How the Music Spoils Sweeney Todd (and why that's a good thing!) 

Hhaha he did tha

I just finished watching Sweeney Todd. It was ANNOYING.

@@notyou8716, [Everybody Disliked That.]

That's musical theatre in a nutshell. Les Miserables is like 5 different melodies repurposed in different parts. The Bishops song is Empty Chairs, Valjean's Soliloquy and Javerts Suicide are the exact same musically, and so on.

Honestly it’s just making you feel dumb because he’s a doing a simple thing. Sort of a repetitive loophole he found. And then he applies it to the entire musical.

this deserves more likes

Haha I ruined your 69 likes, that's how good your comment was XD

@@arrowvampire1239 the judge.... "always".

@@gracerutherford4666 I understood that reference!

@@Omenweaver Harry potterrrr :D

sweeney also sings "we all deserve to die, even you, mrs. lovett, even i" so yah it's not exactly subtle

Sweeney himself also pops out of the shallow grave and sings “What happened, then? Well that’s the play and he wouldn’t want us to give it away.”

Nobody listens for Songs, in case of Lyrics, if you are musician

@@AlinaAniretake Huh?

Yes.

PERFECT ANALOGY

4:37 timestamp for people who don't wanna take the time to find it

@@ravenkills thanks legend

I don’t know what you’re talking about, everybody’s pet is a homicidal maniac

Same

Obviously, why wouldn't it be there? *Me, also not having any musical education*

Go to choir class 😔🖐🏽 you’ll know after a year and will randomly hear the words and it’ll scare the shit out of ya

me, who's only knowledge about music comes from sideways: THE DIES IRAE OF COURSE THAT'S GENIUS

@@just-trying-my-best-everyday mu9

I love your prof. pic

I want that to be a musical

I would upvote, but it's at 666

Yeah Beetlejuice pretty much

@Lord Starfield wtf? 😂

LMTO YES

That's honestly also a really good depiction of what having OCD is like

Me, listening to the music of various random ads throughout the video: "Hmm. Yes, I think I can hear the Dies Irae." 🤔

I love that quote so much lol

I feel bad I never noticed it having majored. Just didn’t realize how often I’ve heard it lol.

The Plinkett videos are garbage

Sev that’s 40 shots

@@mikulover9452 enough to kill a man

@@Sputnik1 A weak man

How about taking a shot every time it's PLAYED. I don''t think there is enough alcohol in the world.

**dies** **irae**

Bro you had like 2000 years to read that, not his fault.

😂

@@JasonWise i'm a slow reader. Sue me

@@coolbeans5911 ok what should I sue you for

Sam and Colby???

The only problem with the quote is, there’s no contemporary proof “Jesus” existed.

Looks like somebody hasn’t checked out the Roman tax records.

@@gracenurse3365 More and more historians are coming out saying Jesus did indeed existed. Just that he wasn't the Son of God like Christians claimed; an ordinary man no different than you and I. Depends on who you want to believe. I mean, there's no definitive proof that Leo Di Vici was a gay man in a romantic relationship with Salais (butchered spelling). But everyone seems to be inclined to believe it. Again, depends on who you want to believe.

@@gracenurse3365 When you reach that far back into history, the expected threshold for proof is small - by necessity. We know about as well as we can know that about two thousand years ago there was a man named Jesus, because there are at least two separate sources that mention a man named Jesus. Was he capable of miracles? Well there's only the one source so it's not very likely. This doesn't just go for Biblical figures, either; there are whole ass monarchs who's only proof of existence is other people talking shit about them

​​@@gracenurse3365no there's reason to believe he was an actual person but it's hard to track due to so much history being destroyed. By many people he was just seen as a prophet. The Romans likely didn't realize he was even significant until people got super mad about his death

Uhm look up “Cry Baby” (1990) he was dubbed over with James Intveld voice but that was after he sang it himself. So I kind of think it counts; even if it doesn’t.

@@sarahsmith9117 Wow, so it doesn't count and isn't relevant.

@@sarahsmith9117 Uhhm.. you literally just said it was dubbed by someone else..?

