How the Nazis Teamed Up with IBM for Mass Murder (And How the First Ethical Hacker Fought Back)

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@TodayIFoundOut 2 года назад

@coltonbenson365 2 года назад

yeah my cousin was my boss

@TheHardys01 2 года назад

8:31 Where have I heard of something similar????

@TheHardys01 2 года назад

11:48 So is that not the same thought process for which cancel culture is being cried?

@marcbeebee6969 2 года назад

Brilliant episode. 👏

@ShadoeHaze 2 года назад

Your videos are SO informative and FULL of information. Unfortunately, it takes several attempts for me to get through one of them because of the monotone sound of your voice. Man, it sounds like you are just literatlly reading line by line, purposefully trying to insert zero emotion or interest into your own narration. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm seriously telling you how much I'd love to be able to watch your videos more, due to the amount of effort you obviously put into them... but just can not because of your voiceovers. Please consider working on this.

@DanteTheAbyssalBeing 2 года назад

It's a terrible shame I'd never heard of René Carmille. Man was the absolute definition of hero.

@aguynamednathan 2 года назад

He clearly stands with the likes of Oskar Schindler, and Dr. Hans Münch, as passive aggressive, resistance fighters

@NevadaLamb 2 года назад

Same. I searched his name while watching this video cause I want to hear more about him, but there’s nothing to be found! He deserves so much more credit.

@ben5056 2 года назад

I probably wouldn’t be alive without him

@sidneysun5217 2 года назад

we need a biographics video on him

@jamesslick4790 2 года назад

René Carmille should have a medal/award named for him that would go to someone who thwarts massive evil by ethical "hacking" or other ethical tech based sabotage.

@Sevenfeet0 2 года назад

Way back in 1989 when I was at Apple fresh out of college, I had the opportunity to attend the Educom convention in Ann Arbor, MI and there was a party at the Henry Ford Museum. The party had two memorable moments. First was meeting Steve Jobs, who was at NeXT at this point pitching NeXT Cubes for the education market. The second was finding the display of the original Hollerith machine from 1890. No one had noticed it among the many other artifacts but I had written about it for a high school paper in the early 80s. I brought friends over to see it saying "THAT machine is why we are all here. This was the first business computer."

@waterandafter 2 года назад

Hopefully it doesn't get lost.

@allenanderson4911 2 года назад

I wonder if Mr. Jobs would have lived if he hadn't relyed on new age medicine so long.

@metsrock15 2 года назад

@@allenanderson4911 What do you mean? Edit: I think I get it now be "New Age" you're talking about all those homeopathy get well soon remedies

@aprilnelson3018 2 года назад

@@allenanderson4911 according to his biographer, yes. The dr. who initially diagnosed him wept when he realized that the particular prostate cancer sj had was slow growing and highly treatable. He simply waited too long to have the surgery.

@catherinejohnson1354 2 года назад

Easy on the way back lol

@oh8wingman 2 года назад

What René Carmille did was to say the least an act of bravery. He obviously knew what the outcome of his efforts would be for him personally but despite this he went on doing it until he was finally arrested and imprisoned. People like Carmille give me faith that there will always be some who will do what they have to because it is simply the right thing to do.

@deathminder9206 2 года назад

Sadly none of those type of people were on the SEPTA train in Philly.

@paul20g20 2 года назад

Taking down this cesspool of living human shit called the leftwing democrat should be a priority

@SirTorcharite 2 года назад

@@paul20g20 a man who believes corruption lies only in the party of his opposition is either a fool blinded by his own biases or intentionally sewing division for his own benefit. Do you get anything for mindlessly disparaging your own countryman? As much as neither party believes it there's likely similar levels of good intentioned, moral people in both parties. Who am I kidding though, you're probably a Sino-Russki bot given the randomness of bringing up US politics in unrelated discussions.

@SirTorcharite 2 года назад

@@paul20g20 Just Dont Tell Mom I'm in Chechnya

@mr_byebye 2 года назад

Its sad because 99% of the human race can't be trusted to do this

@stevec6232 2 года назад

I'm going to guess reason IBM were never prosecuted is because like German rocket scientists they were extremely useful to the US entering the computer era.

@nilus2k 2 года назад

Plus IBM was hardly the only company that worked with the Nazis.

@tiredturtle3538 2 года назад

Plus they provided equipment for the Nuremberg trials

@russellfitzpatrick503 2 года назад

Same as with unit 731 of the Imperial Japanese army

@stankaye3861 2 года назад

They also manufactured M1 Carbines.

@Gr3nadgr3gory 2 года назад

@@nilus2k we didn't enter the war for quite a long time, until we did America's policy was to sell to both sides.

@RHCole 2 года назад

11:51 I love when something Simon reads is so outrageous that he actually starts paying attention to what the script says.

@jamesslick4790 2 года назад

René Carmille should have a medal/award named for him that would go to someone who thwarts massive evil by ethical "hacking" or other ethical tech based sabotage.

@crowhaveninc.2103 2 года назад

That's an amazing idea. Why isn't this a thing yet?

@Elyseon 2 года назад

If he'd done the same today he would have been declared a public enemy.

@bennyjetsaroundtheworld9047 2 года назад

Long before Snowden there were great men, history like this needs to be celebrated not hidden lest in repeat itself

@melangellatc1718 2 года назад

So, you're talking about Jan 6th insurgents who hate the American Constitution?

