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How the New Republic Defeated THRAWN at Bilbringi | Star Wars Battle Breakdown 

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On today's Star Wars Legends Battle Breakdown, we look at how the New Republic defeated Thrawn's Empire at the Battle of Bilbringi.
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The Battle of Bilbringi was the final engagement of the Thrawn Campaign, and saw the New Republic, led by Admiral Ackbar and supported by Rogue Squadron, defeat the Galactic Empire, led by Grand Admiral Thrawn and Captain Pellaeon. How did it happen? Find out today!
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@EckhartsLadder
@EckhartsLadder 6 лет назад
Hope y'all enjoy! Drop a like on the video for more Battle Breakdowns! Prior episodes: ru-vid.com/group/PLPcRSJDFb1lk7-7ursFJL_Qvuzk7sxPsG
@gc6096
@gc6096 6 лет назад
Cool intro
@owenhildebrandt2175
@owenhildebrandt2175 6 лет назад
EckhartsLadder I like the outro
@MCLegend13
@MCLegend13 6 лет назад
EckhartsLadder can you make more of the videos can the Star Wars galaxy survive outside threats I have an idea the Star Wars galaxy vs the Dalek Empire during the time war
@gc6096
@gc6096 6 лет назад
I would like to See Thrawn in Episode 9.
@timbartschwolfman
@timbartschwolfman 6 лет назад
Gilberto Cortez Intro is awesome
@TheGoodluckjonny
@TheGoodluckjonny 5 лет назад
I think here we see the one weakness of Thrawn: Micromanagement. If I remember correctly, he does that almost every time he's in command of a fleet. Thus, once he was killed by his bodyguard, his fleet simply couldn't win anymore because they probably didn't even know the complete plan. Of course, this micromanagement is also one of Thrawn's strengths.
@LiamCameron77
@LiamCameron77 4 года назад
The one thing I like more about the new Thrawn is that that he makes sure his crew understands his methods and can operate withought micromanagement by thrawn.
@SJHFoto
@SJHFoto 4 года назад
I agree to a point. I think that Thrawn was so far ahead of the other captains/officers strategically speaking, that they wouldn't have known what to do. Yes, he left a battle plan for his clone in the Hand of Thrawn duology, but even if Pelleon had access to that, he would know what the next step was in the war, but not how to handle unexpected events (like the Rebels getting access thru the Golan Platform to attack the station. Thrawn was saying that this was fixable, but before he could continue, Rukh killed him. I think Thrawn could have reclaimed victory, but no one else could have. In fact, from all other books, evidence shows that Pelleon is probably the 2nd smartest in the fleet, and he was clueless. A lot of the others might have just mindlessly threw themselves at the Rebels and been defeated-especially since Ackbar and Bel Iblis are probably smarter than any imp commander sans Thrawn But also, if Thrawn was given that Super Star Destroyer, I think the Rebels would have been finished
@Iknowtoomuchable
@Iknowtoomuchable 4 года назад
Ironically, he ended up falling into the same trap as ol' Sheev.
@marckrieger3277
@marckrieger3277 4 года назад
@@LiamCameron77 Read the first new thrawn book, didn't like it, for me the old bokks are better. But you are absoulute right, thrawn should hat made sure to share his knowledge, build up a successor. Old thrawn did not do that, new one does.
@ryanhawe8234
@ryanhawe8234 4 года назад
@@marckrieger3277 Well, Legends Thrawn did not do that for the Empire proper -- but Voss Parck was continuing the good fight (and had orders to keep doing so in the Unknown Regions on behalf of the Chiss Ascendancy and the Imperial confederation in that part of space), along with Soontir Fel. They too only had part of the plan, but they had enough.
@bengrace8808
@bengrace8808 6 лет назад
This video was so... artistically done.
@TheMainTagonist
@TheMainTagonist 6 лет назад
ChunkyLover ataoldotcom its thrawns last words sir
@crook7493
@crook7493 4 года назад
CorphishySituation lmaoo
@thealpaca18
@thealpaca18 4 года назад
Good one
@youngsmitty347
@youngsmitty347 6 лет назад
Easy. They got lucky after Thrawn was murdered by his own bodyguard.
@aleksatrifunovic9227
@aleksatrifunovic9227 6 лет назад
Logan Smith obviously
@MadSkull
@MadSkull 6 лет назад
Because PLOT demands it!
@LAV-III
@LAV-III 6 лет назад
Zoloft77 I actually hoped he would kill thrawn
@darthnox72
@darthnox72 6 лет назад
Zoloft77 thrawn isn't dead yet Dave Filoni confirmed it
@Zoloft77
@Zoloft77 6 лет назад
Darth Nox Very good to hear. A live film or animated film about the fate of Thrawn, Ezra and Ashoka would be awesome...... if Kathleen Kennedy keeps her grubby hands off it.
@thorshammer7883
@thorshammer7883 6 лет назад
EU numbers are far better and realistic than Canon numbers. In canon numbers apparently WW2 had more death then a full galactic war. EU numbers of deaths are in the billions and that's realistic in a galactic war with the population of quadrillions.
@KraNisOG
@KraNisOG 6 лет назад
Thor's Hammer the galaxy population was something like 3 quadrillion. At LEAST 1 billion should've died
@thorshammer7883
@thorshammer7883 6 лет назад
Killerninja Over 700 Trillion died in the war with the Yuuzhan Vong.
