make most of it's money from merchandising which is marketed towards kids due to how effective it is. Minions makes bank on external products sold which snowballs into making money for the sequels. It's a system devoid of creativity, but it's safe and it works. Anime likewise is marketed towards Otaku whose money is the lifeblood of the industry (who else would pay for overpriced blue-ray box sets and figures?) and follows similar marketing schemes. Regardless of what the audience or the creators think animation is still a business, and that deal with the devil is a necessary evil to even produce anything at all. That said, there is certainly an imbalance and can't he healthy for the long term health of the craft.

@@konkonart7128 Generalizing is bad mate, Japan's animation industry does have a problem on how it treats it animators (not a unique phenomenon, many US studios or studios from other countries also have this problem) Kyoani while great isn't unique in that regard, also while there are many trash shows (taste is subjective) made to just to suck money out of otaku, this practice isn't the standard for the industry, yes the production companies (studios unless they are in the production committee, they only get the job on what to do)do want to make money (like any business) but it isn't the main focus of many series, their first priority is to tell a great story (adapt it most of the time) with good animation or music ect. ( you get the idea).

@Azure Disk kyoani paying their animators a livable wage is incredible, especially considering the hell that is being an animator in the anime industry. Shame what happened, really. I hope they recover from it.

@Azure Disk I'm no legal expert, but the money was donated for "the victims and their families", NOT for the company. I think that's less problematic.

The worst part is that there isn’t anything we can do about it.

@@Fortniteloverepic No, Mulan is more of an readaptation of the Mulan legend, it will have big changes to the animated movie, for example no Mushu, no Li Shang, not even Songs as far as I know. In the animated movie Mulan killed a bunch of people but the live-action movie will have even more violence and be more action based.

@@countgeekula3046 more likely no killing, extensive virtue signalling, and somewhere in the film a transsexual gets hugged by everybody.

@@SD-tj5dh i'm gonna bet on this guy. Disney's been milking the heck outta remakes & adding little 'woke' one-offs. Mulan's gonna be a disappointment. quite a shame really.

@@waluigiisthebest2802 If it refreshes, these movies are not doing so much money as some years ago

Cross promotion advertisements towards children is gross, yes. It doesn't just prey on the children, but also the parents who are intentionally forced into conflicts with their children in the hopes that they give in and buy.

I used to really like the blue's clues kraft Mac and cheese... I'm not 100 percent positive but I think it was shaped like the dog. Idk I really liked it personally lol

Marketing on food is actually Illegal in my country now :0 so children aren't more tempted to whine for unhealthy food etc

The reason companies still use this tactic is: it works, and it's worked for quite longer than most people realize. Example: I'm old enough to remember candy cigarettes. Small, sugar-packed rods of candy sold in packages almost identical to actual cigarette packaging. Fortunately, I didn't fall into the trap myself, but I grew up at a time when almost everyone smoked. Anyone who tries to deny the harmful effects of second-hand smoke will get more than an earful of pushback from me. Here endeth the rant.

What do Minions have to do with targeting children? More adults like them than kids do.

Last I heard, the minions movie was Gru telling the Minions a made up origin story so that he didn't have to say they're his creations.

@Peruvian Leftist Fella lost was always about the characters- not the mystery. If you didnt like the ending then you missed the point of the show entirely

Minions lore is crazy

@Peruvian Leftist Fella they were not dead the whole time in lost. The ending to lost was the same as the ending to titanic. You know how when rose died as an old lady she woke up on the titanic and was back there with everyone. That ending did not mean the titanic never crashed and it did not mean her whole life was a lie....it just simply ment in the afterlife she met back up with them. Lost is the same. The island was very important to them. So when they died (some of them many years after the the final scenes) they all meet up in the afterlife to move on together.

@@theendofit this one gets it!

We're heading there on the 20th dont forget to request off work.

My time traveling future self said shrek 5-20 are in area 51 and that shrek 8 and 12 are the best even better than 2.

behold the 20th when it will finally be free and released to the Public

Well there’s September 20

Who the frick told you

Rango is spectacular. It’s creative, off beat, story driven, and there’s even a snake with a glock 😩

I've never seen Rango but one day I will.

@@turkishundelightful5382 karl

Rango was an animated film right? I BARELY remember it. I remember the poster and maybe a water tower? That's about it.

Actually it was 3:45 AM

I always far preferred Megamind, but in a way I'm glad it wasn't as popular at its time. Who knows how ruined it could have become had it been franchised?