@jamesslick4790 2 года назад

@@melangellatc1718 WTF? You're a 🤡

@bjornodin 2 года назад

I knew about IBM's involvement but never heard of this guy before. On a side note, instead of commissioning statues and monuments to honor this great hero, the French civil service decided to base their employee handbook on his pioneering practices 😁

@davidgreen8512 2 года назад

That's the highest honour a bureaucrat can receive 😁

@wearetomorrowspast.5617 2 года назад

A lesson for everyone. Not all heroes wear capes. I'll raise a glass.

@PrezVeto 2 года назад

The ones for surreptitiously thwarting progress, you mean? 😆

@Cman04092 2 года назад

Renne Carmile, what a hero and a total legend.

@russellfitzpatrick503 2 года назад

... and Thomas Watson????????

@bosmerfromcanada3878 2 года назад

René Carmille deserves the Legion of Honor and one of those boulevards with fancy shops and cafes named in honor.

@bosmerfromcanada3878 2 года назад

@@russellfitzpatrick503 Money-grubbing genocidaire and deserves a Damnatio Memoriae. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damnatio_memoriae

@justinsullivan5063 2 года назад

I thought I had heard ALMOST everything about the Holocaust, but I had never heard of this man. Thank you so much - great video. Rest in Peace, Rene. You earned it.

@marcmenard9121 Год назад

The holocaust? Haa Haa Haa What was that? Were you there to witnes that ever existed?

@rackneh 2 года назад

Thank you for ending a video about monsters by mentioning the names and deeds of a few heroes. That was a great pallet cleanser.

@KameaMedia 2 года назад

pallet = palate

@iainballas 2 года назад

Ah yes. The thing no 85 or more year old company wants asked: who did you make stuff for in the 30s and 40s

@richardarriaga6271 2 года назад

Volkswagen, Texaco (Chevron), Mitsubishi, IBM *fades into shrub*

@NeilCWCampbell 2 года назад

It like realising which army that colonel Sanders served in and which courthouse they surrendered in ;)

@jamesslick4790 2 года назад

@@NeilCWCampbell Colonel Sanders was not a military Colonel. It's an honorary title bestowed by the Commonwealth of Kentucky. He did serve in the United States Army. If you are trying to imply that because he was old and Southern that he was a Colonel in the Confederate army, It's a fail. He was born a quarter century AFTER the Civil War.

@NeilCWCampbell 2 года назад

@@jamesslick4790 it a line from family guy ;) But Ty for true facts they always handy :)

@jamesslick4790 2 года назад

@@NeilCWCampbellI'm sorry that I missed the joke. I'm a 59 year old who has seen 0 episodes of "Family Guy". I didn't mean to jump on ya! I should consider that some references are to pop culture. (I'm sure there has been some random quote that I might have used from a 1970s TV show that could was misinterpreted by a younger audience as well as I did yours) But, the Innerwebs being the Innerwebs...I'm SURE that someone out there REALLY thinks that Colonel Sanders WAS a Confederate soldier! I mean there are "Flat Earthers" all over the GLOBE! 👍😊👍

@glassbakeware 2 года назад

IBM did a very good job of sweeping all this under a rug. I read a book about it years ago and when I tell people about it they just look at me like I'm crazy.

@russellfitzpatrick503 2 года назад

... and flok still drive FORD and wear Hugo Boss ...., so why not use IBMs

@Gr3nadgr3gory 2 года назад

Nobody should be surprised. America profited off both sides of the war until the Japanese decided it was a good idea to bomb Pearl Harbor.

@Gr3nadgr3gory 2 года назад

@Account NumberEight they gave the US exactly what they wanted in the end though. An excuse to enter the war. After all without the first literal strike coming from them the people's support was iffy. Nobody pays attention to trade, now or then.

@thomasn3954 2 года назад

If nobody has mentioned it, Edwin Black wrote an amazing book about this in exceptional detail

@boiledelephant 2 года назад

The preface is heart-breaking. He describes the moment when he committed to embark on the research that eventually became the book: he visited a war museum exhibition on the holocaust with his parents, both Polish holocaust survivors who had met while narrowly escaping death at the hands of the Nazis. He stood with them before a hollerith machine in a display cabinet, its annotation noting its central role in the enactment of the final solution. Stamped clearly on its casing was the IBM company name. He promised them he would find out the story behind it. (I don't believe his parents lived to see the publication of the book.)

@Heliocentric 2 года назад

That's where they got the video idea, duh.

@Cryodrake 2 года назад

A very interesting and horrible history of IBM.

@Taragoola 2 года назад

Every corporation that's existed that long has a horrible history. Corporations aren't people but if they were they'd all be sociopaths.

@sbdreamin 2 года назад

IBM is the one behind our current Covid passports. You figure out the next step planned.

@slcpunk2740 2 года назад

Hmm I wonder why they sell under 'Lenovo'

@MsEsquire83 2 года назад

It's something I've struggled with for years. My parents weren't aware of the history and my dad's still in denial about it. Finding out my entire life was only possible because of such an unconscionable company has been difficult.

@TheBanisher24 2 года назад

Hrll. Just look at Hugo BOSS

@rolandbogush2594 2 года назад

I am genuinely shocked to learn about IBM's involvement in the Holocaust. I am sorry never to have heard of Carmille before. Thank you, Simon.

@artistwithouttalent 2 года назад

My God. I knew the Nazis used IBM punch card machines, but I never knew how directly involved IBM was.

@mystikarain 2 года назад

Not to mention Ford!