@nateslattery932
@nateslattery932 4 года назад
1 more point for eu is that Alderaan was destroyed with all of its people that should at least be 5 or 6 billion people
@alrightkewl8235
@alrightkewl8235 3 года назад
Not the turbolaser power numbers though lol
@Endie7274
@Endie7274 3 года назад
@@nateslattery932 not all were killed, Imperial Troops came from Aldeeran. And a couple of Transport ships have to be rescued, carrying Refugees from SW: Squadrons having come from Aldeeran.
@EpaminondastheGreat
@EpaminondastheGreat 6 лет назад
I believe we all agree that Admiral Ackbar was an extremely fortunate commander. He had fully taken Palpatine's bait at Endor, got his fleet into a precarious position where he was facing decisive defeat and only prevailed because of Ewoks, and because Palpatine and Vader were killed during the battle. Just 5 years later, Admiral Ackbar is once again outsmarted, this time by Grand Admiral Thrawn, who saw through his diversions, and prepared to annihilate the New Republic fleet which he almost did, since just like Palpatine, was killed during the battle, giving Ackbar the chance to turn the tide of the battle. Generally, Ackbar is the only general I 've seen that escapes "traps" in which ironically has already fallen into.
@Paerigos
@Paerigos 5 лет назад
Ackbar was a competent commander who planned well... unfortunately he was not good at field improvization. If he ran from Endor he would be wiped by iterdictors... (Lando was the person who persuaded him to keep on) He could not run from Bilbringi... And well - even at Ebaq 9 he did not expect Vong to make mad suicide run against Ebaq... when things dont go according to plan, Ackbar is the last person you want in command. Garm Bel Ibliz, Wedge, Tycho Selchu, even Drayson... they can improvize. Ackbar not really.
@Ares99999
@Ares99999 4 года назад
@Paegrios I don't think any of this is very fair to Ackbar, especially as this based on the Legends version. In Legends, its outright stated that Ackbar was pivotal in building the Alliance Fleet from virtual scratch, using small-scale raids and battles to systematically season and harden his forces while always keeping the majority of it whole. He wanted to run at Endor not because of any cowardice, but because he felt that losing the main fleet would cripple the Alliance irreparably. Once Lando convinced him, he fought tenaciously and kept the fleet together. I distinctly remember that the Imperial commanders fell for Ackbar's trick... except for Thrawn. Pelleon clearly thought Bilbringi was the wrong move, for instance. So it's not like Ackbar didn't create a solid plan, he just went up against the one guy who saw through it. However, while the Republic Fleet was being pressured, unlike other battles it was still holding its ground due to Ackbar commanding. Yes, Thrawn likely would have won, but not without suffering far more casualties than ever before. Ackbar was old and outright dying during Ebaq 9, and refused command even thought it was offered. It was also because of him that the situation was ultimately turned against the Vong. Give the guy a break, will ya?
@The_Murder_Party
@The_Murder_Party 3 года назад
@@Ares99999 I mean my read is that he’s an above average admiral up against One. One of the most powerful beings the SW universe has ever seen, and if memory serves, a precognitive psychic capable of interacting with objects a galaxy away Two, one of the most brilliant admirals this universe has seen, a SW Hannibal Barca if you will, And three, a species who no one had fought before, let alone heard of, capable of unknown things, and a new way of fighting. It’s not that he’s a bad admiral by any stretch, it’s just that he’s constantly outmatched I’m frankly unfair ways.
@cuntpoopoo2968
@cuntpoopoo2968 3 года назад
Obviously not only was he lucky but he was also the second smartest admiral in the star Wars
@justinlast2lastharder749
@justinlast2lastharder749 3 года назад
Garm Bel Iblis was better suited against Thrawn. But, Ackbar does redeem himself at Ebaq against the Vong. Tsavong Lah got baited into doom.
@StarWarsGoldfish
@StarWarsGoldfish 6 лет назад
Did you use a Paris class unsc ship as one of the smugglers hahaha
@chaosindustry2279
@chaosindustry2279 6 лет назад
Tweekergoldfish I noticed it the second it was shown
@joshkraft1170
@joshkraft1170 6 лет назад
I saw that too
@danielalford6872
@danielalford6872 6 лет назад
That’s awesome! The UNSC has joined the New Republic.
@AlphaFoxDelta
@AlphaFoxDelta 6 лет назад
Tweekergoldfish MAC that like button
@thehungryhorntail5730
@thehungryhorntail5730 6 лет назад
Didn't see this post until I made one of my own
@corwinhyatt519
@corwinhyatt519 6 лет назад
If it wasn't for the Nohgri bodyguard turned assassin the Republic fleet was toast.
