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How the Occult Transformed Philosophy & Spirituality 

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Following centuries where Platonic Forms and Ideas were taken to be eternally real, the middle ages saw a dramatic shift. And, by the mid-14th century, metaphysical categories were taken to be mere words, names - hence, Nominalism. However, this philosophical triumph of Nominalism would be short lived. In the mid-15th century, discoveries and translations of ancient texts would give rise to a Realist Revolution led by Platonism, Hermeticism and Kabbalah. This episode explores how this Realism brought on the occult philosophy transformed western philosophy and spirituality.
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@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 месяца назад
Consider Supporting Esoterica! Patreon - www.patreon.com/esotericachannel Merch - ru-vid.com/show-UCoydhtfFSk1fZXNRnkGnneQstore New to Studying Esotericism? Check out my Reading Guide here - docs.google.com/document/d/1caKNlW7sogEF7lAeYNbOQF9pt5O5b70yAXa-icUJO3o/edit?usp=sharing Rare Occult Books - www.esotericaoccultbooks.com/
@Amy-gf7je
@Amy-gf7je 3 месяца назад
Thankyou kindly, also would you have any dates in mind for part two of the reading list? (Sorry to hassle) ‘Freemasonry, Illuminism, Philosophy and the Occult, the English Occult Revival, the French Occult Revival, and, perhaps, Traditionalism, Mesmerism, Spiritualism, among other contemporary topics.’
@robertdobie3400
@robertdobie3400 3 месяца назад
I'm a philosophy professor and just this last semester I offered at my university a travel-study course called, "Esoteric Amsterdam," where, along with traveling to the Biblioteca Hermetica Philosophica in Amsterdam, I had my students read alchemical and mystical texts by authors such as Paracelsus and Boehme and then looked at the reverberations of this tradition in modern thought on, reading texts from Swedenborg, Schelling, and Steiner. The students loved it, I had a blast, and I hope to offer the course again. So this is one philosopher who does not ignore this tradition!
@Costaricancretin
@Costaricancretin 3 месяца назад
Aw man I wanna go on that
@frankcipriani1882
@frankcipriani1882 3 месяца назад
Thank You for introducing the vocabulary of Renaissance Realism and Scholastic Nominalism as the historical evolution from Platonism and Aristotle. Also the rehabilitation of language with Magic and Kabbala which fits in with my respect for epistemology, second only to metaphysics in the soulless academic world controlled by the “satanic Central European Central Bankers.
@revennui
@revennui 3 месяца назад
Do you mind sharing your reading list?
@jeanbherer-simard7189
@jeanbherer-simard7189 3 месяца назад
Swedenborg ❤❤❤ I wonder if there is a lineage from ascent mysticism up to him, quite the esoteric explorer.
@robertdobie3400
@robertdobie3400 3 месяца назад
@@revennui Not at all: I start with Antoine Favre's book, "Western Esotericism"; I then assign readings from "The Alchemy Reader" (the "Emerald Tablet," Plato, Aristotle, Geber, Roger Bacon, Albertus Magnus, Nicholas Flamel, Paracelsus, Robert Fludd, Elias Ashmole, et al. and the entire "Clavis" of Jakob Boehme; we then travel to the BPH in Amsterdam; after our return: selections from Swedenborg's writings, Schelling's "Philosophical Inquiry into the Essence of Human Freedom," then selections from Jung's writings on alchemy and psychology (though my assignments of more contemporary esoterica is always very much in flux). Hope that helps!
@jonnyk4669
@jonnyk4669 3 месяца назад
after growing up religious, renouncing religion, and being athiest for a while, i have recently began studying the occult and utilizing metaphysical concepts to find a 'spiritual' balance in my life and it has completely changed my perception of everything. love this channel and this video is illuminating and affirming!
@BlackJesus8463
@BlackJesus8463 3 месяца назад
Have you heard of stoicism?
@jonnyk4669
@jonnyk4669 3 месяца назад
@@BlackJesus8463 ive stumbled upon the phrase but don't know much about it just yet. i'm in my learning era, i'll look into it
@Dovahkiin0117
@Dovahkiin0117 2 месяца назад
@@BlackJesus8463did ole boi opium Aurelius inspire ya
@gawagai
@gawagai 3 месяца назад
Ex-philosophy major here, I am absolutely here for the academic philosophy slander.
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 месяца назад
slander implies what I'm saying is false :)
@gawagai
@gawagai 3 месяца назад
@@TheEsotericaChannel FAIR, my first language is French, sorry But, I do agree with every criticism you gave to academic philosophy.
@rusu989
@rusu989 3 месяца назад
@@treesoul00 🤣
@matthewcollins3887
@matthewcollins3887 3 месяца назад
@@TheEsotericaChannel how about Trash-talk? Or how about long overdue, much deserved criticism?
@genghisgalahad8465
@genghisgalahad8465 3 месяца назад
​@@gawagaicastigate, denounce, lambaste?