@MrFlatage 2 года назад

@@mystikarain Yes why we do not like Americans screaming how they won WWII. Those who never had grandparents and many others who gave their lives for freedom remember the manufacturer plates on the vehicles used by the Nazi Warmachine to invade and kill. Ford Werke, GM Werke. While IBM did the registration US Kodak made use of the Jews as slavelabout to make America First their 'profits'. General Electric was worse. Can you imagine that company used Jewish slave labout to build the gaschambers? All the while the Made in US vehicles the Germans rode to war were fueled by US standard oil. With endless credit from Chase Bank ofcourse. And while the world suffered? All those German soldiers were drinking Fanta which was the cover up name for ... Coca Cola. While wearing the American Hugo Boss designed uniforms. Without the US there would never have been any WWII.

@PuckDudesHockey 2 года назад

@@MrFlatage My grandfather fought in the war against the Nazis... AND he worked for Ford Motor Company for his entire career... from the Model T through to the Mustang. His only pause from Ford was during the war. I'm not sure if he ever knew just how problematic that whole picture was. I'm glad I didn't know the history myself until after his death... I never faced the situation of having to join those dots in a conversation with him.

@tskraj3190 2 года назад

@@MrFlatage Hugo Ferdinand Boss was apart of the German Nazi Party and Hugo Boss was a German Company at the time. The military vehicles and planes used by the Nazi's were Mercedes, Bosch and BMW. Oh and Nazi Germany get their petroleum from Romania and then later on used synthetic fuels from coal deposits. The British and American Air Forces bombed Germany's refineries which helped win the war. Stop spreading false information because you hate Americans.

@MrFlatage 2 года назад

@@tskraj3190 So you and I quote 'hate Americans'? Those are your words even though you use propaganda edit tactics like the facists did. Shame the video gives us the truth and fact. You are spreading the false information based on your hatred just like a Nazi here for all to see. Feel free to visit our museums and fact check what the manufacturer plates say on the German warmachines? Ford Werke? GM Werke? Yes you cannot edit those out can you. Nor can Chase Bank change those confiscated historical documents proving what they did. I love how you have no clue about factual history. July 26, 1947, President Truman approved the National Security Act of 1947. We can proof read that against your vile attempt at disinformation. Yes now everyone will read the same exact words with the Presidents signature and realize the U.S Airforce was founded ... after WWII. You do bare simularities with a German leader hiding in a bunker moving pieces around on a board that didn't exist. You guys related perhaps? 'American Air Forces'. Good one! No one who took the pledge will back you up on your BS.

@jamesdellaneve9005 2 года назад

According to Edwin Black, the tattoo numbers were based on the punch cards.

@mystikarain 2 года назад

They were.

@justinransburg5560 2 года назад

Is this also the origin of barcode tattoos?

@jamesdellaneve9005 2 года назад

@@justinransburg5560 I doubt it. But don’t know.

@Tupiaz 2 года назад

@@justinransburg5560 Barcode tattos are either done for fun or as reference to the video game hitman.

@margaretsander8419 2 года назад

...what a simple but mind blowing connection!

@PeterCombs 2 года назад

as long as the checks don't bounce, IBM will do business...simple.

@DixonLu 2 года назад

That sentence applies to another company that had a six hour outage the other day, according to one of their former data scientist.

@jalight27 2 года назад

Isn't that every corporation?

@emr6153 2 года назад

@@DixonLu careful abt who you believe... just saying, if this is actually a real Facebook whistle blower, how come within 48 hours after she came out she was ALREADY BERATING CONGRESS with lamentable stories that will make censorship much more likely?

@jaygatsby3039 2 года назад

Welcome to capitalism babe.

@Simonsvids 2 года назад

It's not up to individual companies to decide who they can sell to, that is the role of the government. The US government could have refused an export licence - they did not.

@Ash-V-Leal 2 года назад

Yes, I read a book about it in 2001 called IBM and the Holocaust by Edwin Black

@glassbakeware 2 года назад

Excellent book

@prisonguardgus Год назад

Opinions vary.

@dabluedevil1000 2 года назад

Mr. Carmille, you sir, are a hero. My love and respect to you for your brilliant work of saving human lives. A legend. It's a pity we never learned about you in history books.

@fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName 2 года назад

'IBM is a piece of shit, allegedly' I love it when 'blaze factboy' slips in to his more serious videos

@MrArgus11111 2 года назад

They should sue the everloving hell out of the production company that owns Baldy. They won't, but they should.

@twoheadeddatascientist3289 2 года назад

@@MrArgus11111 Sorry are you suggesting that IBM should sue the presenter for calling the former a piece of sh*t? Why? Because for 12 years IBM was close friends with the Nazis, and because of the machines IBM sold to the Nazis many many Jews were recorded, and found out only to be brutally murdered. IBM is currently a job creator. IBM is a wealth creator. IBM is doing more good nowadays. But those 12 years WILL NEVER be ignored. Only by examining the good and the bad in any person or organisation then you can better understand them. Those 12 years were a piece of sh*t.

@fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName 2 года назад

@@MrArgus11111 I fucking love the RU-vid community. Never change.

@MrArgus11111 2 года назад

If the suggestion is that IBM supplied assistance for record keeping machines to the Nazis *with full knowledge that they had death camps*, it is false. There's a reason US GIs were shocked to find the concentration camps: The world didn't know they existed. Rumors were floating around but for the most part people west of Germany didn't believe them. The Nazis were viewed as criminal expansionists and violence mongers, but not as mass murderers. The worst thing IBM could be found actually complicit in is helping the Germans keep records. That's literally it. They shouldn't be proud of it, but they aren't murderers.