@metalc.s3170
@metalc.s3170 5 лет назад
Shoulda used droids instead
@nonyabuisness6642
@nonyabuisness6642 5 лет назад
@@metalc.s3170 To be fair, they were supposed to be undoubtedly loyal. Every body guard has faults, he just got unlucky as hell. And it's the only reasonable way for the most competent man in Star Wars to die
@bagelmaster2498
@bagelmaster2498 5 лет назад
Samu nonyabuisness I agree and I also think that the only other way he could have been killed was by a sniper as he was too smart to be in a cqc fight
@Julian-pw5mv
@Julian-pw5mv 4 года назад
@@metalc.s3170 well droids can be hacked, so that wouldnt be fool proof either
@metalc.s3170
@metalc.s3170 4 года назад
Julian@ good point... but droids can be predictable even when hacked. So he might have a chance to react quick enough
@videocrowsnest5251
@videocrowsnest5251 5 лет назад
Somehow I imagined when he said "Cloaked Asteroids" Thrawn just having a good giggle in his mind about a bunch of Invisible space rocks zooming about smashing enemy ships with them not able to figure out 1. What hit us. 2. Where did this big powerful thing that hit us come from? I mean it's a really smart tactic and a very good one to annoy and troll your enemy. Just one which if you think about it is a pretty oddly funny one. Cloak a bunch of Asteroids and have them fly about and torment your enemy....let alone around their Capital planet. Thrawn sure is one good tactician and likes trolling his enemies... Truly a wise combat leader!
@wargrizzero5158
@wargrizzero5158 3 года назад
It was a brilliant ploy. The historically in and out of canon, the Republic doesn’t make good decisions when their capital is attacked. He blockaded a whole major planet by putting invisible rocks in their orbit and making them keep their planetary shields up, with no idea they’d even eventually destroyed all of them.
@Pintobeans678
@Pintobeans678 2 месяца назад
He also used false tractor beam emissions to make the rebels believe there was hundreds of cloaked asteroids around couruscant when there was actually only 22
@Danny-yo8kp
@Danny-yo8kp 6 лет назад
I love how even in death he wasn’t really “beaten”, his side just lost after he was assassinated by his bodyguard
@peterhellman4271
@peterhellman4271 Год назад
“Expect a Defeat Wherever the Grand Admiral Attacks in person. Attack And Defeat his lieutenants Wherever You can”
@darthveatay
@darthveatay 6 лет назад
“History is on the move, Captain. Those who cannot keep up will be left behind, to watch from a distance. And those who stand in our way will not watch at all” -Grand Admiral Thrawn
@rakaman27
@rakaman27 5 лет назад
How they defeated him? They didn't. He was killed by his bodyguard.
@Endie7274
@Endie7274 3 года назад
Thrawn had forgot to turn off Friendly fire.
@gregorylumban-gaol3889
@gregorylumban-gaol3889 6 лет назад
In the end of the battle, the Imperials lost a few escort ships and only one badly damaged Star Destroyer. However, Ackbar’s fleet was decimated with the majority of his ships damaged or destroyed. I believe if Thrawn had survived and defeated Ackbar, this would’ve convinced the other warlords to fully back him. I have no doubt Thrawn’s aim was to gain the support of the Pentastar Alignment because they have the biggest avaliable fleet. I’m not sure if Delvardus, Harrsk, or the Teradoc Brothers would join him but because of Zsinj’s connections with Thrawn, I can see the remnants of Zsinj’s fleet who joined the various warlords abandon their positions to join Thrawn. Loyalists like Admiral Teren Rogriss may see Thrawn as a legitimate leader for the Empire and gather as many forces to join Thrawn. Now that his fleet now includes the Pentastar Alignment fleet and the various warships from other warlords that joined him, I can see Thrawn making a beeline to capture Coruscant and the shipyards at Kuat. This will shatter New Republic morale even if they don’t capture the New Republic leadership. Let us remember that the Empire had an unknown number of Bellator, Assertor, Mandator III, and other unknown classes of Star Dreadnoughts. I have no doubt that Thrawn would make their capture a priority. We would likely see a duel between the Lusankya and the Reaper but with Thrawn in command, he would probably have plans to capture the Lusankya instead of destroying it. Once the New Republic was dealt with, he would turn his attention to the warlords and give them an ultimatum. Join or die. Even if they join him, Thrawn would either keep them around to see if they’ll change, or eliminate them to avoid any chances of a power struggle.
@nikolasrhine3252
@nikolasrhine3252 6 лет назад
Read the chapter in "The Last Command" again. Pellaeons view at the beginning of the assassination scene makes it clear that the battle is going south and the New Republic forces are closing in on them. Even if Thrawn survived, the New Republic would have taken Bilbringi and with the destruction of Mount Tantiss, Thrawns campaign would be over. No outside force could bounce him back from the dual disaster of Bilbringi and Wayland.
@gregorylumban-gaol3889
@gregorylumban-gaol3889 6 лет назад
Nikolas Rhine It was going south because Thrawn was no longer issuing commands and they went into disarray. The New Republic fleet was already decimated before Thrawn was assassinated. Pellaeon doesn’t give himself enough credit. He was capable of destroying the rest of the New Republic forces with just sheer numbers but was hesitant to lead them. Again, by the time Pellaeon issued the retreat, the Imperials had minimal losses while the majority of the New Republic forces were either badly damaged or destroyed. The New Republic didn’t win this battle, Rukh was the sole reason why the Imperials lost.
@KraNisOG
@KraNisOG 6 лет назад
Nikolas Rhine as he said above, the other warlords would be likely backed him, and if they hear he defeated Akbar, they'd have given him more. You give Akbar too much credit, and Thrawn not enough. Pealleon said that Thrawn would've won, but he was no Thrawn.