@anthonyspencer766
@anthonyspencer766 3 месяца назад
Hi, Dr. Sledge. I am one of your 'philosophy people.' I just wanted to compliment you on (and thank you for) a concise summary of ancient philosophy that doesn't suck. It was highly informative without rambling, and you didn't talk just to hear yourself. The role played by occultism in the resurgence of realism was something quite new to me. My education is admittedly sparse in that area. I know more than many of my peers, but I would sit like a kid with my chin in my hands, just listening, around you and @ModernHermeticist. In my experience, if you get any history of philosophy in the medieval period in departments in (most of) the anglophone world, you pretty much jump from Aquinas to Descartes; from there, medieval metaphysics is mostly abandoned, and the de facto 'beginning of western philosophy' shifts to the debates between empiricism and rationalism. Forget the Renaissance! Renaissance who?
@ceviche37
@ceviche37 3 месяца назад
Superrational Prophetic Intercourse would make a decent band name
@alwilliams5177
@alwilliams5177 3 месяца назад
Sounds more like an album title to me but I hear ya.
@kevincrady2831
@kevincrady2831 3 месяца назад
Or a strain of weed...
@MilesP757
@MilesP757 3 месяца назад
A Bill Laswell album. ​@@alwilliams5177
@smillstill
@smillstill 3 месяца назад
But I guess it's merely for entertainment purposes. Most scholars don't think its was a temple business anymore ... unless it was with the king once a year or something.
@MilesP757
@MilesP757 3 месяца назад
@@alwilliams5177 yes, a bill laswell album
@c.s.hayden3022
@c.s.hayden3022 3 месяца назад
The occult is kind of an odd mix of psychology, philosophy, and mythology. Now we have things organized into separate disciplines for the sake of focus and occult thinking is easily dismissed as faith based superstition, but there are still insights and merits. It definitely helps if you’re creatively inclined.
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 3 месяца назад
Superstition boils down to a slur. Magical and magic-adjacent practices logically follow from certain metaphysical axioms, some of which are non-falsifiable. "Superstition" is but a pejorative used to casually and reductively dismiss the practical conclusions of alternative metaphysical premises than the speaker adopts without actually critically analyzing them. From an absolute empirical baseline, where naught non-falsifiable is assumed, we are uncertain if ourselves and the world we perceive actually exist to begin with.
@concerninghobbits5536
@concerninghobbits5536 3 месяца назад
Both of these comments are really excellent wordings of some of my thoughts on this. I just mentioned something similar in my own comment to the idea of superstition being non-falsifiable but you gave a better reasoning of WHY it's non-falsifiable from a meta-physics standpoint. I low-key forgot about the concept of meta-physics since I took a philosophy intro like 6 years ago or maybe longer. But that's a good term I was missing to explain the fact that we don't know a lot of things outside the scope of how we define "knowing" under the assumption that the world exists and is all that we think it is and nothing more.
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 3 месяца назад
@@concerninghobbits5536 You probably want to add epistemology to your lexicon as well, then (assuming it was not already in there). To put it in terms Sledge has so wonderfully-put before, superstition belies epistemological hubris. A magical operation predicated on premises later falsified does not necessarily mean the people were stupid, irrational, shallow in their thinking, willfully blind, or otherwise deserving of contempt or derision. We know for a fact that our understanding of material science is categorically not exactly correct and not comprehensive and some of our surrounding beliefs and behaviors based on the current limits of our understanding will inevitably prove misguided in hindsight. Where it concerns traditional magic, while some of the underlying premises we now know to be empirically invalid, the jury is still out for plenty others in which a form of what we might call magic could hypothetically be possible.
@concerninghobbits5536
@concerninghobbits5536 3 месяца назад
@@nevisysbryd7450 had to refresh myself, metaphysics I remembered but haven't been using but epistemology I had actually forgotten, we did talk about it in my one class but I guess people say metaphysical a lot more in day to day life. There are definitely a lot of possibilities for things we don't know/things we don't know that we don't know, which could absolutely change a lot. I wonder if that transition would be slower now as we get more advanced since it becomes harder to find anything new until a groundbreaking discovery is made? But yeah I suppose epistemology is maybe more important or relevant to nominalism while metaphysics are more in line with realism. Nominalism not really having any defined metaphysical "real" things outside of just whatever the human experience is, and realism being dependent on existing and real concepts (created by god or something similar?).
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 3 месяца назад
@@concerninghobbits5536 Nominalism and realism are different metaphysical positions rather than one opposing metaphysics. Metaphysics is the branch of philosophy concerned with the nature of reality at the conceptual level. Eg, Physicalism is a specific metaphysical claim (that valid metaphysics are exclusively physical) as much as Plato's Theory of Forms and Emanation Theory. Language created by the divine is one option, though rarely what those theories our forward. Realist schools of thought are usually predicated on an assumption that the symbol used for language itself either animate, an emanation of or able sympathetic to and thus able to invoke a transcendent quintessence or entity, or otherwise somehow a tangible expression of or interface to some transcendent phenomenon or essence. They usually assume that the specifics of the symbol are not arbitrary but somehow encoded into or at least interfaced with an objective layer of reality itself rather than an artificial construct, even by divine proverbial hands.
