How the Sony Playstation 2 Security Was Defeated | MVG 

@Brandon Kick You just disagreed to agree with me... The wording doesn't matter.

@Brandon Kick I wouldve figured they would use the attachable HDD some of the things as well. Guess i was wrong.

Dee Luna he was correcting you lol

Despite it's expensive launch price the PS3 was a pretty good bluray player too. At the time it didn't seem great value as blurays weren't even the dominant format yet, but in retrospective they did pretty good with that. I remember a lot of AV enthusiasts actually recommending it. I still use my PS4 as my bluray player in the living room.

@@sonicwingnut I didnt think people still watched Bluray movies....

or in any country in South America lol

@@Dash120z It all sounds like a sensible way to deal with bullies.

But I have one though... That hasn't been modded... (I'm Chilean)

same in Argentina, the crazy thing is that every ps2 was sold with, even if you bought from wallmart or some place like that

I do have one, but when i took it apart i found unnamed modchip. Maybe messiah modchip? It was bought circa 2006

yes but dvd players can play the high resolution of the disc but ps2 cant

Yes I didnt know DVDs could be "read". Normally it's called played.

@@eness379 actually DVDs are only 480p anyway so it works out perfectly

@@nathanurie4686 oof

@@theenzoferrari458 normally your unit has to read the disc in order to be played.... so what is your point dude? #notsosmartafterall

I am looking for ps2 to buy, plz contact me if you have any

@@WoundedSnake I have about 10 but only a few are ready for use. I don't have them listed anywhere bc I just havnt had time. A working one has fully functional optical drive, mem slots and control ports. Comes with 1 controller, power supply, AV cables and Free mcboot mem card. I only have slims, so the network was tested too. I honestly have no idea what a good asking price is. Lol

@@rustyshackleford5166 I actually have my ps3 cracked playing both ps1 and ps2 games But for pure nostalgia reasons I want to play with ps2 console/ps2 controller As for where to list them, or how much the price is up to you, which ever is more convenient for you, may I ask where are you from? Just do a lil search for the current prices and list them with a median one, that's what I would do anyway

@@WoundedSnake I'm in America, specifically Pennsylvania. I have never sent mail in my life. Lol Are you looking to use free mcboot with network SMB? or do you need a functional unit? If it's the former I can sell you one with a functional brain for what it was sold to me for plus the mem with FMCB. Lol they already sell on eBay with broken optical drives for around $30 and FMCB is like 10. CDromance is one of the last places to get rips of games at reasonable speeds. If it's the latter, then it's gonna be pricier. I test all my units and video all of it.

@@rustyshackleford5166 I bought a Fat today for $40 🤣 had to open it up and clean the laser bc the disc would take forever to load.

Every time you comment a MVG's video it's like being in a crossover episode.

lol literally 2 days ago i used your video to soft mod my ps2

Hahaha..the skills of the swapping disc jockey...

I did this.

I heard you'll eventually break your laser by putting the extra stress on it by doing the disc swap without a proper mod. That being said I use the disc swap cuz I don't often get into my ps1

Turn table origins

Grew up with Sega Saturn model 2. That would probably be the minimum smoothness for the swap trick to work on it. Many disks were sent flying across the room mastering the art of swap.

You could just hear the whip cracks

I haven't laughed so much my stomach hurt in a long time bro you made my day!

Give me more details

I Heard of that exploit but never seen it in action tho But I have FREEMCBOOT

Lol same. In indonesia, if you turn on the ps2, it will showing a "MATRIX" sign first.

@@khairulmufid497 I know right? It's a global chip XD

@@MasterHKS Matrix everywhere

Lmao same in Brazil

Same in Brazil

😂

Still disc swapping smh only now it can only be used to mod games. Acturally. With incredibly precise timing you can acturally get it to load a different .elf executable :-:

S o n y l e a r n e d f r o m t h e m i s t a k e s o f t h e P S 1 .

I mean, he said they learned, he never said they learned the right lesson though

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FreeHDBoot here - god what an experience. Best console ever.

