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Mary Beard reaches back to the myths and legends of the origins of Rome to gain an insight into the deep-rooted psyche of the people of Rome - a city born through fratricide and r***. But from the very beginning, Rome was also an asylum for outcasts and exiles and because of this, it adopted a uniquely inclusive approach towards its neighbours and defeated enemies. The expansion of the city brought territory in first in Italy and Sicily, where Rome first came head to head and eventually defeated her great rival, Carthage.
Mary then travels to Greece, where Rome adopted a complex mix of brute force and cultural cringe, and France, where she finds evidence of war methods akin to outright genocide. In typical myth-busting style, Mary argues that the period of greatest Roman expansion occurred when Rome itself was little more than a provincial backwater, a shanty town of mud and brick. The marble, monumental Rome we know came about because of imperial conquest - not the other way round. And likewise, the creation and possession of an empire transformed the politics of Rome forever, creating the conditions for one-man rule, and ending the centuries-old Roman Republic.
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@RumMonkeyable
@RumMonkeyable 9 месяцев назад
Dr. Beard has many fans and a few critics. One critic recently posted that “she was too ugly to be on television”. She isn’t a fashionista (except for her phenomenal choice of shoes), doesn’t wear make-up or style her hair, and travels by bicycle most of the time. So, why do we like her? She is genuine, honest, and brilliant. She has opened the history of Rome like no other academician by the thorough presentation of facts and information. We like her because she tells it like it is (or was). She makes us think. Bravo, Dr. Beard, and thank you for helping us learn about ancient Rome, its peoples, and customs.
@dawnsellitti7968
@dawnsellitti7968 6 месяцев назад
I’m a glam girl lol, doesn’t mean my fav historian needs to be one. Love Mary Beard👏🏻
@keithcalder521
@keithcalder521 6 месяцев назад
Pity she hasn’t had her lips filled with Botox, then she could look like the brainless fungi called ‘celebrities’ who’ve never done anything more than stuck their own mug in front of a camera and pouted. Thanks Mary, for doing something useful by educating the rest of us.
@MrAhiggs1
@MrAhiggs1 6 месяцев назад
Mary Beard is far more knowledgeable, accomplished and radiant than the person who made those dispicable comment could ever dare to aspire to.
@ladyzapzap9514
@ladyzapzap9514 6 месяцев назад
If a person’s main critic of a historian is “they’re not pretty enough to be on TV”then i doubt they have an idea of what a historian actually does. XD
@stephenlight647
@stephenlight647 6 месяцев назад
If you love finding out about what a modern Lefty thinks about all the peoples of the past from her perch as a representation of our Very Moral Present, then sure, she’s your favorite. If you actually want to understand the past and the peoples who navigated their OWN times….not so much.
@L.C.Sweeney
@L.C.Sweeney 10 месяцев назад
I love how casually she just reads Latin. I know very intelligent people who have studied classics (and hence Latin) at uni and they say that almost all graduates really struggle to just read Latin without having to decipher it
@shadowk3
@shadowk3 2 месяца назад
Rosetta Stone has a class ;)
@robinanna5531
@robinanna5531 2 месяца назад
Interesting! Thanks for making me feel smart with my schoolgirl GCSE Latin!
@AledPritchard
@AledPritchard 10 месяцев назад
More of this series please. Mary Beard is bloody brilliant, fantastic, engaging, and I love watching her.
@GIBBO4182
@GIBBO4182 10 месяцев назад
Love Mary Beard talking about Rome, Joann Fletcher is equally as enthusiastic in her Egyptian documentaries if anyone is interested. Well worth a watch
@Dragon-Lady
@Dragon-Lady 10 месяцев назад
I second that. I hadn't seen Mary Beard before, but she seems pretty good. I've watched lots of videos with Joann Fletcher and she always delivers.
@robertferguson533
@robertferguson533 10 месяцев назад
Thanks. I’m going to check her out too
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 10 месяцев назад
Do I detect a crush?
@elizabethfrance3237
@elizabethfrance3237 10 месяцев назад
I've got both Mary Beard and Joanne Fletcher mixed in with episodes of Time Team. Add in my daily fix of brown bears catching salmon at Brooks Falls in Katmai, Alaska and I have no time left for politics or the fear-mongering national news!