@samzamrik4939
@samzamrik4939 3 месяца назад
It's very refreshing to see this kind of content, on RU-vid or anywhere in general! To the point of examining occult philosophies within their historical context: I've had a few heated arguments with Thelemites after saying that Aleister Crowley was an orientalist (and a very typical one at that) riding the very tail end of the British Empire and egyptomania, and that that's undoubtedly influenced Thelema. I had a similar problem trying to explain who Aleister Crowley was and why he might be relevant to the discussion to my philosophy/cultural studies professor.
@marcelhoermann8213
@marcelhoermann8213 2 месяца назад
As a Thelemite this made me smile a lot. It is indeed a child of its time.
@miahconnell23
@miahconnell23 3 месяца назад
Dr. Sledge: I adore your channel and you presentation style. You are a great orator, a great explainer, a great researcher, and a great guy.
@meidson12
@meidson12 3 месяца назад
It's sad because the majority of believers don't actually want to learn the academic side of the occult and most of the non-believers don't even take the subject seriously because they [wrongly] mistake Academic Occult Studies for supernatural religious beliefs. EDIT: I thought it was obvious this was about the mass majority of both groups, so I wasn't cautious about my wording. I edited to make it clearer.
@Rednilsunwood
@Rednilsunwood 3 месяца назад
That can be difficult. Modern laymen and popular figures of science do it a discredit by way of assuming it’s the ultimate way to view all things that happen in the world and cosmos at large; the most human. It stared into voids its technology wasn’t ready for, and in doing so became the dogmatic beast that it itself sought to free modern man from the shackles of monotheism. Furthermore, if we could put say- Sandalphon, in lab settings and verify their existence, we’ve reached a stark and cold day for humanity. We’ll have abandoned the child inside instead of walking hand in hand with them. In the words of the late Terry Pratchett, “Humans need fantasy to be human. To be the place where the fallen angel meets the rising ape.” Fantasy isn’t just dalliance, it’s the freeing play of eternity, the coming back to ourselves.
@Caseyuptobat
@Caseyuptobat 3 месяца назад
Pretty big generalization about current practitioners there.
@stop.juststop
@stop.juststop 3 месяца назад
Add “majority of” and your statement is instantly more accurate.
@eleanorblake697
@eleanorblake697 3 месяца назад
This also centralizes 'belief' as the primary axis of difference between practitioners and non-practitioners, which isn't so accurate. At the same time I do agree with the vibe of your post in a fuzzy way
@dobyk5338
@dobyk5338 3 месяца назад
I'm an atheist and yet I think the subject is fascinating just from a philosophical perspective. You'll be surprised by how many atheists are actually interested in this.
@MangiTiVi
@MangiTiVi 3 месяца назад
I’m astonished. We (Italy) have mandatory class of philosophy in high school and even adolescents have their fair share of medieval philosophy.
@kendallkirkham238
@kendallkirkham238 3 месяца назад
Now I'm astonished. And envious. I'm technically guilty of being a witch just for watching this video, where i live. I think that's why i cannot get enough of Dr Sledge, Foolish Fish, let's talk about religion. I've been sheltered from this HEDONISTIC knowledge my whole life... and i don't want my kids to suffer the same ignorance
@byrondickens
@byrondickens 3 месяца назад
Oh, do we ever need that here in the US!
@Arthur69Schopenhauer
@Arthur69Schopenhauer 2 месяца назад
That’s cool. In the USA it’s required to have no philosophy, and watch a lot of television shows and listen to lame brainwashing music growing up, and eat lots of unhealthy foods.
@SamiKarvinen
@SamiKarvinen 3 дня назад
Yeah I was surprised to hear the intro. Here in Finland academic philosophy is very acquainted with the medieval period as well. The bachelor-level courses I took in Jyväskylä were constantly discussing scholasticism and you couldn't get through most courses without some mention of Aquinas. An introductory course to the history of philosophy spent about four or five lectures on medieval thought, where I remember we talked at length about neoplatonism specifically, for example. There is a fair amount of research in medieval philosophy also published here. I don't think I've seen a class in my uni on it, but there is some academic literature being written that deals with the occult as well. It comes mostly from history and theological departments though.
@darkflow7773
@darkflow7773 3 месяца назад
I keep coming back to this channel for the depth and style of delivery, so eloquent so well thought out and delivered with a brilliant sense of style
@flowerpt
@flowerpt 3 месяца назад
I'm enjoying my time at the Sledge Graduate School of Philosophical Studies.
@prestonrizor6887
@prestonrizor6887 3 месяца назад
Just wanted to say, I don't have a spiritual bone in my body, but keep reading books that draw heavily on mystic themes. I've often tried to read about things like tarot and alchemy, but struggled to stay interested or remember what I'd read. However, been watching your videos for the past couple months, and you manage to keep me engaged and entertained in a topic I normally struggle with. Thank you very much for doing these videos for us!