@eternal5930
@eternal5930 4 года назад
"How the New Republic defeated Thrawn" Uhh... That doesn't compute. Uh wait, uh... Your under arrest!
@itsyvonblitz6819
@itsyvonblitz6819 3 года назад
I smell...clankers
@awhahoo
@awhahoo 3 года назад
@@itsyvonblitz6819 WATCH THOSE WRIST ROCKETS
@JimmyCasket84
@JimmyCasket84 6 лет назад
I love Star Wars Battle Breakdown
@MrDrProfessor4
@MrDrProfessor4 6 лет назад
I know this would be difficult, but can you breakdown what is by far the largest space battle in the whole franchise? *The* *Battle* *of* *Yuuzhan'tar!* I have made this request: eight times.
@TylerMatthewHarris
@TylerMatthewHarris 6 лет назад
MrDrProfessor4 dude that would be sweet
@KMCA779
@KMCA779 6 лет назад
I'm not sure there's enough details. It made the previous 2 battles for it look like a couple kids with foam swords. I think the Fall of Coruscant would have been better.
@wildchrisman1494
@wildchrisman1494 6 лет назад
You should do the battle where the Iron Fist is "destroyed."
@KitchenSinkSoup
@KitchenSinkSoup 6 лет назад
WildChrisman The Battle of Selaggis I believe.
@brandonseff6044
@brandonseff6044 6 лет назад
WildChrisman you mean dathomir?
@wildchrisman1494
@wildchrisman1494 6 лет назад
Brandon Seff no, the battle in the seventh x-wing book where they thought they destroyed it, but Zinj used trickery to fake it’s death. The Iron Fist was actually destroyed at Dathomir.
@joshk96
@joshk96 6 лет назад
All the Battles in that Campaign!
@danielpucher3367
@danielpucher3367 6 лет назад
All those X-wing novels lost... like tears in the rain.
@Revan-vk2ld
@Revan-vk2ld 6 лет назад
Simple thrawn died that's how they won
@nikolasrhine3252
@nikolasrhine3252 6 лет назад
Even if Thrawn had not been assassinated, the New Republic would have won the battle, and even if Thrawn escaped, the loss of Mount Tantiss would have been the end of his campaign anyway.
@TheSzymax
@TheSzymax 6 лет назад
Nikolas Rhine They wouldnt have won. They still were outgunned and blocked from entering the hyperspace. I personaly think that Thrawn would have just given up on the shipyard and destroyed the rebel fleet. And the loss of Mount Tantiss wouldnt be that big of a deal since at the time of Thrawns death half the galaxy was back under the imperial rule so the aditional manpower would be very easily be found there.
@DecryptGamer
@DecryptGamer 6 лет назад
TheSzymax ppp
@KraNisOG
@KraNisOG 6 лет назад
TheSzymax and likely after the victory more of the moffs would give Thrawn ships and troops.
@TheSzymax
@TheSzymax 6 лет назад
Killerninja Even better, if Thrawn won he would easily capture Coruscant since Republic would've lost 2 entire sector fleets.
@user-Jay178
@user-Jay178 6 лет назад
Thrawn was defeated?
@btdchalupa1455
@btdchalupa1455 6 лет назад
Gerardo Reyes yup
@richardgaldos6901
@richardgaldos6901 6 лет назад
Not really. He was winning the battle when he was suddenly murdered/assassinated. He really didnt lose the battle as he died before that battle was over and everyone knew he was winning.
@ProtomanButCallMeBlues
@ProtomanButCallMeBlues 6 лет назад
Thrawn "concedes" defeats. He's always been carefully written. He also "lost" to Tyber Zahn, but got what he wanted after the loss.
@williamnixon3994
@williamnixon3994 6 лет назад
In legends he never truly lost, he's always gotten something from his battles up to his death
@ProtomanButCallMeBlues
@ProtomanButCallMeBlues 6 лет назад
He did lose thoughstarwars.wikia.com/wiki/Space_Battle_at_Carida
@user-Jay178
@user-Jay178 6 лет назад
I love these battle breakdown and it is always amazing and good. Great job and video. Also great intro
@craigfox6870
@craigfox6870 4 года назад
I wish thrawn would have survived. His military genius during the vong invasion would be invaluable to the galaxy.
@DONTworryIgotTHIS
@DONTworryIgotTHIS 5 лет назад
I thought this was such a more fitting ending to Thrawn rather than the absolute bs we get in Rebels.
@jurajsintaj6644
@jurajsintaj6644 4 года назад
How did he die in rebels? I never watched that show.
@lololoololdudusoejdhdjswkk347
@lololoololdudusoejdhdjswkk347 4 года назад
Juraj Sintaj doesn’t die, he gets tangled up in tentacles by space whales and is thrown into unknown regions
@jurajsintaj6644
@jurajsintaj6644 4 года назад
@@lololoololdudusoejdhdjswkk347 huh. Thanks for the info. The more I learn about this show the more I dislike it.
@jackm.7094
@jackm.7094 4 года назад
The show as a whole isn’t bad, but some aspects of it are. It does have Ahsoka, Rex, and Maul, and other pretty cool characters, and the story is okay.