@@FeeLtheHertZ still got my original HDD from FFXI bundle

@Jenny Rok Yep, I used to actually perform soft mods through HDD upgrades filled with emulators, home-brew and ROMs done via an old DOS box etc. in 2010. In 2004 I was the envy of the whole block with my 250GB mod-chipped all out OG Xbox. Quite the memories.

Hell yea

most arent

Well, you dont lose much from jumping in, just dont get discouraged if it becomes a bit of a project.

Try

Software engineer here as well. Looking back in the past 8 years, the stuff that I'm most proud of was done because I wasn't thinking about the complexity of the project I wanted to start beforehand. Just one step at a time, and before you know it, you'd be surprised at the stuff you can accomplish just by sticking to what you started and going for incremental progress. Give it a try.

Think of what you know already, how you learnt it, and apply it to future things you want to understand.

I’d certainly believe it, considering how jank Swap Magic disks are.

Isn't that illegal?

Heath Mitchell Probably.

Tbh swapmagic was the best thing that ever happened to me in life.

@@circuit10 I'm not sure it is. Because the original authentication, lead-in code, and boot sectors aren't actually touched in any way. If they're just spliced onto another disc, I don't believe that constitutes tampering with the code. I guess it's kind of like an emulator in some way. They're legal because they don't use original firmware or bootloader code, they use their own. The copyrighted media you insert into that emulator hasn't changed or been tampered with in any way, kinda like how you'd run a PS2 game on a PS3. It's like the Wii running GameCube games. The GameCube game runs inside a virtual machine, and AFAIK has no API calls to hardware at all - it all passes through the hypervisor, which provides no access to Wii firmware code. I hope this helps in some way. I am definitely not a coder, or lawyer, but coding is something I want to learn, particularly reverse engineering.

The PS2 was the shit back then!

it still is

I remember my mom got me the PS2 because the games were so cheap. Later I found out the games were boot legs since they only cost $10 for 3 disks Because of a mod chip.

​@@robsison205tenchu gta 3 vice city god of war 1 and 2 to name a few made the ps2 the best console a must have

I love how it is so easy because you don't have to open up your system or know how to solder shit. That is the only real reason why my old Xbox 360 from like 2007 or so never got modded. Too much of a pain in the arse and too expensive to buy the special chip to flash the dvd drive.

The Wii bomb is actually more difficult. Now you change your DNS and go to update system. To easy

Is it really an exploit if it was intentional? Anyhow it seems like when they put it in, they thought they would be completely in control of writing things to the memory card with MagicGate protection set. My CodeBreaker 8.0 disc (and others) said otherwise back when the exploit was first announced. Also apparently their PS3 memory card reader, which with the right crypto key (apparently why the Github repo got quickly nuked), could also write arbitrary files with MagicGate set. But you know what surprised me about this video? I wanted to see what came between the 20-pin chips and FMcB, and it really was nothing. The recent DVD player exploit was far more clever.

@@kuraiwolf4047 i know right ps2 with fcmb is fuckin amazing i also sold xbox360 slim wtf lol i dont give a shit about ps5 either

Somehow, Playstation and Wii systems are easier to softmod than the Xbox 360. Sure the original Xbox is easy to softmod, but you needed the original copy of Splinter Cell, and a Xbox USB adapter, so it's must simpler to just HardMod your OG Xbox, lol.

I get the read screen at least once when I load up crash bandicoot, I don’t play it much as it takes forever to read. Don’t know if anyone else has this issue

Mission Accomplished!

@@AutizmChan2005 do you mean crash bandicoot for the ps1?

@@Isafell2001 Well, The Wrath of Cortex yes..

@@AutizmChan2005 oh, that’s ps2. but it’s a cd based game so some models of the ps2 struggle to read them after a while, do you have a fat ps2?

Same here. Hate my life...

mistakes were made 9 months before i was born

Mistakes into Miracles

I know that feeling.