@MrArgus11111 2 года назад

@@fuckYTIDontWantToUseMyRealName There is no "community". Tacking that word onto any group of people that use a thing is childish and actually creates rifts between people that would never happen otherwise. This isn't about rooting for your team. Morality is not binary.

@ryanatkinson2978 2 года назад

Rene, you are one of the best humans ever made. Good work chap

@GM-it5rj 2 года назад

Simon Whistler, at this point I have no earthly idea how many of your videos I’ve watched by this juncture in my life. I can only imagine how many hours I’ve listened to you speak, covering a mind boggling variety of topics over a multitude of your channels. But I can honestly say that this was the most poignant, real, and relevant topic I’ve seen you cover so far. Bravo good sir. Keep up the good work.

@viviserket4704 2 года назад

this was an extremely well researched video and as a Roma woman i would like to personally thank you for mentioning us. We are so often forgotten in discussions of Nazis and the holocaust. We still face a massive level of discrimination to this day and it's just nice to be recognized when the topic comes up.

@m2heavyindustries378 2 года назад

lol learn not to steal in Europe and you're all good

@jamesdellaneve9005 11 месяцев назад

I worked at IBM in Endicott, NY in the 1980’s. This was the heart of IBM when Armonk was the headquarters. The Watson family lived in Endicott. The culture of IBM was very cult like. The local radio station had a skit called “Meet the Beemers (IBMer’s), where they’d lampoon the culture and use the internal language of the company. The IBMers were the top of the heap in town. One of the local shops sold a doll called the zipperhead doll. The saying was that for IBMers, “Zip the head open, remove the brains and zip it closed.” I was on a 9 month contract and was glad to leave.

@sophiecates2924 2 года назад

Fun fact! Arguably the first punch-card computers were actually textile weaving looms for complex fabrics like jacquard and brocade.

@curtiss8942 2 года назад

Now do one on Ford Motor Company.

@woodwaker1 2 года назад

It was not so much the company as Henry Ford himself

@theboywithathorninhisside.4179 2 года назад

Ford. Highly likely yet another Nazi Campaign supporter/Funder. Along with The Kennedy Family at the Time. As a large amount of American Corporations were founded via Germany Immigrates.

@mphaan 2 года назад

While landing on D-day German trucks where in the dunes near bunkers. Some soldiers mistakenly mentioned "Hey the Americans are already there." The German trucks where exactly the same as the American trucks and also the production lines where the same. Some of these production lines where bombed in the war and after the war Ford sued the Americans for the bombing of their factories in Germany and won. So after the war the Americans had to pay Ford for these bombings. Ford had truck factories in Nazi Germany, its all documented.

@gladeloy3341 2 года назад

lots of ford & gm motors in those panzers & staff cars

@HenryPaulThe3rd 2 года назад

@@mphaan Toyota has plants in America. If the Japanese government bombed those factories, would the Toyota company not have grounds to sue, for loss of their property? Seems legit to me

@theodorekempinski8451 Год назад

As a teacher of the Holocaust to American high school students this is the most modern and current piece about this subject. I will show it to all my classes because it demonstrates how far one could reach to deny responsibility- to this very day. Very few logical people with morals based in the needs of society would argue against IBM's serious responsibility for slave labor, the murdering of millions of Jews specifically and other heinous acts associated with the Germans during WWII. I am grateful for this piece and the scholarship it provides. Never forget René Carmille!

@SimuLord 2 года назад

Who knew the term "IBM-compatible", popularized in the '80s to describe PCs, actually dates back to the 1930s and people making "IBM-compatible" punch cards?

@kevinomara3293 2 года назад

IBM was a pisser about propriety. They made everything so it couldn't be copied. Except they screwed up in the 80s with the PS2

@pappapaps Год назад

@@kevinomara3293 That's interesting, will you elaborate?

@kevinomara3293 Год назад

@@pappapaps They had a monopolistic grip on the industry and made all their hardware very specific. They custom made most every part and restricted access to those parts demanding way above premium price fpor everything because they could. When the tried this crap with their PC the industry fought bace and created their own specs. IBM lost that battle.

@pappapaps Год назад

@@kevinomara3293 Thank you. Have you read or seen a talk by Edwin Black? Apparently elite industrialists in the United States were pivotal for the fast Nazi regime expansion.

@Reveticate 2 года назад

The music you guys use is just quiet enough and just the right frequency to be barely noticeable and I can't stop thinking about it / trying to hear it.

@shakiMiki 2 года назад

That's your dull response to such an amazing story?

@Reveticate 2 года назад

@@shakiMiki yes.

@spookeymo 2 года назад

@@shakiMiki you can appreciate the story without commenting about it dude

@sophierobinson2738 2 года назад

music?

@Reveticate 2 года назад

@@sophierobinson2738 yes. Just ever so slightly audible on the background.

@Olkv3D 2 года назад

I had worked for IBM years ago and if you were heard talking about this or the book "IBM and the Holocaust" by Edwin Black, you would be fired immediately.

@eadweard. 2 года назад

Is that true or cobblers?