@Canario_27
@Canario_27 3 месяца назад
This video is not only a great introduction to the history of the ocult but a great lesson on the history of philosophy
@inef85
@inef85 3 месяца назад
your script writing is fire, thank you
@Mike-wt2xs
@Mike-wt2xs 3 месяца назад
Sorry to hear about your training! After listening to your intro, I felt very lucky for the philosophy seminars I had. Medieval and religious philosophy courses at my undergrad and courses on mysticism and a variety of courses like that in grad school. As a professor now, I make sure to include these topics and influences as much as I can. Thank you for always giving me more wisdom to share
@paulogryzek4740
@paulogryzek4740 3 месяца назад
Of all your videos I have seen, this was my favorite. As soon as it was over, I watched it again. Something about these ideas hit me as massively profound in a way I cannot explain. No one has ever been able to sum up the idea of magical philosophy in the High Middle Ages like this for me. I think my path is altered as a result of watching it. Thank you for your work.
@jasonkinzie8835
@jasonkinzie8835 3 месяца назад
Philosophy major here. No Medieval philosophy courses were offered in your philosophy department?! You should have come to the University of Alberta. I took an early Medieval philosophy course there and not only did we talk about Medieval notions of mysticism we actually had a guest speaker who claimed to have had mystical experiences.
@siriusfun
@siriusfun 3 месяца назад
Brilliant, Justin. And long overdue. Thank you for your ongoing efforts. Very much appreciated. Cheers from Toronto.
@infinitumneo840
@infinitumneo840 3 месяца назад
Thanks for your important work.
@oxyghene
@oxyghene 3 месяца назад
surprised to hear this. Aggripa and Mirandola, just the first two you mentioned, not to mention the entire Medieval canon: had classes on all of it here in Brazil during my phil phd. Aggripa is often mentioned in epistemology classes, even have a good friend who wrote a diss on him.
@Bildgesmythe
@Bildgesmythe 3 месяца назад
It would be interesting to see if it's a European/American thing. Perhaps culture effects areas of study more than we realize?
@Occultinforment
@Occultinforment 3 месяца назад
Beware those who seek answers, some truths are more scary or overwhelming then the human heart can bare
@alexander777-n3s
@alexander777-n3s 2 месяца назад
@@Occultinforment lovecraft wrote a great passafe about that.
@DanielFranch
@DanielFranch 3 месяца назад
Fascinating video! I'm not very familiar with the thinkers you talk about beyond your videos and some other brief "secondary sources" of people mentioning them, so I'm sorry if my questions are misguided, but did the philosophers in this "Realist revival" that came with the Renaissance present arguments for Realism or was it a more descriptive endeavor of showing what are the linguistic universals that shape reality and how they do so? Did they mostly rely on Plato's (and neoplatonic) arguments and ran with it or did they provide new arguments for Realism and rebuttals for Nominalism? Were these rebuttals more experimental, by showing their mystical experiences and magical experiments that would confirm that a Sacred Language does indeed govern the world?
@CarnivoreYoghurt
@CarnivoreYoghurt 3 месяца назад
I had to rewind to make sure I heard it right - no class on MEDIEVAL PHILOSOPHY??!!! What??!! It's like studying mathematics without algerba...
@CrazyPablo44
@CrazyPablo44 3 месяца назад
Realism lives!!! (Even if it’s just Mathematical Platonism in cosplay). Great episode Doc Sledge!
@ConQuestInteractive
@ConQuestInteractive 3 месяца назад
I tried to like this video at three separate points in the video. Thank you again.
@thegreatermysteries4134
@thegreatermysteries4134 3 месяца назад
Same here, haha.
@robertwalker-smith2739
@robertwalker-smith2739 3 месяца назад
In my freshman year Western Civilization survey course, we had a nickel tour of this area. I remember the lecturer referring to Pico della Mirandolo as 'a teenager who wanted to be an angel'. Funny, the things that stick after all these years.
@MilesP757
@MilesP757 3 месяца назад
Haha, Greg Kaminsky's Celestial Intelligences was crucial for my understanding the interelationship of Kabbalah/Qabalah and that Pico was referred to as "a teenager who wanted to be an angel" would be funnier if not for the fact that so many teenagers openly prefer to embody what is traditionally seen as demonic.
@naomiseraphina9718
@naomiseraphina9718 3 месяца назад
I always experience a wry chuckle when I hear the world "enlightenment" to describe what, in the west, is basically materialism, whilst in the east, the term refers to the transcendent state that a human may reach at which point he/she discovers that the world, universe, reality itself, is actually nothing more than consciousness. In the opinion of this occult autodidact, it's the people of the east who got it right. Speaking from experience, I can say that magic absolutely works, (my favorite occult quote of all time: "Magic always works. If what you're doing doesn't work, then it isn't magic.) and somehow I doubt that reality would be so easily bent to the human will if it had an independent material reality. What else could it be than consciousness. For my money, philosophical theories are a fine way to pass the time while drinking a pint with friends, but all the clever jargon in the world won't help you cure an "incurable" disease, or deflect bullets with your will. For that you need magic. You were absolutely right (you usually are,) when you said that the bulk of people studying the occult have never given a damn about what the academics think of their great luminaries. We haven't, don't, and probably never will. Still, it gives me a lovely heartwarming feeling to hear somebody with your caliber of scholarship actually say what a shame it is that the occult philosophers are ignored by academia. It is a shame, but then, do we really want professors and their ilk learning how to cast spells, read minds, fly, etc.?? All the best, N.