@@LordVader1094 His first time singing in a movie was in the last 45 seconds of Pirates of the Caribbean. Anyway, Sweeney Todd was autotuned to death, so does it really matter?

@@user-gp7wy1ud2q His first time singing in a movie was in the last 45 seconds of Pirates of the Caribbean. Anyway, Sweeney Todd was autotuned to death, so does it really matter?

God this comment is underated

Lasvina 36 yes it is

Sounds like a fun game

Damn, that got me laughing.

LOL

Boooooo

@@ninab.4540 i didn’t think to listen to the one second of violins playing in the background. silly me

Sweeney Todd is about as subtle as a hammer with its narrative, and that is not at all a bad thing

you know how i determined Joanna was Sweeney's daughter? mrs. lovett says the judge took her as a ward

@@bumblegadget_ excellent point

Sparknotes for anyone too lazy to watch the video

Yeah nah, I think the phrase "spoils" has become too common these days. The music doesn't *spoil* it, it *foreshadows* it. The same way that Romeo and Juliet opens by telling you that the star-crossed lovers are destined to die, Sweeney Todd musically tells you how this man desires to be an avenging angel, and is twisted to becoming another devil in the hell that is London.

@@JacklynBurn i doubt he means "spoils" as "ruins it", but more as "gives it away" or "foreshadows" it as you said

Wow thanks Darth Smaul Sith Lord

So I was not the only one

Lmto...

I hope you have watched it since your latest comment. trust me, i'm not for thrillers and gore, but this movie is fabulous (in spite of all the gore). best role for Johnny by far (even surpasses Jack Sparrow) as for Helena she's way more scarier than Bellatrix. Btw, if you like Harry Potter, this movie is a must see (i watched it to see Snape) but Wormtail is also there. And! Anthony, the sailor is the young Grindelwald. it's literally much closer to the canon than the Cursed Child will ever be. As for the music... it's painful to the ears, unpleasant, weird at first..... but after a second, third viewing I got obsessed with it. Gorgeously written by a mad genius!

Well, I have seen Sweeney Todd several times, stage and movie version, and I still thought I saw a sardine too!

I’ve watched the movie so many times but I still thought it was a sardine too 🤣

cznsfjgsjgej plss

Not Christian Death!!! Lmao

Anthony's Distress

@@sylph8005 alternative title for the musical lol

sideways or sweeney? lol

Today I learned that the closest I'll get to one of my favorite storytellers is my low iron levels 😆 but I love your comment!

that is the best description of Tim Burton's style ever

As a black-haired pasty anemic, I have never been so offended by something I 100% agree with. (Jk I love Burton's style and he's one of my favorite directors 😄)

BROOO I want to join those family talks!! Sounds much better then mine

Yep. Beetlejuice would have been my first choice😂

Yes! I was looking for this comment. It's one of the most recognized intro theme to a movie. I was surprised he didn't include it in the compilation.

Me too like I heard that theme and all I could do was just lay there with my jaw in hell 😭

It's also the entire "The Twilight Zone" theme and the Jaws theme uses it, too.

*visible sweating* must... leitmotif...

Retrograde(backwards), inversion(upside-down), and retrograde-inversion are basic devices in counterpoint, so it's something a musician would know to look out for.

you don't, but your brain does

U turn the music upsidedown

rhythmically there is a similarity, and overall the relation between the pitches is similar even if it's upside down, so you will not consciously analyze it but it will vaguely remind you-leitmotifs aren't primarily supposed to be consciously detected

Sorcery .... obviously.

There are by my count THREE *different* songs in Sweeney titled 'Johanna'. The one Anthony sings. The one Judge Turpin sings which is cut from many (most?) productions of the show but really should be left in; and the one Sweeney sings when he is reminiscing lyrically while killing off his clientele. ...But I'm guessing you probably must mean Anthony's song.

@@StoryMing idk fam all i know is the first two lines ppl publicly serenade me with out of nowhere

@@StoryMing i would hope ppl dont come up to them and go YOU MOCK ME JOANNA YOU TEMPT ME WITH YOUR INNOCENCE

@@thaliapeters949 Those aren’t the first two lines... (though I would hope so too!)