@OtaBengaBokongo
@OtaBengaBokongo 9 месяцев назад
she's a silly brit liberal
@slbgray2743
@slbgray2743 6 месяцев назад
Mary aligns a lot and draws one into each part of each video. Captivating diction and punctuating on character studies. She is truly admirable.
@gorcirithiel
@gorcirithiel 9 месяцев назад
Mary Beard is an absolute Legend!
@mickeybecraft5965
@mickeybecraft5965 9 месяцев назад
Mary you are a world treasure. You have a way of giving a highly visible imprint in ones mind when you explain past civilizations . Almost like you were their. Your brilliant.
@frederickhart2242
@frederickhart2242 10 месяцев назад
Omg awesome narration.....love your voice and the way you explain everything..love it love it love it
@wedgeantilles8575
@wedgeantilles8575 10 месяцев назад
IMO one important feature was the Roman mindset. They just never gave up. Best shown in the Punic wars. A fleet was destroyed by a storm? Well, they build another fleet. An army was crushed by Hannibal? They raised a second one. The second army was crushed? They raised an even bigger one. The biggest army in known history until then was destroyed again at Cannae? Well, Rome adjusted - but never gave up. How many cities / empires would have been able to survive such horrendous defeats? And not a single one, but several in short order? The last one on a scale unimaginable, with a death toll and a death ratio rarely - if ever - seen before? Another tale - I am not sure if this is an anecdote that is true or if this really happened - was a siege of a city by a roman general. The city boasted that it had supplies for 10 years. The general said: I'll take the city in 11 years then. The city surrendered, because it knew that this was exactly what the romans would do. Like I said, not sure if this is true or just a tale. Possible elaborated, but the core is definitly plausible. The Romans were determined and stubborn, they just kept going until finally the enemy would crumble. They never doubted that they would be victorious in the end. No matter if you call this stupidity, courage, bravery, determination or insanity - IMO it was what made Rome (a small and insignificant town for a long time) to the most powerful and longest enduring empire in human history. And one that worked very well for most of its inhabitants. Technological advancement, material wealth, security - everything increased through Rome. So overall it was an empire that was very beneficial for those they conquered. Which is the only way an empire can exist for this long.
@ereynoldful3974
@ereynoldful3974 10 месяцев назад
Mary Beard, Joann Fletcher (Miss Frizzle of Egyptologists!) And Suzana Lipscomb are my fave female historians Mary Beard brings you right into the story she's telling you and is so passionate about what she's teaching you.
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 10 месяцев назад
Alright down boy!
@ereynoldful3974
@ereynoldful3974 10 месяцев назад
@@flashgordon6670 well I'm a woman but i admit I was a little excited .....about history 😁
@dahjeekwenglee5909
@dahjeekwenglee5909 10 месяцев назад
@@ereynoldful3974 Haha excellent
@martiwilliams4592
@martiwilliams4592 10 месяцев назад
So very, very true!!!!!!!
@flashgordon6670
@flashgordon6670 10 месяцев назад
@@ereynoldful3974 a lezza eh?
@hhunstad2011
@hhunstad2011 10 месяцев назад
The boat rams in the sea were incredible, what an amazing experience.
@AledPritchard
@AledPritchard 10 месяцев назад
The opening 3 minutes offers so much. You must include the whole series! It’s too much of a tease if you don’t.
@jyotivig3666
@jyotivig3666 7 месяцев назад
Thank you Prof. Beard for a great series.
@spikedpsycho2383
@spikedpsycho2383 10 месяцев назад
All civilizations are built on foundations with blood as mortar.
@connor3284
@connor3284 10 месяцев назад
“This is the nature of war, whose stake is at once the game and the authority and the justification. Seen so, war is the truest form of divination. It is the testing of one's will and the will of another within that larger will which because it binds them is therefore forced to select. War is the ultimate game because war is at last a forcing of the unity of existence.War is god.” -Cormac McCarthy
@johkkarkalis8860
@johkkarkalis8860 9 месяцев назад
Sadly true. The founder of Rome was allegedly the son of Mars, who killed his brother in a tiff over property rights - a portent of things to come. With all the bloodletting and the crazy rulers Rome managed to survive for centuries. Not a bad track record. The interesting and informed responses whenever the subject of Rome is discussed tells me that it remains an endlessly fascinating topic. I have or will be reading "Dynasty" by Tom Holland, "Memoirs of Hadrian" by Marguerite Yourcenar. I have on order "SPQR" by the current lecturer. That's my addiction, I guess.