@redoktopus3047
@redoktopus3047 3 месяца назад
​@@AkivaMerkavah It literally took until the materialist writings were rediscovered after thousands of years before human progress in Europe was made. It is so insane how many people still push idealist philosophies. Europe has still not recovered from Plato's damage.
@tonioene2262
@tonioene2262 2 месяца назад
How can you be so sure of people doing all those things that bend so intensely the habits of the universe? Maybe it was, is and/or will be a possibility, but how do you have certainty that that is consistently done by some people especially nowadays?
@Doom4u2
@Doom4u2 3 месяца назад
Nothing better than to ponder the rational and philosophical on a Friday night with a new video from esoterica. Thank you Professor!
@ohad157
@ohad157 3 месяца назад
Man... I wish i had you as a philosophy prof at my uni
@sororlava6999
@sororlava6999 3 месяца назад
Your work is phenomenal. I know I've said it before, but it bears repeating that I appreciate all that you put out for the world on these topics!
@WicksKE
@WicksKE 3 месяца назад
This is such a great video! It put so much together for me. I can’t believe I never made the connection between renaissance spirituality/humanism and platonism. Amazing stuff.
@MikeWiest
@MikeWiest 3 месяца назад
Fascinating, thank you! As a philosophical dilettante whose interests have leaned toward the mind-body problem, I have to redefine “realist” for this discussion. That is, you’re talking about realists regarding “universals” as opposed to metaphysical realism about the physical world and idealism and panpsychism about consciousness or mind…
@aNerdNamedJames
@aNerdNamedJames 3 месяца назад
19:05 - "irrational 'Enlightenment Rationalism' infused..." 19:12 - "I'm very pro-Enlightenment!" It would rock so hard if we got a Dr. Sledge upload of just continuous ranting about how painfully the term Rationalism is misused today (maybe even touching on how many of its current invokers, like the "effective altruism" crowd, would make our guy Spinoza roll in his grave). Would rock so hard.
@ahtullos
@ahtullos 3 месяца назад
OMG. This is such a helpful underlying concept to a bunch of things I have been studying. Makes much more sense now. Thank you!!
@moormanjean5636
@moormanjean5636 3 месяца назад
Another amazing video! Thank you Justin for your tireless work to uncover the lost philosophy of the past. This video really helped me contextualize the role of occult in influencing mainstream philosophy.
@scottmarsh2991
@scottmarsh2991 2 месяца назад
Amazed by your ability to speak “plain” English about difficult material.
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 2 месяца назад
If you can't communicate clearly it's probably a sign you don't know what you're talking about. Glad, you enjoy the content!
@thegreatermysteries4134
@thegreatermysteries4134 3 месяца назад
Awesome episode. I'm definitely hear for this sort of topic. One of your best, sir.
@a.6900
@a.6900 3 месяца назад
i wish i could grasp the linguistic stuff but it just goes way over my head
@davieboy3814
@davieboy3814 2 месяца назад
Thank you for all your great work.
@liveeyetv
@liveeyetv 3 месяца назад
Love your work. Very inspiring! I will return to this channel again and again.
@mdlahey3874
@mdlahey3874 3 месяца назад
A clear & stimulating exposition, as usual... Many thanks! 🙏🏻
@shix13
@shix13 3 месяца назад
what i love about this channel is hearing how no matter what period of history you pick there are people who believe how they see and explain the world is absolutely true. yet we look back and think 'how could they ever believe that?". then I wonder, in the future what beliefs do we have now that will be scoffed at.
@jasonmelstad
@jasonmelstad 3 месяца назад
interesting correlation between hermeticism and the rise of realism as represented through geometry. the current resurgence of Egyptian biogeometry, which holds that subtle vibrational energies can be harnessed, contained within shapes (eg soundwaves) that determine its function, as demonstrated in the work of Dr. Ibrahim Karim, seems to score major empirical points for the realism camp
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 3 месяца назад
To some extent. Sound is a physical phenomenon. How related the meaning humans associate as corresponding to a sound pattern is another matter that does not necessarily follow from sound itself having an empirically observable effect.
@dsharpness
@dsharpness 3 месяца назад
cymatics...the geometric forms from sounds-sands on plate...my hair grows, but pine needles identically stop...Anton has some on the vibrations...
@lukefreeperson
@lukefreeperson 3 месяца назад
Fantastic video! Probably my favorite one yet. Very helpful for you to trace these philosophical threads through history and provide context for the popularity of hermetic and occult philosophy in the renaissance
@felix-zr3ds
@felix-zr3ds 2 месяца назад
would love an episode on sacred SWers/courtesans/priestesses etc in the history of esotericism!