@Olkv3D 2 года назад

absolutely true

@jamesdellaneve9005 2 года назад

I worked for them as a contract engineer back in the early 1980’s. Endicott. Ground zero. The culture was like a dysfunctional religion. I am not big rule follower. The locals called them zipperheads. Zip the head open, remove the brains, zip it closed. They actually sold zipperhead dolls in local shops. The beamers (IBM’rs) had advanced degrees and worked on tasks much lower than their capabilities. At least, that’s my general observation. I was very turned off by their culture.

@Olkv3D 2 года назад

@@jamesdellaneve9005 I did my sentence from the late 90's to early 2000's - Poughkeepsie and East Fishkill. It was not a pleasant experience.

@jamesdellaneve9005 2 года назад

@@Olkv3D I found that those who bought into the culture were very happy. They all tried to get their kids into IBM. They would have them hire into Florida and then try to transfer back. Little did they know the large scale layoffs that were to come within a decade. So much for those “Full Employment” signs that I saw everywhere.

@amandam8609 2 года назад

Might get sued for this one Simon, didn’t seem like there was enough “allegedly”s

@carlthor91 2 года назад

Statute of limitations. ;-)

@Moto_Medics 2 года назад

It’s history can’t sue over what actually happened

@Cman04092 2 года назад

Also, I think IBM would want to skip this lawsuit, due to the Streisand effect. They wouldn't wanna bring any extra attention to a video like this, which a lawsuit most definitely would.

@michelbelanger2845 2 года назад

Would be pretty dumb of them to bring this out into the spot light

@mgkleym 2 года назад

Edwin Black's "IBM and the Holocaust" has been in print for 20 years now. IBM would be hard pressed to sue given the historical facts in question and has been pretty reluctant to do more then claim people are drawing the wrong conclusions from the facts.

@gamegamezero7704 2 года назад

Renee deserves a movie to tell his tale

@davidroddick91 2 года назад

"Carmille's List," the story of the intentionally useless census.

@sophiam2095 2 года назад

@@davidroddick91 With the right writing team, it could be awesome,

@gabebalassone 2 года назад

Who would have thought massive corporations would be complacent with bad things for money! How surprising.

@fgregerfeaxcwfeffece 2 года назад

Check where the Nazis got their fashionable uniforms. Surely wont be companys that are currently seen as reputable.

@singerkk 2 года назад

I think you mean complicit. But maybe also complacent.

@DickTruth 2 года назад

"Ugh, that's terrible! I'm never buying anything from IBM again!" *sips a Coke, gets in a Ford to drive to work* -some of you, probably

@sidma5661 2 года назад

Do IBM even sell consumer level stuff anymore?

@DickTruth 2 года назад

@@sidma5661 A lot of their hardware can be found in gaming consoles, and they do cloud computing and blockchain processes as well. But you can't just go out and buy an IBM desktop anymore, I don't think. But my comment was meant to be a joke, anyway.

@RAGEVforVash 2 года назад

Lenovo bought IBM’s PC division in 2005.

@m2heavyindustries378 2 года назад

I mean it's a fair point lol, but I drive a Toyota

@beauzer36 7 дней назад

Anyone with a B of A, Chase, Wells Fargo, Citi bank account too.

@stevencook9167 2 года назад

thank you for this one never even heard a whisper of this

@Simonsvids 2 года назад

The older you get, the more you know, and the more sickened you are by humanity. Just giving you a heads up.

@richardarriaga6271 2 года назад

Only heard from a book, not amywhere else.

@jefferyepstein9210 2 года назад

Amazes me how many people have no idea about this

@NevadaLamb 2 года назад

I’ve been on a Brain Blaze binge watch all morning and now it’s time to switch over to Today I Found Out! 😃

@domonickmcgee8102 2 года назад

I feel like today I found out is for during the day like when you're probably around normal people and brain blaze if for when the sun goes down cause everyone knows that's when things get weird but I'm definitely wrong cause it's a little hard to sleep with Simon screaming in my ear and Danny's scripts are too funny

@leeinnes7127 2 года назад

Legend. Allegedly. AM I RIGHT PETER?!?

@80wolfmanrob 2 года назад

Simon could just continue with the rest of the companies that worked with the Nazis and he should already know because he done the same thing on a business blaze episode.

@brianscoffield584 2 года назад

Fascinating. Almost all of this was new to me. Many thanks.

@spencer6388 2 года назад

I need Simon to make a podcast cause I could literally listen to him ALL DAY

@AlexMalkavian 2 года назад

He has like four different podcasts. Most are defunct though.

@XDSDDLord 2 года назад

I think Casual Criminalist is his latest one.

@boris1387 2 года назад

I'm surprised the story of IBM isn't more widely known

@someperson7 2 года назад

Although... You comment got me curious, so I asked someone of an older generation and to my surprise they didn't know. So maybe it isn't that widely known🤷🏻‍♂️

@russellfitzpatrick503 2 года назад

Perhaps IBM, as one of America's biggest employeres, doesn't really want it known. Imagine how bad that would make it look

@MrFlatage 2 года назад

It's the 4th Reich so. I can teach critical race theory if I wanted because of my freedom. Not in America. I could do a book essay on my book of choice. US bans books because they don't have the balls to publically burn them anymore. You should look up the U.S Naval Amphibious Base Coronado, located south of San Diego. They're still claiming the design was an 'accident'.

@someperson7 2 года назад

@@MrFlatage Meh, I've seen that layout in restaurant booths also. It's a natural outcome of four adjacent squares with one non-contiguous opening each. If you're looking for reasons to be annoyed, go look up what we actually did with the Butcher of Lyon.