@@smoothglass8028 Not necessarily. There weren't any corn pops specifically designed to be marketable in Megamind, it had better drive with story and deep characters. And based on HTTYD's treatment so far, Dreamworks can give the franchise the respect it deserves even when given the opportunity to cheaply milk its popularity. They could have made Hidden World a marketing mess like Despicable Me's sequels and spinoffs, but instead they made it a good movie with heart and most notably a _conclusion to the trilogy,_ leaving the milking to go on with shows and specials that seem pretty separate from the movies' canon. Megamind could have received a similar fate and I certainly wouldn't object.

Smooth Glass Megamind had infinitely better material to work with (and no mutated corn dogs) so it's less likely that it would've suffered the same fate.

I feel Megamind was probably best left as a single movie. It was a good movie that didn't need a sequel. Not that it didn't deserve a sequel, it just didn't need a sequel. The story of the villain becoming the hero ended with a nice little bow.

Code - megamind was a hell of a fun movie.

Well said, I totally agree. The point I was trying to make earlier up is that both types of animation have a place, we don't need to sacrfice one for the other. Thanks for putting it so eloquently and basically giving me the words I was missing.

My dad who isn't into animated movies that much loves wall-E saying its quite a unique movie.

My favorite movie as a kid. I ended up rewatching it yesterday. Such a rare treat.

Yea, nowdays there's one masterpiece for every 50 shit movies

silvia romano yep

There will always be eight-year olds. More importantly, there will always be adults desperate to keep kids occupied for more than an hour.

Yes minions need to die already.

Same!

Both suck

>Makes photorealistic lions >Doesn't give them balls

Lion king has horrible reviews tho..

@@DubmoOfficial That didn't stop it from becoming the number one highest grossing animated film of all time.

@@michaelstrong5383 those poor movie goers... press f to pay respects

According to the U.S., animation is either strictly for adults or strictly for children.

HP Copycat I’m part of the u.s and I didn’t say that

Spencer Boyce I’m American too, I’m just pointing out that it’s mostly U.S. audiences who endorse the stereotype

HP Copycat k

@JayLeeBeanz uhh have you ever watched as told by ginger? King of the hill? Proud family? etc. There are plenty of good slice of life western cartoons. Not because you've only watched shitty western cartoons means they're all shit. Plenty of animes are also shit lol but people don't judge the whole medium for that.

The first Ice Age was great but there are just to many of them now which is diluting the brand so to speak.

@@frostythechimneysweep1171 Too much of everything is bad. That's why I don't watch Marvel movies anymore.**yawn**

Ice age 2 is also amazing

Personally, I find the first _Ice Age_ fantastic, the second one good, the third one "meh", the fourth one pretty bad but enjoyably so, and the fifth... *OH MY GOD, IT'S SO DEVOID OF CHARACTER, IT'S ACTUALLY THE FIRST TIME I WALKED OUT OF THE CINEMA FEELING EMPTY, IT'S THAT BAD.*

The 1st Ice Age is a childhood favorite. I find it weird that they made the animals more anthropomorphic every movie mean while humans supposively coexist with them.

😐 *coughs in awkward silence of no laughter*

Eh, if they get people to hate the minions, then it's a sacrifice I accept

BUSTER it was pretty funny

@@muhammadpolat2075 Nah, not really

@@muhammadpolat2075 no one finds these comments funny

We always hated characters that serve as nothing other than being "haha funny comic relifes". Probably the only characters that fit in this category that i Like, are scrat (ice Age), and mort (Madagascar). Every other comic relif character that basically just is nothing but filler, frick off

@@deadchanel1298 They can be well written while one dimensional it's just it must be written where they annoy only the other characters and not the audience because that is the real comedy from them.

Thomas _ TK me too

Minions serving Osama Bin Laden

​@@kieranschafer5180 Minions planning and executing 9/11

. . . yeah, I'd watch that

DawnPraiser how do I fine that

I care about Gru a lot. He’s my favourite character, in fact. Vector is the best villain, too.

Eh

Altrought i Like all 3 movies, i hate how the minions basically steal the spotlight from the other characters. I wish they remained what they were in the first movie, cheap comic relifes that basically only appeared in some Second long scenes, that just serve as filler. And thats a lot, since i hated the minions since they were introduced in the franchise as whole

Same here. When I was a kid and watched this movie, I didn't care that much about Minions. They were cute and funny, that's all I felt for them. I was actually interested in the main plot more.