@lapurta22
@lapurta22 3 месяца назад
Wasn't so sure I was going to care much about this episode, but once again, Dr, Justin triumphs. He's lent a width, breadth, depth and color to how these competing thought processes have influenced thinking since the Middle Ages right down to this very day.
@kerrywisner6589
@kerrywisner6589 3 месяца назад
Thank you. This is an outstanding discussion.
@matthewiskra771
@matthewiskra771 3 месяца назад
"The deeply philosophical position of... other". LOL A great episode, and honestly it helped me under philosophical realism better than my college courses oh so long ago. An aside: as a computer scientist (programmer, systems analyst, data scientist, etc.) I wonder if we all are pretty much secretly all philosophical realists since our abstract and synthetic languages cause physical effects. GOSUB "Part Red Sea" indeed. (yeah, it's in BASIC. For the rubes. Ya think I'd give an example in my preferred C++ and SQL?)
@ineffige
@ineffige 3 месяца назад
I had similar wonderings about Jung's concept of psychic facts. Yes they happen inside our minds, but they have real consequences
@inlesinlet
@inlesinlet Месяц назад
I don't understand why, though the entirety of my undergraduate degree in philosophy, *not a single professor* went like: "Hey! Plato thought concepts and ideas are real-real! Like they exist even if humans don't! Aristotle thought they are human-real, like they are made by humans to make life easier, like governments." It would have made my life so much easier. For someone, anyone, to bring the language down to earth just a little bit. I just remember sitting in lectures and seminars trying to grasp the concept of Forms, grappling with the idea that Plato thought there's some ideal perfect thing that's more perfect than the thing in our world that exists beyond our world that is actually the real thing in the real world and this is just a shadow of it all and thus not the real thing in the real world after all, but the real world doesn't have any kind of physicality to it, it is The Forms uwu. Writing, and reading, that sentence feels like trying to read one page of Hegel. Thankfully I didn't have him on my mandatory curriculum. It's been five years since I graduated and just now am I starting to feel like I can make sense of Plato (and Aristotle), thanks to this video and others like it. Can you believe I actually love philosophy? It gives me a headache 95% of the time, but I do love it. It's like an obstinate child. I was an obstinate child myself, so I'd know.
@aronbirtalan
@aronbirtalan 3 месяца назад
Amazing episode, Justin! Re. the current interest in realism: Coming from an arty / weird humanities bubble, I can testify how the ‘ontological turn’ with OOO and New Materialism, the inclusion of animism from indigenous voices plus more somatic/performative readings of language in queer, affect and black studies has def threw wood on the realist pile. In what seems an almost post medieval approach, language is most often taken as organic matter that matters us and the world as a whole.
@trotters5
@trotters5 3 месяца назад
This went so hard. Thank you. :D
@sophiashekinah9872
@sophiashekinah9872 3 месяца назад
Well, we've had to be autodidacts. Even then it was so hard to find anything on the "Occult", so we'd read whatever we could get our hands on. Especially if it didn't make your skin crawl. I was 21 when I found "Secret Teachings of All Ages" (M.P. Hall), and then 36 when I scored "Isis Unveiled" H.P. Blavatsky), but before that, Crawley (talk about skin "crawling) was about it; Anton LaVey was never anyone I was interested in knowing more about (Thank God!, pun intended). It's much easier to find information on "The Occult" now than it was 30 years ago.
@traviswadezinn
@traviswadezinn 3 месяца назад
Good presentation, good episode! thank you
@godisfake78
@godisfake78 3 месяца назад
Is it just me or does Justin's Voice have a calming effect?
@jacquelineleitch7050
@jacquelineleitch7050 3 месяца назад
Second time through. I expect couple of times more at least. So I am able to spin into the questions that I have and come back to it. Thanks for giving that kind of a lecture.
@michaelnesbit6447
@michaelnesbit6447 3 месяца назад
Thanks!
@kendallkirkham238
@kendallkirkham238 3 месяца назад
They see me summonin'... they hatin' That's the 3rd time I've laughed out loud in a coffee shop watching this. Brilliant.
@magusisrafael
@magusisrafael 3 месяца назад
hermes crispychristmas is my new band name!
@dantherpghero2885
@dantherpghero2885 3 месяца назад
I Love ALL Esoterica videos!
@makkurokokkuri
@makkurokokkuri Месяц назад
"crispychristmas" had me hollerin'
@Everything_I_Need_To_Tell_You
@Everything_I_Need_To_Tell_You 3 месяца назад
WOOO!!! Happy friday!
@olmgaijin9476
@olmgaijin9476 3 месяца назад
Loved this video!