I feeeeel yoooou Johaaaaanaaaaa..........

Woah you're a genius

Every song is *DeAtH*

Oop

I’d like this funny comment but it’s at 666 and I’m not a monster

@@queenjohnbee3411 Dude thank you I have achieved official comedy

It's like how we, as a culture, only know the opening phase to the Toccata and Fugue in D Minor, despite being quite an extensive organ piece indeed. The majority of the piece is a lot more peppy sounding than the Gothic imagery we've culturally associated with that iconic opening phrase might suggest.

@@moviemaestro800 wow

@@moviemaestro800 I looked it up, and indeed, the piece sounded way less Gothic than pop culture makes the opening to be. Thanks, I learned something new today.

Stephen Sondheim: *hastily writes this tip down for Sweeney Todd and Into The Woods*

You should see The Batman (2022). They really took it to heart.

I'm thinking maybe that's intentional... It's like how sometimes parents try to make their upset children laugh by doing something goofy or doing a silly face to distract them from the chaos in their head. So maybe Mrs Lovett is trying to be the mother figure or the family member who wants to divert Sweeney from doing the things that are going on in his mind... Since the scene continues normally, you can see that the silly face thing doesn't get through to Sweeney.

ITS INFECTING THE TAP WATER AND TURNING THE FRICKIN FROGS DEAD

its in the freaking pies too!!

This could be merch honestly

thatgissel I just hAtE it when my ancient melodies get stuck in the plumbing smh

Unus Annus...Unus Annus...UNUS ANNUS.

I love Johnny

he actually got that dream too! back in 2015 Alice Cooper revived the name of his old band from the seventies, The Hollywood Vampires, and Johnny is a guitarist and vocalist in the new Hollywood Vampires!

@@micahmayer9487 ayyy I’m glad for him!

Johnny did great in this movie 😁😇🙃🙃

@@micahmayer9487 and also, in January he uploaded a video of him doing a cover to his Instagram so he still is making music

No one would have clicked hearing foreshadowing

@@editating_2614 Fair. But still...

That’s a very good point. After all “Dias Irae” translates to day of wrath not day of death. He’s not necessarily thirsting for death, he’s thirsting for vengeance. And salvation from that thirsting. Granted that involves killing but it’s incidental. It happens because of the need for the warped and twisted desire for justice.

Me, never has seen Sweeney Todd: oh yes the vengeance

I agree with that... buut 13:38?

@@mariahhenderson1470 "Attend the tale of Sweeney Todd. He served a dark and a vengeful god" that is how Sweeney introduces himself. It's great! You should watch it, it's very good.

@@redpandaluver8561 maybe I should

Maybe it just means that Sweeney is a hipster who's REALLY into underground music

@@vollmond9342 SAVAGE

Woah-

See I always took it to mean that all the musical numbers are happening in Sweeney's head but I like your interpretation better lol

Dies irae means Day of Vengeance though

It's my absolute least favorite haha. By far.

He needs a hug. I'd welcome him in with hot tea and cookies.

Don't threaten me with a good time 😏

@@Artleycoul I'd definitely do the same

@@WolfanTerror We stan the man

Good I could use an autograph XD

you’re so cool

You’re way cooler than I’ll ever be.. Hence your RU-vid name😂

//dies of extreme coolness exposure//

is it the wind.. or foreshadowing??

Pfffft! You didn't even leave the room on a skateboard. **puts on **_two_** sunglasses** **flips the table you flipped** **leaves the room on a skateboard** **finger guns**

Who got the ending of Frozen 2 spoiled for them by the Dies Irae thanks to Sideways?

Gürschach X David W Collins (from The Soundtrack Show): Did somebody say Dies Irae!?

Beetlejuice the musical? Lmao

DEAAAAAAAAAAATH.

@@alizeica519 What are you laughing about? That's a thing.

Same thing with Bells of Notre Dame in the Hunchback of Notre Dame, now that I think about it.