@Yoko_Grim
@Yoko_Grim 4 года назад
I really wish Thrawn survived. He was such a mastermind, and if he had been truly defeated, I'm sure he would have surrendered, but shook hands with the New Republic leaders. Telling them it was a good fight, based on the "Who is Grand Admiral Thrawn" video.
@jimdigitalvideo
@jimdigitalvideo 6 лет назад
I've read the novel and the comic. It's good to finally see a Battle Breakdown of it. In the novel I remember shortly after Thrawn was killed and the battle was getting out of control, Pellaeon was thinking 'Thrawn could still turn this into a victory, but I am not Grand Admiral Thrawn'. He then ordered the fleet to retreat.
@Altronza
@Altronza 6 лет назад
NIce Intro, Nice Outro. Nice video. And Heeeeey, that is where I killed thrawn in Thrawns revenge... What a coincidence.
@Altronza
@Altronza 6 лет назад
Also if you did a sub series of this with the yu zong vong. It would be cool
@tallerstond8105
@tallerstond8105 4 года назад
How many ships did you need
@jebsilvey3761
@jebsilvey3761 6 лет назад
Love the videos, thrawn is my favorite Star Wars character
@nerowulfee9210
@nerowulfee9210 6 лет назад
"Gentelmen?" - Rukh
@TheSzymax
@TheSzymax 6 лет назад
Love your vids. I think that was a fitting end of Thrawn. He died doing what he was best at, he never lost a battle and he was closest of all the bad guys to breaking the plot armor.
@xavyan89_55
@xavyan89_55 6 лет назад
Thrawn ... its unusual of you to lower your defenses
@willhooks2636
@willhooks2636 6 лет назад
I want freaking 3 movies on thrown he is the coolest imperial I love him so much
@thatgamer1185
@thatgamer1185 6 лет назад
Please use this style of video to explain how you would siege holy terra or Imperial Coruscant with a fleet of various universes Cramer together. Use your create a fleet rules and assume there is a resource shortage. I love when yo examine battles but I think you could use your talent to create amazing battles.
@illusiveman1613
@illusiveman1613 6 лет назад
That Gamer yes pls
@georgelabe-assimo4365
@georgelabe-assimo4365 6 лет назад
>siege Holy Terra Oh boy...let the heresy mongering begin lol
@MCLegend13
@MCLegend13 6 лет назад
I am loving your new intro it's awesome great video btw
@metalc.s3170
@metalc.s3170 5 лет назад
Basically thrawns bodyguard turned out to be his biggest weakness in legends
@mastermickman4388
@mastermickman4388 6 лет назад
All ships present at the battle of coruscant vs the byss fleet during shadow hand. By the way I love the new intro!
@fristnamelastname5549
@fristnamelastname5549 5 лет назад
Thrawn was killed during the battle. How could Thrawn have lost?
@Xjag
@Xjag 6 лет назад
Thrawn is my favorite character and I feel like theirs not enough details about him he’s so awesome
@robertoguzman6556
@robertoguzman6556 4 года назад
2:38 Cortana, how the hell did you get the Dawn over here
@lukekrivosh4033
@lukekrivosh4033 6 лет назад
Love the video mate battle breakdowns for life❤️
@DrownedInExile
@DrownedInExile 4 года назад
Ah yes, Thrawn looked at some art once done by Admiral Ackbar, and magically deduced his plan. The Thrawn series was really well-written, but some of the ideas were just plain dumb. I was getting really sick of him magically being right every time. It would have been nice to see a genuine miscalculation on Thrawn's part, and see him hastily try to improvise.
@Thunderous117
@Thunderous117 6 лет назад
Man didn't remember the smugglers ever having a Charon class light frigates 😂 In all seriousness Keep up the good work Ps I can see karde getting his mits on something from another universe entirely the man was darn resourceful if nothing else
@docartemis2878
@docartemis2878 6 лет назад
I’m late to the party on this, but I loved Thrawn’s end. It just fit so well to me. This grand strategic genius who had woven a massive web of lies, strategy, and war, brought down by the one element he failed to consider. He assumed that Rook was going to be loyal, that this simple savage warrior couldn’t possibly see past the lies he had told.
@RRRanTV
@RRRanTV 3 года назад
This Battle is canon. Not that Dark Mouse fancrap trilogy
@jamestruelove-ralph3753
@jamestruelove-ralph3753 6 лет назад
Can we have battle brake down for other syfy like halo and battle stargalactica
@tigersebel
@tigersebel 6 лет назад
he did alreday one for halo. but i agree. i would also like more of them
@howard2liu
@howard2liu 5 лет назад
I've never understood what happened at the end of this fight. So Thrawn ambushes the Republic fleet and starts pulverizing it. Wedge muses that threatening the shipyards would force the Imperials to either A) divert ships from the ambush and let the Republic escape, or B) lose the shipyards. The smugglers break out and the shipyard is threatened, Thrawn is killed, and apparently Pellaeon chooses option C: run away and fail both objectives. If they were going to withdraw, surely the logical place to retreat to would have been the shipyards they wanted to protect, with those scary Golan platforms, but no, it seems they just left. Was it that Pellaeon and everyone besides Thrawn just don't know how to fight? Did they stage the ambush with an inferior force, counting on Thrawn's tactics to win the day? Did C'baoth's death hurl all the Imperial crewers into confusion like at Endor? It just seems like the fight jumped from "Republic looking desperately for a way to escape" to "Imperials trying to get away before they're destroyed," and Zahn didn't really explain what happened to eliminate the Imperials' numerical advantage. I originally thought that maybe I'd misread it because of unclear writing, and the Republic fleet did run, leaving Bilbringi in Imperial hands, but after looking it up, apparently the Imperials really did give up and leave.