And Dr Nefario

what movies do you have on said list?

your list better have kfp1-3 in it

YES

Tbh the entire movie should’ve just been about Scarlet

Yess I loved Scarlet

That’s the only reason I decided to watch the movie lol! But now I’m sad I wasted my money 😂

@@kaylahebbon3524 you could have pirated or waited till Netflix put it out

Because like Walt Disney himself said, "I make money to make movies." Or Michael Scott: "You have to play to win, but you have to win to play."

I understood the first one, but the second one was lost in translation to me.

@@seekertosecrets it's business advice from branch manager to temp attending business school in The Office - you have to be out there in order to succeed, but you also have to succeed in order to be out there.

@@beardupbeerdown7355 The second quote seems to imply that any industry is a closed loop that is impossible to break into. A catch 22, realistic yet also pessimistic.

Can we get a small sample/summary of the project?

he basically stole from the ralph the movie maker video and made it less funny

camarenscontent video?

@@XeonGame what

No we could've had a popeyes movie but they got rid of it for the emoji movie

Its actually coming back with a new studio

They cancelled Popeye for the emoji movie.

I think now it's a perfect time to say that... reality is often horribly disappointing...

I read that with Mio's voice thanks to your avatar and it fits so much.

I absolutely agree with you. After the first movie, it loses its charm.

Especially the third one.. I just didn't liked it as a kid at all..

i agree! it originally felt like a nice movie but they just kept milking the original idea

@@livispuzzled they actually did the opposite of milking the original idea. They threw away almost every aspect of the first film, like the good jokes (jokes like gru freezing the row of people to get the coffee, him raising his car together with someone else, and eventually smashing him, that was a funny joke) the good chemistry between characters, the emotional moments, the good villain (we stan Victor) and the surprisingly good music, and removed it for shit

The first despicable me was definitely good and more fun than most Pixar or DreamWorks films at that time. But afterwards it really began to suck, and the Minions film was the absolute low point.

If i were to make a movie, there would not be ANY annoying fart jokes, i just would care if the people were entertained, amazing talented and creative people could make a movie for FUN, not for the MONEY.

Tell that to my 57 year old minion-obsessed aunt

I don't think that being made for kids is an excuse for making terrible movies honestly kids are usually way smarter than people give them credit for and tend to like good quality movies more than trash that's made only for money

@Shr1mpSush1, are we going to pretend that Pixar movies like Inside Out and Coco, Kung Fu Panda movies, movies like Zootopia, Klaus on Netflix, etc, don't exist as good modern kids movies??

The only solution there is, is to create a separate side of animation, called animation for people of ages 12+. The age rating will always have to be specified, because as long as the media thinks children = dumb, there wont be a fair chance of creating more deep and thought provoking animated movies without corporations ruining them.

Delta Jim woaa I never read this book and this clarifies so much! Thanks for the info!

I read Stuart Little, as a kid. That reference of him being a mouse, jumped out to me as well. He wasn't a mouse in the book.

I read the book and he was a mouse. Remember the chapter where his parents put him down a sink to unclog it. There were even illustrations of him being a moise

Source/quote/exerpt?

Stuart little committed war crimes in Syria and is a fucking piece of shit god I want to strangle that fucking filthy rat

reminds me of hoyt's speech in fc3

the same way the super animals in Super Animal Royale dont have a specific language.

Yep, it’s about monetary marketability

No wonder they don't speak anymore, like some used to

Wait theres going to be a mario movie ........... ( hoping and praying that it does not turn out like any of the 90s cartoons)

Actually, Nintendo stated that they are going to make sure that the movie is made the way they want it to be. After all, it's Nintendo, so of course they're going to protect their most popular franchise.

@@Serpenfishil The same company that is milking all their games? (Like most of game developers tbh)

@@alternaterealitygamejerk7311 at least they put care into their franchises, a good example would be the Zelda series. Whenever they release a new game in their series, they at least put some new features, ideas, and other things into that game.

@@Serpenfishil Good point

The original Despicable Me would have been a good stand-alone movie. It would have been far better without the minions, but it still had value. I do believe that Megamind was probably better, but I feel like it's wrong to suggest that Despicable me was entirely undeserving of it's victory. Nonetheless, the Despicable Me Franchise, and the minions. are crimes against animation.