@cabbage0dusk
@cabbage0dusk 10 месяцев назад
Great documentary, grateful it wasn't put behind a paywall!
@martiwilliams4592
@martiwilliams4592 10 месяцев назад
Yes! Thanks to Mary Beard and Joann Fletcher for making history so acessable to all and relevant to our present time. Much appreacated!
@murrayscott9546
@murrayscott9546 10 месяцев назад
Yet what we all know but fail to learn is . . . empires fall.
@AledPritchard
@AledPritchard 10 месяцев назад
Mary Beard is wonderful ❤
@adampowell5376
@adampowell5376 9 месяцев назад
Romulus and Remus is similar to the Cain and Abel story.
@momv2pa
@momv2pa 8 месяцев назад
Very, very interesting. Mary Beard is the best at telling these stories.
@petersonmoyane8351
@petersonmoyane8351 8 месяцев назад
Best history teller of all time
@mohammedsaysrashid3587
@mohammedsaysrashid3587 10 месяцев назад
It was an informative and thrilled historical coverage video ...thank you for sharing
@neutralino1905
@neutralino1905 10 месяцев назад
You can have an interest in Rome without admiring or excusing their wrongdoings.
@mdsaxc02
@mdsaxc02 10 месяцев назад
Yeah but most don't because they see what they want to see from history. That is how Caesar and Napoleon have rockstar status among history enthusiasmists they never account the human suffering they cause.
@connor3284
@connor3284 10 месяцев назад
Wrongdoings from what perspective? Are you even religious? Do you even have an eternal, objective basis for judging human moral behavior?
@mdsaxc02
@mdsaxc02 10 месяцев назад
@@connor3284 Rome ruled by fear say no to the Senate or emperor and the legions come and kill EVERYTHING!!! Dogs and cats livestock Man woman and child except the lucky ones who were chosen to be a slave for life. Yeah that perspective.
@isitme5669
@isitme5669 10 месяцев назад
What did Rome do wrong? I came I saw I conqueded Might is right.
@mdsaxc02
@mdsaxc02 10 месяцев назад
@@isitme5669 historians was very bias they only tell u the good never the evil which is why America a nation that fought an king is an evil empire of today. U have to talk about unpleasant side of great men too. Yes they do great things also evil things as well.
@user-uy9dv1rz6j
@user-uy9dv1rz6j 3 месяца назад
Mary, you rock! Can’t get enough of your documentaries!!!!❤
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 10 месяцев назад
List of empires not based on brutality is very, very small. Invisible if you don't count the biscuits.
@voraciousreader3341
@voraciousreader3341 10 месяцев назад
That’s not the point of this tiny slice of history….her knowledge of her subject is so vast that she can distill it endlessly for general consumption.
@sh3940
@sh3940 10 месяцев назад
This is so good!
@leonardturner6659
@leonardturner6659 10 месяцев назад
Great documentary by Mary Beard very easy to watch I loved it. Leo BC Canada
@Kudal196
@Kudal196 10 месяцев назад
Love Mary Beard.....Her Presentation Keeps My Attention...Leads To Easier Learning.
@voraciousreader3341
@voraciousreader3341 10 месяцев назад
No, it’s just the _illusion_ of learning….the only way to truly learn about anything is to _READ ABOUT IT._ Do you really think that, when Dame Mary mentions a few sentences of Caesar’s book, that it’s as good as actually reading them yourself?!? Do you have any idea how many books _she_ has read-in the original Latin and Greek-to be able to expound so easily about her subject?? Having watched this one video, are you now able to sit down with her and have a discussion about Rome’s development? “Easier learning”!! You’re really not learning anything at all! And you don’t know it!
@dustyfish
@dustyfish 10 месяцев назад
Brilliant doc! ❤❤❤
@MrSatyre1
@MrSatyre1 10 месяцев назад
Gotta love me some concrete, straight roads, aqueducts and low crime!
@Matt.4877
@Matt.4877 3 месяца назад
Really enjoyed your talk with Richard herring in Colchester - thank you for the book signing
@voraciousreader3341
@voraciousreader3341 10 месяцев назад
Why was this uploaded again?? It’s been on Timeline for years!