@CheshireShade
@CheshireShade 3 месяца назад
I will say this because I do feel comfortable enough to say it. I have been searching for a long time on information that relates to the study of magic, history, religion, and spirituality. Your channel has never provided a video that has disappointed in this regard. The reason why I want to study this material so badly is because, for the longest time, it felt and seemed like there is a lot more to learn about spirituality than what is just in the bible. The bible is still a good book, but it most certainly is not the only book. It is also not just pure occult knowledge, which is a hodgepodge/minefield of bullshit and pseudo-knowledge. My biggest issue that the bible does not explain what a lot of the mysteries of God is, and how a lot of things work. My hunger for this knowledge throughout almost the entirety of my life has been a challenging pursuit, the biggest reason is a spiritual thirst for knowledge in asking the biggest question time and time again. "Why? and How?" Thank you Dr. Sledge, thank you for what you do! Thank you for providing free academic knowledge on this subject, recommending excellent reading material. For the first time in my life, it certainly feels like my spirituality and knowledge can both become one and I can spiritually breathe. And to think that I was seriously thinking about joining fressmasonry so that I could get knowledge in this regard, not even really knowing if most freemasons have this type of knowledge or not.
@colingallagher1648
@colingallagher1648 3 месяца назад
thanks for all of theses
@LordRoku-
@LordRoku- 3 месяца назад
rael
@EduNauta95
@EduNauta95 3 месяца назад
An episode on golem production needs to be done eventually!!
@kendallkirkham238
@kendallkirkham238 3 месяца назад
Dr Sledge has done an earlier episode on the use of the golem... I'm trying to find it. Don't Google it. Unless you're made of patience. I burned my finger swiping right, so to speak. I'll try to find the name of the episode.
@Bildgesmythe
@Bildgesmythe 3 месяца назад
The Dr has a great video on the golem, check his play list!
@clayclayton9819
@clayclayton9819 3 месяца назад
Yeah....started out loading hay trailers in Lauderdale before the internet. Now I'm watching a Dr. from Pearl, the best I can gather who, by the way, puts out the best content on RU-vid!!!!
@SPKonrad36918
@SPKonrad36918 3 месяца назад
Doc, your channel is amazing, love it when I get notifications about your new content
@SPKonrad36918
@SPKonrad36918 3 месяца назад
Your t-shirts are friggin awesome and was compelled to order a couple 🤘🔥🤘
@ghfudrs93uuu
@ghfudrs93uuu 3 месяца назад
I'd love to watch you do a review on the James Lindsay's lectures on hermeticism and gnosticism's influence on current philosophy
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 месяца назад
There are so many other and better ways for me to waste my time
@sizzaxe
@sizzaxe 3 месяца назад
One of my favorite episodes yet!
@zaggedout
@zaggedout 3 месяца назад
had to come back and like this banger cus I forgot
@ewinternetvideos
@ewinternetvideos 3 месяца назад
I went to grad school at a jesuit university and I am happy report that they did offer a medieval philosophy course. The topics the professor chose to cover were not my favorite, but still a win in my book!
@eightiefiv3
@eightiefiv3 3 месяца назад
Edward Conze weighed in on Nominalism here and there in the 1930s. Some interesting articles if you dig. Loved your video here. ❤
@notsae66
@notsae66 3 месяца назад
I, personally, firmly agree with the Nomenalists. I find the idea of Universals or kabalistic ideas of one of the many arbitrary arrangements of sounds and symbols we use to get across ideas and call language having power over reality profoundly narcissistic and narrow minded. To think a description of a thing could have power over the thing itself is fascinating, but ultimately speaks to a fundamnetally backwards understanding of what language is and what it's purpose has always been; to convey information, to describe, not to prescribe. However, that being said, I do think language does have a sort power that is almost magical; the ability to influence the thoughts and emotions of others. The right set of sounds, the right words in the right tone at the right time, and you can change the world more effectively and more broadly than any mage throwing fireballs or conjuring demons.
@Tridactyls
@Tridactyls 3 месяца назад
Have you looked into the Tridactyl Nazca Mummies? Their authenticity made me rethink occult and religion in a grand way.
@TheGatheringICP
@TheGatheringICP 3 месяца назад
Hello, I saw your logo "He Conjured" love the Maya people and the Mayan culture. I've come up with several different calendars that... I'm getting off-topic. Do you do any videos on their supernatural world?
@foxxxyben
@foxxxyben 3 месяца назад
Wonderful work as usual! Any chance on getting a citation for that 2020 survey?
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 месяца назад
survey2020.philpeople.org/
@LethalDragon1
@LethalDragon1 3 месяца назад
An excellent video, as always! I have not yet read Plato, but I have come across the neoplatonists sufficiently to decide that I am probably heavily aligned with him. The relationship between religion and philosophy is always muddy, and as you pointed out, there is a divide between the practitioners who want a religion and the scholastics who want a theory. I always enjoy your artifact collection... What are those nifty little patterned wooden boxes on the shelf to your right?
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 месяца назад
Japanese puzzle boxes!
@michaelshelton5488
@michaelshelton5488 3 месяца назад
The Cave and the Light, all about the history of the conflict between Plato and Aristotle in Western civilization is an amazing book.
@alreadyghosts7727
@alreadyghosts7727 3 месяца назад
Greetings from Catholicstan! Been enthralled by your channel for a couple years now. Greatly enjoyed this last one. OK, break's over. Back to studying mathematics.