*HAPPY LITTLE ACCIDENTS*

Lol. My cousin had a fuckton of backups. Hundreds of burned copies. I remember one time we were playing GOW all night. Many afternoons were spent with Battlefield 2:MC, Soul Calibur 3, SOCOM 2.

damn thats awesome

„Backups“ :D

Sean Price I’m assuming you bought your ps2, so you didn’t rob Sony, you robbed the game developers. Lol

@@abysmal not really, the PS2 (and 3 and 4) were sold much too cheap. Sony makes money by licensing to game developers. So you rob them, but who cares. :D

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That'll probably be far in the future.

@@IndellableHatesHandles yeah, probably.

Why should be "far in the future" if we already have the best people specialized in hacking and homebrews? Let's do it now!!!

@@ionutvas6514 yessir lets do it!

I just thought it was broken

Additionally, the Sony text was presented so when it stood vertically it would emulate one of the Sony headquarters buildings that has the Sony logo in the same place.

I thought it was is obvious and everyone knew it, I saw some stupid tic tock mentioned it recently.

@@disco7379 Biscuits 🍪

One of the best chips in the market, since alot of chip broke in 2 years the laser.

Exactly, matrix infinity it was unbeatable

@@milhouse777 but its was expensive, the best part is that you could lauch elf files from memory i belive

The matrix was also very popular here in morroco

@@damianqqqqify I second this, every ps2 in argentina, every single one had/has this chip. But mostly are clones (you couldn't play ps1 games, except on the original chip).

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Dang you must live in a rich family lol That's like 500$ a month for gamesn

Damn rich boi

2 games every other Saturday? lol fuckin' rich bitch

Or the PS1 Game Exploit

The 007 hack is what I used lol

@@rafaelfrequiao The Independence Exploit was cool but required Action Replay or Codebreaker. The 007 elf trick was eaiser and works with other games. I used SOCOM 2.

That same game and that same hack is also used for installing a custom dashboard on the Xbox.

Y'know that's the exact method I tried and no matter what I did it would not work. I think it had something to do with the boot disc that I burned, as that was the only variable I could see, everything else seemed to be in order. But after several attempts and not being able to find any exact answers on the forums, I gave up.

@oH well,lord! Actually Italia was right, that's what's Italy is called in italian.

I think some time later, the USA courts ruled something similar. The hardware belongs to the purchaser. Any software, however, they only have a license to use.

Gang gang im happy im not alone

You can jailbreak your ps3 to play all ps1/2 games too

@@RealShadowfiend180x how?

@@britf1859 Hack ps3 its easy

@@alucard-zh7nd But how do i do that? I have a ps3 old fat one that have a disc line that games go into.

Haha, land of Odebrecht. Fight the power 🤘

I believe the law requiring things to not be locked meant they found the easiest way was t put a chip... lol

Same here in India

What do yoy mean uncklock?

​@@xamergt Unlocked for backup game disks btw, few years ago I did bought one with the Matrix modchip from a retail.

Oof. At least you don't need to do that again (or even anymore, provided you have a DVD Writer/Burner)

Which later was also known as HD extreme and USB eXtreme! Id say those fit under his bit about Datel disc's having a copied lead in disc track. Those predated the free mcboot existing as stamped boot disc's you did not swap but allowed HDD booting way back in 2004/2005.

And HD Loader doesn't even need a Free MCBoot memory card

Still got my HD Loader and disc swap tool. :)

HDLoader had competitor, HD Advance, which allowed larger hard drive and ps1 backups. Have then both and still use them on my fat ps2's. Only thing is you need the ethernet adapter to connect the hdd. HD extreme was more finicky with ps2 slim using usb and imho, didn't work as well

Not really noteworthy.

Datel aka Thin Ice Media has their own cd pressing plant so with that you already have the physical capability of pressing on the whole disk surface including the wobble area. Oh how awesome it would be if they would accept jobs for small runs of indie games

@@ruhl_funtime5933 I think Datel are on thin enough ice (and they apparently know it!) with getting sued as it is. Their products all enable piracy as a more-or-less main function. Used to be in the past that the crime of piracy was committed by the user every time they did it, now laws have changed and being involved in the supply of piracy tools is also generally illegal. Like with Nintendo 3DS SD-card pirate carts being banned in some places. Circumventing eg Sony's security to allow unlicensed indies to publish would be asking for more trouble, for little reward, they just don't need that. Besides which you can just burn an indie game yourself and run it with your Datel Pirate-O-Matic.