@biobeckerrr
@biobeckerrr 6 месяцев назад
Excellent documentary! Funny thing: every time Dr Beard says "Romans" it reminds me of The Life of Brian 🤭🥰
@efeocampo
@efeocampo 10 месяцев назад
As ALL Empires... It is impossible to build an Empire WITHOUT abusing and humiliating other Peoples...
@valor101arise
@valor101arise 10 месяцев назад
It's often impossible to have a family that doesn't humiliate and abuse one another 😅
@nnicollan
@nnicollan 10 месяцев назад
Fratricide means killing your brother/sister
@SeanHogan_frijole
@SeanHogan_frijole 10 месяцев назад
Empires are never voluntary
@Nighthawk799
@Nighthawk799 10 месяцев назад
Do you always see the negative sides in things?
@katherinecollins4685
@katherinecollins4685 9 месяцев назад
Really informative
@christopher3d475
@christopher3d475 7 месяцев назад
Brilliant series.
@johnsieverssr8288
@johnsieverssr8288 9 месяцев назад
Great show.
@arissarkides1380
@arissarkides1380 10 месяцев назад
There are incredibly beautiful videos by Schwerpunkt talking about these topics in detail. I've always had the impression that even the most "popular" scholars often talk by bending to a generalistic audience and not getting the actual deal of traditional history for how they saw it really like
@Nighthawk799
@Nighthawk799 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for giving the name of Schwerpunkt!! Amazing videos indeed on subjects also rarely treated on line!! Thank you again! I will enjoy many hours of history!!😊
@voraciousreader3341
@voraciousreader3341 10 месяцев назад
“….by bending to a generalistic [not a word, by the way] audience _and not getting the actual deal of traditional history for how they saw it really like”_ Did they also teach you to write?!?
@voraciousreader3341
@voraciousreader3341 10 месяцев назад
@@Nighthawk799 There isn’t a documentary series on earth which can take the place of books. They make you _feel_ educated, but you’re not. Unless, of course, this channel or whatever it is can simultaneously show different interpretation of events, different points of view, so that the person watching can get enough of a grasp of the subject matter to discern the weaknesses and strengths inherent in the presentations. In other words, history-or any other subject-via documentaries is the laziest “learning” there is.
@Nighthawk799
@Nighthawk799 10 месяцев назад
@@voraciousreader3341 oh! Absolutely!! No documentary can take the place of a good book! However I often ended up reading a book after watching videos or listening to a conference on the subject .
@benhoch9967
@benhoch9967 10 месяцев назад
"Brother killing brother" sounds a lot like Cain and Abel.
@ENIGMAXII2112
@ENIGMAXII2112 8 месяцев назад
Mary, Mary, Mary, Oh Dear Mary... The empire west did not stop at Spain, it went all the way to Portugal.. Please me Dear, stop leaving us out..
@jodiethierry4994
@jodiethierry4994 10 месяцев назад
Thanks!
@GermanGreetings
@GermanGreetings 10 месяцев назад
I love your style, Grand Lady !
@cojaysea
@cojaysea 8 месяцев назад
No one does Rome like Beard .
@pikiwiki
@pikiwiki 10 месяцев назад
Ooh. that was a good one
@RubyMarkLindMilly
@RubyMarkLindMilly 10 месяцев назад
Love anything to do with Rome fascinating part of history
@oldmanballer5088
@oldmanballer5088 10 месяцев назад
If I had had professors like this wonderful lady I probably would’ve graduated college. Instead of leaving because I was bored out of my mind!
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 10 месяцев назад
I would have larked about anyway.
@voraciousreader3341
@voraciousreader3341 10 месяцев назад
What, you wanted professors who took you to the places studied and to give you personal tours? Come on! You dropped out bc you couldn’t be bothered, and now blame it on your teachers! They apparently didn’t get the memo that they were supposed to _entertain_ their students, to spoon feed them bc the students simply weren’t interested. Mary Beard in her tutorials follows the same pattern, so it wouldn’t have made much difference, bc you’d still have had to master Latin and Greek. When you go to university, you’re on your own, it’s the first test of adulthood.…..you either take advantage of everything it has to offer scholastically, or you squander your precious opportunity.