@alaricgoldkuhl155
@alaricgoldkuhl155 3 месяца назад
Mathematics is the language of God. You're studying metaphysics.😉
@spiritualanarchist8162
@spiritualanarchist8162 3 месяца назад
Now I can imagine why 'occultism 'as such isn't part of a philosophy curriculum . But no Neo-Platonism ? That really surprised me.
@eldraque4556
@eldraque4556 Месяц назад
the way the occult was treated in my history of philosopy and science 101 at uni was to basically redicule it. I think we touched on sypahetic correspondece, how brains where cosidered to be related to wallnuts becuase they had a similar shape. This is going back 20 years, so thigs may have changed since then.
@dvklaveren
@dvklaveren 3 месяца назад
This just makes me think that The Elden Ring riffs on the Monas Hieroglyphica.
@simonemarcorini6730
@simonemarcorini6730 3 месяца назад
As always admirable work. I recently revisited your video on the mysticism of the death drive. Do you still plan to make a video on Schopenahuer and his idea that occult forces and magic are a prof of existence of the Will you hinted at in that video?
@PeterShieldsukcatstripey
@PeterShieldsukcatstripey 2 месяца назад
Makes sense remembering things - perhaps that is inspiration?
@ShadaOfAllThings
@ShadaOfAllThings 3 месяца назад
I guess my history teacher in 9th grade was just exceptionally based because he did teach us about the impact of Platonism, both the more "realistic" and occult versions
@Geminous1
@Geminous1 3 месяца назад
Another most elegant and important discussion. Again, THANK YOU!! ( I enjoy the Chopin, end of Nocturne, that plays at the beginning and end of every video. )
@Sugar3Glider
@Sugar3Glider 3 месяца назад
666k subscribers. I picked the right time to join 🐐🔥
@s.lazarus
@s.lazarus 3 месяца назад
Hello, Justin! Will you ever cover Nick Land's philosophy? Specially in the Famged Noumena era, his use and understanding of Kabbalah is wild.
@TheEsotericaChannel
@TheEsotericaChannel 3 месяца назад
I'd rather have jock itch.
@jenathent4840
@jenathent4840 3 месяца назад
Oh god no please don’t ask Him for that lol
@stelthtrekker9445
@stelthtrekker9445 3 месяца назад
I have one critique. Dr. Sledge said the word rewind when his finger was rotating fast forward. Lol
@Synkronist
@Synkronist 3 месяца назад
Lookin forward to this one.
@RJ420NL
@RJ420NL 3 месяца назад
Excellent episode.
@therongjr
@therongjr 3 месяца назад
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: I wish we could know how Christianity would have developed if it wasn't grown in a culture of Platonic realism!
@greggschwabauer6241
@greggschwabauer6241 3 месяца назад
This is why I’m here… as a pretty committed atheist and “realist”. Reaching for spiritual support is a decidedly human activity that I’m trying to acknowledge and understand better.
@TheSavageGent
@TheSavageGent 3 месяца назад
Sounds like a Platonic infused Pythagorean theology. Ironic since one of Plato’s most famous writing “Phaedo”(on the soul) was basically about running into a group of Pythagorean’s after Socrates execution, and basically schooling them on the idea of Forms and telling them that the math stuff is just another form but it’s not actually the “ultimate form” if that makes any sense. Philosophy is so hard to convey how intended bc a lot of the technical terms with extremely specific meaning and implications are just thrown around without meaning in most cases sadly lol
@joshuashoen14
@joshuashoen14 3 месяца назад
Thank you Justin!
@andymurray8620
@andymurray8620 3 месяца назад
That actually did surprise me. In an academic setting, would one consider Plotinus to be "occult?" I am guessing a modern Philosophy curriculum has a lot of Existentialism, Sartre and Camus, as well as other modern thinks like Nietzsche and maybe someone like Wittgenstein to rock the boat a bit? But without a good perspective on the history that underpins it all. But like I said, I'm very much guessing + going off the hints you have dropped. I'm reminded of Alan Watts' anecdote about university philosophers. He would remark how it was most uncouth for a philosopher to ever be caught "philosophizing" at work. And usually to a great laugh from his audience, he would point out that a modern philosopher would come to work in a lab coat "if he thought he could get away with it."
@nevisysbryd7450
@nevisysbryd7450 3 месяца назад
It is very common in academia to downplay or omit the less fashionably savory philosophical and theological positions and especially their practical and experimental logical conclusions of historical figures held in esteem for some of their work, yes. Academia is in almost all ages deeply entrenched in its etic fashions and highly disdainful of those it considers lesser or contrary. It is kind of the default position of humans by virtue of having a defined perspective and takes active work to overcome.
@Rydonattelo
@Rydonattelo 3 месяца назад
For some reason RU-vid didn't feed this to me when it first came out like it usually does with my subs that i watch routinely. I had to search myself to find this was up. RU-vid is bizarre with this stuff sometimes.
@stephend50
@stephend50 3 месяца назад
My very limited academic in philosophy was neoplatonism. It was for a gen Ed requirement. Art Sin and Faith.
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