@boris1387 2 года назад

@@someperson7 I only found out around 10-15 years ago from my uncle who worked as a civil servant in London. He knew all kinds of things about shady stuff🤔

@winstonsmith8236 2 года назад

YES SIMON!!!! Ive been telling this story for years, my father worked for IBM!

@DarknessUnresolved 2 года назад

Thank you for making THIS video! IBM's complicity with the Nazis ought to be common history, but apparently a lot of people are still woefully unaware.

@prisonguardgus Год назад

Because you saw a RU-vid video with no references, you believe it? Having spoken to someone who worked in Germany on those machines, it didn't happen the way this video claims it did.

@DarknessUnresolved Год назад

@@prisonguardgus Not just "this video", but plenty of historical sources.

@evanfreund5651 Год назад

It does have sources linked if you check the description…

@chcomes 2 года назад

a very "into the shadows" "today Ifound out". Outstanding!

@kathyastrom1315 2 года назад

I first learned about the 1890 census and the punch cards in James Burke’s miniseries “Connections”-highly recommended, even though it is 40 years old. As a genealogy buff, the loss of the 1890 census data is a real problem, that info would fill in loads of holes on my tree!

@daveeller9708 2 года назад

I got Magellan recently and It's awesome. TV is generally crap but It actually gives me something to watch for a change. Thanks Simon.

@TheBanjoShowOfficial 2 года назад

Excellent delivery of this information

@RetroJack 2 года назад

Simon, while as a hearing-impaired person I appreciate your inclusion of subtitles, have you ever tried reading them?

@writerpatrick 2 года назад

I think they're auto-generated by YT. I've seen many mistakes in subtitles.

@RetroJack 2 года назад

@@writerpatrick Viewers can choose to use subtitles created by the content creator instead of the auto-generated ones, which is what I usually do to avoid this. I personally think cases like this are caused by laziness i.e. simply using the text provided by the auto-generated ones without any modification or correction.

@imlistening1137 2 года назад

@@RetroJack I have noticed that there are differences in subtitles. Some are a lot better, and even have additional content. But I don’t know how this happens! How do I choose content creator’s subtitles versus auto-generated?

@RetroJack 2 года назад

@@imlistening1137 What I suggest you do is click on the settings cog at the bottom of the video. Where both "English" and "English (auto-generated)" shown, simply click on "English". From that point on, your browser should remember your choice. If it in some time in the future shows crappy auto-generated subtitles again, that just means that it wasn't given the choice and will default back to "English" on the next one. Tom Scott's videos often have good creator-made subtitles. Try making your choice on this one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-A6F96xSoLPg.html

@imlistening1137 2 года назад

@@RetroJack Thank you very much! I never figured out the difference between them!

@ursafan40 2 года назад

"IBM's a bit of a piece of S*** isn't it" I love this channel

@jochenstacker7448 2 года назад

What simply isn't talked about enough is how weaving led to modern computers.

@oskarhenriksen 2 года назад

Punchcards in weaving machines, right?

@earmit007 2 года назад

This is important information, thank you for sharing

@Je.rone_ 2 года назад

Big businesses doing moral questionable things is ever green

@AsbestosMuffins 2 года назад

As an aside they also did the same thing in the US in aiding the organization, tabulation, and processing of American Germans and Japanese to be sent to the US's concentration camps

@AllMyHobbies 2 года назад

The us did not discriminate based on religion its perfectly fine to discriminate based on Country of origin when that country declares war on you. Come on totally different. And the US was not running mass extermination

@NoSpamForYou 2 года назад

@@AllMyHobbies Just stealing their property and putting them in camps where many died from disease from being in terrible living conditions. That was the Democrats' doing by the way. Dems kept the Army etc segregated, Republicans desegregated the armed forces when they got in office after the war. Dems fought school desegregation into the 1970s

@phueal 2 года назад

@@AllMyHobbies yeah, that is not “perfectly fine”…

@AllMyHobbies 2 года назад

@@phueal i think its perfectly fine maybe you don't but we all have our options. The japans rules dod not care about there citizens well fair if they did not want there people put in camps they would not of started the war

@phueal 2 года назад

@@AllMyHobbies they weren't Japan's citizens, most of them were American, and they're not responsible for the actions of the Japanese government. What you're describing as "perfectly fine" is pure racism: rounding people up based on their ethnicity, rather than anything they've actually done.

@SidewaysN 2 года назад

Do this for every major us company that worked with them

@seraph...4473 2 года назад

Why not European companies too?

@user-ee9cz6mc1x 2 года назад

That would be quite a long series. He probably could make another channel just for that.

@0BucketMask0 2 года назад

@@seraph...4473 America was the country that claimed to hate the nazis more than anyone else (we made killing nazis a defining part of our culture and national pride until very recently when nazism rose in power here) so American companies would be the biggest hypocrites out of all of them. You can't make "punch hitler in the face" posters for the war and help hitler murder millions at the same time without getting called out on it.

@seraph...4473 2 года назад

@@0BucketMask0 but there were NAZI sympothizing companies in countries that were literally being invaded. The US never claimed to be the most NAZI hating country, most of the US supported germany until Pearl Harbor.

@MrFlatage 2 года назад

@@user-ee9cz6mc1x Back in 2017 the US Associated Press told everyone they had to play along because else they could not have reported anymore. To this very day that series hasn't even ended. His grandchildren would have to take over that channel.