@giorgiobandos4021
@giorgiobandos4021 3 года назад
Who is excited to see Thrawn on the next Mandalorian episode?
@pll3827
@pll3827 6 лет назад
If I recall in the Yuuzhan Vong war, they discovered a cloaked Golan II Defense Platform located at Bilbringi. It was probably another surprise known only to Thrawn that he could have activated to defeat the New Republic.
@Dankdank1800
@Dankdank1800 6 лет назад
I’m Liking these battles my dude
@MapleLamia
@MapleLamia 6 лет назад
How the Empire could have won at Endor, even without the Death Star II. Or with. Or both.
@thedarkknight727
@thedarkknight727 6 лет назад
I love that new intro. That X wing pilot most be like: What type of space port is this. 😅
@carion2116
@carion2116 5 лет назад
Ok I have a question and a battle strategy. Did the Empire or Thrawn uses mines? In this battle Thrawn had Interdictor star destorys to pull the the alliance fleet out of hyperspace. Thrawn knew that the alliance was coming, why not mine the area the interdictor would pull them out at?
@lewisrobinson5154
@lewisrobinson5154 6 лет назад
I had hoped you'd cover this one:)
@jonasb104
@jonasb104 6 лет назад
LWR1812 1221 A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
@michaelscherer6416
@michaelscherer6416 3 года назад
I just got done listening to the audiobook Thrawn Trilogy. This particular part where Thrawn dies made me sad. He was such an awesome villain. Didn’t see it coming. Loved the books
@playboipatrick
@playboipatrick 6 лет назад
One of the Smuggler ships look like a Paris Class frigate from Halo
@itsyvonblitz6819
@itsyvonblitz6819 3 года назад
Honestly I don't like how Thrawn died. It would've much better and cooler if he was kissed by another admiral who had outsmarted him, like actually outsmarted and out manuevered Thrawn. I think that would've been a better death for him. But nope, just gets pew pewed in the back Julius Caesar style.
@owenhildebrandt2175
@owenhildebrandt2175 6 лет назад
First... Maybe
@Jay-629
@Jay-629 6 лет назад
Yep!
@owenhildebrandt2175
@owenhildebrandt2175 6 лет назад
Jay yeet first time
@neighslayer768
@neighslayer768 6 лет назад
Deus Ex Machina. That's how. Next battle suggestion: Imperial Fleet at Endor vs. The Dominion Fleet at DS9
@grandadmiraldragonone3625
@grandadmiraldragonone3625 6 лет назад
Number 3 viewer
@jaydincole3116
@jaydincole3116 Год назад
I love Star Wars space Battle and. My name is Jaydin cole and I am autism. I’m Artist and I from the Australians and I just make my Star Wars crossover space Battle my artwork and is lovely to meet you
@raihanarifian5619
@raihanarifian5619 6 лет назад
Smugglers mvp
@barrybend7189
@barrybend7189 6 лет назад
Best Transforming fighter: VF-11 thunderbolt from Macross plus vs the Union Flag from Gundam 00 vs the Viking from StarCraft vs the Mecha Tengu from Command and Conquer vs the Legioss from Genesis Climber mospeda.
@ottoman_reenactor_ct
@ottoman_reenactor_ct 6 лет назад
Nice new intro ECK!
@charliepenfold3604
@charliepenfold3604 6 лет назад
I'd say that was the best way Thrawn could've died, he couldn't conquer the New Republic because heroes, and he couldn't be defeated in a fleet battle.
@KushSalad
@KushSalad 6 лет назад
Recusant Class Light Destroyer vs Something
@blairjohnson5833
@blairjohnson5833 6 лет назад
Frothy Walrus I like it
@derpynerdy6294
@derpynerdy6294 3 года назад
The problem with the empire is they need to teach the officers tactics and strategy
@edenjung9816
@edenjung9816 6 лет назад
#bringbacktheoldintro I liked the old one more.
@TylerMatthewHarris
@TylerMatthewHarris 6 лет назад
What was the old intro?
@odsttrooper3724
@odsttrooper3724 6 лет назад
Tyler Matthew Harris (there wasn’t)
@TylerMatthewHarris
@TylerMatthewHarris 6 лет назад
Haha. Yeah I was like huh? What don't you like about this one?
@fathanpratama6008
@fathanpratama6008 6 лет назад
But the Outro tho XD
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
In Canon Thrawn has the most unworthy end ever. Space whales
@ThatOneGuy46696
@ThatOneGuy46696 6 лет назад
You don't need a twenty second intro.
@aidenrussell1272
@aidenrussell1272 6 лет назад
Erndem Sterff Prederctions nah the intro is funky af
@TylerMatthewHarris
@TylerMatthewHarris 6 лет назад
Hey I made it. Was looking to see what you thought might be better.