@adampowell5376
@adampowell5376 9 месяцев назад
The Irish were a very clever people. They had an Empire all over the world and were clever enough to let the British think they were running it!
@bealtainecottage
@bealtainecottage 9 месяцев назад
True! The Irish diaspora is an empire of a much beloved people!
@leilakhenancha4327
@leilakhenancha4327 10 месяцев назад
Mary comes in Constantine Algeria searching one of those Roman Empire 👤 it's lovely to read
@bradrichards8122
@bradrichards8122 10 месяцев назад
Remeber folks, despite the great astetics, Odyssey is just infotainment. Closer to fiction than fact. Odyssey is to documentary as the History Channel is to history.
@Rocanala
@Rocanala 5 месяцев назад
Roman and British history are bloody and brutal. Well done!
@stephanotr
@stephanotr 6 месяцев назад
what street is that piece of wall at 14:33 ?
@justinmas299
@justinmas299 10 месяцев назад
That was cool
@HouseJawn
@HouseJawn 10 месяцев назад
How did the British set the standard for dramatic documentary hosts? 😆
@ktom5262
@ktom5262 6 месяцев назад
Oh yeah? Who does it better, then? Nobody.
@professorsogol5824
@professorsogol5824 9 месяцев назад
Does the convention of placing a blank space between words go back to the very beginning of Latin writing? The epitaph of Scipio Barbatus follows this convention. How much further into the past can this practice be traced?
@ronalddesiderio7625
@ronalddesiderio7625 10 месяцев назад
They used the roads for the armies to travel on . So they could conquer through brutality
@davidbarr9343
@davidbarr9343 10 месяцев назад
You don't conquer anything by being a wimp.
@patdowney9454
@patdowney9454 2 месяца назад
She’s just like one of the family, she’s an absolute treasure 😊
@larsfinlay7325
@larsfinlay7325 Месяц назад
Mary Beard is the Steve Irwin of ancient and classical history and archaeology.
@melissaboprie3182
@melissaboprie3182 3 месяца назад
Yeah, all the guys on the ship that found it tried that helmet on
@danidesip2432
@danidesip2432 10 месяцев назад
"Honey, one of those history buffs if filming another documentary around our home again dear" "Ugh, they will go away soon"
@penkaqncheva5599
@penkaqncheva5599 9 месяцев назад
Субтитри на български език, моля!
@monikagrosch9632
@monikagrosch9632 9 месяцев назад
Why is Caesar always maligned ? Pompey was the one that broke most of the ( unwritten ) rules
@grantrizmo2002cb
@grantrizmo2002cb 9 месяцев назад
Mary Beard is the greatest!
@aquilesboy198
@aquilesboy198 10 месяцев назад
Tio timeline por favor puedes poner subtitulos en español
@jamesberonja1539
@jamesberonja1539 8 месяцев назад
Rome worked for centuries. It was a great and succesful empire.
@rolandrabier5984
@rolandrabier5984 9 месяцев назад
I think Rome expended during the Republic, the Empire did not gain much but managed to keep the unity while limping for another 500 years.
@marquitoclash7657
@marquitoclash7657 10 месяцев назад
Rome❤Mary Beard!
@melissaboprie3182
@melissaboprie3182 3 месяца назад
Mary is the absolute best
@taylorlibby7642
@taylorlibby7642 10 месяцев назад
You say that like it's a bad thing. Seems like a pretty solid basis for a realtionship.😂🤣
@1319papi
@1319papi 9 месяцев назад
excellent but spoilt by very intrusive elevator music
@DaRyteJuan
@DaRyteJuan 3 месяца назад
24:51 _”Whoever wore this helmet must’ve had a bigger head than me. Or else there must’ve been a lot of padding in it.”_ Well, DUH. If you were wearing that helmet without the leather supports, one crack of a sword, and you’d suffer a concussion. 🗡️🧠
@Mis-AdventureCH
@Mis-AdventureCH 10 месяцев назад
So Romulus was some kind of David Koresh??
@alexstone3349
@alexstone3349 10 месяцев назад
And now we're still dealing with these romans brutality in america.
@connor3284
@connor3284 10 месяцев назад
If only we were crucifying criminals along major highways!