Both of them are great films

Megamind was a masterpiece for sure

PeePeePooPoo needs an animated movie

Let me break your bubble there. It is tons of fun but is definitely not the greatest animated movie ever. Even amongst DreamWorks, that competition is between Shrek 1 & 2, Kung Fu Panda Trilogy and HRTYD trilogy

Sure but: It's not okay to exploit the naivete of children by presenting them media that doesn't care about them or their development beyond the ability to profit from them.

@@nicolaim4275 You mean like the 80s, when animation was only made to sell toys? Or when critics in 1979 criticised movies for being nothing but remakes, sequels and blockbusters? The more things change, the more they stay the same. Also, if you don’t want kids growing up with movies that don’t fit your standards of children’s media, than you can just decide not to show them to kids, as well as not watch them at all. Crisis averted. Or, if you want more specific examples, there was an IMDB review for Pocahontas back in the 90s that stated that “all Disney movies nowadays are exactly the same!”

@@unicornbunny5439 Yes, they are a good example. It wasn't okay then and it isn't okay now.

@@nicolaim4275 Then like I said, you don’t have to keep supporting movies you don’t like. It’s much better to bring attention to movies that you really *do* like, and want to see succeed.

@@unicornbunny5439 The existence of exploitative children's media has nothing to do with me personally, apart from hypothetically making it a hassle to find something of quality. I'm talking about negative social impacts and child development from media influence while I'm guessing you're talking about the individual experience. An extreme example of what I'm talking about would be the strange RU-vid videos for toddlers that were everywhere a few years ago, but even high cost animations can suffer if no thought is put into the story.

They weren't great to begin with but I didn't mind them till they got shoved down all of our throats

thats the problem with creating a character totally devoid of context or meaning- you can slap any old shit on top of it and it will appeal. Minions are the modern day equivalent to what Garfield was in the 80s. That shit was everywhere and no one read the garfield comics- they just liked the grumpy funny cat that they could pair a lame phrase with. Today's facebook mom meme was yesterday's bumper sticker and suction cup figure on the rear window.

@@rebeccagibbs4128 Garfield is a cat who says funny things

@@jasoninkurai5463 if you know the story about garfield's origin and eventual success the cartoonist designed him to be as commercial and inoffensive as possible after his more edgy and creative cartoons were not successful. As i said, in the 80s when i was growing up garfield was massive- everyone had a coffee mug, or a toy, or a bumper sticker, or the suction cup cats on the windshields, on t-shirts- pre internet garfield was viral levels successful because everyone could relate to a simply character. It wasnt due to his comic comedic chops by any stretch.

@@rebeccagibbs4128 I was just referencing Lasagna Cat, the web series about Garfield

Parents control the money spent for the kids, after all. And also spread the word-of-mouth to other parents

I don't see how those bullshit films can be anyhow interesting for adults. Unless retarded ones.

How To Train Your Dragon 3, which came out this year, was about love, loss (including a widowed man talking about his wife and the beauty of love even though it hurts), sacrifice and responsibility. The human characters are young 20-somethings reconciling themselves to the idea of marriage, amidst pressure from their people. The protagonists down their lives for each other. Some of the joke sequences are unnecessary and childish, but the meat of the film would appeal more to adults. The ending is definitely bittersweet. Dreamworks did a great job. The Kung Fu Panda trilogy, while sillier, also has strong themes. Dreamworks still make movies like Boss Baby and Trolls (probably in part to earn money to tackle bigger projects) but overall they make really beautiful movies. HTTYD and Kung Fu Panda are stunning, with genuinely compelling characters, utterly breathtaking visuals (HTTYD2 was nearly photorealistic in animation quality and used their new animation capacities to make some incredible and genuinely creative sequences) and really, really, really good music. If they keep it up, I’d say Dreamworks is doing a great job.

No. The target audience is PG13. It’s as difficult to get an adult movie made as a good kids movie. Remember the kerffuful about Logan and Deadpool ? They actually rereleased Deadpool as a P13 cut. The studios want kids and teenagers and young adults and nostalgic adults all to see the same movie. The Lion King for example.

The Wii I failed for this reason.

Brilliant!

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BANANA!!!!!

Minions is an interesting retrospective on society and consumerism at its finest. minions being representative of society & the villains they worked for are our short term euphoria of owning new products. the main villains strikes me as an effective character believed to provide the happiness we as humans seek. the backstab proves the real hurdle of overcoming our own endless search for happiness within excessive consumption. the lack of awareness of many gullible viewers of the real art behind minions is baffling.