@gideonfelt2819 2 года назад

Never had an opinion on IBM before, but now have a sizable level of distain for the company.

@prisonguardgus Год назад

This video has several errors in it. Watson was a business man, but he was also a patriot. IBM made M1 carbines, norden bombsights, and BARs for the US forces. Sold them to the government for only 1% and used that 1% to help families of workers who had gone to fight, but didn't come back.

@mattyt1961 2 года назад

I knew that IBM created the punch card system they used to catalogue everyone, but I didn't realise how hands on they were especially when given a way out.

@lokibrux 2 года назад

This was like a episode of business/brain blaze. Seven and a half minutes of rambling before actually getting to the subject of the video. Love it.

@80wolfmanrob 2 года назад

That's because this was in one the videos it's called "companies that worked with the Nazis". He talks about IBM and Hugo boss some others too but it's one favorite videos on that channel.

@daneaton2230 2 года назад

awesome video as always! Will you do a video about the ‘cipher key’? I had never heard of it and it sounds fascinating!

@louisetrott5532 6 месяцев назад

I'm an archivist and I found this fascinating! Archivists primarily work with information management systems. This account of early digital recordkeding was an eye-opener!

@user-ee9cz6mc1x 2 года назад

Never say "i have nothing to hide" when it comes to privacy or data collection.

@HeilRay 2 года назад

Too right.

@tturi2 2 года назад

it'll only be weaponised against you the one out of 100 times you let them take it

@r.b.ratieta6111 2 года назад

Definitely one of those stories that aren't found in High School history books (at least not in America) but should be there. Especially now that we're so reliant on digital technology for everyday activities. A technical variant of the phrase "In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king." Something along the lines of, "In the land of closed-source machinery, the guy who knows how the system works has the final say."

@LeftToWrite006 2 года назад

This absolutely hits as a great vid on every level.

@justinbeloy5829 2 года назад

It's so awesome to get an ad in the middle of the sponsor speech...

@MsEsquire83 2 года назад

I'm from an IBM family. My parents met working there. My dad retired from IBM as a Global Project Manager in 2012. I could tell you some crazy shit...

@jefferyepstein9210 2 года назад

Do tell!!!

@MsEsquire83 2 года назад

@@jefferyepstein9210 thought you were dead? (Sorry. Couldn't help it😂)

@MsEsquire83 2 года назад

@@jefferyepstein9210 one example - my dad successfully sued IBM in the late 80s/early 90s for discrimination as a white middle aged male, which is definitely a wtf kinda thing. I'd have to speak w my dad before I say anything else, I don't know if his NDA expired yet

@AdityaMehendale 2 года назад

Do tell, but then under an alias. You could put your parents in serious trouble otherwise.

@MsEsquire83 2 года назад

(He only sued to get his job back)

@marychace1011 2 года назад

That was epic! Also something I was not aware of.

@nosuchthing8 2 года назад

I remember the book

@johnreno4156 Год назад

Imagine if a current review of today's media and corporate contribution to oppression, suppresion and violations human dignity were reviewed daily.

@djdange01 2 года назад

A Mainlie iv full of content This is why i love simon ;)

@bicdut 2 года назад

There's no statute of limitations on war criminals. But in 70 years it's not even the same company. I'm super conflicted.

@ZechsMerquise195 2 года назад

In 2010 a 7-minute short was released about René Carmille, called Interregnum. Worth a watch.

@philsowers Год назад

The short film is on youtube ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tOEFO1kU8rY.html

@trj1442 2 года назад

Another excellent episode. Thanks TIFO crew.

@clueless4085 2 года назад

Simon's color matching is ON POINT.

@vustvaleo8068 2 года назад

also playing Castle Wolfenstein on IBM computers brutally annihilating all the Nazis like a boss.

@Galadonin 2 года назад

Baguette man here just to say that passive resistance is well taught in the school cursus. My teacher used Carmille as an exemple to show us that every single sabotage was important in the great picture of the Resistance. And yes our social security is still base on his system : 1/2 (male female) 01-99 ("county" zip code) 1-12 (month) 1-31 (day).

@danielthompson6207 2 года назад

It's a shame that the Resistance gets so little attention here in US school courses; it barely gets glossed over, yet was an absolutely crucial part of the war.

@Galadonin 2 года назад

@@danielthompson6207 Well that's a shame, of course the resistance wasn't as "good" as the battle of Britain but still, we were there on the battlefield, we saved lives and our honour. I know about Germany of the UK for example in Europe, the resistance is taught well enough but it's the main focus of French, History, civics even English in school when we were 14. We can see it, feel it in every town ! I lived next to a woman that was passing message and intel from occupied to the free France, she did a lot, a lot of nasty thing to secure intel. Just this your neighbors, friends, we all have stories from this period. My great grandfather came to France in 1940 from Poland. A Catholic priest baptized the family because they were Jews. It's a delicate thing, source of shame because we lost the battle of France so fast, but yet De Gaulle is our "Hamilton or Washington" father of our free, proud and respected France (sorry for the long comment, so Manu things to say)

@Luna_Voynich 2 года назад

Wow you guys are very brave for making this

@DarkSerris 2 года назад

Amazing video, good job to everyone invlolved in it !

@Gunni1972 2 года назад

Carmille: The Assange/Snowden/Binney/McGovern/Kiriakou/Manning of his time. Never forget.

@badluck5647 2 года назад

The Berlin Olympics would make an interesting Megaproject.