@ThatOneGuy46696
@ThatOneGuy46696 6 лет назад
The animation is fine as its own thing, but cutting it down to five seconds would be better (if at all possible). His title card is absurdly long, however. That doesn't need to linger for ten whole seconds. At most, it really needs two or three.
@TylerMatthewHarris
@TylerMatthewHarris 6 лет назад
Erndem Sterff Prederctions alright cool. Thanks for the ideas
@infiniteapex9859
@infiniteapex9859 2 года назад
The republic won because of their plot Armour And of course Thrawns death
@sfk1066
@sfk1066 5 лет назад
Read this series as a kid and it's cool to see Bilbringi being discussed and modeled. :)
@razvandobos9759
@razvandobos9759 4 года назад
This should've been the sequel trilogy.
@Electru522
@Electru522 3 года назад
Honestly, this feels like one big cop out. Over the years, the writers wrote themselves into a corner with Thrawn. How do you beat the unbeatable? Simple....you don't. So, they had to come up with a very cheap, round about way to bring down Thrawn. This can be saved, however.....just like the Exhaust Port plot hole in episode 4. This "bodyguard" could be a Rebel Alliance assassin that had to work his way up the ladder until he finally was in range of the most untouchable person the Empire had at it's disposal. And thus, he would finish the job when Thrawn's attention was on a very important battle. This would make Thrawn's "So artistically done" line hit that much harder. And now that I'm writing it out......I'd actually like to see this story come to fruition. But, it does look like Thrawn is going to play a role in the Mandalorian or Ashoka's show. So....we'll just have to find out.
@stahl1624
@stahl1624 2 года назад
“Very cheap roundabout way” You mean like real life, where things can and will be simple and there is nothing special about it. Stalin, who killed millions, dies of a stroke. Rommel, shoots himself. You and a lot like you have to have some spectacular thing happen to someone all of the time, especially if they are like Thrawn which just shows you are incapable of actually understanding what nuisance is. I also find it hilarious that you complain about how he met his end at the hands of the writing, but you don’t complain about how the writing was “just as shoddy” when writing him to be this wizard tactician, when in a matter of fact, they just wrote his opponents to be retarded. Talk about putting both fingers in each ear and shouting lalalalala because you can’t handle the truth.
@colehamm7881
@colehamm7881 6 лет назад
Thrawn was not really defeated, he was killed before the battle really even began.
@sorcererberoll4641
@sorcererberoll4641 5 лет назад
They didn’t his bodyguard won the battle by killing him
@ethanrose1782
@ethanrose1782 6 лет назад
While I love your new intro I do have one request/question. Can it be a little shorter, it seems a little long for an intro.
@pwnorbepwned
@pwnorbepwned 5 лет назад
Thrawn’s last words, “but is was so artistically done,” are they him lamenting that his tactics were so artistic yet it’s all over, or was he praising Rukh’s assassination?
@ninacohen4324
@ninacohen4324 4 года назад
Rukh's assassination
@Superhrnet
@Superhrnet 6 лет назад
I'm surprised that Palleon was so eager to signal a retreat, considering how much he is venerated later in Imperial history. I wonder if there was less cohesion and/or professionalism among the imperial rank-and-file than what was implied to the reader from just The Last Command.
@SubduedRadical
@SubduedRadical 6 лет назад
I'm kind of curious if they're going to continue to use Trawn. In the series finale of Star Wars: Rebels, he and Ezra are pulled into hyperspace, but the ending of Rebels implies that Ezra is still alive (hence Ashoka finding Sabine and leaving to search for him), but it stands to reason that this means both of them are alive...somewhere. Sabine and Ashoka begin their search after the Battle of Endor. It's kind of curious, then, what happens to Thrawn in that time interval, if he lives, and if he does, what becomes of him after that point. Even with magical hyperspace whales, presumably at some point or another, they will return to normal space. I'm kind of curious where in the timeline that would end up being (time-space being a little wonky so it's possible it could be quite some time later), and how that woud bear on the later/new trilogy time period.
@Artymusey
@Artymusey 3 года назад
How Rebels beat Empire --> "plot armour"
@Gigas0101
@Gigas0101 6 лет назад
You know what battles Thrawn would've studied to improve himself? Battle of Tukayyid Siege of Autobot City Assault on a baoa qu (UC 079) I'm requesting these to improve your channel and your viewer's lives.
@franciscoreveriano1818
@franciscoreveriano1818 6 лет назад
Thrawn was not defeated!!!! Good job but read the book.
@mrcleanit4760
@mrcleanit4760 5 лет назад
The smugglers had a Paris class frigate
@kylexwlsn8372
@kylexwlsn8372 5 лет назад
#askEck This is like towards the end of the galactic civil war right? With thrawn leading what's left of the empire, like around the time of the battle of jakku, or something? I don't know much about legends! Ok, that's a long question. I mean, when does this happen?