*Holding sardine "At last! My arm is complete again. >:D"

Sweeney Todd, AKA jack sparrow brutally murdering the cast of Harry Potter

And Wormtail.

And Jace

Young Grindelwald, old Grindelwald, wormtail, Belatrix, and Snape

And Grindelwald x2

Sure

This is a strange conversation I've stumbled upon...😂

@Ugh it's izzy i think it's just to match the theme of the video.

@@cruella4341 Imagine having so much of an ego that you don't believe someone else just because it's the internet and you want to be *that* person

@@cruella4341 answer the damn question

steadfast snail Idina Menzel as Sweeney Todd CONFIRMED

steadfast snail 😂😂😂😂

Johnny Depp is Idina Menzel confirmed

Melody Fussell You should know, this reply made me absolutely LOSE IT last night when I was really tired. Funniest thing I'd ever read.

@@dontask9728 omg what if I drew that

NipNip Supreme I think it’s a re-upload

Joseph Bugarin i assume they were sarcastic

Totally, i saw it in my subscriptions and i was all that seems familiar

like, higher on the street, and, like I know it's my time to go

@@misadate8688 "yeahhhhhh!" *eurobeat music*

then you start hearing the dies irae

That’s a death wish

I mean this channel gets a ton wrong so don't sweat it.

I like it, too. I thought he was disgusted/snarky about London, and it was in stark contrast with sunny Anthony 😂

I loved that line

@@lucymcnamara4558 I think the accent is a bit awkward...

He sounded like David Bowie to me lol

ohhh this is a great analysis

Biologically speaking arterial blood is pretty bright red due to the fact it is highly oxygenated and is at very high pressure so absolutely would spray out like that. Blood only starts to look brownish red when it dries.

I’ve also heard analysis that its a reference to Hammer horror films that also used over the top, bright red blood again a dark background. It’s supposed to melodramatic and over the top so it also works as a stylistic homage!

Also, whereas most people gush blood, Sweeney and Lucy merely have the blood run down their neck, for they're functionally dead already

“The Blood is the life!” - Count Dracula

**looks at toilet** **dies irae starts playing** **panic**

There's an Elvis joke here, but I can't think of anything

@@mr.misfit9514 me, who doesn't even listen to Elvis: omg I totally agree, what is it? 👀👀👀

@@actuallyverysoggy the king of rock, one of the biggest music sensations ever, inspired johnny bravo, and died on the toilet after overdosing on pills

@@mr.misfit9514 I know who he is lolol, I just don't listen to his music on the regular

omygoodness that’s so evil but i love it

Causally threatening the other team as a psychological attack to win games. That is the true purpose of pep bands!

That’s actually insane 😂😂😂

Holy shit your right, how did I not hear that before...

exactly what i was thinking lmao

Love that

exactly! i love how many references to death and musicals you can find in "The Whole "Being Dead" Thing" once you take a closer look at the lyrics (like the direct shout out to "Rodgers, Hart, and Hammerstein here" in the second verse). honestly after listening to beetlejuice sing a whole song about death, hearing what's essentially the musical death chant in between the last few lines of the chorus is just a nice cherry on top XD

I think the hair certainly helps. But yeah he was so... Dark. Especially if you knew him as Jack Sparrow

Yeah, i think of him as really scary and melancholic in this role and in an realistic way. Way different from the "adorable crazy guy" he usually plays

I honestly hate Alms, Alms haha. I haven’t seen the theatrical version but I’ve watched the film many times and I hate the thing her voice does. When I listen to the soundtrack it always catches me off guard and it’s so loud when it comes on. I think it was a good move as far as how to do the song for the movie, but I don’t enjoy listening to it for fun haha. It’s even a little scary.

@@Rachel-xg7hs Yeah, it's a pretty jarring song...

It's supposed to be that way and it's too late at night to explain why it is but it's sondheim and Burton and it wouldn't be that jarring if there wasn't a reason for it.