Azmor EM so true...Now they go by “Bernie Bros”...good insight..

The Marvel Dork I dunno - it’s sort of like that thing with art where people say, “My kid could do this.” Yeah - but could they make millions off it? Some people just have a talent for appealing to the mainstream - for being popular - and whatever it is, it isn’t like just anyone can do it, because ironically, the vast majority of people who work so much harder die in obscurity. And for that matter, even most people with run of the mill mediocre ideas don’t make it either. So respect where respect is due - being mediocre kind of takes talent.

But acknowledging the demographic of your selected medium is a part of it's artistry.

@@firezdog Lessons learned: must be mediocre and lazy. Got em

@@robbiewarhol672 Yes, but who's the demographic here? This kind of film turns entertainment into money, the audience into actors, and the bank into the audience. "Actors put entertainment into the audience" is now the same as "audience put money into the bank", and when your target demographic is the bank that's all the producers care about. It's not storytelling, it's a transaction.

@@jameswalker199 bars

Azure Disk the Film Industry will easily live on, but Hollywood will, and must die.

Some how I agreed with you about that.

The marketing for that movie was pretty annoying. They started showing trailers for it almost a year before it came out, every time I went to watch a movie I had to sit through that same trailer (always the same trailer). By the time it came out, I was already sick of it. I'm sure it was a fun movie, but their marketing department failed them.

I wanted to go to the cinema to watch it, but I was to late. At least at my cinema every Laika film after Coraline was shown for just a week or two. I was realy unlucky with the date they came out in my country and missed all of them because of moving, starting university, writing my bachelor... And when I have time to the cinema there is only the 7th week of the lion king remake, a crapy and much too late LEGO film ripoff, Pets and Angry Birds two and some cheep and horrible looking children book adaptions.

Laika has the opposite problem that illumation has,where illumation makes millions through mediocre movies,laika makes little money through amazing movies

To be fair Missing Link wasn't their best film. I still loved the attention to detail they put into the animation but I didn't find the characters or the story particularly appealing, especially in comparison to their other films. I would still much rather watch Missing Link again rather than be forced to sit through the Minions Movie again. I could say the same for a lot of the more lackluster films from good studios.

While I admired the animation and Visual side of the Missing Link, the movie itself just wasn’t good. The characters were unlikeable, the story bland and predictable, and the humor aimed at five year olds. I felt so disappointed after sitting through it. It’s a shame all that work and beautiful animation didn’t go to a better film. Despicable Me, despite the minions was a pretty pleasant film and the minions themselves, though dumb, can get a laugh out of adults, while Missing Link was just awkward. And I’m an animation obsessed illustration student; I walked into that cinema prepared to love the movie

I can see where you're coming from but do we really know if they made that decision to avoid backlash from racists? Think about Zootopia, which actually used the predator/prey motif to illustrate racism. All animals in that movie as well that live different lifestyles and stuff like that. While animation is not a medium limited to children, movies like these were made with them in mind to make topics like the ones explored in Sing and Zootopia easier to understand. I dont see the decision to make the characters animals as a "cop out" in this case (and I'm not saying it hasn't happened before because it has) but it's main use is to help illustrate a theme or teach a lesson. At least, that's how studios used to work when I was growing up

Minion-ese is a blend of several languages.

I dislike minions as much as the next guy but that statement is false and misleading

@@moocats I'm exaggerating but I'm not wrong

Robert MacArthur I thought it was a mix of English and Spanish gibberish.

no its just gibberish

That's why cartoons were invented, because of legal restrictions limiting how much TV commercials were allowed to advertise to kids...

When Missing Link was an surprisingly gigantic bomb, it did make us pretty sad because while it is an average kids’ flick because of its kiddie tone, it is a good one because its animation is adventurously professional! But when Paranorman bombed at the box office while other 2010s animation with much more CGI (Illumination Entertainment films are obvious examples, but we could also use DreamWorks Animation’s recent films like Home, Trolls and The Boss Baby as examples) did much better at the box office, it was enraging because while Missing Link is decent, Paranorman is almost as atmospherically scary and inventively Stop-motion animated as Coraline and Kubo! Speaking of the latter... When Kubo and the Two Strings bombed and never risen at the box office, I seriously gave up on humanity because the complaints people have towards this film (LOOKING AT YOU, YMS!! COCO ALSO DESERVED BETTER!!) about its characters being weak, its writing being cliched and its animation being underwhelming despite all that effort with the origami papers and atmosphere in the ancient Japanese settings LAIKA put into them. Surely, it has a strong following that understands the brilliance of Kubo and the Two Strings as one of the many first-rate stop-motion films, but even with that, it can’t stop me from putting it on my list of “Most Underrated Animations” if I made it.