@Masso-gy9yu
@Masso-gy9yu 6 лет назад
Think you can do a comparison video? Who's the more effective soldier 'A Pilot and there TITAN' from the TITANFALL series or 'A Spartan II (possibly with an AI)' from the Halo series
@StarBornMichael
@StarBornMichael 6 лет назад
(24th request) 1 CAS Class Assault Carrier with 4 CSS Class Battlecruisers and 4 SDV-class heavy corvettes VS 1 Bellator Class Super Star Destroyer (yes i look it up and the Bellator Class has Fighters about 100 of them) 4 Imperial 2 class Star Destroyers and 4 Dreadnought Class Heavy cruisers (theses ships use to be Victory 2 class Star Destroyers but that would give the Empire too much an edge in the battle so i made them Dreadnought class Heavy cruisers instated too make it equal in a way)
@rolfgrell4783
@rolfgrell4783 6 лет назад
Make this a Galactic Versus episode: STAR WARS 2M Saber tank vs. HALO M820Skorpion tank vs. COMMAND AND CONQUER GDI Mammoth MK III I'd love to see which of theese tanks comes out on top.
@mr.gentlezombie8709
@mr.gentlezombie8709 6 лет назад
It's important to remember that the asteroids over Coruscant were dealt with just before the battle thanks to Karrde knowing that there were only 22.
@vanessapierce8220
@vanessapierce8220 6 лет назад
Yuuzhan vong world ship vs high charity and it’s fleet
@hk4124
@hk4124 6 лет назад
So they didn't defeat him at all, like so many before him he was betrayed and assassinated.... If the empire could just stop killing eachother they would have ruled the universe a long time ago.
@thedarkknight727
@thedarkknight727 6 лет назад
My theaory of what if Thrawn would have won this battle: The resurrected clone Palpatine would probably come back and "REMOVE" Thrawn from his throne permanently. Bringing the Galaxy back into terror and oppression. 🤔😟
@TheYoungOwl-2003
@TheYoungOwl-2003 3 года назад
To be honest I'm disapointed about Thrawn's death. He can create a battle master plan just by staring at art but he can't anticipate his own guard actions?
@SudrianTales
@SudrianTales 2 года назад
This is actually pretty realistic
@TheYoungOwl-2003
@TheYoungOwl-2003 2 года назад
@@SudrianTalesI mean that genius it's anti-climatic
@SudrianTales
@SudrianTales 2 года назад
@@TheYoungOwl-2003 betrayal was a common tactic to kill commanders plus Thrawns biggest issue is he can't throw anything out. He knew his bodyguard was acting strange, he knew C'baoth was insane and so on. Thrawn was a fool at the end of the day and he created his own defeat by being too clever
@VinceYT2408
@VinceYT2408 5 лет назад
It's honestly the most disappointing ending I ever read. It's too easy and eventhough Thrawn died, such a fleet would have a few admirals to lead the squadrons and the senior one would take command...and would wreck the New Republic fleet. Yeah, they would loose some shipyards...but would obliterate the whole fleet, blocked by the interdictors. But it was more easy to say "Thrawn dies, Republic wins ! End of the book". Problem is that the author is not a strategist at all. How the New Republic won ? Thanks to being the good guys during the last battle of the trilogy.
@godzilla5006
@godzilla5006 6 лет назад
Could Godzilla Earth invade Starkiller base please 117th try.
@jonathanmarcus1096
@jonathanmarcus1096 4 года назад
In my own personal opinion, I've never really liked Thrawn. I think he's very overrated, but he does objectively have some strengths. I just think he has a lot of weaknesses that get overlooked, in both Canon and Legends
@SpreadingtheMuse
@SpreadingtheMuse 4 месяца назад
Meh. Thrawn was killed too easily. And his line of "artistically done" is ghastly overrated.
@JCDentonCZ
@JCDentonCZ 6 лет назад
The Thrawn trilogy is great but as a fan of huge space battles, I had hoped for a much more comprehensive battle with far more losses on the New Republic's side at the least. I also find it odd for Pellaeon to retreat, giving up some very valuable shipyards. You'd think with Thrawn's brilliance, he'd have a secondary fleet on standby to deploy behind the New Republic Fleet once they started to believe that the New Republic could win the battle. Perhaps more tricks and feints. But well, even Grand Admiral Thrawn cannot defeat the Author.
@donluchitti
@donluchitti 6 лет назад
I've known of Thrawn since I played Tie Fighter back in the 90's but never got far enough into lore to really know his story so I"m coming from a nonthrawn fanboy perspective: This battle wasn't so much won by the New Republic so much as it was simply lost by Thrawn imo. I personally find the fate of the battle tied to thrawn's death as kind of silly since they looked so out numbered.
@itsyaboidaniel2919
@itsyaboidaniel2919 6 лет назад
Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars Universe (All Eras and Races Combined) 15th Attempt
@jacovo974
@jacovo974 6 лет назад
Do the final battle against the yuuzhan vong (against new republic/emp. Remnant etc.)
@TheKingofbrooklin
@TheKingofbrooklin 3 года назад
Pellaeon really screwed up here. Even without the expertise of Thrawn he could have hold the current battleline and allow the ships to keep firing. Even by risking the shipyards during this battle.
@shadowhell8378
@shadowhell8378 6 лет назад
From all i heard about thrawn to be assassinated by his bodyguard dose not feel right i think he should die in combat being defeated by a superior strategist everything I hear about him it was the best strategist to be interfered by someone better with a better strategy not just sheer numbers or luck would be a great end to him. We don't want great warriors dying by sickness or of old age we want them to fall in battle against a great foe. And if this is not canon then keep him alive for the silver screen.
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