Datel has the defense that there products are intended for allowing you to cheat in games not for piracy xD Also pressing indie games would be like one of the legal uses for such a thing since you own the fucking rights to the software on there.

I recognize a certain Nitrax owo

These Japanese units are much tougher made than the later American and European units. These JP units are much, much heavier and don't have a Expansion bay, but a PC Card Slot.

This is the method I used until Free McBoot

How?

@@RobertusWE SMB or samba. you can store games on a computer in the local network and play them that way Some games have English patches, you take the patch data and a rip of a game and use a tool to smash them together.

SSD is a bit too much i think, ide isnt that fast to handle its potential

I'm thinking about a ssd in mine just for silence and reliability not keen on the sound of hdds

I would take hdd because most current gen hdd's are silent too

Yup, the network adaptor was the best investment. Having all of my games (especially the legit copies) on my hard drive was great. No more disc swapping, no more fucking Sony dead lens problems.

My PS2 already had a bigger and faster hard drive than my Xbox 360 XD

You were using what was called the "Slide Tool". It was used for running the Swap Magic software (as well as the Breaker Pro) on the earlier, fatter PS2 models. I used the same method.

Yeah, this was what you had to do to swap discs on the fat consoles. You had to take the front face of the drive off, and cut an old credit card into a specific shape that would hook onto the drive's internal locking components. Using this, while the console was on and reading a disc, you could "slide" the tool in the console's tray, pull the entire mechanism to the left unlocking the tray and separating the disc from the laser assembly, and then pull the tool out to force the tray to come out without the console doing anything - At which point you could swap in a different disc without the console knowing. The tool lets you slide all the components back into place aswell, so regular operation can begin again with the swapped disc without interacting with the console. This is how I managed to install FreeMcBoot on my memory card from scratch, with a copy of 007 Agent Under Fire, and a modified backup of the same game that replaced the driving level with an ELF launcher, letting me run the FMCB installer software off a USB thumbdrive.

I'm surprised this method isn't covered in this video. The steps were something like this Play a PS One game Create a Save Game Save the ID of the game on a ISO that would patch the save file Cog swap the PS One game with the ISO and patch the save file, saving some .elf in the memory card The .elf loaded a homebrew version of swap magic and when booting the PSOne game Remove PS ONE Disc with cog swap Insert PS2 Disc and read its TOC Remove PS2 Disc with cog swap Insert Backup PS2 game Once the memory card had the .elf you only did the swapping, saving lots of money on modding (and games) lol

Hell yeah! ps2 for life!

I was living in Tokyo at the time, FYI.

Get them for the og Xbox if you can would be much advice, PS2 controller and tiger Woods games do go together to well.

oh, hello larry.

Yeah I remember this issue lol, I found out how to get around it on a PS2 slim a while back It loads the TOC from the main disc, counting the audio tracks

Ah yes, the good old Independence Exploit :). I used it on my system up until recently, before switching to FreeHDBoot. I believe I kept all of my exploit-related files, for nostalgia purposes, hehe.

Bully is one of that benefits from improved access of SMB too. It has a horrendous initial loading originally and on SMB it is near instant to start

Did you have the slim PS2 case mod, or did you use the slide tool? I used both. Played a lot of Melty Blood and Beatmania. 😁

Still the best way in 2023 haha

i don't think that booting ps2 games from hdd was already possible in 2004/2005, i believe the programs like hdloader and opl came few years later.

@@PrzeszczepiX I got a burned copy of HDD loader and HDD advance to boot. My console was modchipped , but i liked the option to play games from HDD. (for the time it was mind blowing) And don't get me started on HDD compability :D

Yeah they're really good ^_^