[cries in studio ghibli]

I LOVE paranorman and the likes. LAIKA is great, coralline was stunningly haunting, paranorman was depressingly charming, and the boxtrolls was adorably awesome

@Chim Jim The "risk" was in making Missing Link at all. Marketing remains an entirely nebulous prospect. How does anyone get the word out to everyone without saturating every single platform known to man, which is known to upset anyone trying to avoid marketing in the first place? Usually, when people see marketing, they decide right then and there to see the product or not, no matter how many times it's perpetuated. That's not a risk, that just a dumb strategy. Moviegoer: I cut the cable and only watch streaming services. also Moviegoer: When did this come out in theaters? I WUZ NEHVUR TOLD! TAYK MOHR RIXXXX!

Rabbid Ray oh yeah....

Except since the rabbids come from video games, they can be in a product of quality.

Jaxon Carter 2: electric bogaloo yup,I know the Rabbids came from a game franchise, but still-

The rabbids are more interesting then the minions as well and dare I say it have a way better character design

160tried&true exactly- Long live the Rabbids! 🐰

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@@robbiewarhol672 When I watched the film it felt like things were just happened without any reason, but I couldn't figure out why. Now I know it's because Illumination films are written around comedy setpieces, with the story being a secondary concern

That movie was a waste of time for me. I feel practically nothing about it except that one dog vaguely resembles a pet we once had... which is probably the marketing intention

101ToonLink middle aged white women like my aunts, not my mother thankfully

Oh yeah....🤢

I've saw a few memes, and a lot of them make no sense.

my mum does not like minion memes dumb fuck

@@thatsicy good mum 👍

Agreed. I love the 3 dm movies, but minions just isnt my Cup of tea. Its too childish, and 99% of it its just pure filler

That's okay. My wife FELL ASLEEP during the Robin Williams film Insomnia. INSOMNIA!

Or pretty much all of Marvel

@@kaistzar2831 We get it, you don't understand abstraction. That doesn't mean the creators didn't have an intent behind their ideas.

Just change low budget to high budget and you get marvel films

I want to know Godard's and Tarkovsky's opinions of Minions.

@@kaistzar2831 Stanley Kubrick wants a word with you...

Ever hear of the tragic failure of Disney's Treasure Planet? It was the dream of the directors, but 2D animation was trending out so the movie was purposely sabotaged by placing the release window during the release of mega hits while also creating next to no advertising for it. The all mighty corporate studio executives are the devil and constant companions of creatives.

Arc System works is the prime example on how to make a 3d game look as stylized as a 2d game. Just look at the latest Guilty Gear.

Companies are all about the money, not their original intent of pooling resources and working together to offer a better product. The idea of forming a team... they gave up all the positives and care only about money now.

Lest we forget the fact that Mega Man was literally the only Capcom series that got Archie Comics spinoffs, speaking of Capcom...

*seamlessly *its visual aesthetics (possessive) it's = contraction of "it is/has"

Did he truly say this?

Wait whattttt?

CarlSagen. It was a “Social Experiment“, the only reason people believed it was because Mr Beast retweeted one of the tweets.

Yeah. I just did research. And yeah it's a hoax.

Some Dude what are you talking about? dreamworks and universal are working on it. People got tricked into thinking it's coming out this year but that's just them being gullible and not understanding how these films work but the cast and people from Dreamworks have said it's being made

It's all ogre now

Well this video came out 2 years ago so the animation medium was definitely different compared to now

@@PeruvianPotato Well yeah and proves my point further. You can't predic what will happen in the future

It's exactly the opposite. If a low-quality, non-creative animated movie earns this much, it will lead to further mediocre animation. It's exactly what Nerdstalgic was talking about and what he feared.

I'd say Despicable Forces was pretty good at least

But otherwise i agree

I agree, the first two films were funny and charming and had something to say. Afterwards it all went downhill though.

Same, the first twoi were amazing. Both heartwarming and fun. Now its minion fest

Yay! Cheap humor!