@_robustus_
@_robustus_ 10 месяцев назад
Cain and Abel weren’t twins but…
@stuka80
@stuka80 6 месяцев назад
LOL @ the title of the video
@janklaas6885
@janklaas6885 10 месяцев назад
📍34:30
@Fadem12forReal
@Fadem12forReal 10 месяцев назад
Mary Beard is my aunt!
@KangaKucha
@KangaKucha 10 месяцев назад
Roman Empire was build on brutality... WELL DUH!!! Heck, what Empire hasn't?
@voraciousreader3341
@voraciousreader3341 10 месяцев назад
Well! You certainly put Dame Mary Beard in her place! The point you apparently missed is the particularly _Roman_ type of brutality, which was far more successful to any other empire of that or previous ages.
@saigonmonopoly1105
@saigonmonopoly1105 10 месяцев назад
it was a highway stranger coming in the current n some made impact u write about
@horrendouscauldronofsalt7111
@horrendouscauldronofsalt7111 8 месяцев назад
an cozy d'cmntry
@stacyanmarie1
@stacyanmarie1 8 месяцев назад
God always works even bad behaviors into good deeds ... and new migrations. 2 more years in Mommyville... then I rise as myself. So inspired ... thank you!
@asabattista
@asabattista 10 месяцев назад
Just like every empire
@sarahhale-pearson533
@sarahhale-pearson533 6 дней назад
There is something so fundamentally unnatural and irrational for a father to kill his young, in order to maintain his own power and wealth, rather than to pass them on as a legacy, given that we are mortal, and our only real legacy is our descendants.
@saigonmonopoly1105
@saigonmonopoly1105 10 месяцев назад
1 st river then town city how 2 boys grow that slow? back then most never see outside the shire....aged 30-45
@clivebaxter6354
@clivebaxter6354 10 месяцев назад
Never listen to anyone who uses BCE instead of BC!
@fanroche8573
@fanroche8573 8 месяцев назад
I though the lacus curtius memorial represented roman heroism not the sabines? all confused :)
@saigonmonopoly1105
@saigonmonopoly1105 10 месяцев назад
island tree forest ueurope marsh not much in cold climate
@saigonmonopoly1105
@saigonmonopoly1105 10 месяцев назад
yes they yell out or bang drum hence chicken
10 месяцев назад
Ancient Romans, instead of dancin' they shoud have been fishing, brother Brutus, long live Brutus., Thanx aunt Mary.
@robertkees6048
@robertkees6048 6 месяцев назад
OK, sorry for this question, but was she the same person that drank with James May on Top Gear?
@ShaneVonRussell
@ShaneVonRussell 10 месяцев назад
AVE CAESAR!
@balancius8381
@balancius8381 8 месяцев назад
Why is this story of boy in the river repeating everywhere!?
@bucksolo703
@bucksolo703 Месяц назад
Marys has a lucky husband lol. I wish my wife loved to talk about Rome and Julius Ceasar and everything about ancient times. I would marry her in a second lol.
@Robdizzle2010
@Robdizzle2010 10 месяцев назад
I had to click on this video once I realized who the historian was!
@zzp1
@zzp1 3 месяца назад
I have alway great admiration for academics speaking in a normal way. The whole Rome circus is for non Latinists difficult to explore. The question is if the Rome from ancient times is so much different of the today's politics. Maybe a little bit less violent, but nontheless without any respect for anyone. So bringing us close to what possibly moved the Romans is no bad issue at all.
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff
@AnnaAnna-uc2ff 5 месяцев назад
OK
@TheCosmicGuy0111
@TheCosmicGuy0111 10 месяцев назад
Jezz
@goncalomeneses5611
@goncalomeneses5611 7 месяцев назад
I would suggest a title for a program for everyones lives: "How I came to life causing so much physical pain to my own mother". As if pain and adversity were not part of life 🤣🤣🤣...
@dlalwon1
@dlalwon1 9 месяцев назад
"Improvisation, good luck, greed, ambition" where is adaptation? She makes it sound like they were just half assing it and getting lucky for centuries, as if they weren't doing anything better.
@bobharford5643
@bobharford5643 9 месяцев назад
Why the need for combining a documentary with a loud symphony?
@saigonmonopoly1105
@saigonmonopoly1105 10 месяцев назад
come back if it dark
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