@@michealpersicko9531 i mean probably just the fact that she lives on the streets as a result of sexual assault trauma is sufficient enough reason. the word ‘alms’ is about justice and compassion, something neither present in her life nor the film, so i suppose singing it in that jarring voice is quite disturbing to an audience who cant show her compassion or give her justice

Spoiling the movie for the few people who care about this stuff. Also the entire movie title "the deadly barbier from fleet street" 'spoils' the plot aswell. The directors didnt care and the viewers knew from the trailer what this movie was about

literally everything from that story is just death😭🤚

Unless this is confirmed, this seems a wee bit far fucking fetched don’t you think

@@blueshell292 it's a fun fact, not a theory

@@blueshell292 it's just a funny detail, no one said it was intentional

I actually never thought about that, even though I speak german

Which one?

I was thinking of that too, the part is actually stuck in my mind now lol

And it plays again when he's chasing Quasimodo and Esmeralda right before he dies

The use of the dies irae and Latin in hunchback makes me foam at the mouth its so good

Plus everytime "Kyria eleison" is referenced either in the score or sung by the Greek choir. It's perfect everytime it's used

i found a fan edit of hunchback recently where someone had cut out all the gargoyles. there's a couple of times where it's a little jarring ("dear boy, whomever are you talking to?"), but overall it's such a relief to be able to watch it without constantly getting tonal whiplash. it's a great film!

The first time I watched the movie I was convinced he was going to kill her!

She would have been dead if Mrs Lovett hadn't screamed

Of course, also, someday, she will die.

@@rileyabeles4972 yes me too, I thought he was going to kill her accidentally

ye rabbit nooooooo. I hate that episode

Lmaooooo😂

THIS COMMENT!!!! 🤩🤩🤣🤣🤣🤣 In my Top 5 fav episodes!!!!! #michaelScottPaperCompany 🤪

😂😂😂😂

Andy deserved better smh

You are correct. It's definitely there. It's also in Quasimodo's theme, just listen to the first notes of "the Bells of Notre Dame".

I’m glad I stumbled upon this comment. I wish he’d do a video about Disney’s Hunchback specifically.

Fun fact: Hellfire quotes the catholic mass. At the end of the song, the choir sings "kyrie eleison" which is the first verse of the mass. They also answer him in Latin, when he sings "it's not my fault, it's god's plan", they answer back "Mea culpa", which translated to "it's my fault"

The "Dies Irae" lyrics actually show up in "The Bells of Notre Dame" while Frollo is chasing Quasimodo's mother through the streets to the cathedral. And then another part of them show up during the hunt for Esmeralda. And what's really genius about the leadup to "Hellfire" is that it not only quotes the Catholic Mass, it quotes a Confessional ("Confiteor Deo Omnipotenti"), which leads directly into Frollo telling us about his lust for Esmeralda. It's just a brilliant score, honestly.

Speaking of "Hellfire", there's actually another song from the original show that if not bearing resemblance to "Hellfire", sure as hell(badum tssss) inspired it. It's Judge Turpin's song to Johanna(often called "Johanna(Judge)" or "Johanna(Mea Culpa)", and it's basically Turpin lusting after Johanna through a keyhole while whipping himself from his religiously intoned guilt, while masturbating to orgasm, ending with him ultimately deciding to marry Johanna so she would "deliver" him from evil(which equates to giving him a handjob if the last lyrics are concerned). It was Sondheim wanting to write a song centered on a building orgasm, that was ultimately cut from the original Broadway production during previews, both for how disturbing it was and for it arguably taking too much time in the show's run. Sondheim was mad at this, and insisted that the song AT LEAST be on the original cast recording(performed AMAZINGLY with the original orchestrations by Sondheim's frequent orchestrator Jonathan Tunick(who also expanded his original orchestrations for this movie, as well as for Into The Woods(both the original show and the film)), and by the original Judge Turpin himself(as well as the original Cinderella's Father in the original cast of Into The Woods), Edmund Lyndeck!), be published in the officially licensed score for the show, and it ultimately wouldn't be until later productions and Concerts that the song would soon be regularly performed! It's very twisted and gives a VERY revealing look at Judge Turpin's tormented character. An overly pious man who can't make himself affectively let go of the insatiable lust that led him to send an innocent barber away to rape his wife(the guilt ridden face Alan Rickman has during "Poor Thing" before he pounces on Lucy really struck me when I saw the movie for the first time), and is now focussing him on the wife's girl whom he's raised since she was a baby. On the surface, he may not seem all that bothered by his own monstrousness(unlike Beadle Bamford, who would otherwise derive sick sadistic pleasure from it, as far as the movie's concerned), but with this song you really get a fuller picture of a corrupt beast who makes himself both aware and unaware of the damage he's caused for his own sexual gain, until the bitter end when sees too late that the same man he wronged has come back to get him. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qE5UZfSohHw.html