@Wintertidal 2 года назад

It's great to see this covered (I mean... terrible it happened), heard about it ages ago but no one ever seems to talk about it, lol.

@Bacopa68 2 года назад

The Lindbergh video plugged here is really good. Never knew he did so much medical stuff and also explains how he became so much a sympathizer.

@tylerchristensen1484 2 года назад

So when Alex Jones said on Timcast that “Thomas Watson gave birth to Hitler” he wasn’t wrong?

@elisabethandersen1102 2 года назад

When has Alex Jones ever been wrong?

@nosuchthing8 2 года назад

@@elisabethandersen1102 lizard people?

@elisabethandersen1102 2 года назад

@@nosuchthing8 yeah okay, I'll give you that. He's right about geopolitical stuff though!

@TheEvilCommenter 2 года назад

Good video 👍

@hithru 2 года назад

This was an incredible video!

@cazualtk6133 2 года назад

4:00 in and you got me tryin to clean my phone screen lol. Love your vids!

@sarysa 2 года назад

Supposedly Thomas Watson returned the medal he received and positioned himself firmly against the beast he created. Not sure that's good enough.

@theprogrammer1 2 года назад

Allegedly

@russellfitzpatrick503 2 года назад

By then he'd made well enough to let his conscience guide him

@K9TheFirst1 2 года назад

Would you have rather he'd done nothing at all?

@mittensfastpaw 2 года назад

@@K9TheFirst1 Just saving face isn’t something to be applauded.

@loveluclins 2 года назад

Should have just tried the CEO of IBM for warcrimes lol.

@KingJohnMichael 2 года назад

Technically he contributed to war crimes How he and IBM didn't got thrown in court is baffling to me

@gamesman0118 2 года назад

@@KingJohnMichael Money buys a lot of things. Politicians, judges, media silence and edited histories.

@emr6153 2 года назад

@@KingJohnMichael how did Werner von braun become not only an American citizen but a hero after clearly being a nazi? Easy, the United states needed him, so all was forgotten/ forgiven!!

@trivialtrav 2 года назад

@@emr6153 Von Braun joined the party out of necessity. It was the only way to continue towards his goal of spaceflight. That was his singular life goal and it's unlikely he was a fervent anti-Semitic rank file file member of the party. He would have been killed if he tried to leave and towards the end of the war that's exactly what the Nazis tried to do. He chose to surrender to the U.S. and give his knowledge to them. At most he's guilty of self preservation. He could have resisted, but that would have put his life and dream at risk. Being too afraid to risk your own life to help others is in no way the same thing as condoning or participating in the abuse of said people.

@LENZ5369 2 года назад

I mean the US was sheltering and employing literal Nazi war criminals; as in torturers and mass murderers, including the torturer of Rene Carmille -Klaus Barbie.

@senpaiishere3848 2 года назад

Me a current IBM employee: Do I work for an evil organization?

@jacobduhthrowbak3226 2 года назад

Would you guys consider making a video about the different resistance groups of the second world war? I'd watch the hell out of that!

@uprebel5150 2 года назад

Remember the All In The Family episode where the Social Security punched a hole in the wrong spot one this card which pronounced him dead. Ah, the days of punch cards. Hanging chad anyone?

@SirXCornflake 2 года назад

Rene Carmille was a hero of the highest degree. He fought for no glory or personal gain, but for humanity itself. I only hope to live up to a fraction of this man's greatness

@Mrgunsngear 2 года назад

Thanks

@JJ0360 Год назад

Thank You!

@Crazt 2 года назад

IBM only leased the machines never sold them and this was considered wrong in 1917. Now completely normal in 2021 but these companies will never admit it.

@IggyStardust1967 2 года назад

Hey, Simon, as far as this channel goes.... and computers that "changed the world", you should delve into the Commodore computer company, and how it's Commodore 64 really put computers into the home for the causal user, and their later acquisition of the Amiga computer helped revolutionize not only the home computer, but usage and innovation of computers overall.

@remo1366 2 года назад

...and how digital video production and FX was thrust into the future when they established their partnership with Newtek and introduced the video toaster and Lightwave 3d. Just got rid of my 64's and I already miss 'em.

@IggyStardust1967 2 года назад

@@remo1366 I know how you feel, man! While I still have all of my old Commodore computers, none of them are currently functional. Also, I have to ask you......... is "Remo" a reference to The Destroyer novel series?

@Hawk1966 2 года назад

I'm old enough that I remember my folks getting bills with IBM punch cards in them and the ubiquitous "Do Not Fold, Spindle or Mutilate" on the envelopes.

@od1452 2 года назад

Now.. there's a Hero. Thanks for finding this story.

@christianbolt5761 2 года назад

The big question is how much did IBM know about the totality of the Nazi monstrous actions. That is no excuse though, as they had made lots of known international crimes by this point.

@prisonguardgus Год назад

At some point they realized how bad things were and that no amount of discussion was going to change the direction. Watson returned his medal. IBM was fully bought into ending the war making M1 carbines, BARs, and norden bombsights for the allies, all for very little profit. Watson's son (TJ Watson Jr) was a B24 Pilot in the Army Air Force during WW II. Odd the video leaves all that out (but has several errors that look like they were copied from another erroneous website lol).

@craigcampbell5937 2 года назад

Today I found out about another hero, and corporate villain of WWII. Thank you! We all know of the Ford and GM factories, but IBM being more than complicit but active? Staggering!