i'm so happy i'm not the only one that noticed that

I didn't see Borat in Harry Potter

if only we had sweeney todd in harry potter somehow also

@@dumbass9049 If this isn't sarcasm, Johnny plays Gellart Grindelwald so...

When both sweeney and anthony are Grindelwald O.o

The sentence is said like introducing your bastard pet that you love deeply

Daniel F oh... when was it? 🙈

@@Phoe8D The leitmotif Elsa keeps hearing is the first four notes of the Dies Irae - and it's her dead mother.

Daniel F omg 🙈 you’re a genius

holy crap i never realised that omgg

HOLY CRAP I JUST GOT OUT OF THE THEATER AND I’M LEARNING THIS NOW ??

I KNOW RIGHT?!?! I can’t stand hearing the scream anymore it sounds so obvious and cheesy but that’s definitely just because I hear it EVERY TIME

I can’t explain the Wilhem Scream, but I know it when I hear it

@@silverowlcity4373 AAaahhhhuhhhhaaaa

Aaron Phillips I heard this. Don’t ask how but a certain scene from Star Wars just popped into my head at the sight of this comment and fight mode has been activated

Yeah, that wilhelm scream... After a while I started hearing it in the weirdest places, and you just get to... 'oh, there it is again. great''. XD

Er, Sondheim can't claim credit for that one. The first Sweeney Todd story was published in 1846-47.

Sondheim didn't create the name 'Sweeney Todd'. It's an old British legend.

That wasn’t Soundheim who invented Sweeney’s name. Sweeney Todd was around during the Victorian Era. The story was originally a Penny Dreadful story.

german, gaelic, and french? if i were inventing a metaphor name i'd stick with one language so people who interpreted it didn't sound like they were reaching super hard

Also the half-assedness is the point of that first line, it's meant to convey that he's almost out of fucks. If he sang it properly he'd ruin it.

Ever notice the Christmas carol "Carol of the Bells" has the Dies Irae repeated over and over?

@@RaymondHng Learned that for Choral... But holy crap 😳😅😂

@@gianinamorales8597 No wonder "Carol of the Bells" sounded so unsettling and disturbing. "Why this creepy melody is in so many movies" ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--3-bVRYRnSM.html

@@RaymondHng I always wondered why I found it so ominous and badass lmao

RaymondHng so thaaatss why it sounds so creepy

lol it was

It was mine I insta subscribed back when this was first posted. I Stan.

Both of y'all have begun a wonderful journey. I highly recommend you watch his entire back catalog. It's so worth it

This is my second and I feel like my brain is melting

It was

Hacim 42 - This is the funniest thing I’ve seen all week.

Now, leitmotifs need to be cleaned, lubricated, and wound tight. You know what I mean by a culmination of leitmotifs?

Fave comment thanks for reposting!

Who is the guy on your profile picture I see him everywhere on the internet

@@katestavridi5193 JonTron

*slits throat

i didn't notice any mention of that.

Basically, yeah

22 minutes of it

Hmmmm could be

no i don't think so

Okay; but, I still like the stage version with George Hearn and Angela Lansbury best...

This is my favorite adaption but I also love the stage version and the movie version of Into the Woods.

What about Chicago?

I saw West Side Story (2021) pretty recently. NOT ANYMORE

I was going to say what about west side story, but it’s already older than 50 years, so you’re correct!